Backslider:

The appearance of "mary" is a demon this is an aspect of The Worship of Ashteorth

Blackslider,I rebuke you in Jesus name!, hope you are not refering to BLESSED VIRGIN MARY,may be it's mary your girl friend who refused to marry you.My dear Catholic brothers and sisters don't take him serious; after all, he is a backslider. He will repent and then apologise.

@smile4ken
If you will take such a decision because of a statement (though annoying), what would you say about Jesus who was persecuted and killed for no wrong of his.Stay, share your views,get other peoples views and pray for him to repent and be forgiven please!

Cgift
thank you so much,i will give him more proofs of dancing in the bible,but i think we should first try to convince him to stop being a bacsklider before he will understand that God appreciate dancing to the Glory of his(God)name.

I will say my candid opinion on this matter if the person that opened this thread will tell us the title of the message that those pastors,Bishops he saw wearing two rings were preaching the day he saw them. Instead of you to sit down relax and catch a word that will better your spritual life,you were tricked at looking at the appearance of the preacher.Mind you, "what you see in the word of God is what you get" and You can' achieve what you don't believe.
Their purpose on air was not to show you ring or wealth,
but to get a word across to you.
DID YOU GET ANY WORD?
no!
why?
because he was putting on two rings!
Hmmm! i see ignorance in action here. May help God us.

tpia:

there are different kinds of dance.

Dancing can be for fun, pleasure or exercise as well.

Wrong answer!

Dance is the movement of the body to a particular rythm

Backslider:

If we were grafted of somewhere! That is why we are called a Royal priesthood.

Leviticus 16
spells out in pretty comprehensive detail what the High Priest was to do in the Holy Of holies, there is no mention of dancing being part of the ritual.

There is no evidence that there was dancing in the Holy of Holies. On the whole it is unlikely that there was, because the High Priest entered only once a year, on Yom Kippur, to perform the ritual laid down in Lev 16, which makes no mention of dancing. Furthermore, the High Priest went in alone; therefore, no musicians. But dancing isn’t really the best mode of expressing atonement, anyway, and Yom Kippur is about atonement

Finally, it’s worth remembering out that Jewish synagogue worship to this day features regular chanting and swaying, sometimes involving a trance-like state. This is particularly true of Orthodox Judaism. A faithful Jew, even when discussing the faith, will often begin to sway back and forth, out of habit. You have probably seen something like this in television footage of people praying at the Western Wall in Jerusalem, but I have seen a much more “full-body” version in synagogue services. I have no idea whether this goes all the way back to Temple Judaism, or even precedes it, but I certainly see no reason to assume that it doesn’t.

The spirit of God was upon David that he danced! danced!! danced!!! till his sket almost fell-off. O!o! i just looked at your name, "Backslider", let me not go further you will not understand till you stop backsliding.
Look at you still talking about holy of holies when we are now living under grace through Jesus Christ.

@pilgrim.1
Bravo! Bravo!
nice one,
iam impressed,
but would they listen?
well sha, the truth is bitter
but continue!
God is with you.

Oby1:

@bigfred (catholics should stop bowing to pictures,images i don't know where they got from
that catholics should pray for themselves and leave mary alone, Jesus to take their prayers to God.)

Images help us to remember some past events and also help to know some great men and women of God and the society. Some instances in the Holy scripture where God the father and our Lord Jesus Christ manifested their power by the use of images: In Gen1:26-27 God himself introduced the making of images when he made man in his own Image and likeness. Gen6:13-22, God instructed Noah to make the Ark the image of copper which restored life on earth. Gen.28:18-22, Jacob used the image of stone to demonstrate his worship and dedication to God. Exodus 13:21-22, God led and protected his people Israel from their enemies through d image of pillar of fire by night and pillar of cloud by day. In Num.15:37-41, God commanded d Israelites to make the image of Tassels which will remind them of all His commandments. In Chro 13:13-14, God blessed Obed and Edom 4 receiving d image of the Ark of d old covenant into their house (example is the enthronement u see in Catholic homes). Joshua 4:1-7, Joshua & his people kept some stone images as requested by God, to remind them and their descendants how God stopped the river Jordan from flowing when d Lord's covenant box was taken across it. So many others.

Bigfred understand that not all bowing is worship as obtains in some countries & tradition. In Daniel 8:17 when d Angel Gabriel visited Daniel he fell to d ground, was that an act of worship? Even our accusers kneel before their bible or their general overseers pictures while praying. Instead of printing Christ's picture on their clothes they print those of their general overseers who is not even sure of going 2 heaven, and they are not accused of worshipping images.

Wisdom 16:5-11 gives more answer "who turned towards it was saved not by what he saw but by thee O! Lord d Saviour of d world". When we bow to an image we see and reason beyond d image just like d Israelites who were bitten by d venomous serpent were saved by looking beyond d bronze serpent that Mosed made.

So where did God instruct the catholics to make His image,Jesus image and mary's image. In all the examples you gave,God gave the instruction for a purpose at that moment.Oby1 iam waiting; if you can show me where God told you to make his image,for bowing as a mark of remembrance or whatever, then i will be convinced. God is a spirit,How can you make the image of a spirit you can't see?.God made you in HIS OWN IMAGE,(thank God you know that)why must you make any thing and say it is the image of God when you already know that you are his own image. If you are looking for an image that looks like God, then look at yourself, YOU ARE HIS GOD'S IMAGE. YOU ARE GOD'S IMAGE. YOU ARE GOD'S IMAGE. I hope it has entered your mental hurieism.

Seun:

The catholic church wasn't in existence at that time, so Mary was not a Reverend sister.

Good,then Catholic was not in existence then,the catholic should do virgin mary a favour by stop calling her the mother of God.

pilgrim.1:

Haa! Here again?!?

my sister, just trying to educate and enlighten some of my brothers and sisters that are still in darkness(catholics). wetin man go do?

ebos:

ebos is not telling them to apologies for stating just their beliefs. However, I said they must apologies for condemning the truth they don’t understand. So many things they have failed to believe.

How could someone say that Mary is not the Mother of God the Son made man? If Elizabeth could address her as Mother of my Lord (God), who again can fault it? It was Elizabeth that said “how could the mother of my Lord (God) visit me, as soon as I heard your greeting, the child in my womb leaped for joy”? This was when Angel Gabriel told Mary that Elizabeth was pregnant, and she should go and visit her. Luke 1.

Ebos, i can see you want to remain the dark,Kellorah is telling you that Mary was privilegdedto be the earthly mother of Jesus christ, does qualify her to be the mother of God.Brother think now! HABA!!!!!!!!!
@Kellorah
we were instructed in the bible not make images of anything, whatsoever, in heaven or on earth and bow before it, thank God you don't know what he(Jesus) looks like,so where did those images come from? It amazing how you compare culture, (which is physical) with religion (which is spiritual) even at that, the yorubas bow to human beings as a matter of culture not images. THOSE WHO WORSHIP GOD MUST WORSHIP HIM IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH! not bowing to what you created that you don't even know the source. I wish you will think about this and pray to God (Through Jesus) to open you understanding.

@ebos
lol! apologise my foot, what for?:
that you should obey God's comandment by praying to him(God) through Jesus not mary
that you should understand that Mary is NOT and can NEVER,EVER be the mother of God
that catholics should stop bowing to pictures,images i don't know where they got from
that catholics should pray for themselves and leave mary alone, Jesus to take their prayers to God.

You mentioned rosary infact that is one of the similarities between muslims and catholics, no be only rosary na rosaline

i sign out sha till tomorrow.

please can you help me out here,was she virgin mary a sister?

ebos:

Did you get me? Mary is the Mother of God the Son made man. Again, let us make man in our own Image - John Chapter 1 answered your question. Once you get the fact, you will accept Mary as the Mother of God.

Okay let me ask the question the way you i think you will understand,When God asked "whom shall i send?"who answered Jesus christ, son of God abi? good!, my question now is where was Mary then?. Now because God sent Jesus to this world through a virgin called "Mary" does that qualify Mary to be the mother of God? no i don't think so,because Jesus christ (son made man) was there when ebos,me,I-man,pilgrim and Mary was created don't you thin so.
Now worry is that if you say you are Mary "mother of God" because of the fact she was used by God, then her husband Joseph should also be called the father of God, why the discrimination?Joseph tried also,if he had disvirgined her nko?

ebos:

Bigfred could say this because he was in the spirit. Gradually you will join Pilgrim to say sorry to Catholics. I know she will not like to say sorry again but I believe, the Pilgrim I have known will not hesitate sorry when the occasion call for it. Though, by now Catholics should have received over 20 sorry from her. The condition of being here is that you have accepted Catholic as the true Church. So, we thank God that Pilgrim has finally come to us. The Angels in heaven rejoicing.

Say sorry 4 what? iam trying to take out of darkness to light you there waiting for who will tell you sorry.It has not that extend, there is still room for you to change God is mercifull and Kind.But i will only can only sympathize with if you remain in darkness. I know this is you trick to dorge my question.You honour Mary,and forget about Joseph her husband WHY?

ebos:

If we deny that Mary is not the Mother of God the Son made man. Then, we need to ask for forgiveness. Read John Chapter 1. Pilgrim, Bigfred, you are crossing boundary. You all need to ask for forgiveness. This is serious. it is not a sin against ebos but agains,

eeeeeewwwooooo che! che! che! na wa oooooooo! Come ebos,when God said "lets make man in our own image and likeness", which people was he talking to?.

Which boundary? God have mercy on you.

debosky:

which bible did you write?

or were Isaiah, Moses, Daniel, David, Mark, James, Paul, John and the others all Catholics too?

stop getting ahead of yourselves mate, a council met and decided on what should be the right books to be in the bible, based on what had been taught in the early church up till that time. There is very little similarity between all that went on then and some people creating prayers for Mary to 'pray for them'.

even if Peter died in Rome, Jesus died in Jerusalem, why don't Christians regard Jerusalem as where the center/head of the Church should be? But NO, instead we should regard where one, just one of the Apostles died to be the center of the church? Puleeze

Peter was sent primarily as an apostle to the Jewish nation, while Paul was an apostle for the gentiles, considering that there are far more gentiles in the church today than Jews, then technically, Paul and whoever 'took over' after him (presumably Timothy) should be the POPE

Holy people in heaven indeed, Jesus taught us to pray to our Father in heaven and ask for things in His name, not through Mary or anyone.

debosky
how i wish they understand, but they will block their hearts oH! God pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaase deliver the catholics from ignorance in Jesus name (Amen)

Twayin:

@ locoman

Don't y'all pentecostals go to pastors and deacons saying "pastor pray for me", if you go to them on earth here telling them to lay hands on you and pray believing that God will answer their prayers on your behalf, how much more the mother of God and all those holy people in heaven?

Just listen to yourself,Who is mother of which God? Jehova God?, the IAM that IAM?, who?, Mary?; If yes is your answer then iam sorry.  Any way, i pray that God will forgive you for calling Mary, whom he(GOD) created, his mother, In Jesus name AMEN

sonia11:

you non catholics should better not piss me off by saying things u don't know. nobody bows down to the saints and we honour mary not worshipping. catholic church is the only church that was founded by christ while others were founded by human beings like yourselves. don't say things u don't know my dears. if you don't know anything about the catholics you ask please?

please we read the bible

You honour Mary,what about Joseph? don't you think he deserves to be honoured also?
If you say you don't bow then you are not yet a catholic.

ebos:

Bigfred,
You are getting everything wrong. Handkerchief was a true story. However, the picture never matter hence we don’t worship them. Do you want to tell me all those Jesus films you watch everyday especially His crucifixion were all acted by Catholics? Why the impersonation? Does that mean they are Jesus?

Locoman,
The bibles Catholic destroyed were written by Wyclif and Tydane because they were faulty. The bible was in a scroll (wood) but Stephen Langston who was the catholic Archbishop of Canterbury first wrote them in a printed form, and it has been there for over 600 years before these unscrupulous guys came up with their faulty bibles. Even today, if you go to Vatican you will see the scroll that contain the word of God.

If no other thing Pilgrim will agree, at least she will agree with this one. No doubt.

Ebos, iam not against the handkerchief story, are you telling me that these pictures(images)were gotten from there? if not WHERE i want to know.

ebos:

I-man, take these 2 towels. One is for reserve incase one is saturated. Pilgrim, my bible tells me that charity covers a multitude of sin. However, this discussion would have been so exciting if we could know our various denominations. This will help us point out our mistakes, then corrections effected. How do you see this idea?

Bigfred,

Do you know that Jesus face appeared on Veronica’s handkerchief as an impression to show His approval when she (Veronica) wiped Jesus face as it was covered with blood and moisture? That is Jesus journey to Calvary. This type of story was passed from the Apostles to their Successors.

ebos
please don't make me laugh! how can an impression from a  handkerchief that was used to WIPE a blood stained face transform to the face the catholics call Jesus.The clean shaven bears, the well combed hair, hands legs etc were all gotten from this handkie.
Ebos my good friend, i praise your efforts in defending the catholic faith even some Rev.fathers will not go to this extent. But if at any time you don't have answer to any question please let us know instead of this kind of answers; However, iam still waiting for answer to these questios below b4 i make any further contribution.

bigfred:

@ebos
you talked about Jesus and his pictures. Let me ask, when was those pictures snapped?,which camera did they use? and who snapped him those pictures?. I ask this question because the face i see on those of your so called '' pictures of  Jesus" looks like the man who acted Jesus in the film "Jesus of Nazareth". Let me ask you again, if for instance, you bow in front of those pictures(images) and suddenly Jesus enters through the door what will you do at that moment?
until this questions are answered, well i reserve my comments.

Glory to Jesus! Honour to mary! what about (Joseph Mary's husband) don't he deserve any honour,praise etc.

@ebos
you talked about Jesus and his pictures. Let me ask, when was those pictures snapped?,which camera did they use? and who snapped him those pictures?. I ask this question because the face i see on those of your so called '' pictures of  Jesus" looks like the man who acted Jesus in the film "Jesus of Nazareth". Let me ask you again, if for instance, you bow in front of those pictures(images) and suddenly Jesus enters through the door what will you do at that moment?
until this questions are answered, well i reserve my comments.

jayon:

On sunday when i went to church for service the next thing the drummer just start drumming,and keyboardist start playing Yahoozey, tune,the next thing i saw was my pastor dancing yahoozey even the wife, is this worldly or just normal life

What is dance? answer this question then you get the answer.

ebos:

@Bigfred
We have only one Catholic. Charismatic is a society in Catholic Church while Watchman Charismatic is not known as Catholic. Protestants Churches quarrel among themselves because they differ in so many things. So, telling me you are a Protestant is not a enough. Nobody has said we are two bodies rather we slightly differ with our teachings. I can now see why our people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, yet they believe they have knowledge.

Again, I want to know the name of Pilgrim’s Church.

I-man, I guess she might not be proud of her church but I don’t know if I guessed it right.

Iam not interested in any arguement about church, i contributed when you were so much interested in knowing the name of his church. You said we slightly differ in teaching WHY? are we not using the same bible? what can we do to remove this diffrence? most (if not all) churches has its origin from catholic, what is catholic doing wrong that made others leave them? These are the area iam interested in not the name of church hope iam cleared?

ebos:

Pilgrim, you have come again. I know you are a Protestant but e no dey enough for me at all. Mention the name of your Church. Wetin come dey difficult there? Abi, your church be one of these……? Pilgrim, just tell me the name of your Church. How can I be debating a thread with you and cannot know your denomination? Haba! Are you not proud of your Church? To know your Church matters to me. So, tell me.

@ebos
He has told you that he is a protestant what other name do you want? you are a catholic we don't know whether charismatic or not. in christainity we have penticostal,protestant,catholic,methodist,anglican,etc. so what other denomination do you want. All this mentality of being proud of ones church is really, i don't know. For God's sake we are one body in christ. Okay! i remember!! God said "MY PEOPLE PERISH FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE''

The sunday service was wonderful,the message was titled "WINNING THE WAR AGAINST SIN'' i learned that i need the help of the holy spirit (my convenant purifier) to overcome satan and his bag of tricks. Also, that i need to put on the whole armour of God i.e truth, righteousness and faith to win the war over sin,Ephesians 6:10-19

my prayer  to every nairaland member who wrote the test is that they will make it in Jesus name. (Amen)
Iam waiting for your testimony.

for those of you who wrote the first bank test, how was it? tough? or easy?

Dr.Balogun, thank you so much for efforts here. There have been a kind of blockage in my nose,a times it moves from one nostril to the other affecting my breath,and this has been going on for about nine years now. I have seen many doctors concerning, but to no avail. please i need your help.

first bank apptitude test hold on Thursday 23rd of August 2007. Check their website (if you applied) to confirm if you are shortlisted.Goodluck.

mamus 2010:

you can also check the post on 1st bank by damkollins, he gave the link.

@ bigfred,

don't worry, it may be in batches, and if not you can be rest assured that something bigger than the elephant is waiting for you in front.

@mamus
Thank you so much for your word of assurance it just wiped away the tears from my eyes. Remain blessed

Goodluck to those shortlisted though i was not shorthlisted but in God i trust.

lancaster:

do i check the first bank website to ascertain whether i was shortlisted or my mail [b][/b]

Check the bank website and type your confirmation I.D that was given to you the day you applied.
Goodluck.

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