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Islam for Muslims / Re: For Muslims: Contradictions In The Quran by bigmanahmad: 11:57am On Dec 14, 2012 |
“’Qad khalat’: means separation from their communities, either though death or ascension to the heavens. And what is meant by “they parted with them” (khalaw minhum) is that they were there sometimes in the past time (fi b'adh al-zaman al-madhi).” (Nazam al-Dorar fi Tanasib al-Ayat wal Saur vol.5 p.82 Da’ira al-Ma’rif al-Uthmania, Hyderabad, 1973) Now the point to note here that (khalaw bil-mawt) is clear evidence that (khalaw) itself does not mean death. If it is taken so (khalaw bil-mawt) would mean "died through death." The fact simply remains that "khalaw" means "to part with/to depart" and this can be any way, death or ascension to the heavens as we consider the case of the Prophets- may Allah bless them all. Wama muhammadun illarasoolun qad khalat min qablihi arrusulu afa-in mataaw qutila inqalabtum AAala aAAqabikum wamanyanqalib AAala AAaqibayhi falan yadurra Allahashay-an wasayajzee Allahu ashshakireen Paris-Love: |
Islam for Muslims / Re: For Muslims: Contradictions In The Quran by bigmanahmad: 11:46am On Dec 14, 2012 |
UNDERSTANDING ARABIC IS VERY IMPORTANT...THANKS FOR NOTHING THIS...I WILL GIVE YOU THE ANSWER IN SHA'A ALLAH SHORTLY.. Lets suppose for a while that "qad khalat" has no other meaning than death (only suppose don't get carried away ), even then the case that JESUS PBUH passed away remains invalid. Consider the following verse: And (remember) when Allah took the Covenant of THE PROPHETS saying: "Take whatever I gave you from the Book and Hikmah (understanding of the Laws of Allah, etc.), and afterwards there will come to you a Messenger (Muhammad SAW) confirming what is with you; you must, then, believe in him and help him." Allah said: "Do you agree (to it) and will you take up My Covenant (which I conclude with you)?" They said: "We agree." He said: "Then bear witness; and I am with you among the witnesses (for this)." Wa-ith akhatha Allahumeethaqa alnabiyyeena Before Nabiyyeen (Prophets), we find "Al" and if we use the logic of the death theorists, "Al" here refers to ALL Prophets including our beloved Prophet Muhammad saw. So that would mean that Allah took covenant from Prophet Muhammad that when he would come, he would believe in himself. This does not make sense and here "All Prophets" excludes Prophet Muhammad saw. Also take the example of Iblis. The Angels were told to bow down to Syyedna Aadam عليه سلام and Iblis didn't bow down. We know that Iblis is a Jinn (18:50). Now building upon the twisted logic of the death theorists, Iblis could argue that Angels were ordered and he wasn't and so he is spared. Zakir Naik explains this as follows: [[[ The English translation of the first part of the verse - We said to the angels bow down to Adam: they bowed down except Iblis, gives us the impression that Iblis was an angel. Similarly in the Qur'an, when Allah addressed the angels, even Iblis was present, but it is not required that he be mentioned separately. Therefore according to that sentence Iblis may be an angel or may not be an angel, but we come to know from Surah Al Kahf chapter 18 verse 50 that Iblis was a Jinn. No where does the Qur'an say Iblis was an angel. Therefore there is no contradiction in the Qur'an. ]]] So if Iblis is a part of "All Angels" while being a Jinn, then Syyedna Issa عليه سلام can be a part of all those "passed away" (still assuming) without actually passing away. Indeed, Allah knows best. Paris-Love: |
Religion / Re: Oyedepo: The Church Last Paid Me In 1987 by bigmanahmad: 11:02pm On Dec 08, 2012 |
eldoradoxx:FROM THIS,WE CAN GATHER THAT HE WAS NOT RICH B4 HE STARTED THE CHURCH, HENCE HIS NEED FOR THE CHURCH SALARY B4 1987 HE MAY NOT HAVE GOTTEN RICH FROM THE TITHES BUT TO SAY THAT THE CHURCH DID NOT PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN HIS WEALTH IS A LIE!! HE STARTED A CHURCH HE HAD A LOT OF MEMBERS HE GAINED THEIR TRUST HE STOP COLLECTING SALARY AMONG HIS MEMBERS ARE RICH AND POOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO DO ANYTHING FOR HIM..INCLUDING GIVING HIM MONEY AND/OR VALUABLE GOODS... HE WROTE BOOKS...TO SELL BOOKS,U NEED A AUDIENCE..(HIS CHURCH GAVE THAT TO HIM).... SIMPLY PUT...HIS ESTABLISHMENT (THE CHURCH) LAID THE FOUNDATION FOR HIS WEALTH... EVEN IF HE STOP DOING BUSINESS TODAY,HE WILL STILL BE RICH SO AS LONG AS HE STILL HAS THE CHURCH AND THEIR MEMBERS.. 1 Like |
Islam for Muslims / Re: For Muslims: Contradictions In The Quran by bigmanahmad: 7:48pm On Dec 02, 2012 |
THESE VERSES WERE NOT CHECKING FOR WHO THE FIRST MUSLIMS WERE, BUT CONFIRMING THAT THEY WERE MUSLIMS DURING THEIR TIME... LOOK AT THOSE VERSES AGAIN, WHY DID IT SAY FIRST THAT ABRAHAM PBUH WAS NEITHER A XTIAN NOR A JEW? Abraham, Jesus pbut lived in different times from Muhammad pbuh.. During Abraham pbuh time, he was among the muslims.(he was not one of the polytheist but a muslim) During the time of Jesus pbuh, weren't the disciples the people who were first to help him in his mission?...during their time, they were muslims.. Muhammad pbuh was also the first muslim during his time.. THEY ALL LIVED AT DIFFERENT TIMES AND THEY WERE ALL BELIEVERS DURING THEIR TIME... THE QURAN IS NOT LIKE THE BIBLE...WE DO NOT SAY THAT THE BIBLE IS NOT A WORD OF GOD BUT THROUGH TIME, IT HAS BEEN CORRUPTED AND REVISED FOR REASONS ONLY GOD KNOWS.. WHO CARRIED THE CROSS OF JESUS? SIMON OR JESUS HIMSELF WHAT WAS THE LAST WORD OF JESUS?? AND MANY MORE THAT CAN NEVER BE EXPLAINED BECAUSE IT NEVER HAPPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE honeychild: 2 Likes |
Islam for Muslims / Re: For Muslims: Contradictions In The Quran by bigmanahmad: 9:47pm On Dec 01, 2012 |
Sahih International Muhammad is not but a messenger. [Other] messengers have passed on before him. Muhsin Khan Muhammad (SAW) is no more than a Messenger, and indeed (many) Messengers have passed away before him. Pickthall Muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Yusuf Ali Muhammad is no more than a messenger: MANY[b][/b] Were the messenger that passed away before him. IN SHORT, IT DID NOT SAY ''ALL'' IT IS AN ADDITION IN WHICH MANY TRANSLATORS USE ''MANY''... IF YOU TRANSLATE DIRECTLY FROM ARABIC, IT WILL BE ''MESSENGERS HAVE PASSED AWAY BEFORE HIM'' Paris-Love: |
Islam for Muslims / Re: What is the Islamic View on Court Weddings? by bigmanahmad: 5:55pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
IN SHORT, YOU ARE A ''QURAN ONLY MUSLIM'' ...HOW DO YOU PRAY IF I MAY ASK. And We have sent down to you (MUHAMMAD) the Message, that you may explain clearly to the people what is sent for them", DID YOU MEET THE PROPHET s.a.w? IF YOU DID, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE A NEED FOR ''HADITH AND SUNNAH'' BUT SINCE YOU DID NOT....YOU HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO LEARN OF THE SAYINGS AND DEEDS OF THE PROPHET.. Anvaller: |
Islam for Muslims / Re: What is the Islamic View on Court Weddings? by bigmanahmad: 5:51pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
Bismillah IN ADDITION TO WHAT ''TBABA'' POSTED PREVIOUSLY In other to answer this question, we must know the meaning of the following; WALI; MARRIAGE CONTRACT (nikah); SHARIAH court. For a marriage to be valid, there has to be a WALI (guardian i.e. male member of the family...NOT FEMALE..starting from the father) NIKKAH IS THE MARRIAGE CONTRACT...A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE HUSBAND AND WIFE...(you do not need a civil court to prevent your husband from marrying more than one if he agrees....you just have to indicate it in your contract) “O you who believe! When you contract a debt for a fixed period, write it down” “And get two witnesses out of your own men.” “But take witnesses whenever you make a commercial contract” [al-Baqarah 2:282] There are several interests to be served by documenting marriage, such as the following: 1 – Preserving the wife’s rights, such as proof of the delayed portion of the mahr, recording the conditions stipulated by her, and allowing her to take her share of inheritance from her husband and children. 2 – Proof of her children’s parentage from her and their father. 3 – Prevention of another marriage contract being done for her when she is married to another husband. 4 – Preserving the husband’s rights, as the mahr that the wife received is recorded. 5 – Preventing the husband from marrying more than four women. IN NIGERIA,THERE ARE RECOGNIZED SHARIAH COURT THAT CAN OVERSEE YOUR NIKKAH ACCORDING TO SHARIAH... |
Religion / Re: Noah's Ark Remnants Found In Turkey - Fox News by bigmanahmad: 11:19pm On Nov 25, 2012 |
2 YEAR OLD STORY...NO WONDER IT NEVER CIRCULATED....ITS OLD!!! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1269165/Noahs-Ark-remains-discovered-mountain-Turkey.html http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/04/100428-noahs-ark-found-in-turkey-science-religion-culture/ http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/27/noahs-ark-found-turkey-ararat/ 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Saudi Amputates Nigerian’s Hand For Theft by bigmanahmad: 9:24am On Nov 22, 2012 |
dr stone: I'd rather live with the so called ''barbaric law''(as some apologetic xtians call it) so as long as it guarantee my safety than live in a xtian setting no law exist at all just because there would be no body to exercise the law since only the non sinner ''must cast the first stone'' and ''every body is a sinner'' Thank God for the western xtians who made compromises to establish a law...since i have heard that in xtianity, the only punnishment is eternal damnation...(something like that) |
Politics / Re: Saudi Amputates Nigerian’s Hand For Theft by bigmanahmad: 8:54am On Nov 22, 2012 |
I DONT KNOW WHY PEOPLE FEEL PITY FOR A THIEF(it shows how corrupted we are as a society)..EVERY LAW THAT AS EVER BEEN CREATED SERVES AS A DETERRENT!THAT IS WHY NOT EVERY NIGERIA IS PUSHING DRUGS COS HE DOES NOT WANT TO WASTE 20 YRS OF HIS LIFE...IT IS NOT STRANGE TO FIND BIG PENALTIES FOR BIG CRIMES SO THAT PEOPLE WILL BE AFRAID TO EVEN THINK OF IT LET ALONE COMMITTING THE CRIME... IF WE WERE TO FOLLOW THIS SAYING OF JESUS LITERALLY ''LET HIM WITHOUT A SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE'' THEN THERE WOULD BE NO LAW AND HENCE NO POLICE OFFICERS BECAUSE, AFTER ALL, EVERY BODY IS A SINNER! (murderers and thief will walk free..the world will not no more be safe for the believers)... SAUDI ARABIA DOES NOT FOLLOW STRICT SHARIAH (i wish they do)...I AM YET TO FIND ANY MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRY THAT FOLLOW STRICT SHARIAH LAW (sadly so). THEY ONLY FOLLOW THE PART THAT SUITS THEIR AGENDA OF THE LAW.. IN ISLAM, STEALING IS A MAJOR SIN HENCE THE BIG DETERRENT.. |
Health / Re: How Can One Determine The Sex Of Their Unborn Baby? by bigmanahmad: 4:47pm On Nov 07, 2012 |
A lot of misinformation!!! where are the Doctors? you can not say a sperm cell contain both X and Y chromosome and a egg cell contain both XX.... a sperm drop contain millions of X and Y chrom...a sperm cell can either be X or Y and not both!!...an egg cell is only X chromosome!! that is why a sperm cell determine the sex of a child.... There is no proven method using genetics to determine the sex of a child...BEFORE CONCEPTION... all the stories about one cell been stronger than the other and one faster than the other are just cock and bull story provided over 40 years ago...new science research suggest a diff scenario!!! http://genderdreaming.com/forum/science-behind-gender-swaying/1562-what-real-differences-between-x-sperm-y-sperm.html FLUID SELECTION IS POSSIBLE BUT NOT AVAILABLE TO EVERY BODY AS IT ALLOWS GENDER SELECTION THERE BY PREFERRING ONE GENDER TO THE OTHER!!! |
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