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RedboneSmith:
Sigh.

If you had translated 'Ime Obi' for me, it would have aided this discussion. The 'obi' in 'Ime Obi' is not a person, is not 'a king'; it is a geographical location, and that is a very relevant point to note in all this. But I will come back to that.

Now to Ovbie. As far as I can ascertain, there is no word like that in Bini. The word is Ovbi, and it has nothing to do with kingship. It means child; no connotations of royalty whatsoever.

Ovie is not a corruption of this Ovbie (which is not even a true word to begin with; like I said the word is Ovbi.) Rather Ovie in Urhobo/Isoko is cognate with Ogie in Bini and Ojie/Oje in Esan. They all mean the same thing. Ovbie/Ovbi is not in the picture at all.

Note that I said 'cognate'. There was no borrowing involved. All these languages are related (Edoid languages), and as such inherited certain words in common from their common ancestor language (Proto-Edoid). Of course due to the linguistic phenomenon of sound shifts over the course of centuries, the 'j' in the Esan version of the word now varies as 'g' in Bini and 'v' in Urhobo and Isoko.


Coming to Obi. Based on this, if you want to claim that Obi came from Bini, then ovbi (child) is a very very weird source --- it did not even serve as the source in the Ovie example as you thought.

An Igbo origin for Obi is most plausible, although I will still give Anioma (more specifically Aniocha) credit for semantic innovation in the way the word came to be used in the Anioma area.

'Obi' (same intonation, same everything with Anioma 'Obi' ) in Igboland means the central building or court from which the head of a household, or the head of a kindred or a quarter or a clan lords it over his dependents. In loose terms, 'Obi' is a palace. Seeing any relationship with kingship yet? Referring to someone by something it is closely associated with is a common metonymic device, eg. Pharaoh = Great House.

When you understand that 'Obi' started out as a fixed place/location before it became a person, 'Ime Obi' begins to make sense.

AshiwajuFoward:
Ode Oshi. Look here Bini boy, I have no problem with you worshipping your useless oba of bini or whatever, but you DON'T have to PRETEND to be Yoruba to do that. There are enough of your fellows on here already doing same so you don't need a misleading moniker to get attention. REAL Yorubas are too proud to be promoting foreign kings like that useless oba of bini. The Ooni, Alaafin, Awujale, Owa Obokun, e.t.c are far greater than that useless bini king. Don't be ashamed to use an edo or bini moniker to promote your king. It's o.k, really.

ifytrik:
In as much as i hate seing single guys messing around with married women, i will not blame majority of the guys but rather i blame the married women involved in such stupid act, this is because 90% of relationship between single guys and married women happens mainly as a result of the married women not being sexually satisfied by their hubands or wanting to taste bigger or longer dicks, i had the oportunity to date three different married women but i turned them down because i made a promise never to have anything to do with another mans wife, as a guy, it takes a lot to be able to resist this married women when they come tempting you because they offer you much more than your reguler girlfriend can offer, so in most cases the women are to blame.

baby124:
Bini did not organize Lagos. They met Lagos organized. They went there to trade like any other group. They were invited to Lagos by Ile Ife princes and Oyo Princes being that they are siblings. Otherwise the Ijebu would have killed them. This is why they stayed in a small area of Lagos Island forming Oba of Lagos. Ijebu from time of trade controlled the whole sea and fought the British terribly for it. Ijebu killed any one, even Yorubas that ventured to take part in their sea fortune. Where were the Bini to fight if they truly controlled anything? They formed obaship in their territory like others did and used marriage to extend their influence.

They did not in anyway cede any territory because a chief priest grabbed the Obaship. Chief priest from Ile Ife. Lagos as of then and before the Benin came was a cacophony of Yoruba people with many Oyo’s here. Those Oyos came with Benin and also have their Obaship in Lagos. Others like the Egba came after. This is why Lagos speaks Oyo dialect. Lagos has been known long before, the Ijebus controlled it fiercely and violently for trade. While Aworis were farmers and more welcoming. Eko is pure Yoruba and is a farm settlement.

Bigsunny01:
Good morning

Kwamecron:
Stolen vehicle

SeaTrade:
I don't have the money?Are you mad?
I am just simply telling you that your rusty junk is overpriced by 3m,which I'm sure you are even a middleman.
9m kor,90m nii...Mad man again.
I hope you know the 2015 W212 facelift sells for this your asking price sha

SeaTrade:
9m lol,mad man.