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Sagamite bla bla
calm down with ur big english

we came to the same conclusion that there shd be a divorce settlement but u say the algorithm is not sutiable for u
thats ur opinion
I belv in 50-50 of assets gained after the marriage or better still a pre nup to clarify positions
u dont
Life goes on, i still say na the 100m wey tiger ex-wife collect dey do u

dayokanu:
How that one take concern Asenal?

In that 9yrs he has won 2 CL, 5 league titles and numerous other trophies

Tell us about Monsieur wenGAY's 30yrs reign as a Football coach

chamotex:
How will that help you to win the Premiership?
Arsenal fans . . . smh.

it means barca has a chance to win the liga if they can win villareal tonite
i think the season is over 4 us.

So the struggle continues
On a lighter note Mou's 9 year home unbeaten record ended with a 1-0 by Sporting Gijon

Manuel87:
Pls welcome d most vociferous arsenal fan in d whole of history 2 dis thread. My fav arsenal player is nick bendtner(sentiments included) . B xpectin some posts 4rm me anytime soonest. Bye fellows bruffahs in d Gun

u r welcome, bendtner supporter

still a scam

I am the authentic biolabee
this guy is a scammer oi\
because i spoke on his scam yesterday he is now using an alias close to mine o


https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=633615.msg8011458#msg8011458

ThiefOfHearts:
I hope they learn from you biolabee.

How na? this guys do not even give any quarter
Its No Retweet No Surrender

scam if u hover over the link
na spam o

Jennykadry i have heard of u but i am now seeing u up close
U be kolo but i like ur style


I agree with you Sagamite the algorithms may be outmoded but i still agree with the principle
A woman sacrifices a lot in a marriage and this whether helping in keeping the child from paedos who roam and finger kids up and down
You now say because she is a bad wife she leave s with nothing i do not agree,

Lets just leave it at that
Lets hope we have blissful marriages

until the english FA
1. let footie develop without the lump through way

2. discourage the shawcrosseses, bartons, jamies and call reckless tackles full-bloodied challenges

England can never win a world cup

Neymar, nice way to showcase ur self globally
he was playing with a lack luster robinho against argies hence they could not penetrate

He will do great

I dont think he will in epl, many breakers of destiny
he shd go to spain

Barca or Real

Nice one on elaborating ur stuff
but what u said is not far off from the current practice

Like in Canada (quoting wiki)

Spousal Support (Alimony) In Canada

Types of Spousal Support
In Canada, spousal support may be awarded upon divorce, under the federal Divorce Act, or upon separation without divorce under provincial statutes. There are generally three different forms of spousal support awarded:
1) Compensatory Support – This form of support compensates an individual for their contributions to the relationship as well as for any losses that individual has suffered; 2) Non-Compensatory Support – In some cases support may be awarded on a needs basis. This form of support may be awarded by a Court where an individual is sick or disabled; and 3) Contractual Support – This form of support upholds a contract between the parties which governs support payments.[56]
Married Spouses and Common-law Spouses
Both married spouses and common-law spouses may be entitled to spousal support. An important distinction between the two is that common-law spouses must start an action claiming spousal support within one year of the breakdown of the relationship. A second important distinction is that only married couples may divorce under the federal Divorce Act, common-law spouses may only separate under provincial legislation, such as Ontario's Family Law Act[57] or British Columbia's Family Relation's Act.[58] No such limitation arises for married individuals. In addition to being in a marriage or common-law relationship, courts will look at the conditions, means, needs and other circumstances of each spouse. This includes:
1) The length of time the spouses cohabited; 2) The functions performed by each spouse during the relationship; and 3) Any existing orders or agreements.
This is by no means an exhaustive list of factors which the court will consider when determining entitlement. Each case is determined on its own unique set of circumstances.
Factors for Awarding Spousal Support
The federal Divorce Act at s.15.2 (6) states that there are four objectives of spousal support orders:
1) Recognize any economic advantages or disadvantages to the spouses arising from the marriage or its breakdown; 2) Apportion between the spouses any financial consequences arising from the care of any child of the marriage over and above any obligation for the support of any child of the marriage; 3) Relieve any economic hardship of the spouses arising from the breakdown of the marriage; and 4) In so far as practicable, promote the economic self-sufficiency of each spouse within a reasonable period of time.[56]
Amount and Duration
The longer the length of cohabitation and the greater the disparity between each party’s incomes, the larger an award of spousal support will be and the longer the duration will be. As stated above, spousal support calculations are complex. There are no tables to use as in child support calculations. Lawyers use special software designed specifically to calculate the entitlement, amount, and duration of support. After information is input into a computer, the software will provide a range for the spousal support amount and duration.
Depending on the means and needs of the individual receiving support, the court will generally award an amount of spousal support somewhere within the range provided by the software. The longer the relationship, the greater the presumption that the parties should have an equal standard of living.
Similarly, the length of the relationship will be taken into account when determining how long spousal support should be paid for. Awards for spousal support can be for a limited term or indefinite.[59

I still put it to u guys that it is the 100m that is vexing u pple. U have to look at it in relation to tigers wealth

my 2 cents o

Sagamite:
Points that my points rubbished?

It is up to you to counter.

nope i dont have to
this page has gone 8 pages and u hv made no point so far

u say u blv in some form of settlement but still harp on 100m that tiger collected
ok then propose something u tell me squat there would be a movement to change all that

all u do is just moan moan abta problem but can not put up a framework whereby pple can start discussing abround then u say i am making rubbish points
reminds me of sepp blatter

i now see y duduspace did not bother going further with u, i think i will do same

Sagamite:
What is your point?

That makes the laws make sense?

just as u no c my point

^^^^


na wa e be like say this sule sef like wahala

[size=4pt]unsubscribing[/size]

my point how
ive made my point since
u guys are going on and on and on about 100m dollars
seems nutin can get thru

So i put it to u can u propose a better model?

since ive spabotted now

http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=8662940
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=7356641


Women r now paying to men

Make una go marry paris hilton, ibb grabd pikin or u fit try madonna sef

jchublue:
The BB has even created a special industry – the BB pouch or rubber-case making industry. Some people have 3 or 4 different BB covers or pouches to protect their dear BB, but no deodorant or anti-pespirant for protection from sweat. Charity starts at phone, sorry home.

http://woahnigeria./2010/09/16/naija-berry/

COOL

guys if the thing dey vex una

make una marry rich heiress

paris dey, walmart pikin, for here sef babangida grand daughters dey
u sef go collect settlement

seriously, a story on galimony

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/role-reversal-wives-angry-paying-alimony/story?id=8662940
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/role-reversal-wives-angry-paying-alimony/story?id=8662940

Role Reversal: Ex-Wives Angry Over Paying Alimony
Long a Gripe of Divorced Men, More Women Feel Burdened by Spousal Support

By ALICE GOMSTYN
ABC NEWS Business Unit
Sept.30, 2009—

He got their second house, an investment property she had bought in Costa Rica, and a $96,000 annual alimony payment.

She got angry.

"It's so obscene," said Holly Chiancola, 52, a Gloucester, Mass. real estate agent who is fighting the terms of a divorce settlement ordered by a judge in 2006.

You used to hear about divorced men complaining that their ex-wives were unfairly cutting into their income. Now, as more women become primary breadwinners, the complaints increasingly come from them. The number of American men receiving alimony has climbed, from 7,000 in 1998 to 13,000 last year, according to U.S. Census Bureau data

Chiancola's ex, who declined to comment for this story, is among them.

Thanks in part to the pre-financial crisis real estate boom, Chiancola earned considerably more than her ex-husband, a sometime carpenter and fashion model, during their 19-year-marriage. She said her ex didn't hesitate to take advantage of that -- even though her income plummeted after the real estate boom years, and she's now struggling to make her mortgage payments.

Chiancola said she partly blames Massachusetts' "outdated" divorce laws for her predicament -- she is a supporter of the group Mass Alimony Reform -- but she's also plenty outraged at her husband.

"He went for the jugular, believe me," she said.

Aggressive pursuit of spousal support by men is becoming more common, some divorce lawyers say, as the stigma of asking for alimony fades.

"Early on, men were somewhat embarrassed to ask for alimony because it went across their defined roles in the culture. That has diminished," said Marlene Moses, the president-elect of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers, an organization of family law attorneys. "There's been a revolution of men and their rights and the vigor with which they pursue legal opportunities for themselves."

It's a revolution, experts say, that has been going on for more than 20 years -- actress Joan Collins' divorce and alimony case made headlines in the 1980s -- but today, it's still catching some women off guard.

Take Terry, a 56-year-old Florida healthcare executive, who asked to have her last name witheld because her divorce from her husband is not yet settled.

"He's a very independent man, a very macho guy, and I was quite surprised that he would ask for alimony," said Terry.

Alimony Ex-Husband: 'I Helped Her'

Terry said her soon-to-be ex is asking for $2,500 per month in alimomy -- and she's fighting it.

Terry, who earns more than $100,000 a year, said she's not against the principle of women paying alimony to their former spouses. But in her case, she said, it's not warranted. Her husband was laid off from an $85,000 per year job several months ago, but "he's completely capable of earning a living."

For some men, just as with some women, it's past experience, not future earning potential, that weighs heavily on their decisions to seek alimony. One divorced New England man told ABCNews.com that he deserved tens of thousands in alimony payments because he played a key role in his ex-wife's professional success.

"I helped her out in the background," said the man, who asked that his name be withheld due to ongoing divorce proceedings. Without him, he said, "there's absolutely no way she could have done what she did."

Despite the increases in men seeking and receiving alimony, advocates warn against linking the trend to equality in the courtroom. Family court judges still tend to favor women, said Ned Holstein, the founder of Fathers & Families, a group advocating family court reform.

"Family court still gives custody overwhelmingly to mothers, child support overwhelmingly to mothers, and courts still give almony overwhelmingly to mothers and women," he said.

"The family courts came into existence years ago in order to give things to mothers that mothers needed," he said. "The times have changed and the courts have not."

Recession Brings More Male Alimony?

Today's economy may be adding new men to ranks of alimony-seekers. As traditionally male-dominated industries like finance and construction continue to struggle, more men are finding themselves with lower income or no income at all, forcing a newfound dependence on their wives or, in some cases, ex-wives.

Earlier this year, a British judge ruled that Elena Bowes Marano should pay her ex, real estate tycoon Peter Marano, 5 million pounds (about $8 million) after his property portfolio dwindled in value -- an order that Elena, originally from a wealthy California family, is fighting.

Such cases notwithstanding, a reversal of traditional gender roles in a divorce doesn't necessarily create more acrimony, experts say.

Alexis Martin Neely, a prominent California family lawyer, is an alimony-paying woman content with her divorce settlement. Supporting her husband, she has said, allows him to spend time with their children.

"I do really like him being available for the kids and their school events and if he can't work and do that, I'd rather support him to be readily available for them," she wrote in a blog post. "He deserves it and so do they."

Copyright © 2011 ABC News Internet Ventures

Gal-imony': Celeb Women Who Pay in the Divorce
Kate Walsh May Become Latest Female Celeb to Pay Alimony in Her Divorce

By LUCHINA FISHER
April 17, 2009—

Kate Walsh is hoping to avoid joining the ranks of other well-heeled celebrity women who've had to pay their ex-husbands after their divorces were final.

According to E! online, the star of the ABC show "Private Practice" has taken the pre-emptive measure of filing legal papers in an attempt to stop the court from awarding alimony to her estranged husband, film producer Alex Young, in their ongoing divorce battle.

Walsh and Young were married in September 2007. By last December, a short 15 months later, their marriage was over. Young filed for divorce citing irreconcilable differences. Walsh counter-sued two weeks later, claiming the relationship actually ended five days before Young said.

Perhaps Walsh has seen what's happened in recent years to other successful celebrity women, like Madonna, Britney Spears and Anne Heche, when they filed for divorce. In all three cases, the women not only earned more money than their former spouses but they ended up supporting their ex's after they split.

Kate Walsh and estranged husband Alex Young.
"Why should it be any different for women than it should be for men?" L.A.-based divorce attorney William Glucksman told ABCNews.com.

With women, in both the celebrity and business worlds, earning more and an evolution in matrimonial law to create more parity, Glucksman says women who pay spousal support are becoming more common.

Similarly, there's been an increase in women paying child support. More than half of divorce lawyers surveyed by the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers last year cited an increase in the number of mothers assigned to make child support payments over the past five years.

"It's an outgrowth of many years of elimination of gender bias in matrimonial law," Glucksman said about the increased liability of women in divorces today. Slower to change has been the public's attitude about women paying in a divorce. "It's taken longer for people's philosophies and expectations to change," Glucksman said.

That includes men. "Many husbands whose philosophies or emotions are rooted in the more traditional or old world thinking don't want to ask for alimony," he said. "But I think it's incumbent upon attorneys or counsel to level the playing field. They have just as much right as a woman does. They shouldn't feel bad."

They are in good company. ABCNews.com takes a look at several high-profile divorces where the woman ended up paying alimony or "gal-imony."

Madonna

Madonna and ex-husband Guy Ritchie.
The Material Girl's reported $76-$96 million settlement with ex Guy Ritchie was considered a record payout, let alone one by a woman.

Even her publicist Liz Rosenberg acknowledged its significance. "I'd assume it's one of the largest payouts ever in a divorce settlement," Rosenberg told the AP. Not long after, Madonna and Ritchie issued their own statement refuting the settlement amount.

"We have tried to maintain a dignified silence regarding the details of our divorce for the last few months whilst accepting the obvious media interest. A misleading and inaccurate statement, specifically in relation to the sums of money involved, was wrongly issued , this week," their statement read. "The financial details of the settlement will remain private, save to say that both of us are happy with our agreement."

It's probably safe to add that Ritchie was likely happier with his end of the deal, since Madonna was the one paying.

Kirstie Alley

Kirstie Alley and ex-husband Parker Stevenson.
Alley's 1997 divorce from ex-husband Parker Stevenson became fodder for the tabloids when Stevenson sued for spousal support.

Alley was at the height of her career playing Ted Danson's love interest on "Cheers," when she split from her husband of 14 years, Stevenson of "Hardy Boys" and "Baywatch" fame.

In documents that leaked to the press, Stevenson detailed their lavish lifestyle, which included multiple residences with full-time staffs of housekeepers, chefs and nannies; exotic animals for pets, children's birthday parties with marching bands and lavish gifts of Ferraris and sailboats.

In one filing, Stevenson asked for "sufficient support" to "maintain a lifestyle commensurate to that which Kirstie and I had enjoyed during our marriage," including $18,000 a month to pay rent on a home in Bel Air.

Though Stevenson had once enjoyed the spotlight, he claimed that his earnings were only a fraction of what Alley earned and he did not expect to ever approach her income.

Ultimately, he settled for a one-time payout of $6 million, according to Forbes.com.

Anne Heche

Anne Heche and ex-husband Coley Laffoon.
Heche's divorce from Coley Laffoon was not pretty. In the press, she called him a deadbeat dad to their son Homer, now 6. In court papers, he called her crazy, referring to her 2001 autobiography titled "Call Me Crazy."

Heche, who had once been linked to Ellen DeGeneres, married Laffoon, a video photographer in 2002. Laffoon claimed in legal papers that he quit his job to stay home and take care of Homer while Heche was shooting the ABC series "Men in Trees" in Vancouver.

When the marriage broke up five years later, Laffoon sought at least $33,000 a month in spousal support and custody of Homer, claiming that Heche was a poor parent with "bizarre and delusional behavior," according to a court filing obtained by People magazine.

Heche shot back in a statement released to the press: "For the past several years, the child's father has refused to get a job in order to contribute financially to the child's care."

The case was finally settled earlier this year. In lieu of alimony, Heche was ordered to pay Laffoon a lump sum of $275,000 along with $3,700 a month in child support, according to The Associated Press.

Janet Jackson

Janet Jackson and her once secret ex-husband Rene Elizondo
Jackson was able to keep her 1991 marriage to longtime collaborator Rene Elizondo completely hush-hush until Elizondo filed for divorce in June 2000. "I hope my fans will understand that I tried to keep my marriage private in an effort to have a normal family life. I wish Rene only the best going forward," Jackson said in a statement to Jet magazine at the time.

Elizondo, who co-wrote 37 of Jackson's biggest hits, including "Rhythm Nation" and "That's the Way Love Goes," was obviously hoping for more than Jackson's best wishes. Challenging the validity of his prenuptial agreement, he sued Jackson for a reported $25 million in support.

After a two-year legal battle, the couple quietly settled. According to US Weekly, Elizondo received $15 million, the couple's Mercedes and their five-bedroom Malibu beachfront home.

Britney Spears

Britney Spears and her ex-husband Kevin Federline
When Spears ended her brief two-year marriage to rapper-dancer Kevin Federline in November 2006, she seemed to have the upper hand. There was a reported prenuptial agreement in place and she had custody of the couple's two boys Preston and Jayden.

Then Spears' world began to unravel, following a widely publicized hair-shaving incident and two stints in rehab. By March 2007, when a settlement was reached, it was reported that Federline had received anywhere from the $1 million stipulated in his prenup to $19 million.

By then, Federline was embroiled in a custody battle with Spears, who only had visitation rights to see their children. Last July she gave up her custody fight but has since gained more visiting time with the boys. At the same time, her child support payments to Federline increased by $5,000 to $20,000 a month.

Spears was also on the hook for Federline's legal fees at the tune of nearly half a million dollars.

Copyright © 2011 ABC News Internet Ventures

Still another celeb

Smartly dressed Claire, who comes from Croydon, was said to be initially demanding a £10million settlement based on the French player’s £130,000-a week earnings.
This included money from his ad deals with Pringles and McDonald's and a cut of the £5.9million marital home in Hampstead, North London.
But the 27-year-old eventually accepted £8million to end their messy divorce battle.

Claire was granted a quickie divorce in September last years on the grounds of the Henry's 'unreasonable behaviour', after he was linked to make-up artist Sadie Hewlett.
It was claimed that Claire found text messages to another woman on the Barcelona star's mobile phone


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1110362/Now-know-Thierry-Henrys-ex-wife-spending-8m-divorce-settlement--VERY-posh-underwear.html#ixzz1HkAV3JrT

Please this is getting boring
U all say that there shd be a settlement but there shd be a cap right?
ok y dont u prepare a pettion for a class action so as to cause a change in these law so as to protect ur wealth fro mur would be wives

PHEW

harakiri calm down ur blood is so HOT  

i was being sarcastic making a jab at ur earlier comment of being sentimemtal
i took ur comments the way they were n u did not bother to do same just went off on the tangent after saying whether i have a brother or not

Let me repost it then tell me what u think

Atreides:
Okay i get it now.
@biola,it's complicated. After going through some posts here i don't think it's as simple as yes or no.
Well i have to ask,why do you think she should get the divorce settlement? If you think it should be because of the sacrifices she made(child-bearing,taking care of the kids etc)then i have a problem with that. The man too makes sacrifices in a marriage. If he's not rewarded for his sacrifices,then why should she? That's what i have a problem with-the fairness of it all.

now u see the quandary i appreciate ur stepping a step back
what i can say is that this model needs to be relooked in the context of better empowerment opportunities for the modern woman
Historically women worked in the home or in subsistence farms so basically did not pull economic weight and to ensure they were not at the receiving end, the law was applied at 50%.
but now that women can be empowered mnaybe there is a change but there shd stil be sth, that is my own point

On the other hand,i don't think a woman should be thrown out into the street just like that. If she was a good wife and a good mother to her kids,then she deserves better.

I think in such cases(i'm talking real cases here,not cases where some gold-digger marries a man with the intention  of getting a fat paycheck after a few years),then i believe the wife deserves a divorce settlement,but a reasonable one.

I think whatever  she could've earned if she was working-based on her skills etc-should be paid to her. If she could realistically have earned 50,000  USD a year for 5 years then she deserves 250 grand. Even if the man is worth 500 million dollars,she should only get what is rightfully hers-the 250 grand,unless the man wants to dash her 10 million,but that should be his choice.
And child support too.
Please note that i think this should be done in cases where the wife was a good wife and mother-not a gold-digger.

How would the law determine a gold digger from a good wife, depends on a layer (money), too complex , see my point the law is an ass

It's not a yes or no question;should there be divorce settlement or not. I think it varies from case to case. Sometimes yes,sometimes no. And even when there is a settlement,it should be reasonable. It should be based on what the wife coulda realistically earned if she was working(that's if she was a housewife). Whether the man is a billionaire or not shouldn't matter-she should only get what she deserves.

If she was working throughout their marriage then i don't see any need for a divorce settlement.

I will throw this Q back to u, lets say u are to arbitrate a couple on a settlement.
The man and wife are both working
but it was a loan/grant  from the wife to the husband that enabled him start up
how owuld u proceed

Good point though, and lastly id that a real journal of ur life, seems pretty personal in the big cold cyber world

no kain, the only thing is that u have to have a UK bank account

ubuntu, that one go take time
By the time u get 100 fanshares = 1 share, u go appreciate, na dough!!!!!!!!!

hmmm,

since uve made it personal by using my brother

i start with the kids

once the kids are sorted out, there should be child support
next is by law, she is entitled to half of what the partnership made in the years of marriage

how did i accuse u sentimentally, i just asked a simple Q

harakiri r u saying that there shd be no divorce settlemment at all?

Altreides reread your post im asking the same q again?

jydo, good to see u r off the warpath

http://www.arsenalfanshare.com/faqs

yes o thanks dudu
thinking of signing up by mid year was just getting some jitters from the half yr loss

from my calcs of about $50 monthly (1/2 a fanshare) it would take 20 years to get one share na wa o



i spoke to the administrator and she mentions no dividend that u only get capital appreciuation

God dey

I was at the Wolves game at the emirate and it was full
i told my madam see kaching! $$$$$

during the brealk we all went to the concession stand and lined up to buy hotdogs and drinks, some even fosters, $$$$
veritable business model

Wennger don try

What i mean by tier is that the system does not specifically identify u as rich and taxes u more
there is a flat rate
corporate tax is charged at 30% while individual is taxed up to 40 depending on the earning potential
so what do u propose if u say we are bogged down with old mentality thinking

dudu point taken, r u watching the wales debacle?

dudu, heads up on the finance stuff

on matters gooners still blv in the finances we made a half year loss
i was thinking of the fan share thingie or shd we move to our thread

thots?

Sagamite:
That said, I find a system erring in determining to people the standard of life their kids should live based on their income.

I for one, if I was rich, would not want to spoil my kids. I will not send them to snubbish private schools. I would not buy them a Range Rover when they are 16. When (not if) they work in a fastfood joint/restaurant and they can save up to buy a Jeep, I would help them launch it. That is my choice and I should have a fundamental right to make that choice about how my kids should grow up and the mentality they develop.

The courts in a sane system should only be able to set a reasonable minimum standard of living for kids which can vary based on wealth, but should reach only

most rich set up trusts for their kids to ensure they stay at the desired level
On rich pple u forget they have tax havens to shelter their weealth
iif i get u u are suggesting a tiered system
eg

1bn and above 5%
<500m 10%
<100m 20%
<50m 30%
<20m 40%
>1 <5m 45%
<1m 50%

this would be difficult to administer hence the equal rate across all people just like tax

thanks jare , dudu ive said the same thing since but they persist in their near--thal ways
all they hv being bringing up are extreme examples of tiger, paul mc cartney, ross perot
what about the many middle class families

gold digging is not new u forget males call thier own sugar boy or gigolos or wateva?!

phewwwwwwww

on matters gooners still blv in the finances we made a half year loss
i was thinking of the fan share thingie or shd we move to our thread

pro01:
I agree that in situations were a couple toiled together to build their home and fortune for several years, the woman ought to get something (commensurate with her contributions) if divorce occurs. But this argument is not about toiling middle class folks; it is about a woman who marries a millionaire and thinks she deserves a chunk of his fortune simply because she gave birth to and took care of thier kids (again I ask, what about single mothers?).

hey bro pro
i think u shd drop it
we all know the law is a blind ass

the law that helps the woman who helped her family finance will also help the gld digger


u guys are still focussing on 100m it was 10%!!!!, me i go pray to be that kind of wealthy person o ,


chair GBAM! again

sharrap there! go finish ur tori of the unrepentant V