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Dibiachukwu:This thread is for Africans - black that is concerned with colonization and racism, you distracting troll! Instead of contributing...you want to singe me out and not offer a single solution? Please sit! 1. I didnt realize I had to reveal my name on this forum for everyone that TYPES is a somebody you useless sack of sh.it. 2. Learn to convey your messages in whatever language youre babbling in, in this case English - in a coherent manner - no one knows what your thoughtless babble factored out to, it translates to this: errrfsdawadrctdagujbyn. Come back, repost and make sure your rubbish is expressed in a manner that HUMANS can actually understand. 3. You also need to learn reading comprehension mother.f.ucker. I said we need to send CORRUPT leaders packing, and if thats GEJ, you told on yourself dumb a.s..s. Until then... Kindly shut the f.uck up, only grown men and grown women who are interested in nation building allowed in my thread. Did I tag you mother.f..ucker? Because unlike the sympathizing nigerians that has no balls to stand up to ARABIC OR EUROPEAN OR CHINESE countrymen that are xenophobic racist a.s.h.oles, I will and not a single f.u.ck. will be given. And unlike your WORTHLESS comments, whether I agreed or not, excellent points for both sides were made before YOU slid on your belly to speak. As for you, you spineless punk? Get the f.uck out my thread! And dont look back. FAIR WARNING TO PUT YOU ON NOTICE: I WILL ALWAYS post things that unites us black Africans against oppression, and unlike you - behaving like a fan girl, the PEOPLE of AFRICA trumps my tribe and any fucking political affiliation, and soon more will think like me you self hating primitive thinking tribalistic rodent! It will always be BLACK AFRICAN before my tribe and my nation. It will always be THE PEOPLE OF AFRICA over any one leader. So its best if you see me to look the other way, or Ill rip u alive online as I dont make physical threats online. Youve been warned. Given that you cant form three sentences correctly, you dare not debate me on any political issue. & Just in case you didnt get that memo above...just in case youre fumbling in need of a tutor This thread is for: BLACK AFRICAN NATION BUILDERS THAT ARE CONCERNED WITH CRISIS ABROAD AND AT HOME...WHO WILL SHARE THEIR OPINION, CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISMS OR NOT (POSITIVE AGREEMENTS) ABOUT OUR AFFAIRS. We are fighting ebola terrorism, bh, and your biiitch az.z is worried if I was talking about GEJ? SHUT THE F..UCK UP! |
LaBellaMafiaZA:It is called foreign affairs. If you are too defensive to see your country being talked about, too teary eyed, too thin skinned, or cant take it...feel free to go to a different forum dear. Otherwise, I will discuss any issue that I think impedes or slows down the black Africans progress as a whole, that includes the soil that you are standing on. Dont take offense. People discuss Nigerians all day..we battle it out and move on. But seeing that this IS a NIGERIAN forum love.. you should probably avoid this forum, especially if you suffer from hypertension. |
Blakjewelry:Good point |
iconize:They best wake up, eh! As long as they are not watchful..Nigeria is in danger. |
gatiano:We must unite. They are getting to the point where they fear no law. |
morpheus24:They are proving it here in this thread. |
If it comes down to it white apes, we will defend our sister over you. My issue is that you apes are still trying to rule them. And race does matter because no other race but whites are so despicable and murderous |
Donmarrius:We need to send them packing and have a call to return home! |
kingston277:It seems to be escalating! And I agree with you, we have to love self first! We should propose conventions to tour Africa and globally so we love self: educational conventions! |
KidStranglehold:Dont we have it backwards? Pick on them call them akata simply because our forefathers sold them? Instead of fighting oyibo we fight them and beg to be in america o. With all the prostitution in all of Africa, we should be silent. Instead of fighting S. africa for xenophobia, we pick on them. |
SPOPOVICH:Why arent you banned you savage cavebiiitch? You rob us WORLDWIDE and blame us for the predicament? Ppl dont understand that all whites should be killed o |
igbo2011:I have to say I like critiques of ourselves. Many of which are true - just as long as we charge ALL of black Africa (ghana ams s. africa too!). I agree with what is said. |
spectroscopic:You spoke some truth. Keep being critical of us and our culture so that we can grow! |
This is an interesting question. I do think some aspects of our culture should be changed. But, I think a lot of Africans have this selfish culture - look at liberians with the ebola cases. But, yes, I concede some of what we do should be changed. I just dont like other Africans: ghana and south africans shaming us for it |
Omololu007:@megaman1987 @rossike @omenka @blackjewelry @harmthe and this is another incident, this time it is a Kenyan in Saudi Arabia A tearful Kenyan woman pleaded with Kenyans to rescue her from her employers in a video she recorded in a bathroom. Njeri Mwaura got her current job through an agent based on Accra Road, Nairobi and travelled to Saudi Arabia where her employers are allegedly mistreating her. Mwaura narrated in KiSwahili how she had not eaten in four days and is based in Riyadh but from Limuru, Kenya. It is not clear when the video was made, how long she has been in the Middle East or what she is required to do in her job. This is not the first case of human rights violations against a Kenyan living in Saudi Arabia. Kenyan media has repeatedly reported the abuse of locals working as domestic workers in Saudi Arabia. http://thisisafrica.me/kenyan-womans...-saudi-arabia/ Kenyan Working in Saudi Arabia Record Video Appealing for Help - YouTube www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7lvei21Cx8 Check out the above please @morpheus24 @atlwireles @francleanflecy @spectroscopic @igbo2011 @kingston277 |
vdGeist:You cant even rent out apartments from whites in your own country. Please give foreign affairs a look. Ive posted every bit of your racism problem there! |
itstpia1:I agree. Strange fixation! |
vdGeist:Where is YOUR forum? Dont tell me about COULDS. Tell me where is YOUR forum? Im going to start calling you oreos VOLUNTARY slaves. |
EroZA:Deport. It wont be the first - enslaved Africans ..thats what you guys are! |
In a Divided City, Many Blacks See Echoes of White Superiority Per-Anders Pettersson for The New York Times Black and mixed-race commuters go to a taxi and train station. Many nonwhites live in distant townships. More Photos » CAPE TOWN — For countless foreign visitors, Cape Town is an indelible symbol of the beauty and promise of post-apartheid South Africa. Beyond its gorgeous scenery and great wines, its very logo — an outline of majestic Table Mountain superimposed over a rainbow — emphasizes its historic mix of races and cultures, and its most famous resident, Desmond Tutu, is revered as a symbol of tolerance, inclusiveness and forgiveness. Multimedia Slide Show In Cape Town, Apartheid’s Scars Run Deep Connect With Us on Twitter Follow @nytimesworld for international breaking news and headlines. Twitter List: Reporters and Editors The New York Times Apartheid left deep scars that still demarcate Cape Town. More Photos » Enlarge This Image Per-Anders Pettersson for The New York Times Cape Town’s racial divisions are reflected in places like restaurants. More Photos » But for many black South Africans, this city represents something very different: the last bastion of white rule. “No matter how famous/rich u r, ur still a 2nd class citizen if ur Black in Cape Town,” Lindiwe Suttle, a singer and performance artist, wrote in a Twitter challenge to Helen Zille, the white leader of the party that governs this city. After the post drew a chorus of support from black celebrities and others in the echo chamber of Twitter, Ms. Zille shot back, “What complete nonsense.” But that was hardly the last word. The Twitter battle, which broke out a few months ago and featured dueling hashtags (#capetownisracist and a countercampaign, #capetownisawesome), has given way to soul-searching in this city of 3.5 million people at the southern tip of Africa: Does this nation’s celebrated rainbow end where the mountain meets the sea? This is the only major metropolis in South Africa where black people are not the majority, and it remains deeply divided. The particularly harsh legacy of apartheid as it was carried out here has left especially deep scars that still demarcate the geography: whites in the city center and its mountainside inner suburbs, nonwhites in the distant townships on the Cape Flats. Apartheid policies effectively barred blacks from living or even working in the city, giving so-called colored, or mixed-race, people, today the city’s largest ethnic group, priority over blacks for jobs and housing. Beyond history, there is present-day politics. Western Cape is the only one of the country’s nine provinces not run by the governing African National Congress. It is run by Ms. Zille’s Democratic Alliance, which grew out of the white anti-apartheid movement but ultimately came to include remnants of the old National Party that created apartheid. In a speech last year in a black township near Cape Town, South Africa’s president, Jacob Zuma, said the city had an “extremely apartheid system,” according to local newspaper reports on his remarks. The African National Congress is trying to win the province, and the Democratic Alliance has dismissed the assertion that Cape Town is racist as a political ploy. “It is labeled a racist city by the A.N.C. because it is the only metro in the country they don’t control,” said Patricia de Lille, the mayor of Cape Town. The city government is trying hard to change what Ms. de Lille calls “the spatial development of apartheid.” It has renamed two major boulevards in honor of Nelson Mandela, South Africa’s first black president, and Helen Suzman, an ardent white opponent of apartheid. The two streets converge in the center of the city, a merger meant to symbolize the hope of integration. But a study completed by researchers at the University of Cape Town in December 2010 found that black residents saw few business opportunities for themselves in Cape Town, and that companies struggled to recruit and retain them. It concluded that in Western Cape, “African people are almost always less successful than white people in moving up career paths, creating an ‘ebony ceiling’ effect.” The office is not the only place where blacks feel unwelcome. Many of the more exclusive Atlantic coast beaches, which used to prohibit blacks, still tend to attract almost entirely whites, reinforcing the divide. “I hate going to Camps Bay because everyone there is white,” said Yoliswa Dwane, referring to an upscale seaside suburb on the Atlantic coast that was once reserved for whites. “You don’t get the perception that this is an integrated country.” The discrimination black South Africans describe experiencing here is not the iron-fisted kind that marked the apartheid era. It is more subtle and sometimes hard to pin down. Some report being told that there are no tables available at an empty restaurant, or no cars at a well-stocked rental car office. Others recount being warned by white neighbors not to slaughter animals for festive occasions, or being mistaken for a prostitute simply for having drinks in a bar full of white patrons. And in a city where economic inequality yawns wide, class has in some ways become a proxy for race. Osiame Molefe, a journalist, recently wrote about being turned away from a nightspot. “The third (and final) time I was turned away from Asoka, a bar and lounge in Kloof Street, a representative of the establishment wrote, ‘I can inform you that Asoka does not have a racist door policy! We will be the first to admit that our policy is based on class and superficiality — unfortunately that is what our regulars expect and want. And realistically this is the unfortunate reality of the society we live in!’ ” Left unsaid is how, exactly, one determines “class.” It is hard to reconcile Cape Town’s deep racial divides today with its history as one of the biggest melting pots in the world. Beginning in the 17th century, the Dutch East India Company brought slaves and prisoners from Mozambique and Madagascar, as well as from India and Indonesia. These groups intermarried. White blood inevitably entered the gene pool, too. In the 17th and 18th centuries, racial barriers existed but were not terribly rigid, historians say. “Pigmentation wasn’t an absolute barrier to changing your station,” said Vivian Bickford-Smith, a historian at the University of Cape Town. “There was a saying: ‘Money whitens.’ ” One of the Cape’s earliest governors, Simon van der Stel, was of mixed race. But by the end of the 19th century, pseudoscientific attitudes about race had come into vogue, along with the popular notion of a hierarchy among races, with black Africans at the bottom. When the National Party came to power in 1948 and declared its new policy of apartheid, the separation between the races was etched in stone. People who lived in mixed communities like District 6 near the center of the city were forced from their homes and moved to desolate, segregated towns and townships on the Cape Flats, far from the city. Blacks were so unwelcome in Cape Town that it was often assumed that no blacks were actually from the city. Geoffrey Mamputa’s family has been in Cape Town since the middle of the 19th century, but people still ask him where his home is, even though blacks in the city outnumbered whites by almost two to one in a 2007 count. “When I say I am from Cape Town, the response is always, ‘No black person is from Cape Town,’ ” Mr. Mamputa said. “African people add to the discrimination in the sense that they see themselves as outsiders. They are creating that sense that we don’t belong here.” The racial tensions grew deeper as colored people received preferential treatment, part of a divide-and-rule strategy. During the 1970s and ’80s, when the fight against apartheid heated up, many colored people rejected the label, choosing to think of themselves as black. Students and professors at the University of the Western Cape, which the apartheid government had designated as a colored institution, used this self-identification to reject apartheid’s labeling. “One of the responses to the imposition of race categories is to reject racial categories,” said Suren Pillay, a professor at the university. But that moment was short-lived. In 1994, the colored vote in Western Cape largely went to the National Party, the architect of apartheid. And today, on the campus of the University of the Western Cape, a kind of voluntary segregation has re-emerged, with like sticking by like. “There is not a lot of mixing,” said Nokwanda Khanyile, 21, a business student from Durban. “The coloreds stick to themselves. The whites, too.” Like many young black people, Ms. Khanyile would not consider remaining in Cape Town to pursue a career in business. “Cape Town is racist,” she said. “Everybody knows that.” A version of this list appeared in print on March 23, 2012, on page A6 of the New York edition with the headline: In a Divided City, Many Blacks See Echoes Of White Superiority. Get Free E-mail Alerts on These Topics |
EroZA:Wandering? Im on the right forum. NAIJA at NAIRALAND. Create a forum, a website - something! My point is that you are not creative at all. You are here because you dont have the wherewithal to create your own. Your countrymen just sucked on the right afrikaneers balls and slapped your name on everything that he currently owns. Whites dont have to kill you physically, you are slaves without the chains. South Africans are idiots. Who allows racists a town? Get out of Nigeria! ENSLAVED AFRICANS = South Africa. Sad people! Im done with topic! |
atlwireles:Teach it! I agree. |
francleanflexy:I think you are right! My wife said what you said: it has not subsided!! |
EroZA:You are here because you dont have an original thought to create your own forum. What are you waiting on a European to create one so that you can tack your name on at the sign? We dont need you. The sooner we realize that you useless mumus are nothing but oreos..the better. We keep seeing an African face and we get confused. A note to us: everything in black skin isnt always kin. What are you? The rapisst presidents pr person? He doesnt need one, your entire population is dumb. South Africans are the biggest sell outs on the continent. |
atlwireles:These people are black oreos. They havent created independent policies, they just put black face on all oreo policies. Look at their ANC. They want to protect the whites. They arent smarter, they are just lap dogs. Who would allow this in their country? South Africa's whites-only town of Orania 6 October 2014 In the sparsely populated Karoo desert in the heart of South Africa's Northern Cape, apartheid lives on. I spent a few days in Orania, one of just a few black people to have set foot in the whites-only town since its establishment in 1991. Part of a BBC crew, including Zimbabwean journalist Stanley Kwenda, we were given permission to visit. And during that time, Stanley and I were the only black people in the town of 1,000 - an unusual experience in latter-day South Africa. Racial interaction is not welcome in the Afrikaner-only town, where only Afrikaans is spoken, because of fears about "diluting culture". "We do not fit in easily in the new South Africa. It [Orania] was an answer to not dominating others and not being dominated by others," says Carel Boschoff Jr, the community leader. Mr Boschoff inherited the town from his father Carel Boschoff Snr, an Afrikaner intellectual and son-in-law of apartheid architect, Hendrik Verwoerd. The town was founded by Mr Boschoff Snr as a registered company three years before white-minority rule ended in the rest of the country. Mr Verwoerd's grandson tells me that his people were faced with a tough question about their future when the black government was elected in 1994. "In terms of Afrikaners who had been standing very close to the state, when the policies such as black economic empowerment and affirmative action came into place, Afrikaners needed to seriously think about their future. It wouldn't make sense not to," he said. Black Economic Empowerment (BEE) was introduced to encourage more black participation in business. We were taken on a guided tour of the town's facilities by John Strydom, a retired doctor. The town's leaders insist that Orania is misunderstood. "We are not against black people. We are for ourselves," is the message they stress. However, black people cannot live here. Prospective residents are screened by the town council using a strict criterion, which includes first and foremost being an ethnic Afrikaner. It is not enough to simply speak Afrikaans, as is the case with many black and mixed-race South Africans. Eerie place As we sat down with Mr Boschoff for a cup of what the cafe described as "proper Boere [Afrikaner] tea… strong", I took in some of the surroundings. At the entrance of the gated community was a statue of Mr Verwoed, one of a few of the apartheid-era prime ministers, and the Orania flag - with similar colours to the old republic's orange, white and blue horizontal stripes - which hung proudly. The town was quiet; the sound of birds and rustling leaves interrupted by a few cars passing by. It is an eerie place for an outsider. The town boasts amenities such as shops, hair salons, a library, a post office, a hotel, a couple of schools - and churches, a lot of churches. But beneath the surface of this solitude lurks a fear that leads people to abandon high-paying jobs in the city for lowly jobs in this arid land. "The levels of crime and violent crimes in South Africa are definitely pushing powers that bring people to Orania. Many of them have been victims of crimes," says Mr Boschoff. South Africa is considered to be one of the most violent societies in the world, with one of the highest murder rates. Official statistics suggest that most crimes actually happen in poor communities between people known to each other, but this has not stopped the fear of crime in other communities. 'Little giant' As a result, Orania officials say the town has had an annual growth rate of nearly 10% since its inception. The Akrikaner community's totem is "the little giant", a man with rolled-up sleeves who features in the flag and the local currency, the Ora which is pegged to the South African rand. The people do their own work from gardening to plumbing, bricklaying and waste-collection - jobs usually done by black labourers in the rest of the country. "It takes some adjusting to. It is more difficult for some people because they are used to how things were done in South Africa, they are not used to manual labour," says Mr Strydom. The locals explain that one of the goals in Orania is to help create a generation of pure Afrikaners untouched by the "outside world". Bizarrely, the town's existence is protected by South Africa's constitution through a clause that ensures the right to self-determination - introduced to reassure those unhappy about the transition to democracy. With its old Cape-Dutch styled houses it is like stepping back in time, but some families fear this place could eventually be too small for their children. 'Respect' Theunie Kruger moved from Johannesburg about a month ago after he was offered a job in Orania. Mr Kruger says his two children are enjoying life in the countryside but he and his wife are preparing them for a world where there is not just one race or culture. "There is no tertiary institution here for example. They need to be equipped to handle the outside world," says Mr Kruger. "I teach them that there is no difference in skin colour. I teach them if they respect the people in Orania they must also respect the people outside Orania," his wife Annelize adds. The couple say they are still adjusting to Orania's "rules", which include getting permission from the town council before receiving visitors. "We understand it but it's a bit frustrating at times," Mr Kruger says. 'Defend with our lives' At the local bar, framed newspaper articles hang on the wall and Afrikaner memorabilia adorns the place. The owner, Quinton Diedrichs, is well-travelled but became disillusioned with South Africa and moved to Orania with his wife, a beauty therapist, about four years ago. "It's very safe here. We sleep with the doors unlocked. You can walk in the street at 3am without any fear. You don't have that where you live," he tells me. He blames FW de Klerk, the last Afrikaner to rule South Africa, for the plight of his people. Continue reading the main story “We can't get jobs. It's like we are being punished for the past” Drinker in an Orania bar "He gave away the country for nothing. We had the army," he says and stops abruptly, beginning to shake his head. Inside the dimly-lit pub, a game of rugby is on the TV, apart from a few odd glances, no-one seems to pay much attention to Stanley or me. A few more locals do come over to our table and conversation is polite and largely politically correct, much like in the rest of South Africa. The pernicious issue of jobs and pro-black policies rears its head. One local explains it as "reverse racism". "We can't get jobs. It's like we are being punished for the past," he says. They seem oblivious to the oppression of black South Africans during apartheid. For them it was a system that gave order. As the sun sets, the bronze busts of Afrikaner leaders spanning over many decades - Paul Kruger, JBM Herzog, DF Malan, JG Stridom and, of course, Mr Verwoerd - look protectively over the town. Held in disdain elsewhere, they are Orania's heroes - yet it is difficult to see how the community will be able to remain so completely isolated in such an inter-connected world. But as one pub drinker put it - being an Afrikaner in Orania is "something we will defend with our lives if we need to". http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29475977 |
omenka:Surely they will! |
I posted this in politics so we can reform our policies so that our African brothers and sisters could stay home, fix within. But I post here because I must ask this question: IS IT ME OR HAS ANTI AFRICAN SENTIMENT RISEN LATELY? HAS IT ALWAYS BEEN HERE AND NEVER STOPPED? See why I ask below please VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVyCfJ5cOOA ARTICLE BELOW: Video footage of Jewish Israelis with ISIS-style flags, chanting “niggers go home” at an anti-African rally in Tel Aviv on October 5 has surfaced. Hundreds of protesters could be heard in streets of Tel Aviv chanting anti-African racial slurs, following an Israeli High Court ruling to close down “Holot” detention facility within 90 days. Holot is essentially an internment camp holding about 2,300 of 60,000 African asylum seekers in Tel Aviv. Israelis are outraged by the court decision to close “Holot,” where African migrants from Eritrea and Sudan have been locked in facilities overnight and are forced to sign in several times per day. Jewish Israelis with ISIS-style flags, chanting “niggers go home” at an anti-African rally in Tel Aviv on October 5. In the ruling, Justice Fogelman explains that imprisonment inherently infringes on the right to human dignity and that, “Every person, by virtue of being a person, has a right to human dignity … and infiltrators are people. And if that needs explanation, let’s say it explicitly: infiltrators do not lose one ounce of their right to human dignity just because they reached the country in this way or another” Children led by parents and grandparents joined in chanting, “Sudanese to Sudan!” “ Eritreans to Sudan!” “Niggers go home!” Seen in the raw footage, Jewish men yell at an African passersby “Go home, go home! Sudanese to Sudan! African asylum-seekers met the protesters en route and offer them bouquets of roses, but their gestures were aggressively rebuffed and met with the responses, “Curse your name, you garbage.” “May you get AIDS, you LovePeddler, daughter of a LovePeddler.” “May you be Molested, you maniac!” “You’ll get Molested and get AIDS!” “I spit on you, you garbage!” “May you be Molested, you LovePeddler!” “Bleep you, NaughtyPerson! Piece of poo!” Chants even ring in English. “Go back to Africa! Go back to Africa!” “We hate you as much as we can NaughtyPerson!” “Go back to Africa! Go back to Africa!” “Anyone who enters Israel illegally has to be jailed. How can we deal with infiltration without that tool?” Sa’ar said. On Monday, Interior Minister Gideon Sa’ar called to limit the High Court’s ability to overturn laws. “Anyone who enters Israel illegally has to be jailed. How can we deal with infiltration without that tool?” Sa’ar said. Jerusalem Post reports, Interior Minister Gideon Sa’ar will attend a meeting to discuss the High Court decision and the migrant issue. Officials from the Interior Ministry’s Population, Immigration and Borders Authority, the Justice, Finance and Public Security ministries, and members of NGOs that support the African migrant community and residents of south Tel Aviv also plan to attend the meeting, reports the Jerusalem Post. |
Blakjewelry:We should all go home. Imagine if all the Africans and the other blacks went home to build? Me thinks their economy would fail! |
lilprinze:And this is what I agree with! |
Ambber:Liberians are quickly becoming walking bioterrorists - bad rep. They need to contain and each country should put up resources to help. Europe colonizers need to do much more. |
EroZA:You being on this forum is a prime example of your inability to create your own. Ingenuity is not South Africas fine point. She simply replicates what whites have always done, even at her majority indigenous African peril. Pull out. We dont need you. We helped you people during apartheid. You are nothing more than oreos in policy. Black on outside white on inside. Mandela himself was a farce. |