You can insist on believing what you like The truth is there are two sides to every story Another truth is Russia is taking territory every day
And taking casualties every day against a numerically challenged, unprepared and otherwise inferior opponent IN ITS OWN BACKYARD. What a superpower eh?
Let me indulge you here, I was referring to the first YouTube post, in any case, did you read the caption of the video? It was released by the Russian military and then reposted without verification.
Okay let's say it's real, If you have not been sleeping through the argument (I'd be surprised if you weren't), I did say 1/39 didn't I?
I am something, I will never get news from independent media houses like Forbes, I will rather get my information from CCTV, CGTV and Press TV what am I?
Stoplying: Yes, you are right, I don't claim to be the cia nor the fsb while you claim to be better than both combined. Knowledge gap or intellectual honesty gap. Let the next ignoramus decide.
Stoplying: Yes, you are right, I don't claim to be the cia nor the fsb while you claim to be better than both combined. Knowledge gap or intellectual honesty gap. Let the next ignoramus decide.
You don't have to be the CIA or FSB, a simple Google search would've sufficed.
Stoplying: Not only is himars still part of USA military inventory, it is still in active production and asked for by many NATO allies. The point is that your argument of himars being just an 80's weapon which Russia should be ashamed of not easily defeating is an extremely moronic point. But again you can't even follow your own comments. You write so much rubbish that you completely lose awareness of what you are talking about.
Wait a minute. Let's take a quick pause😂
My point remains that himars was developed in the 80s and the Russians have no answer. Now, there is also the GMARS and M270s which are superior to himars. Russia is battling with old tech when there are newer tech yet to be put into action.
I specifically said Himars was developed in the 80's I did not say production ended in the 80's.
To be ready to take back this country, we will need to first realize that we have to dismantle the entire system. Every last one of those snakes need to be fumigated out.
Stoplying: I guess you have your own personal spy agency which is much better than that of many countries since you managed to know how many himars the USA sent to Ukraine, an information which most NATO allies do not have.
I can't discuss too much with you, indeed you say a lot of inaccurate things which individually require primary school level correction. But the problem is that wasting my time and energy to educate you doesn't seem worth it.
😂😂😂Not to worry my bro, the difference between me and you is called a knowledge gap.
There is only one of us here that has been spilling facts and there is only one of us here that has been running and deflecting.
Seeing as you have time for some more humiliation, can you please respond to the other issues I raised?
Stoplying: You see, what I fail to see is where you write that the himars is no longer in USA military's inventory. The weapon is still in production and has not been replaced. Instead you purposely miss the point and talk to me about other systems which the USA has. Completely out of topic.
A smarter person would've checked and seen that the GMARS was developed to eventually replace himars and the M270s in use were specifically designed to carry double the number of himars rockets, in effect, an upgrade.
I didn't say the himars is no longer in use, you wanted me to state advancements on the tech and I obliged. If you want every single artillery/rocket system in the US Armoury, I can also oblige.
Stoplying: What is currently in the USA military armoury ? Is it still himars or has it been replaced with a more modern weapon ? You mistake military hardware with Nintendo video games which have new versions every year.
Also I think you are not following the rate at which Russia is dismantling the himars through jamming, interceptions and bombing the system on the ground.
This will be my only response to you because as I said, you are not intellectually relevant enough to discuss with.
😂😂😂 For an "intellectually relevant" dude, you are ridiculously "shy" at engaging in intellectual discuss.
Lest I become like you Sir, let me answer your questions point blank.
1. The U.S & NATO have the Global Mobile Artillery Rocket System, as NATO, they also have access to M270s that have double the rocket capacity of himars.
2. Ukraine and Russia have been on a cat and mouse game about the jamming of himars, with Ukraine finding a workaround every time Russia finds a new way to jam the himars radar. The destruction that ensues Everytime Russia masses troops or equipment out in the open should give you a fair idea as to what is jammed and what is not.
3. By "dismantling the himars through...bombing the system on the ground" you'd think that there has been a lot of hits, whereas, there has only been one confirmed hit on a himars system. Mind you, there are 39 himars launchers in Ukraine, so 1/39. By comparison, ATACMS have destroyed 5 of Russia's most advanced defence system, the s400.
All that said, I can share ISW reports and news articles from reputable channels to help your ignorance.
Finally, this would be quite the debate if you'd be kind enough to respond to my other questions.
Stoplying: You really have great difficulties understanding simple things ? Are you drunk or is this your natural way of being ? Read what I wrote earlier once again when you are sober.
In other words, you're incapable of responding to me on substance?
Stoplying: Clap for yourself. 1. You confuse my analysis of you with an insult. 2. Having a discussion with you is not much different from having a discussion with people who deny that logic applies to life events. 3. You said what I told you was an insult, and then you went on to diagnose me while producing a much more offensive speech than mine, doesn't that make you a bigger abuser and a person to whom your diagnosis applies more than it does to me ? 4. Well you are full of contradictions and you lack simple logic. That is why you say the things which you say. I wasn't trying to insult you, you are objectively too intellectually low to be a part of a fruitful and intellectual discussion.
Shades aside bro, the "Objectively too intellectually low" line has to be the funniest shit I've seen this year😂
Stoplying: Clap for yourself. 1. You confuse my analysis of you with an insult. 2. Having a discussion with you is not much different from having a discussion with people who deny that logic applies to life events. 3. You said what I told you was an insult, and then you went on to diagnose me while producing a much more offensive speech than mine, doesn't that make you a bigger abuser and a person to whom your diagnosis applies more than it does to me ? 4. Well you are full of contradictions and you lack simple logic. That is why you say the things which you say. I wasn't trying to insult you, you are objectively too intellectually low to be a part of a fruitful and intellectual discussion.
You know what? Let's make this easier. Sorry if you think I abused you.
Now that we have that out of the way, can you then respond to me on the substance of my reply?
1. Do you think that I was wrong to say any army can lose guerilla warfare? Or that the Russians as Soviets were themselves defeated in Afghanistan? Pls share
2. Do you think I was wrong to say that some of the military platforms in Ukraine such as Himars, Atacms etc were designed in the 80s and that Russia has no counter measure for them? Pls Share
3. Do you think I was wrong to say Russia's sole advantage over Ukraine is of quantity and not quality? Pls share
4. Do you think I was wrong to say Russia relies on China and North Korea for artillery? Pls Share why
5. Do you think that there are no restrictions on the use of weapons transferred to Ukraine and that the restrictions have prevented greater damage to Russian logistics? Pls share
ourunivibes: Shut up you are low on combat tactics. Even the military all over the world knows that artillery is the bedrock of wining a war. That's why Russia keeps pushing Ukraine back and back. You don't know what is artillery mate. Go watch youtube and find out. Bomebers and jammers. Once an advanced EV and air defense are in place those ones are a gone case.
Now what happend to Abram tank and Bradleys in Ukriane? The work of artillery and tank crews. Air defense checkmate the jets or bombars.
Artillery is a no joke man
Your knowledge on the subject is off of YouTube, I get. There's a chance that the boom boom boom of artillery has carried you away.
Artillery is a wonderful thing for war but we are talking of general military capabilities and you're limiting yourself to artillery.
Whatever happened to Submarine fleet? Naval assets? Bombers? Air superiority & ground attack jets? Missile technology? Air defence? Military organization? Logistics? Defence spending? Intelligence? Foreign bases for ease of ops?
Son, you need to understand the idea of military firepower and the firepower of some of these countries for us to have any meaningful conversation. Now you're just being a fan.
Stoplying: Hard to talk like men when you say stuff I have not said since I was more than 16 years old.
You're obviously not much older than 16 lol.
You'll learn as an adult that when you argue, you speak facts. Let the other person learn, going into insults is an indication of either a weak argument or a weak mind, both of which applies to you unfortunately.
Gajagojo: Well right now they are firing ARTILLERY at each other in Ukraine The entire West cannot match Russia in artillery Russia won't stand a chance? But the Viet Cong did? The Taliban did? You are theone that needs a reality check Tell us any significant military victory the USA has achieved in the last 50 years They can only pick on tiny countries Like Iraq
If they could not defeat the Taliban they cannot defeat Russia that has the capacity to hit them at home Simple truth is both countries know the truth and will avoid war Study history when such nations fight an entirely different country will benefit in this case
China!
How can artillery be your measurement of military firepower? You need to detach emotions, sit down and do some basic research to understand these things.
Anyone can lose a Guerilla warfare. Russia or the Soviets as they then were, lost to the same Taliban you've just mentioned (when Russia invaded Afghanistan). The Americans took over Afghanistan within 30 days but had issues holding down the resulting insurgency. That's normal.
Move over to Ukraine, we see a situation where Western missile systems from the 80s are penetrating Russian defences. Old defence systems such as the Patriot are taking down Russia's most advanced missiles and aircrafts.
Even the artillery that you mentioned, Russia has to rely on China and North Korea for supplies.
Russia's advantage in Ukraine is mostly about quantity, not quality. And this advantage can easily be removed if the west agrees to transfer better equipments to Ukraine and remove restrictions on their use within Russia.
FreeStuffsNG: Iran practically is next door to Russia but US has to travel several kilometres to reach Israel.
There's poor strategic thinking if the support of US to Israel is compared to Russia supporting Iran, it is obviously skewed against the Americans and Isreal.
This is why diplomacy is the best option and they should have seen this strategic disadvantage before murdering of Haniyeh.
Nah I disagree bro, a good student of history will know that these things are not as simple as proximity.
The six day war and the 1973 war are cases in point where Israel with the backing of the US took on and defeated a numerically superior Arab force armed and supplied by the Soviets.
Bear in mind that Russia is currently engaged in Ukraine and it's arms have been shown to be dodgy against the relatively outdated equipments supplied to Ukraine by the West.
A regional war would hurt Israel but I don't see how Iran survives it.
Like we don't know Israel by-pass Russia's supposed S400 defence systems to hit Syria at will. Or we don't know Ukraine makes mince meat of Russia's air defence systems.
Russia is only encouraging Iran to go at Israel to open a new front against the west and take pressure off them in Ukraine.
It would be too bad if Iran agrees to be cannon folder.
History of warfare against Israel does not bode well for neighbours.
Seun, this is graphic. That's another thing you need to work on apart from the cesspit of misogyny, tribalism and any other hate the forum is notorious for—cruelty to animals. Depicting dead animals like this one with blood all over it. At least without the blood! We all know we eat meats, but why display it like this?
Gory.
Go and sit down my friend, meat is meat and a man can hold his meat however he likes.