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Gabbriell:

Proverbs 12:15
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice.


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A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion (Proverbs 12:15).


I wanted to give you a reply based on your assertions/questions but i checked your posts and saw that all you do is go about arguing from thread to thread without actually listening to others peoples point of view.

You are wise in your own eyes, that makes you blind to the kingdom of God.
No body can ever talk you into something you don't want to associate with. Jesus practically lived among humans and still many did not believe him or what he had to say. So at the end of the day its your choice, be it to you according to your faith.

I am not here to argue and would ignore any argument coming from you. All my explanations are backed up by the bible scriptures which i included in the text...you should read them rather than arguing blindly and changing the topic to initiate further argument.

#peace

Even the devil will claim to speak the word with no blemishes, but believe him not, he only came to deceive, steal, kill & destroy.

johhbekeboh09:
Jesus Christ had existed in heaven as a spirit person.

. A story the pastor will tell you before offering? A spirit person before Abraham, Noah, or Moses? During the so called transfigurations myth, there are two person that were seen with God on the throne in Heaven, name them?

mtisTheQubit:
true we got new gods to worship today..even science is a god to many today...sorry to say so...

God is science, Science is God, Man on earth worships Mammon (Money).

johhbekeboh09:
God is talking to the 1 (Jesus Christ) he created first and whom he used to create angels and other beings

How can God be nailed on a cross & made a mockery of, isn’t that an insult to the almighty God of The Universe?

johhbekeboh09:
God is talking to the 1 (Jesus Christ) he created first and whom he used to create angels and other beings

He is not talking to no Jesus Christ that was born of a woman, that myth on creation had been in existence long before the Jews left for Canaan, & adopted it.

Thereishel:
What else do you want to learn? Bible is supreme and the word of God. Don read any other opinion here orchestrated by Satan don't fall into heresy please

What of the Koran, is it not also of the Almighty? Even the Scripture encourages us to study, to find yourself approved.

AustineJohn908:
I thought you said New testament is wrong why are you now referring to Paul who was in the new tastement?
Bros you just keep going back and forth, someone with intelligence on this matter would have schooled me what that passages I mention meant, not going about insulting the Bible or Europeans

Did I say what Saul, or Paul claimed in the New Testament is fact? I did not say what was said in the New Testament is wrong, I said it was mostly fabricated to meet the white man’s narrative.

The books of the Old Testament occurred in Africa & the Middle East, no mention of Europe, the New Testament Which is all about Oyibos, started in Mesopotamia (Turkey) & Europe.

chocolatelady:
God saying let us means Himself which is God the Father, God the son which is Jesus Christ and God the Holy Spirit altogether called the Trinity. Three persons in one God , no one is greater than the other. Trying to understand the word Trinity means that u just want to be God becos it is beyond human comprehension.

He was speaking with his army of Angels, which included Lucifer. The whole trinity transfiguration story is I hearsay, only the 2 brothers that went up the mount claimed they saw it, Politics.

AustineJohn908:
You're still saying same thing just like Africans, blaming Europeans for your woos.
So you are saying I should do away with all the words in the new testament even those spoken by Jesus just because it doesn't conform to what you or the Jewish think.
But you know what I remember, Jesus Christ said 'A prophet has no honour in his home' so I don't expect the Jews to believe in him.
The Jews do not even believe he is a Prophet (as Quran said) how den can they believe he is a son of God like Bible say.
You also forget the Europeans you like to say a the ones that changed the Bible Constitute a vase numbers of Israelites today in Israel who you call Jews.
Bros even a Bad clock shows the right time once or twice everyday so it means that "Bad New tastement" has one or two truth about Jesus Origin...

Remember Yeshua said I did not come to change the scripture, but to fulfill it, what was written by the Godless Europeans after the demise of Yeshua was mostly fabricated to fit their own narrative of subservience, domination of the mind, what they call Zombies, I am yet to see a black angel, who was Paul speaking to when he was seeing all those visions?

loko50:
Please share your experience with the Jewish kids.

The religion belongs to them, you cannot argue with the owner over his property, we had our own religion in Egypt (Africa) before the white man took over control of the world, if a Jew tells you Yeshua is a fraud, on what I hearsay evidence will I argue him on a script originally written in Hebrew?

OgaVoltron:
Humans love to complicate things, especially what they only have a faint notion of. You were created/modified by an advanced space faring civilization. That was a snippet of their conversation. It is repeated in many parts of the Bible e.g Tower of Babel. But no, you would rather read nonsense interpretations into it. Does that entity in the old testament not behaves & acts like a typical human being? Give humans a 3500years lifespan, increased intelligence & technology and you will also become Gods to some unfortunate creatures also.

White man has been to space, the moon, exploring Mars, Jupiter, to the outer boundaries beyond human comprehension, creation of the Internet i.e., it is called science, well as for the Blackman still believes in myths, fetishes & religion theories of 4000 years ago, Jehovah said let there be light and there was light, yet no electricity in Nigeria till tomorrow, & these race of black people want me to believe they are worshipping a God of light? Christ asked what business does light have with darkness? Hypocrites.

loko50:
Several interpretations of the Bible. It's a pity Christians will never agree on a common belief.

I once argued about religion with some Jewish kids during an SK blazing session, I realized the black man is still a slave mentally.

OyinO:
Brainwashed and miseducated elements. When God said, "Let " US" make man in our own image", WHO WAS THERE WHEN MAN HAD NOT BEEN CREATED? Who was there to listen and hear or witness the conversation?
This and other scripts were stolen from Egyptian BOOK OF THE DEAD and plagiarized without copyright references.

However, if we are to examine the saying critically, it means that Deity is talking to other Deities (Gods) like himself or herself who were in a gathering, and not some holy goat or Zeus (Jesus).
You can confirm from the variations of the human race. The Hindu Deity or Creator created the Dravidian people according His/Her own image/likeness. The African Deities created their own African people according to their own image and likeness. The same goes with all the Caucasoid, Asiatic, Arabic, Orient, Samoan, etc, people. If only one Deity (God) created people in his/her own image, why do the people/races have different images and anthropological or or physiological features? Why do they vary significantly in looks according to distinct Races?
Today, all other races or people look like the Deities they worship while Black Africans worship a Deity that looks like Caucasians. They have been brainwashed and made to deny their original Identy and Universal Deities of their creation. Shame!!!
Indian and Dravidian people worship Krishna and other Deities that look like them because they know their Creator created them in her/his image. The Orient people worship Buddha who looks like them. The Caucasian people worship Zeus or Jesus who look like them but Africans worship a caucasoid Jesus who don't look like them or their Ancestors because they are nothing but religious faithfools.

Respect, it will be hard for many to absorb your logic, only a person who has lived in the diaspora with the Oyibos will concur with you.

showafrica:
Some how you are right but the more you look into this matters the more you lose focus. The whole thing is vague and infinite. Just live your life in peace with everything and everybody and go.

Oboy is correct all religions basically have the same myth about the creation from Christianity to paganism, so for a certain sect to come & say a man created the universe is an insult to Mankind.

Mind you scientist laugh at us & say the universe came into existence after the Big Bang.

Yoighaman:
Have you read it? The NIV...

King James Verssion (British), NIV (American), White man version.

AustineJohn908:
You haven't answered me. I'm not asking you for the history of religion or the history of some people. I'm asking you to tell me what Hebrew 1:8 mean and John1:1 mean.
Ok if you can't tell me for John since it new testament, tell me about the Hebrew 1:8..

How many times must I tell you, the New Testament is a story created by the Godless Europeans, why don’t the Jews who claim the promise was for them believe the New Testament stories? Synagogue attendance is Saturday, it was changed to coincide with the worship of the Sun God (Rah), by the Europeans, is Jesus Christ Caucasian?

I remember Yeshua said I came to engraft the gentiles into the promise of the selfish Jews.

AustineJohn908:
Yes and same Bible tells us that In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. he was in the beginning with God and all things were made by him and through him. so maybe you can tell me what that passage means

And about Hebrew 1-8 .." and to the Son he said, your Throne o God will last forever and ever, a scepter of Justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
My question to you is, Who was talking in this passage.. Why will God almighty call Jesus Christ God and say your Throne will last forever and ever?

talk to me..if you can give me answers to all my questions den you have won someone into islam

Who told you the son of man is Yeshua they were referring to? Humanity, Mankind, is the son of man, not an individual, not every religion believes in your Jesus Christ story, to a lot of people the New Testament is no different from reading a super fiction religious script.

mtisTheQubit:
Lucciffer is the god of ths world...just to let you know... most of the earthly stuff ya all doing are not godly...

God is in Heaven, Money is God to man on earth, even the churches can’t deny it, they want 10% of that money, it is mandated law to them.

AustineJohn908:
Yes and same Bible tells us that In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. he was in the beginning with God and all things were made by him and through him. so maybe you can tell me what that passage means

And about Hebrew 1-8 .." and to the Son he said, your Throne o God will last forever and ever, a scepter of Justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
My question to you is, Who was talking in this passage.. Why will God almighty call Jesus Christ God and say your Throne will last forever and ever?

talk to me..if you can give me answers to all my questions den you have won someone into islam

You keep quoting the New Testament? These are all stories created by the Europeans, just like they have made you believe Yeashua was white, & born of a virgin.

AustineJohn908:
Yes and same Bible tells us that In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. he was in the beginning with God and all things were made by him and through him. so maybe you can tell me what that passage means

An ancient mythology used by most religions thousand of years before the so called Bible, the myth isn’t exclusive to only Christians, they actually copied the theory from other religions.

The Proto-Semitic people emerged from a generally accepted urheimat in the Arabian Peninsula and Levant. The Proto-Semitic people would migrate throughout the Near East into Mesopotamia, Egypt, Ethiopia and the eastern shore of the Mediterranean. 3300–1300 BCE.

mtisTheQubit:
Jesus was the first fruit of creation..the only creation made direct by God...others were created through him...

Maybe your own God, my own understanding it was Adam & Lilith.

jmichael259:
New testament? 2000 years after what? Go back to your history or archeology classes. Btw that's off topic.

7 Thousand years after, Old & New Testament have no nexus, Old Testament written by righteous men of the East, New Testament written Godless Europeans from the West.

The New Testament is the name given to the second and final portion of the Christian Bible. Jesus is its central figure.

The term "New Testament" came into use in the second century during a controversy among Christians over whether the Hebrew Bible should be included with the Christian writings as sacred scripture. The New Testament presupposes the inspiration of the Old Testament.

Some other works which were widely read by early churches were excluded from the New Testament and relegated to the collections known as the Apostolic Fathers (generally considered orthodox) and the New Testament Apocrypha (including both orthodox and heretical works).

Gabbriell:
No body can tell you more about yourselves. Muslims are ignorant of the bible same way Christians are ignorant of the quaran. So Islam practitioners cannot tell you more about your God.

[size=15pt] I presume [/size] God's statement (come lets make man in our own image) in the book of "Genesis" was directed to Christ and possibly the holy spirit which is a proof for the doctrine of trinity...

Why are you Presuming when the Bible is there at your disposal for learning ?. Lets see what 2 Timothy 3:16 says about the word of God (The Bible):

2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness,

[size=15pt] Now to the main question; Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? [/size]

I will keep explanation short because of my current schedule, but if you need further clarification you can quote me or send me PM

First, the bible did not say it was Jesus and the only spirit...that's just what you presume.

Lets quickly take a look at the scriptures this question is about in Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:26

Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

Genesis 1:26
Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”


NOW, this beginning the bible talks about is the beginning of Earth, Heaven and [/b] Earth Inhabitants (read Genesis 1:2-26) [/b]. So it is not the beginning of God and other spirit beings. The passage was more about how we (Humans) came to be in this world.

[size=15pt] So who are this "us" God was talking to ? [/size]

God was talking to other Spirit Beings who were also at beginning . Lets look at Jesus conversation with the Jews in John 8:44
John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Here Jesus confirmed that even the devil himself was at the beginning. This does not mean that he was part of the "us" the bible talked about but proved that there were spirit beings at the beginning.

Jesus himself was in the beginning with God. John 1:1-3 . There are more scriptures that gave hints to this..you can look at the bible book of ISIAH which talk about the Messiah (Jesus) even before he was born.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TIME FOR NOW. YOUR QUESTIONS REGARDING THE BIBLE ARE ALWAYS WELCOME

All I hearsay, so Jesus Christ came before Papa Abraham? Where was Jesus mentioned in Isaiah? It is an assumption, they might as well have been talking of Elijah?

AustineJohn908:
I still don't get your argument. so what you're saying is God created the word through Jesus Christ ? because I think that is same thing majority here are saying.

Statements like this is what makes muslims claim Christians don’t understand what they are practicing, just following the Godless European version of a so called divinity that cannot be proven. Yeshua a man born of a woman created the universe that was in existence millions of years before him, & millions of years after? The Bible tells us that God is not a Man.

SeriouslySense:
when it is said that Jesus is the first born of creation, it is used to show his preeminence or that he is over all creation.

All these New Testament stories written by Godless Romans?

Jiokejohn:
That same Hebrew chapter 1 clearly stated that Almighty GOD called none but Jesus Christ 'GOD'. My brother, on what basis should we argue further? Remember, it was written in quotes to buttress the fact that Almighty GOD is speaking.
We are not the author. We met the holy book and believe. So it is an undermine to our integrity to argue the obvious written and established facts.
Meanwhile, I acknowledge your contributions because it really shaped our learning and knowledge.

Which facts, Book written by Oyibos? Study to find yourself approved.

jmichael259:
Proverbs 8:30..
But do well to read down from previous lines

All these New Testament stories that were written at least 2 thousand years after the supposed event? Heavy manipulation occurred, they should produce the original parts of the Bible written in Hebrew for us to Judge, Let the Pope & Vatican not tell us anything.

Yoighaman:
I just read the whole of Hebrews 1 (NIV) and I think this thread should be closed.

Why? The Bible can be interpreted in many versions by whoever is purporting to comprehend, your assertion doesn’t make it fact.

enilove:
God was actually speaking to Jesus Christ.

Rubbish European version, who told them? Then why don’t the Jews believe in Yeshua if he was there at the genesis?

4ckyou:
I exchanged with 505# two days ago

Wow, I have Benjamin Franklins for sale.

duduade:
What does the Labour know

Ordinary to fight for the Nigerian masses na to go collect brown envelope

Tufiakwa

The sooner you start working to try & secure your own brown envelope the better for you. Heaven helps those who help themselves, go and fight for your rights, nobody will fight for your rights for you.

Paxxcarl:
backing mediocrity

Bench warmer profess a solution, armchair economist?