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I will never defend GEJ on this one

If he fails to look into this matter and Ebola erupts because of early school resumption, GEJ might lose this election


Jonathan should be careful of his education and health ministers who are unwise concerning this decision

Their recklessness might cost GEJ his second term. Even God do not support foolish decisions and can allow a man pay dearly for it.

May I ask the health minister

What chemical can we use to flush our toilets since virus can't be killed by soaps , alcohol or methylated spirit.

We should not forget that a toilet can be used by more than 3 kids in a day

Should we ban assembly times to prevent touching each other

Where can we acquire
1) Ebola garment
2) Temperature sensing device

Should pupils and students alway put on face mask to prevent the spilling of nose waste on those around them when they accidentally sneezed


What are the preventive measure

iwonbaoko: Why talk like an ignorant market woman if you don't know keep quiet rather than make a fool of yourself. This loan was negotiated and agreed in 2010. Is it that easy to borrow 160 billion from the World Bank? Loans that are given out at close to 0% interest. Find out before you start making noise. The loan was agreed before they ever broke ground on the rail project which has been under construction for years. It was Iweala who was MD when the World Bank approved the loan. The loan was agreed in tranches. The World Bank was ready to release the next tranche so that means they were happy.The Fg was playing politics that is all

Fine Okonjo approved it

What did he do with itttttttt

Simple question

He should answer

Rawani: Where in the south? Do you know where the INEC headquarters is located? Do you realize Abuja was made the FCT because of these kind of problems? For the 3rd time today i ask, do you realize INEC is by definition, an independent body?



That feature should already be incorporated in the architecture of the data collection software. How exactly did you also determine the ethnicity of the officers?



Really, what is the source of your allegation? That sounds like beer parlour banter, please have concrete evidence when next you want to throw around weighty allegations with enough venom to ignite fresh hostilities.

I appreciate your argument, but unless the issues i highlighted are resolved, it is just not feasible.

My friend I have worked with INEC before

My friends worked in INEC

This info was verified by me when my friend brought the registration sheets to convinced me

If you doubt me go to Jos INEC and ask for the pre and post registration sheets of these Shendam , Wase , Jos North and the Muslim woman in charge

Unknown to her, some of my friends knew but I told them to keep it secret to avoid blood bath.

bushdoc9919: I am not surprised too.....most governors do not want FOI.



1.Because a large amount of the health budget is spent on keeping hospital fees low....not on making them really world class. A world class hospital would have a budget up to $800million. And lagos has an IGR of N500million. Lagos is not spending enough money on hospitals....

2.As for high taxes.....it goes on things like your expanding public transport system (which even Abuja does not have.)




You really think education is cheap? Or a good degree can be gotten on just N25000? And the state education budget is less than $10million....meanwhile universities abroad have budgets of $400-800million.

And Fashola's reducing the fees is another reason why that debt will shoot up....because LASU needs a lot more than the money it is getting.

And the fees shot up because the Federal Govt broke its promise to ASUU of N3 trillion over 4 years made in 2009. Now it is 1 trillion over 5 years....at 200billion yearly.....and it is to be split among 70 universities. Is that enough?



I agree....And I also insist that Fashola,or his sucessor....PDP or APC should develop Lagos into an industrial powerhouse SO that the tax income from all those new industries would be enough to raise the budget so that Laogos can stop borrowing money.

The point is....Lagos,and most states do not have enough money because they refuse to work for it. Time we Nigerians went to work for our money. Industries....as seen in South Korea and Japan.....IS THE WAY.

Guy you don't know what you are saying

HEALTH


How did you arrive at $800 million

I stand to be corrected

#100 billion can be used to build a world class hospital in Nigeria

If Fashola had wanted to build such, he would have done so under 8yrs because Lagos IGR is large enough to achieve it.


EDUCATION

I am a graduate of engineering-technology

Excluding applied, industrial and medical science you do not need so much money to train undergraduates of Engineering-Technology, Social Sciences, Financial related courses etc because real and computer simulated videos can reduce the use of their real life learning materials thereby reducing cost and perfecting their skills before they actually make use of the real life learning materials

So stop proposing this theory of high cost I have corrected you severally before

The problem with some of you guys from the West is that you guys fail to adopt the principle of winning strategy which says " There are multiple paths to success . Find out the certainty and cost of each path before choosing a path "

Pls stop proposing the theory of high cost if you have not search out for other paths, their certainty and cost.

Goddex: [size=13pt]The last time Okonjo-Iweala withheld a trenche of further loans and cautioned this man about the high debt profile they are piling up for future generations of Lagosians he went to National Assembly, Presidency and the media to cry out until Jonathan intervened to direct the release of the money atleast for peace to reign. [/size]

Gbam

We can now see the result

Unfortunately most yorubas on NL who wasted Awo's free education will defend this madness never asking why Tinubu was flown oversea for treatment after spending such amount on development

Rawani: Why should I be concerned with 2011 when we are discussing 2015? You have made no point sir & you are derailing the thread.

You have never worked with INEC that is why you rant like a small boy

2015 is the continuation of 2011 with modifications just as Jega is trying to do

Rawani: Can you suggest an alternative formula for PU allocation which will avoid over-crowding and the resultant dis-enfranchisement of registered voters? I am in need of a superior argument because I also agree that the present system gives the south an unfortunate handicap.

First and foremost

Let the computer data for Northern Nigeria be sent South and vice versa.

Secondly

Let the software that deletes multiple registration be done to verify if Northern INEC officers applied the software

Thirdly

After the first two steps, he will be able to make a better decision


Let me reveal this to you

The computer data of Jos North , Shendam and Wase were never screen using that software because the Muslim woman in charge did not do it to give the Hausa Fulanis an advantage


If you doubt me, go find out yourself.

This secret is unknown to plateau people.

We kept it secret to avoid blood shed.

Rawani: INEC - Independent National Electoral Commission

Under OBJ it was dependent on OBJ

True or False

Can everyone see why Fashola opposed FOI bill

Let him itemize what he spent the money on


Beside

Why was Tinubu flown oversea for treatment after spending such money on development that neither improved the Lagos State hospital or created ventures whose profits or dividends swell the state treasury helping to drive down the
1)high multiple taxation seen in Lagos

2) 250 000 naira school fees paid by LASU students for years until last month when it was returned to 25000 because of election


Fashola give us account of how that money was spent item by item and stop babbling

Rawani: Wrong. From my comment you can conclude that the PDP failed in their plan to use terror for electoral advantage. I don't celebrate mediocrity so I cannot share your excitement that GJ 'gave free-hand' to INEC, when it's supposed to be Independent in the first place.

Funny you


You forgot how OBJ made INEC dependent on him

Now applaud Jona for giving Jega free hand


As for this wrong decision, it will be reviewed

Yujin: JEGA's explanation is unconvincing. How can he expect us to believe that areas where there are multiple cases of civil unrest with its attendant loss of lives and displacement of people will still have more people to vote? With about ten thousand people killed and tens of thousands relocating from the north down to the south, he still wants us to believe that this day-light robbery is justified. I'm highly ashamed of him as it appears that he is taking us for fools.
Like they did to Festus Odumegwu, so we do 'let him resign'. His action is totally unacceptable. Imagine Imo state the sixth most populous state in southern Nigeria having the least increment in polling units! This reeks of bias.

This is why I believe Nigeria will collapse in 2015

We all know that 2015 will see massive movement of Southerners to the South in order to avoid Northern madness. Yet he decided to allocate more polling units to the North who are already experiencing depopulation and will continue to experience it as 2015 approaches

Well only God knows what he has in mind

I hope this action won't see ethnic cleansing occurring in the North in an effort to further drive away Southerners and Northern Christians from NW leading to the repeat of the happenings taking place in the NE

Rawani: Instead of blowing hot air, aggrieved parties should suggest a better formula for distribution of PU's that will avoid the problems of over-crowding, without the usual emotion-laden verbal diatribes. It seems some peoples hope of BH decimating the North's population has horribly disappointed them. Thank God our soldiers are reclaiming lost territory and sending the bloody jihadists to their brothel in the sky.

Can you now applaud GEJ for giving Jega free hand

From your comment can we conclude that Jona is not behind the decimation of Northern Nigeria through BH

lacasa: Wen elections r manipulated, the disenfranchised react in an extreme manner sometimes. It's a reality!.

Wen Abiola's election was cancelled there were riots in lagos where our house n our family were targeted n almost killed by rioters in lagos simply cos we were northerners then. Only God saved us that period.

But that doesn't mean I should hold all the yorubas n say they are bad people or that they r killers.

Violence for whatever reason should be condemned and it is wrong, but it's an unintended consequence of elections esp in the third world.

And it has nothing to do with 'exposing boko haram' sponsors in govt. They r his siblings after all.


2015 will come n' go, but making empty threats is not the way to go sha.

This will only occur if your elites respect themselves

But if you guys go berserk through a coup or BH escalation , mark my words , you guys will face angry Southerners and Middle Beltans urging GEJ to use brute force.

lacasa: El - rufai has never been part of gej's govt and left pdp b4 gej came in.


2ndly, what then stops him as C in C to arrest th northern muslims and end the bombing n killings.

Is he waiting for a sign from the heavens

Ordinary election he won, you guys went on rampage how much more if he arrests you guys semi gods

GEJ wants to avoid blood shed otherwise , they would be in prison.

2015 Will be the last straw that breaks the camel's back

lacasa: Correction; a whistleblower accused members of this govt of sponsoring BH and he's australian.

Mr President himself has said to the world that BH sponsors are in his government and that he knows them.

Yes, Boko - Haram (the yusuf bokoharam preceded this government) but Yar'adua dismembered them.

The one we are facing is the Sponsored Political BH that is proving too much to handle by the almighty nigerian army.

And whether Arewa will progress or not is an issue for wen Niggeria eventually breaks. If indeed it does

Who do you think GEJ is referring to


Some Northern Muslims within his govt and some of them are now strong APC members. eg Elrufai was a former PDP who is now a strong APC member

jmoore:

Yes,Nigeria will continue to exist after 2015.
Nigeria will continue to exist at least for the next 1,000 years.

Break up? No way!! A divided Nigeria will be a disaster. More than 1,000 countries will be formed, all at war with each other.
Is the Nigerian military capable of defeating Boko Haram? Yes, Bokoharam shall be crushed!!!


One Nigeria!!!

Guy

My advice to you

Go buy farm tools to revive cocoa or groundnut

Oil money will stop flowing soon.

OkijaAmaka: To be sincere the way am seeing Nigeria the future is bleak, am not happy sounding like this but am a realest first.

Islamic xpansionism is spreading like wildfire and its becoming more and more popular.
Boko haram in Nigeria have their spondors in both APC and PDP because religion is the common affiliation and domination the common goal.

Boko Haram is beyond Goodluck Jonathan, its a religious war and a prophecy comming into fufilment.

Every moslem is boko haram sympathizer despite his or her ethnic background.

We Christians in South are too relax and carefree as nothing is happening, we are just chasing papers without thinking whether the place we enjoy our hustle will still be available for us.

The best thing is for Nigeria to go their seperate ways and avoid shedding innocent bloods, let the north have and rule over themselves the way they like, let the East manage their affairs, let the West handle their businesses.

Onr thing i know next year is that, its either power return to North and we will have peace there but militanats will return to the creeks to renew their attack on oil facilities thereby causing untold hardship to Nigeria economy

or

GEJ won next year election and Boko Haram will get out of hand,(BH may not be a tool to fustrate Jonathan but i dont think Northerners can have the patience to wait for another 4years to take a shot)

Nigeria is sitting on keg of gunpowder, Jonathan cant handle Nigeria in 2015

Most probable thing that will occur.

lacasa: BH will most probably be gone wen ds govt and its sponsors in the govt go, so that issue is done.

As I said, dnt take panadol for anoda man's headache.


Do yours, let us do ours.

Your comment is one reason why I strongly believe Arewa will end up as a failed state

You are accusing this govt of sponsoring a group that was in existence before her.

Guy

You disappointed me and further convinced me that the Arewa will be a failed state

lacasa: Dnt worry about the Muslim North, we are already progressing.

Worry about your own. That shld be your point of concern

Am never worried about Muslim Northern Nigeria but you guys insistence to rule Nigeria

As for Arewa , I know it will tow the path of N.Korea Somalia Afghanistan as can be seen in BH blind desire for a retrogressive system of government

lacasa: Oga, y are u going around in circles.


It's like asking me what was Ihejirika's salary at the ennd of the month? Isn't Ihejirika the one to ask that question?.

But, yet, u know he has a salary at the end of the month.


That is what I am saying here. So, pls dnt ask me for figures.


2ndly, COAS is in charge of Army, CO air staff is in charge of Airforce and CONS in charge of navy.


The CDS is the middle man btw service chiefs and the President with the National assembly.


So, COAS handles his allocation autonomously

OK

Since you insist that your view is right

May God breakup Nigeria so that we can see how far Muslim North can progress

Make it official

lacasa: Funding and Issuing of Weaponry and Logistics plus welfare is done from Headquarters Oga.


They mutinied cos they lacked weapons and logistics and so BH were killing the like flies

You see you didn't follow the gist

They mutiny because they were sabotage by Northern Muslim officers


Google it to verify it

lacasa: Yes, its a fact.

Your question is irrational in the sense that, you r saying figures of Ihejirika's spending should be given to you.


So, in turn, is it not Ihejirika and GEJ that have those figures.

But what any informed stakeholder knows is that the supply chain since BH was confronted undder goodluck became president is co-ordinated by the office of Chief of Army Staff.

Take it anywhere or better still do a little investigation and fact finding and prove me wrong.

If it is a fact, provide proof

Remember Ihejirika had a boss who was the CDS chief of defence staff.

Don't forget he had a greater say over Ihejirika

lacasa: No, the sabotage from the Defence Headquarterss and the COAS led to it.


A northerner wasn't heading the army, an igbo guy was, and a niger-deltan is now

COAS is different from GOC
COAS is Igbo but GOCs Northern Muslims




The boys mutiny because Northern officers sabotaged them leading to the death of their colleagues

lacasa: Ihejirika knows.


Ask him, he is your brother afterall

You said most of the 4trillion was spent on the army

I asked you to provide proof

The next you did you asked me to ask Ihejirika

Guy talk with fact

If you claim most of the fund was spent on the army provide proof.

lacasa: Do u actually think a nation's army is even defeatable by the band of killers of then Biafra. Forget it man.

With the army we had and our traing it was impossible.


Why do u think there was mutiny in 7th division?

There was lack of funding and weapons, even the soldiers said it won't be hard to defeat bH but only if they wld be given the funds and weapons they ask for.


But, as we knew corruption by the Oga(s) I.e CoAS and co will always hamper it

They mutiny because the sabotage by Northern officers in the army led to the death of their colleagues

lacasa: If u don't know, then let me enlighten you, military spending since GEJ took over tripled in 2010 to about 970 billion, then about 1.1 trillion the following year after he became substantial C in C.

Now majority of military spending is domiciled in the office of the COAS I.e (Ihejirika at that time).

Cos, the Army has the largest defence personnel of ALL military and para - military outfits.

And due to the perculiarities of the Insurgency, the Army leads on the front and uses the most equipment, logistics, welfare, weapons, recon etc


And Ihejirika had control of a larger percentage of the funds, even more than NSA and CODS.


So, forget oil theft, Yar'adua made it less lucrative with the Amnesty deal. And if u remember Tompolo and Asari are the Lords there

OK

Tell me

How much of the 4trillion was spent on the army since you claimed most went to the army

lacasa: My God! Are you this dull?.


Have you ever seen a nation fight a war on its own.


Why did America look for allies wen it invaded Iraq.

Why did Mali rally france wen it fought the Tuaregs.

Why was there a coalition wof nationsen the west fought the Hitler's Germans, aided by Italians and Japaneses in World War II

It is not as simple as u reason Oga. Ok?.



Besides, ask any military establishment, a division is only as good as its commander.


Why do u think the ancient empires are what they were, eg Mongol empire, Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar and the Roman empire etc


It's a historical fact that without great commanders, armies are ineffective.

North has and will always boast Great Military Commanders.

That's the Fact!

Thanks for acknowledging that without your allies you won't have won

Now acknowledge the military skills of your allies and give half of your glory to them


Do you know that the GOCs of 7th division are Northern Muslims . Why haven't they be able to stop BH.

lacasa: If he has been aiding and sponsorinng Terrorism in this country then he has declared WAR long time ago. But as it happened with Azazi, Jonathan is shielding him from investigation.


2ndly, to your blatant ignorant question -

Ihejirika, to make money and boko Haram was a cash - cow at the time, (which it was as over 4trillion naira was budgeted by Jona from 2010 to combat BokoHaram) and yet nothing tangible in terms of progress was made.



So reason and draw a logical summation

How much of that 4 trillion was spent on recurrent expenditure and how much was spent on weapons.

Don't forget that money was spent on all security agencies including paramilitary police SSS etc

I repeat

Oil theft will generate more cash for him than BH

lacasa: Correction, not the best, but possess one of the Best to rule for now.

BUHARI.


Our track recoed in the military is unquestioned I.e from Gowon to Shuwa to Danjuma to MaiMalari to Murtala etc etc

FYI: let the country break up, we the average everyday folks cld care less.

It's the selfish elites who actually deceive u into thinking otherwise.

Yet it took the support of Britain Soviet, Arab league and 500 000 dead soldiers on Nigerian side to win the civil war

Ask the military to tell the world how many soldiers were lost in Sierra Leone and Liberia under the control of Northern officers

Guy

2015 will be to your tent oh ISREAL

From 2015 upwards , we shall know those regions that will end up like failed nations like N.Korea Somalia Afghanistan etc

lacasa: That's your problem.

U see u r so narrow minded I'm nodding in shock.


Ok, going by your reasoning, then OSAMA BIN LADEN should have never been investigated by the FBI or CIA, because, he also worked with the same american agencies against the Soviet Union.


Abi??.

Osama declared an open war against US

Have Ihejirika declared any war against Nigeria.?

Ask yourself one smart question

If Ihejirika wanted to make money, why didnt he work with oil thieves.

Collynzo16: The summary of this article is that Northerners are the only ones good enough to rule this country politically and militarily, others aren't good enough.
They should carve out their own country and rule themselves to paradise then.
Why not?

Don't mind the author

These were the same people accusing Ihejirika( Ojukwu 2) of committing genocide when he pushed BH to Sambisa.

Now they turn around to accusing him of sponsoring BH

In short

Let the army leave them to BH caliphate so they can see who their freedom fighters are