CyberG:

Oga. . .I don`t think there`s any problem in this complaint except you just want to rubbish the name of the government. But if this is really an issue, you would just have to fight the governor yourself because the fiercest defenders of most ordinary sections of the Nigerian society are now being blamed from almost every corner. Fela, Soyinka, Falana, SR, etc and their folks and stance to defend the not so strong are being blamed for everything. They have also led the recent efforts to inform the people about issues and take a firm stance against the government but they have been vilified at every turn.

Even Dokubo whom SR and many good Nigerians fought for in the press, mounting pressure on the government then are the evil ones. Turai sat on the head of Jonzer-thon but Bakare, SNG and their folks liberated him, today they are the enemy - abused, scorned and blamed for every problem in the country.  I think you guys too should fight your leaders for your rights a bit and take pressure of these people before you kill all of them. Fela is dead, Soyinka is getting older, you see now? The SW lets other Nigerians enjoy their grace in Lagos and the most forward looking cities in Nigeria but after abuse you accuse them of stealing oil when they also sit on oil in Ondo, Lagos and resources all other parts of Nigeria can only dream of including their lands. Please go and have a one on one with the government as those people are still fighting for Nigerians in another battle for which the army has now been deployed.

@CyberG,
I don't know where you are posting from or your relationship with Enugu state government. If you are not among the government beneficiary, i will appreciate if you prove any of the issues pointed to be false. Is there any other state in Nigeria that any of the labor leaders was arrested and in detention because of the strike except in Enugu.? It is only in Enugu state that protest was not allowed WHY?

no this can't be done because in nl forum any thing goes. religious section is the most abused as there is no rule and regulation.

It is a high time Civil society and other well meaning Nigeria take note of what is happening in Enugu state. Civil servants in Enugu state is suffering in the hand of the governor. It is only in Enugu state that the governor refuse to negotiate with labour over minimum  wage, he has decided to pay what he likes to civil servants whether they accept it or not. For now he added only #8000(EIGHT THOUSAND NAIRA) upon the existing salary of civil servants making a director in Enugu state to be earning half of what their counterpart in other state is earning.

Secondly, civil servant went on strike in September last year, despite that the strike is legal, he refused to pay them salary for that period saying that nobody will do anything about it.

It necessary to note that last year he dismissed  labour activists and had kept them in prison, and since then civil liberty organization kept quiet, even some labour leaders were arrested with respect to the current strike.

It is only in Enugu state that civil servants were refused rally and protests as allowed in other states. For fear, some civil servants do go to write their names in the office during this period of strike, and if care is not taking only those people he will pay salary.

Enugu state is under siege and need intervention because the governor is doing as if there is no law. If nothing is done, soon there could be big problem in the state.

Logic Mind:

For years I have been waiting for the wrath of god. please send it my way.

My dear I don’t need to send the wrath of GOD your way- WHY? Because I think you have a very big problem already. What you are doing can be compared to the adage in my place that talks about nza the bird (nza is a very tiny bird) one day after it ate to belly full it challenged its god to a dual contest.
What you and some people are doing are like what the two sons of Eli the priest was doing in 1Samuel, 1Samaul 2:12 “Now the sons of Eli were sons of Belial; they knew not the LORD.”
1Samaul 2:17” Wherefore the sin of the young men was very great before the LORD: for men abhorred the offering of the LORD.”
1Samual 2:22 Now Eli was very old, and heard all that his sons did unto all Israel; and how they lay with the women that assembled at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
1Samuel 2:23 And he said unto them, Why do ye such things? for I hear of your evil dealings by all this people.
1Samuel 2:24 Nay, my sons; for it is no good report that I hear: ye make the LORD'S people to transgress.
1Samuel 2:25 If one man sin against another, the judge shall judge him: but if a man sin against the LORD, who shall intreat for him? Notwithstanding they hearkened not unto the voice of their father, because the LORD would slay them.

Believe you me, if you don’t repent, GOD is about to do a thing to you that every ears that hear it will tingle. Remember Proverbs 29:1 “He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.” And 2Chr 36:16 But they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets, until the wrath of the LORD arose against his people, till there was no remedy.

Because GOD is ever merciful therefore you still has mouth to talk rubbish.

The Bible recorded in the books of Judges 21:25 “In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes” That is exactly what happens with most of us. We do things that are right in our own eyes. We fail to ask our self what if that thing we thought right in our eyes was wrong after all.

As we enter New Year 2012, be conscious of what you do and say knowing that what you thought right might end up being wrong. Before you join to contribute in any thread, ask yourself what if that thing right was wrong. What if that issue that you thought to be true were false in the final analysis? Try to investigate and confirm certain issue before you jump into conclusion knowing fully well that the issue might be wrong or right. Before you jump into condemning any minister of GOD over an issue that seems wrong to you, ask yourself what if he is right and you are wrong? 
Remember that the ALMIGHTY GOD is the right judge who will repay everyone according to his or her deed. And surely we will receive the reward of our action whether good or bad.

The Bible recorded in Mathew 11:12 “And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.” We are living in an era when wicked spiritual forces are on the increase, when evil forces are on the increase. Even in this forum, evil forces are on the increase and their targets are the souls of men and women,men and women who are weak in faith, those yet to know their right from left. 2Cor 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds The devil knew that if he can get you in the realm of imagination he has gotten you and will beat you hands down.

In this forum the devil is using his agents to carry out his mission, the devil knew that in this kingdom you cannot have financial breakthrough if you are not paying your tithe that is why he is using all available arsenal to fight, to write against tithe. You should ask yourself why many members are ready to fight over any mention of tithe payment in any thread.

Secondly, the bible recorded in 2 chronicles 20: 20b “Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.”
And in Hosea 12:13 “And by a prophet the LORD brought Israel out of Egypt, and by a prophet was he preserved.” The devil knew that your life could have a turn around if you could have an encounter with a prophet of GOD that is why all his arsenals to write against ministers of GOD. You should ask yourself why the greatest attacks on ministers of GOD are not from members who are atheists, or Muslims or Satanists but from people who claim they are Christians. WATCH IT! The devil knew that if an atheist, a Muslim a Satanist writes against tithe or against MOG, you would not believe their saying that is WHY HE IS USING PEOPLE WHO CLAIM THAT THEY ARE BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS. WATCH IT.
You should ask yourself why the attacks on Bishop Oyedepo, Pastor Chris, Pastor Ashimolowo or Pastor Olokoya of MFM more fierce than other Ministers of GOD? This could point to the fact that these could be MOG that GOD has packaged to use to bring turn around to you by your encounter with any of them. The devil knew that if he could get you to despise them, their teachings will not profit you. You should know that the devil is very subtle and could use even your closest friends to get at you. Know that the weapons of our warfare are not carnal. 2Cor 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
2Cor 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
2Cor 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
2Cor 10:6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.
Remember that we are not fighting against flesh and blood. Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
In 2012, you should rise up and engage the violence of faith if you are to survive the attacks of the devil and all his deceits. It takes violence of faith for the violent takes it by force.

In this life many are going round the circle, very busy yet going no where. Many at of frustration blame others for their failure; others blame ministers of GOD as if they are their problem. They attack and write all sort of rubbish against ministers of GOD as if ministers of GOD are the cause of their woes. The year 2011 had come and gone and you should ask yourself how you had fared? Where are you in 2011 compared to where you are in 2011? Had you made much progress or are you not operating in circle? You can’t be doing the same thing yet expect to get different result.
Where you are today is determined by your actions yesterday and where you will be tomorrow is determined by your actins today. Whether you accept it or not it is the truth. You need to take stock of your life, where you were yesterday, where you are today so as to organize yourself where you are going tomorrow. Others have breaking through, while others will breakthrough in 2012, what of you? Don’t allow 2012 to meet you the way 2011 met you unprepared.
To breakthrough in life, there are certain things you need to do, and there are certain things you need to stop doing. For you to move forward there are certain people that you need their contact while there are certain you need to break your contact with.
The eyes of Isaiah the prophet of GOD was not open to vision not until Uzziah died. Isaiah 6:1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.
Naaman would had died of leprosy if not his encounter with the prophet of GOD Elisha who gave him simple instruction, go and wash in river Jordan. 2Kgs 5:10-16 And Elisha sent a messenger unto him, saying, Go and wash in Jordan seven times, and thy flesh shall come again to thee, and thou shalt be clean.
But Naaman was wroth, and went away, and said, Behold, I thought, He will surely come out to me, and stand, and call on the name of the LORD his God, and strike his hand over the place, and recover the leper.
Are not Abana and Pharpar, rivers of Damascus, better than all the waters of Israel? may I not wash in them, and be clean? So he turned and went away in a rage.
And his servants came near, and spake unto him, and said, My father, if the prophet had bid thee do some great thing, wouldest thou not have done it? how much rather then, when he saith to thee, Wash, and be clean?
Then went he down, and dipped himself seven times in Jordan, according to the saying of the man of God: and his flesh came again like unto the flesh of a little child, and he was clean.
And he returned to the man of God, he and all his company, and came, and stood before him: and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, but in Israel: now therefore, I pray thee, take a blessing of thy servant.
But he said, As the LORD liveth, before whom I stand, I will receive none. And he urged him to take it; but he refused.

The woman of zarephath and her son would have died of starvation if not her encounter with Elijah 1Kings 17:8-16 And the word of the LORD came unto him, saying,
Arise, get thee to Zarephath, which belongeth to Zidon, and dwell there: behold, I have commanded a widow woman there to sustain thee.
So he arose and went to Zarephath. And when he came to the gate of the city, behold, the widow woman was there gathering of sticks: and he called to her, and said, Fetch me, I pray thee, a little water in a vessel, that I may drink.
And as she was going to fetch it, he called to her, and said, Bring me, I pray thee, a morsel of bread in thine hand.
And she said, As the LORD thy God liveth, I have not a cake, but an handful of meal in a barrel, and a little oil in a cruse: and, behold, I am gathering two sticks, that I may go in and dress it for me and my son, that we may eat it, and die.
And Elijah said unto her, Fear not; go and do as thou hast said: but make me thereof a little cake first, and bring it unto me, and after make for thee and for thy son.
For thus saith the LORD God of Israel, The barrel of meal shall not waste, neither shall the cruse of oil fail, until the day that the LORD sendeth rain upon the earth.
And she went and did according to the saying of Elijah: and she, and he, and her house, did eat many days.
And the barrel of meal wasted not, neither did the cruse of oil fail, according to the word of the LORD, which he spake by Elijah.

Also the shunemite woman would have died barren if not her encounter with Elisha. 2Kings 4:16 And he said, About this season, according to the time of life, thou shalt embrace a son. And she said, Nay, my lord, thou man of God, do not lie unto thine handmaid.
2Kgs 4:17 And the woman conceived, and bare a son at that season that Elisha had said unto her, according to the time of life.

My friend you need encounter with destiny. Stop blaming and attacking others who are having breakthrough, do something to have breakthrough yourself.

The Bible declared that GOD'S ways are higher than our way and HIS thought higher than our thought. Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
Isaiah 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thought. Many of us are miserably failures in life because we insist on following our sinful way. Those who are supper successful will tell you that their success steams from the facts that GOD was directing them and they are following GOD step by step.
It is said of King David that he fought the highest number of wars in Israel history as a king yet he did not loose any war-WHY? The major reason was that GOD was with him and he does nothing without first enquiring at the LORD, see 1Samuel 30:8 “And David enquired at the LORD, saying, Shall I pursue after this troop? shall I overtake them? And he answered him, Pursue: for thou shalt surely overtake them, and without fail recover all”.

2Samuel 2:1 “And it came to pass after this, that David enquired of the LORD, saying, Shall I go up into any of the cities of Judah? And the LORD said unto him, Go up. And David said, Whither shall I go up? And he said, Unto Hebron.
However, quite often, GOD’s ways doesn’t make sense to our natural reasoning. Infarct they are often foolishness to us if we use our natural reasoning to judge them.”

Most often, God’s ways are communicated to us via GOD’S messengers- the prophets. Look at various kings in Israel- those who had the prophets as their counselors succeeded because they were able to be hearing the mind and counsel of GOD. Those who despised GOD’S word and instructions from the prophets paid dearly for their actions.
Look at the story of Naaman in 2Kgs 5:10-15 And Elisha sent a messenger unto him, saying, Go and wash in Jordan seven times, and thy flesh shall come again to thee, and thou shalt be clean.
But Naaman was wroth, and went away, and said, Behold, I thought, He will surely come out to me, and stand, and call on the name of the LORD his God, and strike his hand over the place, and recover the leper.
Are not Abana and Pharpar, rivers of Damascus, better than all the waters of Israel? may I not wash in them, and be clean? So he turned and went away in a rage.
And his servants came near, and spake unto him, and said, My father, if the prophet had bid thee do some great thing, wouldest thou not have done it? how much rather then, when he saith to thee, Wash, and be clean?
Then went he down, and dipped himself seven times in Jordan, according to the saying of the man of God: and his flesh came again like unto the flesh of a little child, and he was clean.
And he returned to the man of God, he and all his company, and came, and stood before him: and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, but in Israel: now therefore, I pray thee, take a blessing of thy servant.

Again, look at the opposite in 2Kings 7:1 Then Elisha said, Hear ye the word of the LORD; Thus saith the LORD, To morrow about this time shall a measure of fine flour be sold for a shekel, and two measures of barley for a shekel, in the gate of Samaria.
2Kings 7:2 Then a lord on whose hand the king leaned answered the man of God, and said, Behold, if the LORD would make windows in heaven, might this thing be? And he said, Behold, thou shalt see it with thine eyes, but shalt not eat thereof.
Here the minister of Agriculture doubted and mocked the word of Elisha the prophet of GOD. Reason being that the words of Elisha did not make sense to his natural reasoning. The consequence was that he paid dearly for it, see verses
2Kgs 7:17-20 And the king appointed the lord on whose hand he leaned to have the charge of the gate: and the people trode upon him in the gate, and he died, as the man of God had said, who spake when the king came down to him.
And it came to pass as the man of God had spoken to the king, saying, Two measures of barley for a shekel, and a measure of fine flour for a shekel, shall be to morrow about this time in the gate of Samaria:
And that lord answered the man of God, and said, Now, behold, if the LORD should make windows in heaven, might such a thing be? And he said, Behold, thou shalt see it with thine eyes, but shalt not eat thereof.
And so it fell out unto him: for the people trode upon him in the gate, and he died.
In another development, the ways of GOD today may not be the ways of GOD tomorrow. That is to say GOD’S dealing today may not be GOD’S dealing tomorrow. For instance, MOSES paid dearly for his action for using yesterday’s instruction as against today’s instruction. See Exodous 17:5 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go on before the people, and take with thee of the elders of Israel; and thy rod, wherewith thou smotest the river, take in thine hand, and go.
Exodous 17:6 Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel.
Now see Num 20:11-13 And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock twice: and the water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their beasts also.
And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them.
This is the water of Meribah; because the children of Israel strove with the LORD, and he was sanctified in them.

This year 2012, let us be very careful in our judgment and dealings with GOD and the prophets of GOD (Ministers of GOD). A minister of GOD may be obeying the instructions of GOD, so let us be careful not to use our natural reasoning to interpret their actions OR WE COULD INCURE THE WRATH OF GOD.

Pastor joe, congrat on your winning nairaland poster of the year 2011. However it seems that pastorkun some others are not happy and are weaping over the choice of members of the forum. Congrat once again.

frosbel i expect your reaction

One of the great tragedies of mankind is to assume to know something that we are ignorant of instead of seeking to know. Worse still is trying to teach what we don’t know, in which we mess our self up. A look at what frosbel wrote about anointing is a clear indication that he lack understanding about anointing. If he knew the meaning of anointing he won’t say what he said.

By anointing we refer to GOD’S unction or enablement.GOD'S presence on an individual. Anointing can be from GOD or from satan. Anointing is in measures and that is why you get different result from different ministers of GOD. To deny that there is no special anointing is to deny.1Corinthains_12:28  “And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healing, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. “Ephesians 4:11 “And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;”

Not every body is operating under the five fold ministries unless frosbel could prove otherwise. Each of the five fold gift in the church goes with different anointing as the anointing released to each is based on the assignment given to each. Each operates in different offices even though one can manifest the whole gifts.
To deny that there is nothing like special anointing is operating with the spirit of Korah. See Numbers 16:2 “And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown .Numbers 16:3  And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?
Look at verse 3 of the above chapter. Korah and his group gathered against Moses claiming that every one is equal before GOD. GOD punished Korah and his group for their action, so be careful or you perish like Korah and his group.

To summaries the above point, the anointing GOD releases is based on the assignment given to each. The anointing GOD gives to a deliverance minister cannot be equal to the anointing HE may give you that is not in full time service that don’t have time to stay in GOD’S presence in prayer and fasting. That is, GOD cannot lavish on you the same level of anointing the same way HE anoint HIS prophets unless frosbel could prove otherwise

Moreover, anointing is a function of your spirituality. That is a man that is not spiritual (carnal) cannot boast of equal anointing with one the one that is highly spiritual. Are you spiritual enough to boast of equal anointing with your pastor, so frosbel explain?
Again anointing or special anointing as frosbel may call it is generated or increased or decreased by the quality time one spends in the presence of GOD. What amount of time do you spend before GOD in prayer and fasting in addition to studying the Bible? Look at what happened in Exodus 24:  18 “And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and gat him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.”
Exodus 34:28- 35 ¶ And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.
  And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him.
  And when Aaron and all the children of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone; and they were afraid to come nigh him.
  And Moses called unto them; and Aaron and all the rulers of the congregation returned unto him: and Moses talked with them.
  And afterward all the children of Israel came nigh: and he gave them in commandment all that the LORD had spoken with him in Mount Sinai.
  And till Moses had done speaking with them, he put a Vail on his face.
  But when Moses went in before the LORD to speak with him, he took the Vail off, until he came out. And he came out, and spake unto the children of Israel that which he was commanded.
And the children of Israel saw the face of Moses that the skin of Moses' face shone: and Moses put the Vail upon his face again, until he went in to speak with him.

There are many things to say about special anointing that frosbel are ignorant of. I am sorry to say this; frosbel seems to be a spiritual rebel. He doesn’t attend any church and doesn’t recognize any pastor. For that, be very careful about him as the devil is manipulating him, using him to deceive people. .
2Ch 20:20  And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.

Anointing is in measures as GOD anoints or special anointing to different people in a special way. Even among ministers of GOD the anointing they carry is not the same how much more you that is a lay person in the church for frosbel to poison your mind not to recognize SPECIAL ANOINTING that your pastor carries.
GOD’S CALLING; For frosbel to deny that there is nothing like GOD’S calling is not but a deceit. Please see Jeremiah 1:4 “Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Jeremiah 1:5  Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. “ See also the call of Moses in Exodus 3:1-10 .
In the church, people are given special assignment and each assignment goes with special anointing to be able to carry out the assignment. Ephesians 4:11 “And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;”

There are many who are called but refuse  to obey the calling, while there are many who are not called but went on there own. Those who are genuinely called, believe you me are enjoying special anointing so don’t allow frosbel or anybody to deceive you.

@poster
Please don't bring Gbile into your false information. If you are sincere with what you are saying kindly post the message for us to listen and confirm.

@poster
frosbel, what do you intend to achieve from these posters?

Sirniyeh:

Among all the great Nigerian pastors I vividly know that would be exposed for their ritual very soon is Oyedepo. People are blind now but soon we shall all see. Pastor Akinade denied Erelu Abiye when she confessed but two human skulls and other charms were found in his private room after his death. Soon, what oyedepo did in Kaduna before he fled to lagos will be exposed. They are all rogues. Why 4.5m jet? To reach God or who? Owo awon mugun! If he has money for jet, why still collecting offering. The truth is 60% of his church members for the past 10yrs are unable to buy a car. If all the offrings and tithes for past 10yrs are saved, they will buy car. Or is it not time after 10yrs to buy car? Does it mean God has not hearken their cry? Wake up my people, dont be educated illiterates! The pastors are making riches at the expense of the church members. Open your TV, you see them flooding airwave in the name of prophets. What are they propheting? I know 10 pastors who go to ijebu igbo to collect charm in the name of holy ghost. Wake up. Watch out for the disgrace of some top nigerian pastor 2012?

If i say you are possessed i will not be mistaken. For that reason replying your post is but a waste of time.