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jimioluwole1:
Hmmm... Anyway, thanks so much bro for ur contribution

12,000 pounds for uk
8000 dollars for Mauritius
8000 euros for Malta
Not sure of the price in Uae, but it should be under 10000 pounds..

There are partner institutions you could complete your bsc though for under 1.5m.

TayserMahiri:
If they are at par, then how come I never see Nigerian hotels in the lists of top hotels in Africa where Kenya hardly misses?
I agree you guys have religious tourism. Are your pastors stronger (spiritually) than other pastors or closer to God or wat? I hope they pay taxes like in Kenya. We tax them for transacting the business of selling hope and faith



Alamsiki !

wewe pia

spectabilis:
Are you saying Ethiopia has aircraft carriers and submarines? You can't be more wrong bro. In the links below, USA donated military hardwares to Pakistan and France also donated some military hardwares to India. A country like USA donating military hardwares to Nigeria is very normal. It can only become a very serious issue when countries like Kenya start donating military hardwares to Nigeria.
Nigeria too as a big brother can decide to donate some used military hardware to Kenya after we are done with Boko haram.

[url]https://defpost.com/france-donate-31-jaguar-aircraft-india/
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https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/news/defence/us-gives-pakistan-5-4-bn-worth-of-military-equipment/amp_articleshow/47179723.cms

I said Brazil and India.. Why will I say Ethiopia has submarines when they don't have a navy and is a landlocked country.

TayserMahiri:
What do you do in Kenya?

study, vacations, visit friends..
Na enda lala...

TayserMahiri:
What are the chances that Naija would have better hotels than Kenya given Kenya is a tourist destination and Naija is not? Even without visiting I'd know there is a touch of class your hotels cannot reach simply because there is not much pressure to conform to best international standards. Your hotels mostly serve locals and so there is a level of casualness to be expected.

going by your logic..
There are more tourist sites in Nairobi than in Washington d.c ..does that mean the hotels in Nairobi are better.. Seriously. I have stayed in hotels in both countries. They are at par .. Btw what we lack in mainstream tourism , we have in religious. Tourism. You'd be surprised at the number of east Africans coming to synagogue. Scoan every other week..

TayserMahiri:
I think that guy felt like saying something and nothing was forthcoming so he made a list offhead.

Most probably..i am still trying to wrap my head around Congo being a military power in Africa..

TayserMahiri:
Nice, its just that I saw another clip where a tourist was complaining over misleading info in a top star hotel in Lagos.

Forgive my country folks ignorance...

TayserMahiri:
Nice, its just that I saw another clip where a tourist was complaining over misleading info in a top star hotel in Lagos.

Must have been the hot air from our airport still affecting her..
Seriously though. You've got nothing on our Hotels.

TayserMahiri:
Seriously !

Sudan has a powerful millitary yet there are many Sudanese refugees in Kenya.

TayserMahiri:
Yet there are guys who have never left Naija that think they know better. Such a pity. Keep punching them with knowledge. Btw, alot has changed since 2013.

i have stayed at least 4 weeks in Kenya every year since 2013

TayserMahiri:
Villa Rosa Kempinski, Nairobi Kenya

I'll make a wild guess that there is no such hotel in West Africa in terms of quality.

This is where Barrack Hussein Obama spent his time while in Kenya back in 2015.

Plenty quality hotels in Nigeria southern sun, radison blu, eko hotel. hilton...we don't have them in short supply. Anything that doesn't require direct govt input, we have plenty.

TayserMahiri:
Is that when you were in Kenya?

Yes..

TayserMahiri:
DRC and Libya? That must be your own list

War torn and resource cursed Drc.. I Wonder where that list was pulled from..

spectabilis:
Egypt
Algeria
Ethopia
Nigeria
South Africa
Angola
Morocco
Sudan
Libya
Democratic Republic of the Congo


Above is the top ten militaries in Africa for 2017. Kenya did not even make top ten in Africa and you are here comparing them with Nigeria militarily. As someone rightly said, Nigeria should be in comparison with countries like Brazil, India, etc.

Bros those countries you mentioned have aircraft carriers and submarines o..don't let us get ahead of ourselves. USa still donates Naval assets to us in exchange for God knows what..

TayserMahiri:
Conclusion?

I dont agree with religious institutions per capita being part of the assessment. Clearly Kenya spends more per capita on the things that make life better for its citizens despite having a lower per capita gdp.

I was expecting you see through the sarcasm.
I made my conclusions February 2013..

Daejoyoung:
Wow are you ahead of Nigeria in Sports and Military?

Kenya is doing well in rugby sevens, cricket,long distance racing, motor sports,
There are many Nigerians playing in the Kpl.
They've been the most successful. African team at the olympics, Iaaf for a while now.
If in doubt check the medal count at the last olympics.
Nigerians are doing well in sport but mostly individually. Collectively not so much.
Millitary, I know Kenya is a powerhouse in East Africa.so is Nigeria in W.Africa and Africa at large. But according to gdp stats, kenya spends 5 dollars more per citizen than Nigeria. In defence

TayserMahiri:
You need to kick sports, military and education out of your list. No way you can be ahead in those. You call tea little things? I dont wonna start a lesson for you on that it might be overwhelming.

So why cant you rely on the experience of those Nigerians who have actually been to Kenya. Many of your country folk get a sense of remorse/ pity immediately they land at the airport in Nairobi because it feels like they landed somewhere in Europe. You might land in Nairobi in future and then come back here with a different tune.

We can get more information from gdp.
Nigeria has a higher per capital income
Kenya has higher per capital debt ratio
Kenya has higher per capita on infrastructure , education , health(5x in education
Nigeria
Nigeria has a lower p.c on defence
Similar corruption index 26 vs 28
Same fitch ratings b plus.
Nigeria has more religious institutions. Per capita
Internet penetration is higher in Kenya..

TayserMahiri:


Sheng umeigitch sana? Saw you speaking some

Na jua kidogo sheng

TayserMahiri:
I hope you're not insinuating we are at 94' level in terms of politics and democracy. We may be doing that shyt now but all that is actually a result of having too much democratic and political space. People here do as they wish without fear, I resume you saw that during your brief stay.

Far from that, just said Nigeria has been in a similar situation. I admire the fact Kenyans are able to assemble without fear of being persecuted..

kikuyu1:
Finally! Facts-thanks,blob.

karibu kikuyu1

Daejoyoung:
lt's not a lie at all, but l don't know why l just find this comparison and arguement irritating, maybe it would make more sense to me on a Kenyan website and not a Nigerian website.
The OP should be flogged with 20 strokes of the cane.

Thats true , The main reason i do this is to let Nigerians know we can demand more from our government. Countries with fewer resources are providing better for their citizens, let us all stop settling for less.
it is also kind of weird they are discussing their internal political issues on a Nigerian Website.
Heard of the sad news closing three Stations following the swearing in of the "Peoples President". Nigeria was in that same situation 1994.

Daejoyoung:
ok, but the comparison is meaningless, for example when you say education you may judge based on rankings from webometrics, some may find that too simplistic. Also Nigeria is a big country and far more populated than Kenya. l do not live in Lagos for instance, but my kind of person abhors the life in Lagos, while a host of my family members love Lagos, and it goes on and on.
For infrastructure, a sizeable part of the Kenyan population have constant electricity(though they produce less megawatts in general than Nigeria) also because of this, there's a better ease of doing business in Kenya. that's as far as it goes.
What else do you have in Nairobi in terms of infrastructure? the rail from mombassa to Nairobi shouldn't be compared to the ongoing massive rail projects across Nigeria.
Whatever the Kenyans have posted here in terms of beauty, structures or architectures, they are not in short supply across Nigeria as well.
ln summary, it is not as simple as saying this one is better than this one. Kenya is a much smaller country than Nigeria in terms of population and also in size, though this is not an excuse, it is a viable point, and thus the comparison would always be fruitless.

I agree with you that Its not as simple as saying one is better but I was specific about infrastructure and education.
Those beautiful places in Nigeria you see, how many is as a result of governments direct effort, whereas the pictures from the Kenyan side show communal facilities, not someone's private property.
A house/hotel is not infrastructure,
Education: I for one don't rank Universities based on its Webometrics ranking. I look at things like Research output, Quality of research, and sometimes the number of international students in the institution. the public institutions in Kenya are way ahead in that regards as at now.
I am very excited about Convenant Univerisity though, their research output is impressive.


Like you I also abhor life in Lagos despite having lived most of my life there, commuting 5 hours a day is not easy, i am considering moving to a city like Ibadan, Akure or Ilorin, Problem is getting a job in those cities..
All that said, the opportunity in Nigeria is enormous,we just need to get things right.

Daejoyoung:
These new guys on the thread are something else, this thread is 1500 pages long, that should tell you there's almost nothing that hasn't been posted or discussed here. This thread is now for the Kenyans, to discuss their internal political problems in Kenya and also post beautiful pictures of their country as they do that, it has ceased being a thread for debate a long time ago.

My apologies, the thread's topic still a bit misleading, can the thread be renamed to reflect the changes and avoid debates down the line?

Daejoyoung:
Where in Nigeria did you live and what are your criterias/parameters for judging? can't you see this arguement is meaningless and long overdue?

I know the argument is long overdue but, i'll just like to educate my fellow Nigerians..
Nigeria has the potential for a lot more but the political class won't let it be.
First criteria is quality of life. The quality of life is better by far in Kenya.
Electricity: Power was stable during my four months stay, no single outage except on one occasion when we were given notice for routine maintenance.

Transportation: Matatus are cheap 10, 20 shillings for the same distance that will cost you 150 - 250 in Lagos,
also very comfortable 3 a seat compared to 4 a seat in lagos,
very easy to move around at any time of the day.
I used to wonder why transportation in Kenya was cheap despite paying more money for fuel per litre and the high costs of clearing vehicles
from the port in Mombassa.
I came to one conclusion greed.

Education: Check University rankings, take some Nigerians through the Kenyan public school system they will turn out a lot better.

Orderliness: you don't see Kenyans jumping queue anyhow.

Daejoyoung:
Where in Nigeria did you live and what are your criterias/parameters for judging? can't you see this arguement is meaningless and long overdue?

grew up on the island, Ikoyi, Lekki

TayserMahiri:
Ati both?

having lived in Nigeria and Kenya, i'll admit Kenya is ahead of Nigeria (Infrastucture, education...)

Mambo guys. Both countries ni poa

Daniel Akins
University of Greenwich
Computing 2013
Lagos

Febup:
Your are right I have worked with Computer Science majors and they are truly not the ones to head software projects the are only good are coding but Software Engineering majors have been trained at uni to understand full software life cycle, coding, programming paradigms and project management.

The problem with software projects is who you know rather that your ability because the sector is not regulated, so you'll find those not suited are the ones heading these software projects.

Imagine someone thinking UAT testing is the same as unit testing. this someone comes from a business background and leads a software team

Febup:
All self taught programmers I have worked with without a degree in Software Engineering or Computer Science only understands what they have been trained to do, they can not research and find new solutions to new complex issues. Well the truth is that a software project should be headed by those with a degree in Software Engineering and some years of experience as these are the people that can guarantee that a software project cannot fail. Even those with a degree in computer science should be supervised by a qualified Software engineer as Computer Science is not the same as Software Engineering.

Exactly most cs majors also don't understand the business requirements / analysis side of projects. While most of them are excellent coders, they hardly understand what the stakeholders want. Most Software engineers however have a big richer picture of the whole system from technological to a social point of view so they are more qualified to lead teams

dhtml18:
^^^that too happens. Right now, something is happening in a big government hospital in Nigeria. A company came and said they could build a hospital management system, they pushed button, signed contract, collect money.

Somehow they got to get my number and were calling me to come and help them do the stuff, i no answer them o. Imagine, they went into contract without having a programmer, collect money, they are now looking for a programmer to kill - no be me, I have better things to do with my time.

How will that type of thing not fail?

I'm sure no brd was signed/ in this case, if the system manages to get built, what the system does and what the stakeholders want will be different things.