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This very regular looking building in London costs this much. If you were to erect a similar edifice in Lagos, it would definitely cost less. And even far less in Nairobi. But people who just wanna argue won't still see it. They know nothing about how the value of a terrain boosts the value of a property. They just wanna scream to feel good. Lagos real estate is far ahead of anything in Kenya. And you can quote me
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obaaderemi:Don't mind the numb skull. It's not even something to debate. It's all over several platforms and blogs. I shouldn't have argued at all in the first place. And I expected that by now, they would have posted a more expensive property than what I posted, which is the average property in that area. I guess the wait will be endless. |
obaaderemi:Lol. I know right. |
It's not a bad thing to dedicate a last post to showing a person whom they truly are - lame, rather than re-proving to them what is glaring in their face but they simply chose not to believe. I know the dummy will still hop on this post. But his headache anyway. By the way, I'm still waiting for a sane person to come with a real estate in Kenya that can match what has already been posted for Lagos. Good luck to y'all. I'll be back later. |
NairobiWalker:Your analogy is as lame as yourself. Go ahead and jump a cliff over it. And Please I stopped staying in mentions since, don't spam mine with your silliness |
This Nairobiweakling dude is simply straw clutching. Yes I said Muthaiga has apartments, a term I used to vaguely refer to residences. Now he's gonna knock his head on a stone because of that all day. They can bring up the least costly in their most expensive places, yet can't bring up the highest in same place, or at least something to at least match what I posted. Who doesn't know that it will cost more to build an edifice of equal facilities in a city like New York compared to Lagos simply as a result of being a more expensive and more developed terrain. Dude is perpetually moronic |
obaaderemi:And that's what I'm doing from now. Looks like his aim on here is to bring people down to his mediocre level. Arguing with him is cumbersome with no real usefulness. No one got no time for his silliness anymore. And in fact, I think Nigerians should just leave these guys to believe whatever they chose to. It shouldn't be by force afterall. If it makes them feel good that they can rub shoulders with us, then good luck to them. |
There are exclusively rich Nigerians that will easily pay 3 billion naira monthly for rent. Anybody's ignorance won't negate this. You could argue that there is a big disparity between the rich and poor in the country. That's a good argument. But to say their aren't people who can afford that worth of property in a country like Nigeria is just crude |
NairobiWalker:Got no time for a dumbbell. It's not my job to force sense in your skull. Looks like you are perpetually locked in your uncouthness and callowness. When a fact is slammed on your face, you play the disbelief card. which often just pass of as being dumb. Believe whatever you wanna man. I'm just gonna ignore you henceforth, there are saner people to reply on here. |
NairobiWalker:You are so slow I would rather not insult you back for it. You are very low bro. Prove me wrong that there are no residential places in Muthaiga. 500000 Kenya shillings, the highest I saw on your link, is just 5000dollars. Go and beat the other post I gave the other man. In fact, I think arguing with you will give me undue stress I obviously don't deserve. Swerve bro. |
Pavore9:Lmao. And you think there can ever be a match for a place like this in Kenya? This is an apartment in Banana. Just 3 bedroom. It costs a whooping 3 billion naira monthly!
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Pavore9:Then I'm surprised how you could ever think the most expensive place in Kenya can match in value, what's obtainable in the most expensive parts of Lagos. |
Pavore9:You could be wrong if you have had no dealings or no knowledge of the most expensive real Estates in both cities. You could live in Lagos for aeons and still not know certain things about the city trust me. |
NairobiWalker:Share a link please and shoot yourself on the foot as usual. Duh, people live in Muthaiga and that's the rental cost I quoted, just about $3000. No rental space costs $10000 monthly in Kenya, haven't heard of, or except you prove me wrong with a link at least. I could take a bow. And the answer to your real surprise is bad governance. That has been overemphasized on this thread. So I understand if you can't wrap your head round the fact that after all these, Kenya is still too small a country to compare to Nigeria. |
Pavore9:I get your point. Quality is not quantifiable. It's easier to imagine the equivalent from both cities just thinking about the quality of neighborhoods, lawns, slums, people etc. A tad rowdy place in London could still cost more than a reserved place in Lagos. And that's my point. In terms of value equivalent, all you would have mostly succeeded in doing are mismatches. So why don't the bests go horn for horn? |
Pavore9:Good for you. I too have dealers of real estate in a few African cities, Nairobi inclusive. And of course, I have personal dealings in Lagos real estate too. So they aren't hard to figure. |
Pavore9:First of, how did you get the perfect equivalent of Magodo in Nairobi to arrive at this? It will be hard to judge an equivalent knowing that values of an apartment with exact same facilities vary from location to location. That brings me to why you should compare the extremes in both situations, that is, the best of Nairobi and the best of Lagos. And please, you can get an apartment of $3000 in Muthaiga, not 5k as the least cost that you quoted. Like I said earlier, apartments in Eko Atlantic cost 10000 monthly. They were fully bought before it's completion. That makes a big business statement. These things are not rocket science. |
PissedYagami:You meant to say more demand, higher prices right? And that's the answer to your question. Demand for real estate in Nigeria, particularly prior to the recent economy down turn, is very high. Nigeria can't even provide adequately yet for housing, and the economy is this big, what happens when they start to become self sufficient? You made a good point about a real estate bubble the other time. But that is not the case in Nigeria as going into the future, there will always be demand to be met for a very long time especially when the economy restabilizes. It's such a unique situation. |
That is not even to mention the newly completed and fully bought eko pearl towers with rent STARTING from $10000 per month! You can always verify my claims. Well, I think I understand the surprise of these Kenyans, and maybe other Africans. "How come Nigeria without 24hrs power supply is still the continents largest economy? What will then happen when they eventually get it right with power?" These and many other questions, they ask. I'd be totally shocked too if I were in their shoes. |
Pavore9:There are properties that cost $5000 per month in Lagos. |
Pavore9:This is funny as I know the most expensive place in Nairobi is probably Muthaiga which costs this amount you quoted. Ikoyi on the other hand costs not less than $3500 for a 3 bedroom apartment, a space nothing close to a masionette. Go figure! |
shizzy7:Dear, I know quite much about real estate. Dollars is a fixed currency that can be used across countries. In Ikoyi, a lot of the time, payments are made in dollars, not naira. From real estate to even payment of school fees in those places. With our devalued currency presently, what you expect is an increase in the cost in naira, not a decrease of cost in dollars. The truth is, the value of real estate in Nigeria is way more than in Kenya. |
NairobiWalker:Stop shooting yourself on the foot with your posts. Lagos is over 700 dollars in this link, Nairobi is about 600. Makes you look dumb. |
NairobiWalker:You are the one who's a dummy here. Your link even ranks Lagos first. So what's your point? |
PissedYagami:In value, I can boldly say yes. Rental in Lagos and Abuja are some of the costliests in Africa. You can start by giving the costliest place in Kenya in dollar terms. That for Nigeria has already been given here |
kongobi:The bold part reeks of nothing short of hypocrisy. Nigerians on this thread so far have owned to their inadequacies. Bad government, lack of power etc. It's yours that have painted a picture perfect Kenya. The point is, even in Nigerias present quagmire, it is a country bigger and better than Kenya in many sectors. These are facts. And in the real sense of it, Nigerians do not actually belittle any African country. Unlike in countries like SA and Kenya, other African countries in Nigeria are treated with respect corresponding to their status |
An apartment in London costs more than its equivalent in Lagos. So does one in Lagos cost more than a Kenyan equivalent. You may see all those tall buildings in Kenya too but we all know their values cannot be compared to what you have in Nigeria. Yet they wonder how Nigeria has a bigger economy? |
Fidha254:Haha. Seems you missed the point. And that makes you hilarious instead. He said in a country of 45 million, 3 million live in Nairobi, the country's largest. Others in a few cities not up to 10 obviously with far less populations. So where are the rest? "Chasing wild animals in rural areas" just quoting the nigga tho. Didn't say that. ![]() Could be that a large population of Kenyans live in bushes and villages. Just thinking out loud. Haha |
Lol I'm not gonna mention that other nigga since doing so would be too childish. Like, I could easily get 1001 pictures of Kenyans living in abject poverty too but that's not my thing. Just stating here and re-emphasizing it, Nigeria is in one truly undeserved situation considering where we are coming from and wasted resources of many years, but with all these, it should NEVER be compared to Kenya. On the African continent, Nigeria not only has the political clout, it has the economic and financial posture as well as the soft power. So Kenya and Kenyans need to rest |
14:If Mr Dangote didn't jump up, please who else would? This is a ginormous businessman who has investments in several African countries and who knows the return on investment from country to country. But you can be pardoned for making it about Nigerians generally, of course, these are a people who are of high intelect and see most other Africans as the smaller brothers that they truly are. Later on they sent the GDP stats to IMF as $415bn compared to bloomberg claim of $275bn based on their currency exchange rate with the dollar. Some nigerian commentator was furius on TV explaining the Nigerian GDP calculation, saying that the oil sector is calculated in dollars and not Naira.This is largely a misinformation. Bloomberg used the exchange rate as at July for GDP figures of December 2015. That methodology was simply faulty and that was what KPMG even argued against. Current exchange rates were supposed to be matched with current local GDP figures for each country to give a clearer picture of things. The adjustment was eventually made and that was what led to the affirmation by IMF of Nigeria's true status. It's not a farce, Nigeria is Africa's biggest economy. You cannot have a GDP of $500bn and only raise a tax revanue of $21bn, the maths does not add-up. Even if you can come up with an excuse of the economy being largely informal, $21bn is too little considering 90% of it comes from oil. So my question is, how did you quantify that informal economy or it was just by estimate. On top of that you claim to float your currency, while you peg it at N305 to the dollar, while the parallel market is at N470 to the dollar. SA has only one currency exchange rate, unlike nigeria which has more than 4 currency exchange rates, N290, N305, N400, N470 to the doller, which one is the correct one.The ability to raise revenue from tax is mainly dependent on the institution responsible for it and the political willingness. This has been lacking in Nigeria for many years due to free flow of oil revenues. And you ask why that makes up 90% of the tax revenue? It would even make more sense for you to talk down on the absence of such system rather than claim Nigeria cannot simply raise the revenue because, according to you, the economy is simply not big enough. By the way, under the current FIRS boss, Nigeria non oil revenue has increased. Of course with a decrease in revenue from oil so it's hard to tell the overall impact of such improvement. But it's definitely a work in progress. Nigeria is going through what venezuela is going through.You can please save your doomsday prophecies for another country because Nigeria is never going to get to that anytime soon. Not up to 30% of the population work with the government, Nigerians are largely entrepreneurs and so there is a trough to how bad things can ever get even with this current seemingly directionless government. Speaking of debts, Nigeria is still very lowly indebted compared to South Africa for instance. The depth to GDP ratio is one of the lowest in the whole world giving her a better posture to borrow. And borrowing is never a crime if it is rightly used to improve infrastructure. I don't want to start reeling out the debt profiles of countries like USA, China and the Euros. And on Nigerians leaving the country for other places, take this from me, even when Nigeria gets 3 times better than it presently is, you will still find Nigerians trying to do business and/or work, live, in other countries of opportunities. Americans look for opportunities everywhere there is, they don't sit at home saying their country is the best. So it's you who should continue to sit on this space as Nigeria remains resilient through difficult economic climates and thereafter, continues to evolve. |
KenyaMan111:Asides the fact that your picture isn't even from Nigeria, I cannot resort to being dragged down by your inability to comprehend, your derisions and incivility since that's mostly what you've had to offer so far on this thread. And all these definitely ain't my fault, must be the country that brought you up. So Nigga bye. |
Somebody deliberately doesn't want to believe that Nigeria has the biggest economy in Africa, it's their choice. You can't force people to not be dull if they so choose. And that's not gonna stop the institutions that matter from quoting Nigeria as indeed the biggest in economic activities. In dollar terms, price of office spaces and apartments in Lagos, Abuja and Port Harcourt is in multiple of what is obtainable in Kenya. Economists know the good and bad implication of this. If you are smart, you'd see why Lagos is richer than the whole Kenya. I will continue to reiterate, Nigeria with its myriad of problems right now is far enormous to be compared to Kenya, an equivalent to just one state here. |

A country of 45million then you want to have one city with 20million