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Oxtonguy:
Akure suburb

oh my. I love these Akure pictures

Afam4eva:
Actually, only 30 cities were used in the finding, so don't make it seem like Lagos scored a point as Lagos came last among the 30 cities. It's better they don't include Lagos in these rankings than put it just for us to carry last as usual.

Duh. The report never stated that only certain cities were used. So yours are nothing but speculations. By the way, Istanbul, Cairo and Kinshasa have very enormous populations too, some greater than Lagos. But they were not listed. So come up with something smarter.

If you've been to Ib (depends on what part tho, some places are not it yet ), you'd love the city.

I love IB

betterABIAstate:
Op won't show us this one

Op said the central campus, not hostel area. I think OAU hostels need to be rehabilitated though.
Lalasticlala Seun see your almamater

So true.
This thread should be moved to culture and put on front page.
Cc Lalasticlala

Tellemall:
Ethics on culling?

Pray, tell us, how do people cull if not by killing? If I kill one on Monday and five on Thursday and two on Friday, has that changed the fact that I'm still offing excess animals? Or are there now ethics for killing? The halal method of culling excess chickens, perhaps.

I do not seek to give you comic relief. I simply wish you would get over the fact that animals get killed when there are too many of them and nobody needs them. That is the point. Nobody wants them and so they get killed. What has ethics to do with things that are destined for death one way or the other?

Once I don't see it your way, it means I've got to need more education on it, right?

*Sneers at what you think is intelligence*

I would have called your first question senseless but I'll rather help you ask it in a better way just so maybe you get the drift.
"What method of killing is more appropriate when culling?" If that don't still make sense to you? Then the following will be my last response to you.
You seem to just be focused on wanting your chicks dead without recourse to how it's done. This is the ethics being considered here that you find difficult to fathom.
Maceration is the approach used in the video up there. The proponents of it believe it kills the birds instantly. Those against it believe it still induces some sort of pain on the birds before death. Anyways, a commercial macerator that is efficient will do the job. There are several other methods such as gasing with CO2, electrocution and cervical dislocation. They all have their problems too. Hence, the new sense of direction is driven towards in-ovo gender identification where gender is determined before hatching in the first place.
So what I asked you to address in the first place, which the op was referring to, is the approach to the killing.
Calling culling severally over the thread definitely called no reasoning to the argument. No pun intended.

Tellemall:
You seem genuinely touched by the killing of these chicks.

I do not share the same empathy for these chicks.

But I like your passion for them. Your shock is so shocking!

But, like I said, CULLING is CULLING. It's the same way people abort (I do not justify that) when they feel they cannot cater to the needs of the coming child. However, these are just chickens. It may be criminal, but they aren't humans. Several reasons warrant that culling .

I'm not sure if the company who owns the chickens should be the one searching for buyers of the chicks. Buyers should be the ones looking for them. And I guess there is no market for such fragile creatures that doesn't bring more expenses to the companies that produce these eggs.

@Boyedex, I brought out the technical name for a simple process that is continuously going on. If we rear too many chickens they say we're contributing to GHGs. If we save us the pain of that, they say it's cruelty! I don't need to address the economic and environmental demerits of keeping those male chicks alive. It's not good for business keeping them alive, or they would have been kept alive.

Even the government supports culling in certain instances, so I do not see what they would expect one to do with excess chickens. There's only one way to cull and you know it. Or shall we introduce gas chambers for these feathered friends? Or do we line them up, one for Monday and two for Tuesday, because that's not a mass killing?

But have you cared for humans facing genocide, Boyedex, rather than reminding me that CULLING, of all necessary things, is criminal?

Mr man. It's obvious you cannot touch the point the op has made. Else you wouldn't merry-go-round it without essence. You have reiterated severally on this thread that you know what culling is. I think what you need to educate yourself more on is the ethics surrounding this common process. You will probably learn other methods of killing animals without some gruesome shredding. Rather than using this discussion to learn/improve on your comic skills and questioning styles.
In the end, when you put effort to thoughts, you'll get an answer to your funny and weird question on whether I care about killing of humans in any form of it.

Tellemall:
Yes, I called it that.

It's CULLING. It's what any reasonable people do when fauna population exceed bearable limits. It's a waste of resources breeding such chicks till maturity when one doesn't run a butchery.

Don't tell me you don't kill flies or mosquitoes.

But what steps have you taken in rehabilitating these soon to be extinct male chicks ( that sounds funny)?

You should direct this righteous indignation to humans facing genocide in Nigeria, since saving chicks that will end up in pots anyway is not worth it. Or will the chickens show you gratitude as cockerels on your barbecue?

You simply brought out the technical term for this process and unfortunately that changes nothing. Yes it's culling. But how was the culling done? Just so you know, there are ethical issues surrounding how you handle animals in saner climes. You don't just gather a group of "unwanted" birds and shred them alive in the name of culling. You can be prosecuted. That's what the op is talking about and that's what you should address.

Did it:
Also, one wonders why the other soldiers who are not defusing the bomb are standing so close. A completely unnecessary risk, in my view.

Lmao. Did you freaging change that guys moniker to what suits you Damn!
modified. I now see how it works.

Muhammadu explained that the government chose the option of dialogue with the militant groups in order not to send a wrong signal to the international community on some of the happenings in the country

I'm not a big fan of Buhari but I like his approach. He is trying to do everything possible first to give the supporters of the militants no point when he starts wielding the other option - full military operation.
Buhari that is known would be willing to see a military action take place in that region. And crying may be too late if it ever gets to that.

attacker321:
Don't mind him, to them ewedu logic is 'sophistication' or better put, cowardice.

The Igbos have risen up to engage Nigeria in arms frontally something no other tribe has been able to do.

And to what end was your "gallantry" or better put, misadventure? The loss of millions of your people while you still cry marginalization till date, thereby wanting out in the most confused form ever, as your continuous migration to the west wouldn't make any sane person take y'all seriously. The direction to which y'all beat your chests often contradicts your supposed bravery in the end.

fratermathy:
Like I said before, it's none of my business. I thought I was talking to sensible people whose brains have not been completely destroyed by the Yoruba-Igbo/Igbo-Yoruba factor but I guess I'm wrong. Infact, y'all should go on and kill ya'selves. The world will be a better place for me


But seriously, you Yorubas here have no business being on an Igbo thread and worse still, doing what you are doing now-: trying to derail it. Your acts have absorbed you into bigotry. I didn't see Igbos uploading pics of Onitsha in your rusty Ibadan threads

Okay, granted that there is no need for some comparisons as the truth is always glaring to the discerning, I hope you'll be sensible enough too to see the hypocrisy in your statement that a Yoruba person shouldn't be seen on an Igbo thread. Trust me, that doesn't sound "detribalized" at all.

fratermathy:
Stop showing us pictures of private hotels, malls and resorts and labeling them as Ibadan as if the state government built them. Even in Onitsha, there are beautiful hotels, malls, schools, resorts, etc! Though I am not an Igbo person, I detest this biased comparison. Get us the pictures of Ibadan's city center, road networks, slums, infrastructure, etc and make a good comparison. Private enterprise do not count.

Besides this is an ONITSHA thread. I don't know why it has been hijacked by Yoruba people to showcase Ibadan.

Lol this post is at best a wailing post. Seriously? They should get you pictures of slum? How many of you have posted slum of East on this thread unaided by others? I thought Ibadan was 101% slum. How come you are wailing over the private Enterprises there. And of course you simply refused to see it, pictures of road networks and city centres and aerials of Ibadan have been posted on this same thread. It's not so much a bitter pill but you make it look like it- that Ibadan is more developed than any Eastern city!

I vote mimzy
Cc NLjega

And a few more.

obaino860:
why can't you stop this rating for God sake.....I have always known you to be a tribal bigot....and I wonder why you haven't been banned...FOR your information and advice..,do yourself well by leaving your environment and travel round and see how far states have developed....some state infrastructure are not always placed online.....TRy and visit kANO and OWERRI and when you come back you will stone your governor...dis issue of akure and Ibadan been developed will stop.....don't always deceive yourself and your governors by portraying bad to be good....JUST TRY AND VISIT DIS TWO CITIES


I can show you some online pics...watch on

d pics above are OWERRi..

more of owerri

It's comments like this that shows ignorance instead. You don't have to believe it, but Ibadan will always be more developed than owerri or any eastern town

Rossikk:
It's no different from what I said earlier, ie that Nigerians in 1952 would have said "never in a million years" if you had shown them images of modern Lagos CBD. Do you realise that in 1952 there was not a single power plant or university in Nigeria?

okay then. I rest my case.

Rossikk:
During colonial rule, the outlook was very bleak. There was malnutrition, 90% illiteracy, near-zero infrastructure, near-zero electricity, and not a single serious industry, major hospital, or university, in the country. People under colonial rule had no hope of a greater country. It was only after the British were kicked out in 1960 that real development started taking place, and Nigerians became positive about the future.

Now that's a better argument. And not the "people would have said never to a development in the 50s" argument. The people of the 50s, 60s and early 70s had great foresight. That's why I singled out that portion of your post to correct in your original post.

Rossikk:
Liar. The only picture from the 1950s you posted was of Carter bridge. The others are late 60s to early 70s.

Name calling shows you are mediocre especially when you don't fact check properly. Whether 50s or 60s, were they not the same people of that time? It's safe to say the colonials were already handing off in the 50s. My point is, those that started off Nigeria immediately pre/post-independence had great foresight and not like today's crop of politicians. Things look bleaker now. That is not to say things won't improve with time.
Back to your name-calling, this is probably where you picked your photos from and like I said earlier, it's Lagos in the 50s and 60s. http://www.travelstart.com.ng/blog/40-old-photos-that-will-show-you-how-times-have-changed-in-nigeria/

Rossikk:
Why would they ''envision'' it in 1952? This was Nigeria's busiest commercial street in 1952, Broad Street, Lagos:

https://personal.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/D.Jefferies/amj/nigeria-1951/02-broad-street-lagos-1951.jpg

Why would the people, then under colonial rule, envisage anything better? Do you think the colonialists were developing the country in any serious way?

that is only one side of the story. This is the same Lagos in the late 50s. Point is things had started developing fast since the 50s and I'm sure the people in mind had something great in mind. Last picture is OAU as far back as the late 60s. Is that not foresight?

cindybella101:
On a serious note someone might lost his way on this road(s). Lalasticlala and mynd44 what do you think ?

Lol that's funny but you can't get lost. There are always road signs with directions on them. It's even in this one you uploaded.

Rossikk:
It will happen in time. There is nothing special about that construction. The more an economy grows, the more structures like that you'll find. The Nigerian economy is Africa's largest, so it's only a matter of time. We even have stuff that resembles that already, but not with as many flyovers.
But it will happen, no doubt. If someone had dropped these images below of modern Lagos to folks in 1952, they would have said ''never in a million years''.

On the contrary, I think the people of that time had more foresight and could probably envision it. At the moment, things look more bleak and hence the relative hopelessness.

Shukuakukobambi:
June 12 is the reason why a Yoruba man called obasanjo became the first Nigerian to rule for an unbroken 8 Democratic years. GEJ wanted to but was discarded like a used menstrual pad

June 12 is the same reason why since 1999, the same Yoruba through OBJ then plus Tinubu later have determined the course of Democratic leadership in the country. OBJ ruled for 8 years. He single handedly dumped a sick Yaradua on the seat. When that one kaput, OBJ chased all the pretenders like Atiku away and he put his minion GEJ there. When that one became an ineffectual buffoon due to unceasing sucking of his d!ck by your fathers, OBJ partnered with Tinubu the crook to chase gej away and install buhari.

Infact, buhari still consults the ebora owu regularly for advice on how to keep you noisemakers in check while any of your family that aspires to any post in this country must first go lick Tinubu's a$$ in Lagos to get recommended e.g Ben Akabueze

60% of 2016 capital vote is focused on SW and infact construction works have resumed first on Lagos-Ibadan expressway before any other road. You know fashola na son of his father

All these because of June 12

Now tell me what you got for the sake of the miseries of 3million folks in 1967 ?

OMG! I certainly never saw that coming. I mean how you ended your argument. Epic. Though I feel a bit of pity for these people. But they don't ever learn when it comes to being strategic, politically intelligent and forward thinking.

Macelliot:
so unfortunately, the word "cities" has been Bastardized.

ArodewilliamsT:
Why are these ones giddy? Please mention your own cities villages in any part of Nigeria and we can start from there

Lmao! Glorified villages now called 'cities'. Wonders

Why are these ones giddy? Mention your own cities villages in any part of Nigeria then we can start from there!

Southwest Nigeria. The most beautiful, best developed, tranquil and peaceful region in Nigeria. Rich in history and their ancient past, yet modern, egalitarian and evolving!

Enahi:
You need to be specific with your questions. Edo doesn't 've any similarity with any of the listed tribes you wrote, the Language, food and dressing are not the same with that of the Yorubas.

Well what you have posted doesn't negate anything I said except you just feel like arguing baselessly. Relationship doesn't necessarily mean a positive one. And that's the reason for my question. But all obviously share same ancestry. whether its the Yoruba from Edo, or Edo from Yoruba is an argument I won't derail this thread to.

I just need some clarity on this ikwerre and Igbo issue from an objective person. Is their relationship more of Yoruba/Edo or Yoruba/Ilorin cuz obviously, one is closer than the other in today's outlook but all probably have same origin.
And by the way, is Onitsha really bigger than Port Harcourt? Google map says something different tho.