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What happened to d earliest church, where possessions were brought and shared among members ( d less privileged)? All what most Christians of today know is to b sober or believe to receive favor from ppl, even when they don't know d source.
They will even give testimonies abt it. Lazy Christians, we av wat it takes to build nations but too bad, we r been misled. Pastor wait patiently for tithes, offerings, vows and pledges to enrich theirselves and buy wat won't last for d less privileged. Collate all dis money, build industries, build places where ppl can work and earn living.reduce unemployment , than for u to b milking gullible ppl for ur benefits. Unna jus dey preach theories rather than being practical. Lubbish brainwashers.

What happened to d earliest church, where possessions were brought and shared among members ( d less privileged)? All what most Christians of today know is to b sober or believe to receive favor from ppl, even when they don't know d source.
They will even give testimonies abt it. Lazy Christians, we av wat it takes to build nations but too bad, we r been misled.

Not convincing at all, call me ur senior pastor. U shy away from main point.

CAPTIVATOR:
I get your point bro.

But Forced Love or Heartfelt love... Which would you prefer ?

God want us to serve him with our " power of Reason " Romans 12:1 i.e deciding for ourselves to love him NOT that he made us machines.



Let address the bold.

Death refers to a state on non living or non existence . as evidenced by Genesis 3:19 where he told Adam you are dust and to DUST you shall RETURN.

So not that he brought death but rebellion to him means someone prefer to be nonexistence that live. So in that case , Presenting life and death means , if you love the GIFT of life, obey this instruction that will guide and make your life meaningful dear , but if you feel nonexistence Or the state you were before you were born is better , then you can decide to live anyhow you like and forsake the guide I gave you

CAPTIVATOR:
Good question

AS I explained earlier ... God Almighty though having the power to know. DOESN'T USE THAT POWER TO ERODE OUR FREEWILL , its called Self control - Gal 5:22,23 one of his qualities.

This is very evident from what he told Jeremiah when he ask him to go and warn the Israelites , he said "
MAYBE the people will listen this time. And IF they stop doing wrong, I will change my mind and not punish them for their sins. " - Jeremiah 26:3

Take note of the Use of " Maybe " , " IF " display that he doesn't choose to use his power to foreknow or override their freewill , instead he choose to watch as event unfolds. The point is he has Self control

good one, but we never asked for d free will?!
Let say u created a Being, and u now place life and death before d being, u automatically av ulterior motives, and wia did u even got d option of death (evil) from? Jus cari am commot from d being dat is naive.

U av a baby, u placed water and fire before d baby, d baby will definitely test d two, no matter ur warning.

CAPTIVATOR:
All this is base on a WRONG premise that God saw it all coming. Not at all, he has one quality called Self Control . Self control means having the power to do something but restraining oneself from doing it.

This was made clear when he asked Abraham to sacrifice Isaac , after stopping Abraham from harming his son, he said and I quote " Do not harm the boy, and do not do anything at all to him, FOR NOW I DO KNOW that you are God fearing because you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me " - Genesis 22:12

Emphasis on " Now I do know " . showing he restrain himself from knowing the outcome and allowed Abraham make a choice.

Good evening

Pls explain d attribute called omniscience, and wat d Bible said as I am d almighty God, the one that knows the end from d beginning!

iamdrfresh:
exactly

everything here is fun to him

For someone who has the ability to change people's mind, maybe he's even the one turning people against himself

He is oooo, I can remember a part in d Bible where he said to Moses, he will harden d heart of Pharaoh and won't let d children of Israel go, then he(God) will punish Pharaoh and Egyptians for that.


This is a post I want pastors to come out to defend, but u won't see dem since is not issue of � money tithe, offering, pledges, etc even those money they accumulate from congregation supposed to be used for betterment of people (church) but wat u see dem doing most is to build more physical structures and enrich theirselves than to build ppl up.

Hundredfold4lif:
You are a satanist and a living fool!

Without cogent reason u r calling him satanic, u r sick. Challenge his points and not to com out here with ur dull brain if u can't present ur facts.

Nice one bro. U r wise.

If I created man, and he acted against my will, I know d end from the beginning. I would just destroy d man and woman or the Satan, than allowing it to spread for so many years and unto so many generations. after destroying dem, I will create d ones that will do according to my heart desires. God knows wat he is doing he is enjoying the movie we are acting down here.