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Maximus69:
You're right because all the creature existed in his thoughts before he began creating us, both man and beast! Ecclesiastes 3:18-20
So we can say since it is his breath that sustains all living creatures, we've being existing before our appearance on earth BUT not conscious like after we were created! Genesis 2:7
Please, we existed only in his mind not as creatures both animals, birds, fishes and of course humans. None of us existed anywhere but in his thoughts!

Tanx

deltateam:
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How this one wan be nah?

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Maximus69:
None existence!

What do u think if I say we were actually existing as breathe of God, if I'm to go biblical.
God made man from dust of the earth and breath into it and it came into existence and at death, the life giving breathe returns back to God it's origin and d body returns back to d dust.

OK, so where were we

Maximus69:
Of course it comes with a feeling, but it's much more than that!
Because there has never been a born again before the coming of Jesus, and it's ONLY amongst his followers that God will select the born agains, they have a special duty which makes them connect one another, they don't accumulate material things neither do they think of inheriting nor leaving anything for supposed progenies!
Before anyone can become part of them, such an individual must first accumulate lots of info regarding the true God, Jesus and the purpose why these persons are special in God's arrangement. That is why their baptism is double unlike all others who must be baptised once! John 3:5
And after acquiring all the info and doing other necessary things, God picks whoever he wants amongst them so IT DOESN'T DEPEND ON THEIR EFFORT! Matthew 20:20-23
Please can we concentrate on the main topic?

sonmvayina:
we are Gods having a human experience....or walking a human path....

Are sinners going to eternal fire?

Maximus69:
BORN AGAIN?
Don't tell me you believe all those gibberish that churchgoers carry in their brains just to deceive one another!
Well, born agains aren't supposed to be married because they'll soon become spirit persons, leave the earth and go to heaven where there is nothing like marriage! Luke 20:34-36 compared to Matthew 19:10-12
So i'm sure my well informed sister won't even wish to partner with a BORN AGAIN who wouldn't live with her forever on earth in the flesh! Psalms 37:29, Matthew 5:5
Moreover it's obvious you don't even know the meaning of the term BORN AGAIN!

Please Sir, why not leave that for now so as not to digress from the main topic 'where were we before birth?' or if i may rephrase it 'what is the purpose of life?'

@ bolded, I feel so most times I'm born again not to have anything to do with d opposite sex concerning Marriage.

Maximus69:
Your intention was to buy her heart over with manly charm and other forms of intelligence men often use to get a lady, so how did it go? You can have her body which is also what every other male like you beholds but her heart you can't reach! Some calculative ones may even go as far as allowing you to explore her body just for what she needs in you but her heart is far away from you! It's when you're prepared to take the relationship to another level that you'll realise how much you worth before her!
Unlike most churchgoers, if you're handsome,got a well paid job ,carry a Bible,start going to church, join a group within the church and playing church songs referred to as gospel music in your apartment , you're set to catch any lady in ANY other religious group claiming Christian!
But All that is nothing before a REAL JW. Songs of Solomon 6:1-13
You need much more than that to reach her heart!
That is what i call INEXPERINCE!

I was not using anything, but good heart to woo her, my born again mind. Gbam

Maximus69:
You shouldn't have done that!
Nobody is a complete angel, NOT in this system filled with miseries and ever challenging demands
To illustrate, imagine a barren desert where everyone is looking for means of survival, you're one and all trying to get a partner for assistance.
Some have gained enough info regarding the desert will some are misinformed yet some are like complete novice travelling along with the crowd.
Do you think a well informed traveler will ever want to partner with a novice? Surely not, each right thinking traveler will be targeting another traveler more informed to be his/her partner! 1Corinthians 7:39
No one will like to partner with a traveler who is lesser or totally void of adequate info regarding the desert!
Sorry about that!
Now that you know the value of your abandoned study, will you look for a means to resume or will you forever forgo the opportunity of acquiring the useful info needed while still traveling along the barren deserts?
SHE WILL NEVER WISH YOU TO BE HER PARTNER ON THIS JOURNEY! Remember she is also a traveler looking for means of survival!
Wooing is done within those who are adequately competent and completely equipped for the journey! 2Timothy 3:16-17
That's a rule you must understand, otherwise you'll have problems getting along with a novice and worse of it all a misinformed traveler who will start quoting the Bible out of context!
KNOWLEDGE is the accumulation of useful information!
WISDOM is the practical applications of accumulated info for lasting benefits!
You really needed both now before any JW could think of partnering you in the journey of life!
What she did is wrong anyway! but i'm sure it's because she knew you are inexperienced that's why she quickly seize the opportunity to exploit you!
Good morning Sir!

Inexperienced IN what sense Pls?

Maximus69:
For further information on how to participate in glorifying God along with over 8,000,000 TRUE Christians globally, contact Jehovah's Witnesses in your neighbourhood, tell them you will like to study the Bible!
Whoever is not with us is against us and whoever is not with us scatters. Matthew 12:30
That is why you will never see any religion claiming Christian as a united global family except JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! John 17:20-23 compared to 1Corinthians 1:10
God bless you!

I used to study with JW some years ago till I wooed one of ur ladies and she started doing me d way some worldly girls treat ppl, then I stopped welcoming Jw, since d sister could not guide me right but toyed with my heart

Maximus69:
He has finished everything that has to do with sin and death the very moment he gave out his last breath that faithful day, that is why he could say 'it is finished' John 19:30

But before the benefit of what Jesus paid for is gained all evil doers must be removed first, otherwise they will continue to cause pain for the good ones. Luke 19:27
So that is why we must sound the warning globally that Jesus has paid for what brought us sickness and death, whoever wants to enjoy all the benefits must change their way and comply with whatever Jesus says is right, otherwise they are as good as dead! Luke 9:60
That day, Jesus promised a criminal that the man will be with him in Paradise, of course that man was ready to start taking instructions from Jesus before he could admit Jesus as a king! Luke 23:42
So he will be resurrected back to life here on a peaceful delightful earth when all evildoers are gone!

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Maximus69:
He has no such thing in his mind Sir! Jeremiah 19:5
His purpose is for humans to live forever before they chose to do things there own way. Genesis 1:27-28, 2:15-17
This is what led to all that we're experiencing till now including DEATH. Genesis 3:17-19
So he promised to bring back to life all those who willfully decides to bring him glory as they stood firm for his righteous standards. But as for any one causing pain or making others cry, they will returned to none existence! Psalms 37:7-11 Proverbs 2:21-22

I love that.

when Jesus came he went to take d fang or pang of death, but we still die, Pls can u explain to me why Jesus did not totally eradicate sin dat causes death.

Maximus69:
That may surprise you!
Because going by the statistics of our GROUP it's less than ratio 1-1,000 earth's inhabitants that is truly bringing him glory!

So with dis stats, do u think d loving God, as d Bible term him, will burn d ones dat didn't do his will in everlasting torment or unquenchable fire 4eva?

Maximus69:
It is not about Nigeria Sir, it is a global phenomenon!
Our leader commissioned a teaching program that must go round the globe before taking charge of the whole system! Matthew 24:14 compared to Act 1:8

Just trying to use Nigeria as a case study. Where in d world has d teaching not reached at d moment?

shadeyinka:
You don't exist at all.
It takes a union of a specific spermatozoa and a specific ovum to produce an entirely new body, soul and spirit being

how did d 1st ovum and spermatozoa com into existence

Maximus69:
Answer!

State of TOTAL non existence!

But if you care to know the Bible's answer regarding your question, it simply stated that 'God{an intelligent spirit being who claims to be SUPREME} proceeded to form the man out of dust and breath into his nostril the breath of life and man became a living person' Genesis 2:7
The same process brought all other creatures so all of us have the same breath like an electric supply activating our body. Ecclesiastes 3:19-20
Therefore whatever affects any creature {be it man or beast} to the extent of a damage that's beyond repair result to deactivation of their bodies rendering them lifeless! Genesis 2:17 compared to Ecclesiastes 9:4-10
So we are from nothing and at death we return to nothing!
Our only hope of returning to active life again rests in the hands of the one who CREATED us out of nothing {Psalms 104:29} due to our virtuous works he desires to see us do such things again and again {Job 14:14-15} so he promised to bring worthy ones amongst us back to life {John 11:25} but as for those whose life brings him no glory he will forget them completely and they will NEVER exist again! Psalms 37:7-11, Proverbs 2:20-22
God bless you!

How many are truly bringing him glory?

Maximus69:
That was before i started studying the Bible, but today i am one of over 8,000,000 advocates of the Bible claiming that there is no WISDOM outside God's word {Bible}

You need not worry over what scientists are saying due to misinformation coming from religionists who claims to believe in the Bible, all of them are misrepresentations NOT students of the Bible, they're just building their ideas on human traditions and philosophies!

God only reveal the secret to a GROUP and whoever refuse to associate with this group can NEVER grasp anything worthwhile in the Bible, because the words will confuse faithless intellectuals but whoever humbles himself/herself amongst them will find out that he/she has nothing as in NOTHING to say to challenge the WISDOM found in the Bible!

Today, i have received intensive training from the GROUP so i don't even need quoting the Bible before any unbeliever will start realising the superiority of the WISDOM i possess now! But if such a person now agree with the authenticity of the Bible, then it makes it lot easier to prove that there is no knowledge that surpasses what is found in this old book!

How many ppl in Nigeria do u think God reveals his secrets to , and why has this not been applied to d society to make it a better place, or u r comfortable with what is ongoing in Nigeria.

Maximus69:
As a military intelligence officer, i worked side by side with astronauts at times so i had the chance to asked them few questions, and this is the result i got afterwards!
There are nine planets in our solar system, some are too hot due to their closeness to the sun evaporating all the liquid on the surface into gas, while others were too cold due to been too far from the sun freezing all the liquid on the surface. But the earth which is just 93,000,000 miles from the sun is just at a PERFECT distance allowing the liquid on the surface to remain as liquid!
There is NO life object found on all other planets whereas earth is filled with creatures both in the air,land and water!
The earth is the ONLY planet having just one moon while others have several moons!
Only the earth has what is called atmosphere {thick layer of gases mainly nitrogen and oxygen} protecting the surface from too much heat or cold, serving as a guard against huge objects moving in space that could hit the surface of any planet, but if such should accidentally hit the atmosphere, the thick gases will continue to rub against the object until it vanishes! And if anything is left that penetrates our atmosphere what remains will have been reduced to a tiny, harmless object before it reaches the surface!
Only the earth has the gas to sustain life of creatures, for instance the trees breath in carbon dioxide and breath out oxygen, while moving creatures breaths in oxygen in exchange for carbon dioxide making everything balanced!
Our waters have tiny little organisms called phytoplanktin, this anti pollutants always secrete antibiotics into our waters to destroy all kinds of pollution found in our waters!
And humans are the only intelligent creature found on the planet!
There is no scientist that could explain how all these came to be just exactly what is needed to sustain life, so i agreed COMPLETELY with a book called BIBLE which opening words says 'in the beginning God created the heavens {all what we're seeing in the sky at night} and the earth' ! Genesis 1:1
This book even goes on to say 'as for the heavens they belong to JEHOVAH{the name of the spirit who claims to be SUPREME} but the earth he has given to the sons of man' Psalms 115:16
No wonder my astronaut friends can't survive for long on any of other planets they've been to except the only one prepared for humans 'EARTH'! Genesis 1:27-28

God bless you Sir!

This is great, but r u sure d Bible is 100% accurate?
Read this :..

https://americanhumanist.org/what-is-humanism/reasons-humanists-reject-bible/

Maximus69:
As a military intelligence officer, i worked side by side with astronauts at times so i had the chance to asked them few questions, and this is the result i got afterwards!
There are nine planets in our solar system, some are too hot due to their closeness to the sun evaporating all the liquid on the surface into gas, while others were too cold due to been too far from the sun freezing all the liquid on the surface. But the earth which is just 93,000,000 miles from the sun is just at a PERFECT distance allowing the liquid on the surface to remain as liquid!
There is NO life object found on all other planets whereas earth is filled with creatures both in the air,land and water!
The earth is the ONLY planet having just one moon while others have several moons!
Only the earth has what is called atmosphere {thick layer of gases mainly nitrogen and oxygen} protecting the surface from too much heat or cold, serving as a guard against huge objects moving in space that could hit the surface of any planet, but if such should accidentally hit the atmosphere, the thick gases will continue to rub against the object until it vanishes! And if anything is left that penetrates our atmosphere what remains will have been reduced to a tiny, harmless object before it reaches the surface!
Only the earth has the gas to sustain life of creatures, for instance the trees breath in carbon dioxide and breath out oxygen, while moving creatures breaths in oxygen in exchange for carbon dioxide making everything balanced!
Our waters have tiny little organisms called phytoplanktin, this anti pollutants always secrete antibiotics into our waters to destroy all kinds of pollution found in our waters!
And humans are the only intelligent creature found on the planet!
There is no scientist that could explain how all these came to be just exactly what is needed to sustain life, so i agreed COMPLETELY with a book called BIBLE which opening words says 'in the beginning God created the heavens {all what we're seeing in the sky at night} and the earth' ! Genesis 1:1
This book even goes on to say 'as for the heavens they belong to JEHOVAH{the name of the spirit who claims to be SUPREME} but the earth he has given to the sons of man' Psalms 115:16
No wonder my astronaut friends can't survive for long on any of other planets they've been to except the only one prepared for humans 'EARTH'! Genesis 1:27-28

God bless you Sir!

This is great, but r u sure d Bible is 100% accurate?
Read this :

https://americanhumanist.org/what-is-humanism/reasons-humanists-reject-bible/

sonmvayina:
science and spirituality...has always gone hand in hand...it is the dumb religionist that separates them....we are spiritual beings just trying to enjoy human life....Ecclesiastes 12:7 and psalm 104:29-31...sums it up.

Thanks, so what happens to d spirit that goes to God? ( remember that spirit is d life giving breathe God breathe into d man, the breathe is part and parcel of God)

sonmvayina:
science and spirituality...has always gone hand in hand...it is the dumb religionist that seperates them....we are spiritual beings just trying to enjoy human life....Ecclesiastes 12:7 and psalm 104:29-31...sums it up.

Thanks, so what happens to d spirit that goes to God? ( remember that spirit is d life giving breathe God breathe into d man, the breathe is part and parcel of God)

aaronson:
You don't need to believe the big bang for it to be true but you only need to work overtime and be flexible enough in your thinking to disprove the fact that it never happened by going against every laws in physics. Secondly, You also don't need to believe in evolution even though it's still taking effect and man lifespan on earth is too short to observe the changes.

I'm not science based, I may not comprehend as u do.

aaronson:
No man or woman created the planet, Not even a God because he is non existent.

The planet has been and will continue to be due to entropy and planetary bodies making up the complexity of the universe as a result of cause and effect of the big bang. As long as the sun continues to burn life on earth will continue to blossomly reproduce. And as long as human is encapsulated in entropy he will forever reproduce till he dies, the moment he dies, entropy stops, then gets buried he still would be useful to earth to produce food for other human alive and even if he wasn't buried, he still would be food to the vultures and other animals either ways, a dead body is still useful for the survival of the living.

One thing you need to realize is the universe is under no obligation to make sense to you, she doesn't even care about human existence. God is just man made up word to cover up for the huge dept of ignorance of how the universe truly works.

I still find it so difficult to believe d big bang or evolution stories,

If truly it was big bang, how could well designed beings, animals,beautiful plants, planetary bodies came into existence. If it was big bang, why has another big bang not happened since d first, so we can see, that we all came from big bang.

aaronson:
You are a God and your child in the future lies in the bossom of your semen. Simple biology.

If u say so, then wats ur belief abt the one dat created man, the planet and more so the man(u referred to as God) whose semen cannot make woman pregnant.

helinues:
Each religious leaders wrote story that suits them.

That's why Christians have Catholic, Anglican, Redeemers e.t.c
Muslims have Sunni, Shia, Tijaniyat, Ansarudeen e.t.c

Nigeria for example, each regions have their own version of what transpired during the civil war..

U r endowed with knowledge.

helinues:
No accurate records of afterlife.. May be when we captured real alien or probably find life in one of the Trillions of planets .

The books referred as holy books were written by human being like us. The story line could be to favoured their personal egos.

In 1,000 years to come, Trump, Putin , Obama, Gadaffi, Sadam Hussein e.t.c would also be in a book , We won't be there to verify the accuracy of the story.

For real.

Even every religion has its stories of creation of man,
which differs from that of other religions, how do we now trace d hidden truth about our existence.

MyVILLAGEpeople:
The same line I have been hearing. So one will now burn in fire forever because of the short time he lived on earth and in a world full of sin.

It baffles me.

Helinus stated,

helinues:
No record.. Same when we die

helinues:
No record.. Same when we die

This is wonderful

OtemAtum:
There are afterlives for animals, etc but it's not necessarily heaven or hell. Nothing ceases to exist, but all things change realms and states.

I love this

OtemAtum:
There are afterlives for animals, etc but it's not necessarily heaven or hell. Nothing ceases to exist, but all things change realms and states.

I love this

SLAP44:
Not every time.

The spirit is willing but the body is weak.

Truth, so will it be good for God to cast is into hell fire in d end of days?

MyVILLAGEpeople:
I have asked this same question several times without any reasonable answer. Even d Christians on this forum can't answer it.

A lot are hidden from us.

iammo1:



just like gravity, spirits remains in the reals non explore-able to our modern day science