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Vision101:
Apart from wealth, UK is a small country by size compared with naija.

There are bigger countries with databases though.
Size shouldn't matter but having an organised system.

We don't even know our actual population size.

Dtruthspeaker:
You don't need to let us know for can all see whatever is there to see and assess/reassess whatever you or anyone claims to see. And after due assessment, see all make our comments from there.

In all, in all, what we all are telling you is that you people swallow up everything your church tells you without proper and due scrutiny. I do know that it was a principle/law of your church that people should not question the church of which this even goes against the natural law of verifying any information we are given. Even the things we were taught/told in school we still took time to verify them. So how much the things of life and death where even the Bible asks us to test all information. Hence after all our own personal tests we submit it to public tests and verification to be further sure of our findings.

And that is why we all here are telling you the same thing which is that you guys are wrong and are doing wrong

Now, let's start from here - you are already making a big assumption - swallowing sef to use your own word.
Let's go by your logic, Why do you even believe in the bible at all? What gives you the confidence that the book of hebrews, James, 2 Peter, Jude,2 John, 3John, Revelations should even be in the bible ( disputed even in the 3rd century). Why don't you belive in some hindu book that is likely older, or a Shintu or Buddhist book? Islam also has its claims.
From other debates, you will hear the spirit allowed me know. But we know what the fruits of this private interpretation/ so called verification via sola scriptura approach has led - countless denominations with differing beliefs. Abeg, which one is your church so I can situate it in history. If pentecostal, their doctrines are novel and unknown to historical christianity, abi it's Methodist, baptist, Presbyterian, Mennonite, Anglican, JW etc, we know how they started and the differing beliefs.

Re. bolded, Catholics do not just swallow everything they are told. Catholics submit to the ordinary magisterium of the church as Jesus set up an authoritative church with the power to bind and lose. You may dispute matters but once a matter has been declared as doctrine/dogma, there is no further questioning and that's the way it's always been. - see Acts 15 for example.

How exactly did the bible tell us to test things? give exactly detail. Now tell us how you will test the validity of the books of the bible I mentioned before. Even any of the gospels for that matter via this public test. Next, please tell us whether the consecrated bresd and wine become the actual body and blood of Jesus. Then, whether baptism is regenerational.

Your post is filled with a lot of assumptions and taking things for granted

Bluntemperor:
Oga,Rest,I beg!
•If not for the Evangelism of the Pentecostal Churches in Nigeria and Around the World 🌎,the Catholic is for Pope- were not really having the Spirit and God Works by the Spirit, according to Ezekiel 37(1-14)
Catholic believe in Mary,Rosery and Statute - so when all offering are remitted to Rome,who are they Accounted to?
Unfortunately,many of you don't know how the Church is run.

You really think so?! After food don done 2000 years later. Which church do you think carried the faith across centuries, councils, conflicts and hard decisions. which one held the faith through the fall of the roman Empire, the spread of Islam and the loss & recovery holy sites. Not to talk of the preservation of scripture, the work of missionaries globally, the development of christian teaching. you are wrong in your characterisation of the catholic church notwithstanding the strengths of pentecostal churches.

Now, let's correct your absolute incorrect assertion about offering to Rome to stem the spread of falsehood. Catholic parishes globally only send offering to Rome once a year through a specific and voluntary collection known as Peter's Pence. This is the only regular collection from parishes that goes directly to the Vatican. All other offering stays within the parish and diocese and fully accounted for. Please do some research before sending out false information

Dtruthspeaker:
You were the one who raised the issue of reading so your raising further issues on what Jesus intended makes no sense. As the bible is a representation of the records and Words of Jesus which is gleaned and obtained from reading which every literate individual can interpret of which whatever interpretation he obtains he usually presents it for scrutiny and confirmation or correction so as to get a re-education.

So, whatever anyone interpretes is always subject to verification of confirmation or correction. Which is why in this you and your group are being criticized and corrected

You don't quite get it as you're still approaching the christian faith from a 2025 mindset. You and the other poster advDNA have alluded to the Catholic church not letting people read or having to read within church tradition or mystery as you put it and my responses have been to let you know how christianity was set and how Jesus intended the faithto be passed on. basically the faith could not have been built on each person's private interpretation 2000 years later as most couldn't even read for 1500 years. Even where people could read they still needed church guidance(I previously gave the example of the ethiopian in Acts

You said people interpretations are subject to verification and confirmation , but where?

the bible didn't cfall out of the sky, there was aldres

If you research church fathers, you will see how they understood the faith. They did not treat doctrine as a set of private interpretation. They taught what they had received. Consider your own interpretations on topics like infant baptism, the eucharist as the actual body and blood of Christ, baptismal regeneration. Do your interpretations match up with what has been taught for centuries .

Nobody says people can't read the bible, the question is whether your interpretations match the faith that christians held for centuries

Dtruthspeaker:
Even us in Nigeria could we read in 1901? But when we all could read, could we not still appreciate any period whether pre colonial period or pre Socratic period?

Or did you not hear that
The more that you read, the more things you will know. The more you learn, the more places you'll go." – Dr. Seuss

"To read is to voyage through time." – Carl Sagan

“A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies . . . The man who never reads lives only one.” -George R.R. Martin

Please, your argument no enter at all.

You talking as if the current widespread literacy rate has anything to do with how Jesus intended christians to understand the faith. For more than 1500 years fewer than 10% of the population could read. Yet you are adamant that Jesus set up a system where every person, most of whom couldn't read was meant to decide the full meaning of Scripture on their own.!That doesnt match history and it doesnt match the NT process of a church that teaches, safeguards the faith and settles disputes.

You're avoiding the basic fact that Jesus founded a church. If you claim to follow his model, can your own church be traced back to the one he established?

As you're using 21st century mindset to decide what bible teachings / interpretations are, how about a secular example,the Nigerian constitution. Even though most can access it easily and read these days, are you really saying each individual can decide to interpret as they see it? Talk less of a faith established 2000 years ago

Dtruthspeaker:
Are you still in the era when you cannot read? In church and crk were we not taught many things that we thought was in the bible only to later read the Bible to see that it was not there and vice versa?

Or in school were we not taught that the constitution is the highest law in the land only for me to grow up reading more to see that the constitution is itself unlawful and that Natural Law is the highest Law in the world?

Please, your argument holds no air.

Please think, the majority could not read until relatively recently. How could each individual making their own conclusion about the bible could have been the way Jesus set things up! You are reading things through 21st century mindset. How about the christians in the 1st 1500years? What did Jesus say about the church he set up and to the apostles ( Sending helper, he who hears you hears me etc - please see entire NT context)

advanceDNA:
Oh....so Its to avoid confusion........but Mary is still co redeemer abi??
Mary that was telling Jesus to come home with her when he was doing the will of the father ....Mary that ddnt understand what the son came to do.....Mary Jesus had to rebuke that those who does his will are his mother and father ....is the same marry y'all are calling co-redeemer of souls??

You may disparage Blessed Virgin Mary all you want and come up with these warped interpretations unknown to early christianity .

Effectively the title is a theological definition to show that Mary cooperated with ,obeyed God to allow the Incarnation of Jesus.

Dtruthspeaker:
Like jws the church tells them how they should read the Bible in the church's eyes.

It's the year 360AD, majority of the population cannot read, you have never heard Revelations or Hebrews read as some places hadn't even received them due to disputes. Please tell me exactly these people were meant to have learnt about God's teachings. Do you really think everyone carried a bible about up to 400 years ago? In this context, do you really think Jesus would have established sola scriptura?

The church is what he set up to go out teaching and as the pillar and bulwark of truth and the power to bind and lose. Please read about the Ethiopian in Acts 8:26-31 and what he said about understanding scripture and needing a guide!

advanceDNA:
Lol....u need the pope to interprete "thou shall not kill to you"...u need the pope to interprete the words of Jesus to you....

I know the history of the catholic church....they tell you yall are too unworthy to know God, too unholy to read and know what's in the bible...
The Vatican kept the bible locked away for years even from your own members......only the priest and Pope claim to know killing those who disagree the pope is not father...
....u can know the one ine father yourself or u can stick with your father the pope and mother Mary ...

You've got it all wrong. Jesus set up a church, the church was guven authority to bind and loose. (Please research what this means). Please Tell me how for the 1st 1500 years when the majority of people couldn't read how they so called read the bible. How did they understand what the teaching was. Do you really think everyone went around with a bible in their hand?
Please tell us what has now happened since every protestant/evangelical is their own pope.
What is the name of your church out of the mulitple thousand competing with differing teachings from sola scriptura ?

Also please could you let me know which church/cheistians it is that existed 2000 years
that is not the Catholic church.

advanceDNA:
Lol......Their pope just release new update different from the previous pope....

btoks how far......if I told u yesterday that the bible said that Jesus is the only redeemer and Mary nothing to do with it......u will say my interpretation is false.....
..ur pope has release update that the whole christian knew since 2000 years ago except you Catholics
..... Y'all have been claiming Mary is co redeemer.....very soon y'all will soon start saying Mary is greater than God ....

Unfortunately, your erroneous adherence to sola scriptura doesn't let you understand howvthe church has worked for 2000 years. Even the bible that you currently reference had to be canonised by this same church you vilify. Where there are disagreements or unclear doctrines, the church comes in to clear things up just like it did on the judaizer issue in Acts 15.
There are so many teachings you take for granted now that had to be clarified by this same church centuries ago.
Try doing some research

By the way, try reading the document released by Vatican on the co reedemer matter. Co in this case and in historical use was meant as supporting the main person not equal to as modern ears might think. It's use has been discouraged in order not to create confusion.

advanceDNA:
I ddnt interpret anything....go and read the bible on your own u will see it clearly written what I said..m.no need of any complex interpretation......u are just lazy
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..just as it is written clearly "though shall not lie" ....it was clearly written that Moses was told to build the tabernacle like the exact one he was shown and it was clearly written that Jesus entered that heavily ark by his blood to reconcile man back to himself..

The problem with y'all Catholics is that u don't read the bible.....

I've already seen by your tone of responses that it's not worth debating you as you will just resort to words like ' you are lazy' etc. I do you something before?

Tell me where we are to make our own individual conclusions or interpretations of what's in the scriptures? You think you know better than those closer to the time?

advanceDNA:
lol....u are the one claiming Jesus that's already God needs Mary to first be holy to prevent him from being corrupted.......but I'm the one second guessing what God did.....u funny man

lol.... U Catholics are weird ppl....u created a mother figure because there Jesus introduced to us God the father......Mary isnt even above Jesus in a anyway .....so painting a mother figure of her over jesus and all believers is the highest form of absurdity.

Scripture ddnt present her in a way for you all to tag her as holy mother of all....yall Catholics are carnally driven..you are just creating a mummy and daddy figure that God ddnt present us.....He is the father and wants a Son relationship with us... There is no mother in the equation....

ur knowledge of scripture is poor.....and it's because yall never read but only listen to the lies your vatican tell you..
.Go and read the books of the law and the teaching of Paul about the ark of the covenant so u can cleanse urself from this absurdity..

..the old testament clearly explains how Moses was told to build the ark of the covenant and tabernacle just like the original in heaven he was shown .....just as blood of unblemished sheep was shed in the copy for sins repeatedly, Jesus shed his blood for in reconciliation of man back to God entering the ark of the covenant ....the blood of Mary or flesh or wateva is not in the equation..
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You are reducing the Altar in the of presence Almighty God with your carnality by claiming Mary is the ark....may God forgive you pple

it is a principality level of of fallacy trying to deify Mary...she's not holy mother to any one.....

Jesus clearly rebuked her, when she was overly trying to carnal that "those who do the will of his father her his mother, brothers " as she was always trying to limit jesus as just her biological son that should be with her and her other children at home

lol... Its against sound scripture to call Mary the ark....it's tantamount to blasphemy.....I cannot believe against what is already written ..... That's how y'all created Pope out of no where as holy father to also representing Jesus ...yall are just bunch of weird pple

I'll take the teachings of the historical church of 2000 years witht the fullness of truth over your 2025 warped interpretations. Nuff said. Been there, done that.

Do some research and find out exactly why teachings including pope, even biblical canon are the way they are.

Dtruthspeaker:
Even if you go by the sanctification of the Ark, it stands to record that no one worshipped the Ark, so also no one should worship Mary.

Secondly, we saw how the Ark was sanctified, and by the Law, we can presume that Mary and Joseph are people who complied with the Law of sanctification and holiness as seen by their trips in going to Jerusalem.

Therefore, since they complied with God's Commands, it is only natural that God would use them exactly how He used Saul and David before they messed up and Esther too, so there is no big deal here.

We've likely debated before, the fact is catholic, orthodox do not worship Mary as we've stated countless times. Worship (Latria) is given to the Trinity alone and you can see an exampleof this in the catholic mass. Prayer /request for intercession (even with pious flowery words) alone is not worship.

Mary is venerated with hyperdulia /given honour, just like the original Ark was. All the other saints are also venerated. Where some peopls might cross the line due to overzealous piety , the church corrects that. E.g. you may have read that the vatican has recently discouraged the use of co-redemptrix for Mary as it could cause confusion if not explained well

As I've stated before, God decided how the incarnation was to happen. It is clear that the OT ark imagery is fulfilled in the NT by Mary, which made her a unique case. She was greeted , Hail Full of Grace by angel Gabriel . And mother of my Lord by Elizabeth. These are not casual titles.

That is why the ark typology matters. Once it is recognised, the honour given to Mary is not an invention but a response to what God has done.

advanceDNA:
Exactly....Joseph was not part of the equation.. because both Mary's egg and Joseph's sperm was not part of the birth ....

.If God first needed to first make the flesh holy for Jesus to not be corrupted of sin?? Then why exempt Joseph from the equation in the first place, when both Joseph and Mary could have been holy father and holy mother, and Jesus would have come the conventional way and still uncorrupted, ......which would have saved Mary the embarrassment of being thought to have slept with another man before her marriage to joseph ....??

See... Y'all Catholics created a need for Mary to first be made holy so u can have holy mother because Jesus revealed to us Holy father... But such need is a clear a fallacy because Jesus was the embodiment of the holy Spirit, not a product of the corruptible means of sex....

The church works from what God actually did, rather than 2nd guessing what He might have done with Joseph etc. God chose the manner of Jesus' incarnation and early christianity recognised Marys role as the Ark of the new Covenant. The theological conclusion can be seen feom  the way scripture presents her with several undeniable parallels in the NT compared the OT . Or do you think Luke was making the parallels by accident? (Compare 2Sam 6 2 -11 to Luke 1 35-56)

If you acknowledge Mary as the ark of the new covenant, it would be easier to understand the immaculate conception you currently disagree with. If the original Ark was prepared with care and sanctified for the presence of God (Ex 40.9). wouldn't it be fitting fornthe NT ark to have similar treatment or even better. Thisnis the catholic church teaching in immaculate conception of Mary

Obviously, youll need to accept the ark typology to better understand the catholic church teaching.

Outthemudbyvoke:
I have seen better from those who traveled to Asia, Europe and even the USA. So you are basically emphasizing my point. Money is tight in the UK hence they are prudent in spending

I know we are derailing a bit but I'll just say you're making a big assumption about people who've travelled to Asia, Europe and US being effectively able to spend more money in Nigeria. In fact, this depends on the individual, some may have more disposable income than others, some just like to show off and struggle afterwards, some work 2 or 3 jobs and save just to spend in Nigeria. This is common across all developed countries including UK.


Also, income doesn’t automatically equal spending power. Yes,US incomes are generally higher than UK but so are their expenses. incomes in Europe and living costs tend to balance out similar to UK and people in Asian countries have lower incomes . So it would be presumptuous to generalise that people from these countries can spend more in Nigeria than those from the UK. Personal finances vary widely, regardless of country.

By the way, prudence is a good trait.

Outthemudbyvoke:
I don't even fancy the UK, most of my relatives living in the UK for many years come home, yet they miserly as hell. Don't get me wrong I don't need their money but they have got this conservative culture imbibed in them. I don't want such life so you all can keep your visas

So when you travel to UK, you can can throw your money around anyhow? What you mistake for miserly is actually prudence. They still need to go back to pay bills and credit card debt, this is the case in every developed country, oyinbo no send you message. Don't let anyone fool you about some big money that can be thrown around. They usually need to go back and work their butt off to regain as Nigerian holidays are not cheap.

Sccarrr:
Mtcheww... overrated country

Please confirm how it is overrated?

Zocalite:
You like innuendos too much

They tell you Bible was canonized to a tradition, you believe, it's non of my business, cos it has no relevance to my relationship with Jesus Christ my saviour

But

What if a Hindu man said the same thing about their own personal relationship with their god, saying they don’t care what anyone else believes? How would you respond to that?

Why do you trust the bible in the first place as it didn't drop out of the sky. How do you even know why Hebrews, Mark, Matthew, Luke with anonymous authors are part of the bible?

Na crk you study abi na seminary you dey?

Lol, let's just say crk was a good start back in the day.

43Ronin:
But the same apostle Paul said in his letter to Timothy that Jesus is the only mediator between man God ( not Mary or his fellow apostles ). Even when a believer hailed Jesus's mother saying blessed is the womb that bore him and the tities that he sucked Jesus said rather blessed is the one who hears and does his word that such person is his mother, brother and sister(luke 11, 27-28). Bro flee from the catholic church you are very far from christ. You are better off in traditional religion at least you know whom you worship

Need to see the wider context of the passage, please read the entire chapter.  Its all about intercessiry prayer made possible by the one mediator,Jesus christ. The saints are not excluded from being intercessors and praying for us.

Also Jesus wasn’t dismissing His mother’s importance. He was showing rather that she was blessed because of her faith and obedience, not just from being His mother. This is early christian teaching

So if he flees from the Catholic Church, where exactly would he go? Could you name your own church?

Zocalite:
Lolzzzzz

Tradition of church

Lolzzzzz 🤣

As you laugh, it may be worth remembering that the bible itself was canonised through same tradition you mock.

HydraFeeds:
Not every cases like deaths etc that happens in US make it to the news or statistics the same thing happens everywhere in the world .

In Nigeria for instance ,every kidnapping, killings etc that also make it to the news are considered in data entry.

Mo where in the world is data cumulation accurate ,now you believe that Trumps claim is wrong but you don't believe that opposition claims in Nigeria is wrong ? Is that not double standard?

Every terrorists attacks for the past three months that made it to public news are considered in data entry.

The US bury more data than Nigeria that's why their CIA always declassified data several years later if they want ,a recent popular case is the Epstein file that has not yet been declassified so if you say that EndSars etc ,that maybe Nigeria is trying to bury the data ,there are eye witnesses there ,while there's actual shooting(perhaps shooting blanks) to scare away people and people are hurt ,there's no report of single death ,we are in digital age and it's very hard for the government to control the death that was captured on camera .

few reports might be classified in the us or uk sef for national security reasons, but the bulk of their data is publicly available and verifiable. In Nigeria, the problem is much deeper.We can't even trust basic national figures so crime / election data built on that foundation can’t be fully trusted. It's so glaring that our figures are no good but people just get on with life regardless. Our weak justice system doesn't help matters to address issues honestly without yeye tehicalities - re opposition claims

HydraFeeds:
There's no assumption in data analysis,the reason AI added that caveat is because Nigeria has lower figure than the rest .

But data analysis depends on the quality of data collected and unfortunately our systems still miss a lot, plenty crimes even go unreported. Personally not reported a number of crimes against me.
To date, government disputes killings at Lekki End sars, witnesses say otherwise.

HydraFeeds:
Good observation ,so UK and US own is not as reported?

Of course they are as reported but assumed to be accurate thus no need to add the 'as reported' phrase. For Nigeria, ai has clearly added the 'as reported' phrase to show that the figures are from limited and uncertain sources and likely not accurate.

HydraFeeds:
But US that Trump claimed he was rigged out is not data inconsistency?

How's data cumulated ? There are organisations that track every number news on news and news is not a closed source system.

US data reports are highly accurate, whether or not Trump contests the results. They have verifiable systems and recounts when needed. Can you honestly say the same about Nigerian elections? You and I both know most Nigerian data is unreliable and often manipulated.
What are the actual figures from all the terrorist attacks the last 3 months sef, how about End Sars killings, kidnappings?

HydraFeeds:
So US and UK are accurate but Nigeria own is not accurate lol .

Had it been that Nigeria number surpassed that of UK and US ,you would have believed.

No, you can't rely on the bulk of official data out of Nigeria. Known fact. Population figures, crime data, voter register, election results, census figures, public spending records, unemployment rates, inflation numbers, health and education data, even some politicians’ academic or professional histories etc. Too much inconsistency and politically influenced.

HydraFeeds:
Every country has its own challenges and we can't say oh US is the best country in the world therefore people shouldn't die from accidents .

US is gun killings why UK is Knife killings.

Even ai had to include a caveat for the Nigerian figures as 'reported'.

[quote author=HydraFeeds post=137253458][/quote]US and UK figures are highly accurate at least 99% confidence level.
How accurate do think the Naija figures are?

Originalsly:
I guess this is the heart of the thread. If you skip over the meaning of emerged you would be exactly where you are on the Catholic Church . The hundreds of various 'churches' we have today have emerged from other churches. Each has gone its way with its own doctrine ... none the same as the church they emerged from. The Catholic Church is no different ... they simply emerged earlier. Don't expect them to be the same ... they do their own thing ... using the Bible as a base ... adopting what they want ... twisting what they want .. leaving out what they want and adding what they want. If one is ok with their version ... their doctrine then one should feel free to join up. If one isn't ok with it then he should find another "church" or like many others ...start their own .

So if the Catholic church only emerged earlier as you state, could you please let us know which church it emerged from. Surely it must still exist plus their historical records and writings?

Every so often, another Catholic basher turns up with their blah blah list. Una never tire! The church has been bashed for two thousand years and still stands. These untruths have been debunked countless times.

If you’ve never been to the Holy Land, I beg you to visit. You’ll find that almost every holy site is run and cared for by the Catholic and Orthodox churches. The real custodians of the Christian faith, in effect, have always been these apostolic churches. What would you do when you find that the worship of God at these sites differs from yours? How do you think Christians actually worshipped in the early days?

The faith itself(even the Bible canon)was established through countless discussions, councils, and disagreements.) Yet centuries later, people still throw out one line untruths to attack it. None of this has ever shaken the Church, and it never will. It keeps growing steadily, and maybe one day OP and others will realise that all the bashing is pointless.

Christianity in the Bible cannot be separated from how it developed over time. Please do a bit of research to understand the practices before condemning them.
pls note the church is the adversary of satan and doesn't carry out satan processions. It invests deeply in the rite of exorcism and in training exorcists. Many non-catholics don’t even realise that cases of serious demonic possession in their own churches are often referred to the Catholic Church for help.

PlayerMeji:
And there was the sonic boom!

Yes o, but they could only do that over the ocean as I understand

CoronaVirusPro:
Hi

But you know private schools outperform public schools? Don’t tell me about standards cos me and you know they are expensive and not economical.

But saying they are on same level with public schools is false. Same applies to healthcare.

Yes private schools generally outperform public /state schools in many metrics, however ,the gap is minimal and public schools compare favourably or are better in some areas.
The fact is the UK system is designed to have more places in public schools and standards are generally high

it really isn't essential to send kids to private schools in UK to receive really good education. Obviously if people can afford to they can. some private schools fees are up to or exceed average annual salaries. A country's educational strength is not defined by how many private schools students attend but by overall quality and outcomes of the public school system.

With regard to healthcare in UK, the main difference between NHS and private is waiting time. You can access treatment quicker within private but standard of care and expertise are the same. Most private doctors also work within the NHS.

CoronaVirusPro:
You are not making sense here. Do Foteign staffs get paid same way their counterparts in UK and US are paid? How possible is that?

So Chevron should be paying $100K plus to Nigeria engineers because their counterparts earn above that in the US.

Hello! It’s not done like that anywhere in the world and major reasons company outsource jobs.

Professionals are living good life in Nigeria. Built and own rental properties and vacation at will. Theybare not suffering.

They send their kids to top notch private schools and don’t have to settle for public.

What life do you think someone in the UK can afford that some Nigerians cannot afford? You generalization that we all suffering is false and baseless.

When I visit UK, I am always searching for all this successful people you talk about. Always in stuffed up somewhere they call home in neighborhoods they can’t even reside in Nigeria.

Same UK? Lekki phase 3? Don’t start please.

People don't settle for public schools in Uk. Public schools are set at a standard to ensure quality education and outcomes comparable or better than private schools. Attending private school is not necessary and is only done by choice as per my previous comment. Government officials send their kids to these same public schools.

What particular neighbourhoods in UK are you comparing to the ones in Nigeria as I believe every neighbourhood has access to basic amenities? You also need to look again when next you travel to UK for these successful people, they are everywhere but not loud (and don't need to be loud as UK is culturally different). Successful people access the same infrastructure as those not as successful. That said, you'll find successful Nigerians in so called highbrow Mayfair, Chelsea, Belgravia, Hampstead etc plus plenty outside London. House styles are differwnt and are not all as big as some Nigerian ones due to weather, culture, planning- but there will be access to gas, water and electricity.