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MaxInDHouse:
First of all the word "WHERE" implies a PHYSICAL LOCATION while heaven is not physical but as for hell it simply means common grave!

What do you mean that heaven is not physical when there are uncountable chapters in the religious books called the Bible where Yahweh CAME DOWN from this same heaven.

MaxInDHouse:
Empty atheist!😃

So this is what makes you a god shey?

Ọmọ humble yourself and learn! 😂

Ok,
We want to learn. Where is heaven and hell located?

TheMadame:
So you did not see all the religious books from the Bible,Koran and the Hadiths I quoted,or you just want to be mischievous as usual?

You had better ignore that busybody-know it all named kobojunkie. Her reputation is well known on Nairaland.com.

Back to the theme of the thread ,which is the location of heaven and hell?
I doubt anyone can tell you anything reasonable on these issues because it is almost impossible to get any empirical evidence about the location of heaven or hell. In fact I would proceed further to say that you would get more information on such issues from Ai,on the Internet or from Wikipedia than on Nairaland.com, where many people are still locked in a religious cage of fear. Most of them will ignore a thread as curious as this thread. Or will attempt to derail the thread or even ask you to DIE,first so that you can experience the location of heaven or hell. Yes,some of them can be as illogical,narrow minded,and petty like that.

Anyone with a basic open minded knowledge of the Bible ,Quoran and other religious books would see instances where gods and religious beings are said to descend and ascend the heavens. These books were written by primitive men with no scientific knowledge. These people believed the Earth is flat and so the sky which is above is the heaven where the gods and spiritual beings reside. That was the extent of their knowledge and understanding which they masqueraded as the word of the god(s). For instance,the book of Isaiah 66:1, where the Hebrew god declares, "Heaven is My throne, and the earth is My footstool."
Personally I doubt if there is any place,called heaven or hell. All these a creations from the minds of men,in order to subjugate and control other men. The funny thing is that mind control still works on many people in 2026.
Deconstruction of the mind is very important to escape the shackles of religion.

patrickmuf:
Well, it was heated at that time but it is long gone. I am sure we all want the best for the club, so let us rather look forward to the team doing well...

Then you had no logical right to come here this morning to speak in a condescending manner to people not allowing divergent views when you are guilty of the same practice in the past.

We are all United supporters in the end and all probably want the best for the club in the end.
No hard feelings. Cheers.

patrickmuf:
The dude that was blocked, knows why he was blocked. It's all arguments and counter arguments but when a supposed adult comes to the party with insults and snide remarks, he leaves you with no option than to use the block button for what it is meant for.

Me and you were on the opposite side of that argument but we still chat here.

You are lying through your teeth again and I actually do NOT know why I was blocked by you as you claim,because my original comment was never addressed at you. You jumped into my comment with INSULTS,all guns blazing because you perceived I was making a comment against your then hero.
Retrace your steps to the date and quotes in question and see who started snide comments and insults.
You will find out it was you that started insults and snide comments because you felt I had slighted your hero,Amorim.

It is never an offence to retrace your footsteps after an error but why I came out this morning to expose your hypocrisy is because you came here this morning to in a condescending manner,cast aspersions on people not allowing divergent views,when in actual fact you are one of those on this thread that does not tolerate divergence. You can deny it all you want. You can spin it all you want but your own posts bear you witness. I rest my case.

patrickmuf:
Diggerman, don't throwaway your shovel just yet, have you not seen that I later turned against Amorim?

I was consistent in my opinion, for me, I believed that Amorim needed at least a pre season and a transfer window to get his preferred players to play his style. When he was given the opportunity but failed, I didn't stick to my position for fear of your opinion of me, I called for his sack. You can dig if you want to or choose not to see it...

Arguments should be backed by sound logic. Amorim did well enough at Sporting for us to give him a chance with his own players before demanding for his head...

Why I find your guys argument tiring is that neither side will change places and Amorim is long gone. It is pointless to keep going at the opinions people held with so much energy and drive. To what end?

Lol....
That you later turned against Amorim is acknowledged. The point is that at the time of the posts quoted,DID YOU ALLOW A DIVERGENT VIEW?
No,you did not . Rather you bullied me over my comment and tried to impose your own own idea on mine. When I pointed out Ruben Amorims flaws in a longer post,you decided to block me and gleefully told your followers that you had no desire to read such comments.
The question once again is,DID YOU ALLOW A DIVERGENT VIEW ON THE ISSUE?

patrickmuf:
This thread!!!

Na to carry koboko enter here, flog anybody wey start unnecessary argument.

Respect for divergent opinion is a thing...We all must not agree...Now, I just read and pass...

Guy,
Stop the lies. You are one of the most intolerant posters here. Stop trying to make yourself happy. You are one of those opposed to divergent views on Amorim and gleefully informed your fellow Amorim sexuals how you blocked all divergent views here while your fellow Amorimsexuals liked your comments and hailed you.
You are not any different to the others.

Goosethetruth:
Bilge rats creeping and scurrying out of their dirty domains. They were all hoping for a United defeat at Stamford Bridge, so that they could pollute and pontificate their ignorant rubbish all over the pages of the thread.
It is to their eternal shame,how silent the thread is after the win against Chelsea.
The reds go marching on into Champions league football next year to their eternal and never ending shame.

You are doing well by exposing their hypocrisy. See how the place silent as if somebody die.
🤣🤣

Manchester Utd went to a hostile away ground and came away with a massive three points and fans are still complaining?
Maybe it would be satisfying if United played well and lost the three points at stake.

Cunha
Goal.

Goosethetruth:
Lol....😁😁😁
Hilarious.
Most of these numpties suffer from Dunning- Kruger syndrome.
Screaming at the top of your voice does not prove intelligence or the fact that you even have the faintest idea of the topic you are discussing because cognitive dissonance doesn't even allow you to understand what you are watching.
I am glad some of you numpties are finding your voice after days of loud silence. I could almost imagine your brain cells creaking as you composed your missive. What a intellectual Lilliputian.
What a tale told by a coward,who is afraid to mention my moniker,signifying absolutely nothing!!!

We can not forget the abysmal performance no matter how hard they try to gaslight the thread.

Goosethetruth:
He is one of them.
Do not let them gaslight you.
It will take you ×2 + the bullshiit×2 for you to dislodge their propaganda.
Never allow them to gaslight you. Be awake at all times.


Brandolini's law states that~

"THE AMOUNT OF ENERGY NEEDED TO REFUTE BULLSHIIT,IS AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE BIGGER THAN TO PRODUCE IT".

Lol....😁
He said it is Seun and his Bots that are bullying people and shouting down those against Amorim.
Amusing.. .😆
This is why I seldom post here. A group of dullards have taken over,posting propaganda. Shouting dissent down.

Apparently an argument is right and correct if the argument is loud,noisy and abrasive.


DON'T BE GASLIGHTED!!!

Nobody said interim manager should be given his own players. The qualifying term was IF HE IS APPOINTED AS PERMANENT MANAGER,then he deserves to sign his own players so that he has a fighting chance to execute his own program.

LostMyZeal:
What do you mean by 'His players'. And what exactly is the current's style of play and what kind of players do you think would fit in?

I remember months ago people like you were yapping about how we need to try 4231 and that the players would fit in perfectly. Now you say they're not his players

Are you kidding 😂

These were the kind of excuses given for Amorim. Carrick equally deserves his own pre season and his own players.
I just find it funny the total disrespect shown to Carrick since he assumed office. The disrespect has come from the some of fan base as well as a group of former players whi have constituted themselves into know-it-alls.
These same pundits all failed woefully as managers at various clubs in different countries.
It is ironic that those complaining that Carrick is not an elite coach,all lost their tongues when Amorim was almost sending the club into the abyss of relegation.
Now there is a manager in charge,winning games and putting points on the table and complains are still coming in on style of play.
What do you want exactly? Is it for the team to play fancy football and continue losing or the get the job done and put points on the log table?
I asked you,who would you recommend to take over as manager in the summer but you cleverly dodged that question and replied with various questions of your own. You should throw your hat in the ring and give us your candidate for the job if Carrick is not good enough.

I wonder how this fan base can ever be satisfied? For the first time in a long time Manchester United have a healthy + goals difference. They are third on the log with 7 games to go. They might even chase down City in second. He is doing it with the players that the fan base termed as "USELESS PLAYERS".
Who can satisfy such a toxic fan base?

Bombblacks:
Nothing in our style of play is convincing me regarding Carrick getting the job long term. Apart from the first two games against City and Arsenal we have not actually been playing that well and this is despite playing once a week. What is going to happen when he has to juggle champions league and other competition simultaneously and less time on the training ground? He's getting results which is very good and has done well in stabilizing the team but if they are better options in the summer he should leave.

The question you should ask yourself is,are they his players?
He is getting the job done with Amorim's pot of concoction soup. It is not Carrick's pot of soup.
There are consistent wins except for the Newcastle hiccup. Would you rather United play poorly and win games OR dominate games and lose? Bear in mind Carrick was brought in to restore stability amidst the Amorim chaos.
Who do you suggest, should be appointed to replace Carrick. Everyone should put their hat/choice in the ring because right now I am on Carrick 100% Anyway you are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.

The biggest mistake Manchester United can make this summer is to get rid of Carrick.
It will be amusing watching the United board sack Carrick and then hire some greasy haired tactician because his name ends with,"eski".

It will only be a matter of time before de javu comes back to haunt INEOS and United have to pay another hefty pay out and then begin the vicious circle of looking for another Carrick to steady the boat.

If it isn't broken,don't try to fix it...

Give Carrick his pre season. Get him the players he wants. Give him a rolling season long contract. Set him a target. Let's see where the team is by the end of a full season.

Newcastle have been on a poor run recently. They have at least 7 players out on various forms of injury and sickness. They have a Champions league game in a week's time. I think the odds favour United in this game.
United to steal the three points at stake.

nitrogen:
Flowers kor, trees nii. The team’s performance on the pitch is the only metric for determining a manager’s impact. Meanwhile, the sale and purchase of players were/are done by his employees. He had several other players in mind, but they said no, I believe that’s one of the reasons he remained stubborn which eventually got him sacked.

Better follow him to Portugal. No dey whine us for here.

Thanks for this timely response. Amorim’s fans keep trying to reverse history of a few weeks ago.
Amorim was a terrible coach who thought he was Jose Mourinho when in actual fact he was a low budget version of Andre Villas Boas at Chelsea. A fly who regarded himself as a bird. So arrogantly full of himself.
A few weeks ago when Manchester United were playing Newcastle,Amorim tried Dorgu in the midfield where Dorgu performed very well but by the next match Amorim reversed and returned Dorgu to the defence.
The sins of Amorim are just too numerous to mention. Amorim’s fans should just keep quiet and let his disastrous legacy fade into the horizon.
Michael Carrick may not have won a league title in the sub standard Portugal league but he is head and shoulders above Ruben Amorim in man management, tactics and football intelligence.

I will never understand this manager. 3-1 up and he is changing like for like defenders. Why not go for Wolves jugular. Score goals and build up your goal difference?

Thats better.
1-3
United

Amorim always has the senseless propensity to upset his defence line in every game from the 70th minute!

You have acquired a goalkeeper who calms the defence in Lammens then in your ultimate wisdom you decide to disrupt the defence with ridiculous needless changes.

In the end the team was hanging on until Mbeumo's last grasp winner.

Any way 3 points in the bag. On to the next match.

Mbeumo. Thank you.
4-2

There was no need for those ridiculous changes made by Amorim in the defence line.
This buffon of a referee Anthony Taylor is probably looking for any excuse to award a penalty in the dying minutes.

De javu.
3-2

Welbeck goal.
3-1.

Dorgu??

Goal.
Mbeumo.
3-0

Sesko should be hitting the target there.

Casemiro.
2-0

Cunha.

One of them even said that Kanu's offence is bailable.

That was when I realised the kind of jokers that constitute the Abia state house of assembly. Apparently the are just voicing emptiness and probably intend to proceed on an excursion to Abuja in order to exhaust their budget before the end of the year.

Neil Warnock is throwing his hat in the ring for free.
INEOS this is disgraceful....
What a mess.


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