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Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible 101 For Dummies. by Caveatemptor(op): 9:57am On Sep 24, 2023

jaephoenix:
I don't even think you read the Bible. Its clearly written there. If you don't know, tell me and I'll show you the quotes

You need to ignore some of these posters as I usually do. It's just not worth it. Many of them are so deluded and brain washed that you just can't make them see reason no matter how hard you try. It's like hitting your head against a brick wall.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by Caveatemptor(m): 9:52am On Sep 24, 2023

harlee:
The bible isn't confusing, it's the devil by means of doubt, using your own created standard (English language) to keep you off balance.
Now read through
"And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for chariots"
The forty thousand horses are for chariots only,thats a different department/arm of his convoy.
"And Solomon had for thousand stall for horses AND chariots."
This writer didn't tell us the number of chariots but we know it to be forty thousand.
God bless your understanding .

Oga,
Does this thing you wrote make sense or sound reasonable to you. A book by a deity. Why would God inspire a man to write one and inspire another man to write two of the same issue?
Maybe you would care to explain why the resurrection of Jesus story in the four gospels are so DIFFERENT?

Christianity Etc › Re: Which Of This Four Different Bible Is From Christ? by Caveatemptor(m): 9:37am On Sep 24, 2023

Have you heard of the devil's Bible? It actually exists,with a picture of the devil on the centre pages. The oldest preserved medieval Bible.
It is called CODEX GIGAS.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by Caveatemptor(m): 5:41pm On Sep 23, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
Guy i'm not your problem so if you won't accept the Bible that's your own cup of coffee you can't stop others from believing in God's word neither can you stop me from teaching interested ones.

So if you truly want to have a meaningful discussion just tell me exactly what you want to know here and i will address you like a real gentleman but if you're bent on insulting your audience i will leave you with them!

You are a fraudulent character. We are talking about alphabets(ABC) but you will twist and be talking of numerals (123). Where is the correlation?
Like I said, I have taken enough rubbish from you for one day.
Phew!

Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by Caveatemptor(m): 5:34pm On Sep 23, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ since you and i aren't there the only way to figure out the truth is the BENEFIT gained.

If someone say your great grandfather was a blacksmith but none of his descendants practice such a profession it may be difficult to agree that you had such a person as ancestor.
But what if you now find some of his children whose lineage has become experts in that field surely it will make no sense arguing that your great grandfather never existed.

Jesus is the promised Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} and according to what is found written in the gospels his disciples will serve as evidence that he existed {Act 1:8} so if by today a big and happy family of peace loving worshipers suffice on this same planet and they are using what Jesus taught to accomplish this then whoever say Jesus never existed should tell us how come a global family of peace loving worshipers came about in a world that's filled with violence! Revelations 6:3-4

Jesus never said it's the record of his story that will serve as prove that he once walked this planet rather this is what he said:

"But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:8

Ọmọ use your brain nah!

If Jesus' story was fabricated did the fabricators also force millions of people from different geographical locations on this planet to agree with their fabrication and live as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers in the name of Jesus of Nazareth?

Guy with the emergence of Jehovah's Witnesses there's no further need of scrutiny Jesus is a real historical figure!

You keep arguing round and round in circles. Your arguments are so infantile that I sometimes feel ashamed for you.
You are arguing based on blind faith and emotions. Never rationality, never engaging your brain. Just going round in circles based on myths,fears and delusion fed you since your birth. We are having an argument on the reliability of the accounts in the Bible and then you start quoting the same Bible we are disputing it's authencity.
I think I am done with you for today there is a limit to the amount of rubbish I can take from you for a day.
Phew!

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by Caveatemptor(m): 5:24pm On Sep 23, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
No wahala i just want to advise you but since it's getting on your nerves please do whatever you like, it's your thread!

There is no advise you can give me,rather I would advise you because where your knowledge ends is where my knowledge begins.
Instead of arguing with me argue with the anonymous unknown writers of your religious book. I quoted and referenced passages from your so called book of a deity showing support for misogyny, rape,human sacrifice, destruction of entire civilisations,looting,incest,stealing,murder and soft pornography amongst many other vices.

Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by Caveatemptor(m): 3:54pm On Sep 23, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
According to the Bible each writer signed by his own personal name so if you heard another thing contrary to this just calm down because neither you nor i nor the one who told you nor the one who told me lived 2000 years ago when all these things were thought to have happened.

Having a discourse with you is just an exercise in futility. It is like talking with a personality that lives in his own parallel universe. It is like banging my head on a concrete wall because you always argue in a circular way.

So because me and you were not born 2,000 years ago,we cannot arrive at the truth or a semblance of the truth? This your circular argument even shows the bible to be untrue and a book of falsehood since me and you were not there when the book was written. You see how senseless circular reasoning leads to anarchy because it means any book written before anyone is born cannot be investigated or verified.
Once again,"You are a fraud!" None of the gospel writers was an eyewitness to the stories they wrote. None of the names of the writers on the gospels are real names,they are pseudonyms. Mark was the first written gospel which Mathew,Luke and John copied and embellished with material from other sources. This accounts for the contradictions and differences in the stories.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by Caveatemptor(m): 3:23pm On Sep 23, 2023*

MaxInDHouse:
If you want response from intelligent individuals then address them well!

You are a fraud .
For dummies is basic English language that even an imbec1le should know the meaning....
What kind of people am I having a discourse with for Jupiter's sake??
I like debating theists but not dumb theists. Religion section used to have some intelligent debaters,but now we have people like Mad max alias 69,who is so illiterate he does not know that for dummies, means SIMPLIFIED!

For Dummies Definition
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Meanings

Adjective

( FOR DUMMIES audience, simplified .
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Wiktionary

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by Caveatemptor(m): 3:17pm On Sep 23, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
You want humans like you to engage you but you referred to them as "dummies"
Are you wise or foolish?
If you see someone by the road side calling:

"Idiots! Idiots! Come here i have questions for you!"

No matter how stupid you're will you respond to such a mannerless caller?

This is why I always call you a fraud. Any one with an iota of sense knows that any program labelled, "for dummies. " is NOT an insult but a learning program.

For Dummies is an extensive series of instructional reference books which are intended to present non-intimidating guides for readers new to the various topics covered. The series has been a worldwide success with editions in numerous languages.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Really Omnipotent? The Omnipotent Paradox by Caveatemptor(m): 3:04pm On Sep 23, 2023

Can God restore virginity to a woman who has lost it? undecided

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Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by Caveatemptor(m): 3:01pm On Sep 23, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
Matthew and John were two of his friends whom he called "apostles" both of them penned down what they saw him did and heard from him!

This is why I always say,"You are a fraud!"
You know what you are writing is false. None of the four Christian gospels bear the real names of their writers. They are only pseudonyms. The writers of the four canonical gospels are all unknown. The leaders of the early Christian Church choose to ascribe names of disciples to the gospels for reasons best known to them.
Desist from these lies!

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by Caveatemptor(m): 2:47pm On Sep 23, 2023

jaephoenix:
I opened such a thread but all they gave was gibberish

Here is the thread that I opened on the issues. They all ran away or pretended not to see. Those that chose to engage were only being insultive and abusive. No answers to the thread becauseI quotedspecificbible passages.

https://www.nairaland.com/7841230/bible-101-dummies

Politics › Re: Hypocrisy Of Peter Obi by Caveatemptor(m): 8:26pm On Sep 19, 2023

mrvitalis:
I have only one watch for the past 17 years

Now u judge

Men like this should never be allowed to hold power

Funny how those who opposed Obi as governor are now all obidients!

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Politics › Re: Prophecy Coup Against NIGERIA by Caveatemptor(m): 10:10pm On Sep 17, 2023

okeysoninv:
In the year 2024 . Be ready for bloody revolution and coup by NIGERIA army. The corrupt politicians shall witness wotowoto in the hand of army. #prophesy.

You are a fraud and a false prophet!

Foreign Affairs › Re: A Coup Is Taking Place Right Now In Republic Of Congo by Caveatemptor(m): 10:00pm On Sep 17, 2023

The peddlers of this fake news including the false prophet okeysoninv don't even know the difference between Congo Brazzaville and Congo democratic Republic.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.thecable.ng/just-in-congo-debunks-reports-of-coup-attempt/amp&ved=2ahUKEwilla_nw7KBAxXfWkEAHdHsCvAQ0PADKAB6BAgnEAE&usg=AOvVaw29erbktTomJozM2M1x1AUx

Foreign Affairs › Re: BREAKING: Military Coup Reportedly On-going In Congo Brazzaville As Predicted By by Caveatemptor(m): 9:57pm On Sep 17, 2023

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.thecable.ng/just-in-congo-debunks-reports-of-coup-attempt/amp&ved=2ahUKEwilla_nw7KBAxXfWkEAHdHsCvAQ0PADKAB6BAgnEAE&usg=AOvVaw29erbktTomJozM2M1x1AUx

Foreign Affairs › Re: A Coup Is Taking Place Right Now In Republic Of Congo by Caveatemptor(m): 9:49pm On Sep 17, 2023

okeysoninv:
west Africa is Next

Oga,
West Africa is a big place. You need to be specific.
Which country in West Africa?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible 101 For Dummies. by Caveatemptor(op): 9:17pm On Sep 17, 2023

Dantedasz:
The point is are these passages in the Bible or not?
Let us for the moment forget his lunatic interpretation.

You are wasting your time responding to that air head. Talking to him is a sheer waste of time that is why I just ignore some of them when they mention/quote me. Let him argue with what is inside his so called religious book of slavery, misogyny, rape,human sacrifice and genocide.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible 101 For Dummies. by Caveatemptor(op): 11:41am On Sep 17, 2023

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible 101 For Dummies. by Caveatemptor(op): 10:15am On Sep 16, 2023*

The virgin birth.

There are so many insertions in the Bible. These were added as the writing went along. Some were added as errors of translations while others were just deliberately added to serve the writer or his groups agenda.

The authors ascribed to the books were not the real names of the authors. Names of popular figures of history were superimposed on these books as being the authors of the books. The funny aspect is Moses the so called liberator of the Israelites from Egypt is credited with writing the first five books of the Bible and even has the time to record his own death in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 34.5
None of the names on these books were the real authors and there is no evidence that any of the authors were eye witnesses to the stories they wrote about.
Paul wrote a lot of letters ascribed to him but no one of these letters talks about the virgin birth of Jesus Christ . How is this possible?
The only answer is that the virgin birth was not known to the early Christian Church. The virgin birth was a clever insertion by the later gospel writers like Mathew,Like and John- (who are pseudonyms for scribes who wrote these stories).

Mark(another pseudonym by the way) was the first gospel written and in his account there is no virgin birth story ,while his resurrection story is a mysterious ending. Mathew,Luke and John take Mark's account and embellish it greatly to suit the agenda of the church father's.

So the question is if the virgin birth did not happen, what did happen?
What myths have been inserted in this book?
Which stories are stolen from myths of superior civilisations?
Where do the lies end and where does the truth begin?

Like I have said severally on these boards,the bible is a amalgamation of myths,ascribed to a storm deity. There are a lot of embellishments. The authors were not eyewitnesses to the accounts written. The names ascribed to the books are not the names of the authors of those books. So where do the lies end and where does the truth begin?
It is sad as well as being funny at the same time that millions of people around the world allow their lives be dictated by words in an unreliable book.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible 101 For Dummies. by Caveatemptor(op): 2:18pm On Sep 15, 2023

Human sacrifice in the Bible.

Judges chapter 11 verses 32-40

Jephthah sacrifices his daughter as a burnt offering to his god Yahweh.

32 Then Jephthah went over to fight the Ammonites, and the Lord gave them into his hands. 33 He devastated twenty towns from Aroer to the vicinity of Minnith, as far as Abel Keramim. Thus Israel subdued Ammon.

34 When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of timbrels! She was an only child. Except for her he had neither son nor daughter. 35 When he saw her, he tore his clothes and cried, “Oh no, my daughter! You have brought me down and I am devastated. I have made a vow to the Lord that I cannot break.”

36 “My father,” she replied, “you have given your word to the Lord. Do to me just as you promised, now that the Lord has avenged you of your enemies, the Ammonites. 37 But grant me this one request,” she said. “Give me two months to roam the hills and weep with my friends, because I will never marry.”

38 “You may go,” he said. And he let her go for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never marry. 39 After the two months, she returned to her father, and he did to her as he had vowed. And she was a virgin.

From this comes the Israelite tradition 40 that each year the young women of Israel go out for four days to commemorate the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible 101 For Dummies. by Caveatemptor(op): 9:55am On Sep 15, 2023*

The EROTIC song of Solomon. grin

I have read the Bible cover to cover a few times and I have always wondered what the hell the song of Solomon is doing in a canonical religious book of a god?
It reads more like a soft porn or a rap song by Megan thee Stallion.
I'll leave you to go and read it and then tell me WHY WOULD CHURCH ELDERS INCLUDE THIS IN A SO CALLED BOOK OF GOD??

Snippets.

Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth!
For your love is better than wine;
3 your anointing oils are fragrant;
your name is oil poured out;
therefore virgins love you.
4 Draw me after you; let us run.
The king has brought me into his chambers.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible 101 For Dummies. by Caveatemptor(op): 9:37am On Sep 15, 2023

Joshua chapter 6 verses 24-27.

Destruction of Jericho.[mass murder]

24 And they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein: only the silver, and the gold, and the vessels of brass and of iron, they put into the treasury of the house of the Lord.

25 And Joshua saved Rahab the harlot alive, and her father's household, and all that she had; and she dwelleth in Israel even unto this day; because she hid the messengers, which Joshua sent to spy out Jericho.

26 And Joshua adjured them at that time, saying, Cursed be the man before the Lord, that riseth up and buildeth this city Jericho: he shall lay the foundation thereof in his firstborn, and in his youngest son shall he set up the gates of it.

27 So the Lord was with Joshua; and his fame was noised throughout all the country.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible 101 For Dummies. by Caveatemptor(op): 9:31am On Sep 15, 2023

1st Samuel chapter 15 verses 7-9.

7 And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt.

8 And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.

9 But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them: but every thing that was vile and refuse, that they destroyed utterly.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible 101 For Dummies. by Caveatemptor(op): 9:17am On Sep 15, 2023

Utter Destruction,terror and genocide.

Deuteronomy 20:17

But you shall utterly destroy them, the Hittite and the Amorite, the Canaanite and the Perizzite, the Hivite and the Jebusite, as the Lord your God has commanded you,

1 Samuel 15:3
Now go and strike Amalek and utterly destroy all that he has, and do not spare him; but put to death both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”

Numbers 31:18
But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.

Hosea 13:16

Samaria will be held guilty,
For she has rebelled against her God.
They will fall by the sword,
Their little ones will be dashed in pieces,
And their pregnant women will be ripped open.

Exodus 32:28

So the sons of Levi did as Moses instructed, and about three thousand men of the people fell that day.

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Deuteronomy 20:16

Only in the cities of these peoples that the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes.

Deuteronomy 15:6

For the Lord your God will bless you as He has promised you, and you will lend to many nations, but you will not borrow; and you will rule over many nations, but they will not rule over you.

Deuteronomy 13:16

Then you shall gather all its booty into the middle of its open square and burn the city and all its booty with fire as a whole burnt offering to the Lord your God; and it shall be a ruin forever. It shall never be rebuilt.

Deuteronomy 12:3

You shall tear down their altars and smash their sacred pillars and burn their Asherim with fire, and you shall cut down the engraved images of their gods and obliterate their name from that place.

Joshua 6:21

They utterly destroyed everything in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox and sheep and donkey, with the edge of the sword.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible 101 For Dummies. by Caveatemptor(op): 9:11am On Sep 15, 2023

The flood.
Genesis chapter 7 verses 22-23.

22 Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. 23 Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; people and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible 101 For Dummies. by Caveatemptor(op): 9:07am On Sep 15, 2023

More.

Numbers 31 verses 17-18.

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible 101 For Dummies. by Caveatemptor(op): 8:58am On Sep 15, 2023

More genocide.

Exodus chapter 12 verses 29-30.

29 And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.
30 And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible 101 For Dummies. by Caveatemptor(op): 8:53am On Sep 15, 2023

More genocide.

Deuteronomy 13:16
Then you shall gather all its booty into the middle of its open square and burn the city and all its booty with fire as a whole burnt offering to the Lord your God; and it shall be a ruin forever. It shall never be rebuilt

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible 101 For Dummies. by Caveatemptor(op): 8:51am On Sep 15, 2023

More.

Hosea 13:16
Samaria will be held guilty,
For she has rebelled against her God.
They will fall by the sword,
Their little ones will be dashed in pieces,
And their pregnant women will be ripped open

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible 101 For Dummies. by Caveatemptor(op): 8:49am On Sep 15, 2023

Continued.

Numbers 31:18
But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible 101 For Dummies. by Caveatemptor(op): 8:47am On Sep 15, 2023

More.

1 Samuel 15:3

Now go and strike Amalek and utterly destroy all that he has, and do not spare him; but put to death both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”

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