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MaxInDHouse:
Just imagine how intelligent you seems to be with the way you've presented your arguments only to believe the words of a prime enemy of the accused as evidence instead of what the accused said.
Do you know that the greatest enemy of Jehovah's Witnesses is the Catholic Church?
Well this further proves that you have no evidence regarding what you are saying against Jehovah's Witnesses!😟

Like I said I detest dishonest debates and apparently you are one.
I have given you SEVERAL LINKS ON FAILED JEHOVAH WITNESS APOCALYPSE PREDICTIONS but in a dishonest way you zone in on only the one front a Catholic website. What happened to the other links?


I am very used to having debates with religionists on these boards and I am used to their subterfuge and dishonesty.

First they try to use laughing emoji to lighten serious discourse.
Secondly they try to gaslight the discourse with deluberate obtuse arguments.
Thirdly they try to derail the discussion when they have no intelligent rebuttal to points.
Finally the abandon the discourse.



Right now you are stuck between stage 2-3.


My question to you Mr Maximus is,:~WHY WOULD I JOIN AN ORGANISATION WITH A PENCHANT TO CONSISTENTLY PREDICT THE END OF THE WORLD AND CONSISTENTLY FAIL WOEFULLY LIKE A BET NAIJA ADDICT?

MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmmmm!

So in a nutshell there is no evidence.
Please try to keep a record of what you want to present before coming out to loud it. You don't know how this single attempt finished all your stories.
If you don't have any evidence that JWs predicted the end of the world with specific dates yet you are typing so much claiming it happened that has really jeopardized all your effort to ridicule the Bible.

You can't go to the court of law accusing someone of a wrongdoing only to end up claiming the accused has destroyed your only evidence and at the same time expecting everyone to welcome your accusations as facts simply because you are so passionate about it!😓

Well let's go back to what we were discussing before you brought in this diversion.

Guy,
You are not getting away with this your gaslighting which is the usual tactic of all religious organisations without exception. The fact that the Jehovah Witness cult group adopted a scorched earth policy of deleting and cancelling out all evidence of their consistent failed doomsday predictions does not mean it is not recorded in other world documents records.
The reason I told you about the scorched earth policy is because you asked me to mention any edition of Jehovah's Witnesses magazines such as Awake or Watchtower that stated this and I responded that JEHOVAH WITNESS ORGANISATION HAD DELETED ALL THESE FAILED END OF THE WORLD PREDICTIONS IN THEIR DOCUMENTATION[/b]S. I like having a healthy debate but I honestly find religious people as sneaky,dishonest and deliberately obtuse during debates.

Below are records of dates Jehovah Witness organisation predicted the end of the world and failed.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_Watch_Tower_Society_predictions



https://www.patheos.com/blogs/godlessmom/2018/03/8-times-the-jehovahs-witnesses-were-wrong-about-the-end-of-the-world/



https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/11955/have-the-jehovahs-witnesses-predicted-the-end-of-the-world





Finally you may like to read the complete and comprehensive history of the Jehovahs witness organisation and their myriad of [b]FAILED PREDICTIONS FOR WORLD APOCALYPSE IN THE CONCISE THREAD IN THE LINK BELOW:~

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https://www.catholic.com/audio/cot/failed-jehovahs-witness-prophecies



I detest dishonest debates,honestly!

MaxInDHouse:
I thought you are here to speak facts not what people are saying around you.

So do you agree with what billions are saying around you about the Bible?

If you are for the truth please prove you are with evidence not what people say in your ears.

I'm telling you now that when i became inquisitive to figure out exactly what people say about Jehovah's Witnesses i discovered that it's all lies but i want you to prove me wrong by quoting just one publication of Jehovah's Witnesses where what you are saying could be found written.

You came quoting the Bible as evidence of what you read in it not what people in general are saying about the book so it's time to do the same thing with Jehovah's Witnesses Organization.

Please prove me wrong!😟

After the failed 1975 prediction for the end of the world Jehovah's Witnesses leaders and elders removed all traces of these predictions from their magazines publications like Awake and Watchtower and claimed that anyone with a remembrance if these failed predictions was a liar. It was a scorched earth policy.

It is the same scorched earth policy that Mr Kumuyi is applying in Deeper Life. This was a man that labelled Television and radio as devil's instruments and ordered all his members to destroy them. If you tell a Gen z member of that church that such were once church policies they will be arguing with me the same way you are arguing that Jehovah's Witnesses never predicted the end of the world several times and failed every single time.

MaxInDHouse:
It seems you are really aggressive but try to address issues intelligently.

I also heard Jehovah's Witnesses predicted the end of the world so i became inquisitive but found that it's all lies that's what made me one of Jehovah's Witnesses today.
Please if you don't know the organization has a magazine they use to announce their beliefs throughout the world it's called "The Watchtower"
Do you have a copy of this magazine in which it's written that the world will end at so or so date?
I will love to be your friend if you can provide just a copy or excerpt in any of their magazines where it's stated that the world will end with a specific date in mind.
I don't want to view you as a confused person because you sound so sure of what you've been typing since the start of this thread but please don't let the case of Jehovah's Witnesses render what you've been typing all these while sound like you are not properly informed!

My guy,
I only speak facts.
If you as a member of the Jehovahs witness claim that your religious organisation has NEVER predicted the end of the world severally like a kalokalo player. The latest prediction that was as recent as 1975 then I can not be of help to you.
Educate and enlighten yourself about the organisation to which you belong. You and I know that after the last failed prediction the Jehovah Witness organisation stopped predicting the end of the world openly but have been doing it surreptitiously.




Below are dates of failed Jehovah witness predictions for the end of the world.



1878 – Early Bible Students expected Christ to take faithful Christians to heaven.
1881 – A further adjustment, still expecting the rapture of the saints.
1910 – Anticipation that the end would occur very soon.
1914 – Most famous prediction. They taught this would mark the end of the world and the beginning of Christ’s reign. When nothing happened visibly, they reinterpreted it as the year Christ began ruling invisibly in heaven.
1918 – Taught that God would destroy churches and millions of their members.
1920 – In the book Millions Now Living Will Never Die! Judge Rutherford (the 2nd leader) proclaimed that the resurrection of the “ancient worthies” (like Abraham) would occur in 1925.
1925 – Explicit prediction that biblical patriarchs would return to life on earth and usher in the new world. Jehovah’s Witnesses even built a mansion in California (“Beth Sarim”) for them.
1941 – At a convention, Rutherford told Witness youths that they would never grow old in this system because Armageddon was imminent.
1975 – The most widely known modern date. Publications taught that 6,000 years of human history would end in 1975 and Armageddon was expected. Many Witnesses sold property and postponed life plans.

MaxInDHouse:
Are you human?
Do you think humans needs to be organized?

The Jehovah Witness organisation to which you boast to belong has consistently predicted the end of the world and consistently and shamelessly failed woefully in their inane predictions.
This organisation created by Charles Taze Russell is the type of organisation you ask me to belong to?
An organisation of predictions and failure like Bet Naija gamblers?

Below are some of the Jehovah witness predicted years for the extinction of the world,beginning with the founder himself Charles Taze Russell and continued and perpetrated by his successor Judge Rutherford......

How can one belong to a predict and fail organisation, that has predicted the end of the world over TEN times.



The movement has at least 10 notable dates/periods where the end of the world was predicted or strongly expected:
1878, 1881, 1910, 1914, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975, and “before the 20th century ended (1914 generation).”

MaxInDHouse:
And an organized people shouldn't be under control shey?

As usual no refuting the cold truth. No ability to deny that these facts are inside and about your religious book. Just the usual beating around the bush. Dodging the questions like the Artful Dodger. Going totally off point.
Sad.

The Christian Bible is a compendium of different books. In the early church the different books that make up this Bible and other books that failed to make the cut off mark were seperate books that were read on their own in the early Church.
In fact there had to have been at least 50 different gospel stories of the ministry of Jesus Christ.
Apart from the gospels of Matthew,Mark,Luke and John there were other gospel books such as ~
1. The gospel of James.
2. The gospel of Thomas
3. The history of Joseph the carpenter
4. The gospel of Peter
5. The gospel of Nicodemus also known as the Acts of Pilate
6. The gospel of Bathelomew
7. The gospel of Phillip
8. The gospel of Thomas
9. The gospel of truth
10. The gospel of the Hebrews
11. The gospel of the Nazarenes
12. The dialogue of the saviour
13. The gospel of Barnabas
14. The gospel of Mary Magdalene
15. The gospel of the Ebionites
16. The gospel of the Egyptians
17. The Sophia of Jesus Christ
18. The gospel of Judas
19. The Apocryphon of James
20. The Apocryphon of John
21. The Egerton gospel
22. The gospel of Eve
23. The gospel of Mathias
24. The gospel of Cerinthus
25. The gospel of Basilides
26. The Syriac infancy gospel
27. The gospel of Pseudo- Mathew
28. The Acts of Paul and Thecla

And many more books which were read in the early church by Christians before the elders of the church decided to create a Bible as you know it today to suit their control agenda.
Most of these books were labelled as Apocryphal books and excluded from the Biblical cannon. These are simple facts that can be checked on the Internet.

For instance the gospel of Thomas contains 114 sayings and teachings of Jesus where he actually teaches that the kingdom of God is in the human heart. The human only needs to seek it out and understand it which is contrary teaching to what the gospels of Matthew,Mark,Luke and John teach of an utopian kingdom of God in the heavens.
Books that did not meet up to the agenda of the leaders of the early church were simply excluded from their library compilation.
You are free to fact check me! I kid you not. All this talk of books written under inspiration of God are the lies used to subjugate your mind!
It is all mind control tactics.

Lol....
No explanation of quoted passages and Chapters in the Bible. Only Insults and infantile abuse.
Very funny.

SeeWahala:
If you know how many people this same psalms scammed that year you will weep. They all banded together and created a thread to call him out and ishilove shot all of them down one by one with alacrity, it was terrible to watch.

I put my mouth and she abused me before banning me as well, that's how all those people lost out of retrieving their money back from the scammer. Later the thread was closed and deleted.

Ask her why she behaved like that she will say it's because she had a good deal with him so therefore he was an angel and couldn't do anyone any harm.

Women . . . Mschew 😏

I was on the thread.
You don't need to tell me what that woman did. I will NEVER mention that enablers name.I witnessed it and my moniker was banned severally for supporting the truth. It seriously put me off this forum for years. I only started posting again this year
It was horrible.

SeeWahala:
The only mod I know of that was actively supporting this scammer on here 3 or 4 years ago is ishilove

That lady banned many people who complained of the scammer back then maybe because she had a successful deal with him 😕

I'm glad Seun took her off his team. She was a mistake

The fraudulent activities of the psalmz character could have been nipped in the bud and many innocent members/investors could have had their funds saved from this scourge if people like that lady had not enabled him.
I personally have zero tolerance for fraud and it was sad seeing credible people enabling fraud
I hope the OP involves the law enforcement agencies and is able to get this psalmz guy arrested because he obviously thrives on the fact that majority of his victims fail to take the issue a notch higher and involve the police.
Hope the OP can get his money back but I seriously doubt he knows what to do since he has obviously handled psalmz with kid gloves and indulged him since May to September.

Zhark007:
Nawa o......so this guy don become like this ?
I've had deal with him before and he delivered, it's a pity o........ integral failure.......make God dey save us o

Inspired motors deliver pass this psalmz before he went rogue.
@ Seyola,The sad fact is that these fraudulent activity by psalmz could have been nipped in the bud years ago when he passed off a used phone as a new phone to a fellow member of this forum but was consistently supported by people on these boards and certain moderators who hid people's posts and banned people for speaking the truth. I am quite sure these enablers are still here to defend him in his nefarious activity so my sincere advice to you is to trace him. Smoke him out of his hole and involve the law enforcement agencies.
As lovely a place as this forum is,unfortunately it is not a police station or a law court and I honestly doubt you can get your money back here.

Yhank you Bruno!!!

Jamiuokolaa:
Lool

I dont think the situation is that bad

Burnley at Old Trafford?

Haba!

We are winning with a 2 goal margin atleast.

These kinda games are not the issue.

I watched Burnley beat Sunderland last weekend. It is NOT going to be an easy game even at Old Trafford!

Jamiuokolaa:
I expect us to win comfortably today.

The issues would be away games vs mid/lowly teams then home/away games vs the top sides.

Amorim’s record does not support this and we all know this.
Already he has set up this team in his usual strait jacket formation.

Ruben Amorim has so lowered the standards at this club and so manipulated the fan base to accept mediocrity and failure as normal.
Now United are NEARLY FC or WE PLAYED BETTER BUT LOST FC.
Against Burnley this afternoon,surely he can't out maneuver himself and lower the standard even further by losing at home again....

Facts point to the evidence,that Manchester United by allowing Grimsby Town knock them out of the Carabao Cup have lost the second avenue into Europe next season. There is no way this team with this manager can ever finish in the top 6 of the Premier league. So the only avenue into Europe next season is through the FA cup.

Ruben Amorim has successfully lowered the bar and standard at Manchester United that the team was knocked out of the Carabao Cup by a team in Division 4.
It was appalling and disgusting watching the manager of Manchester United HIDING under the legs of his assistants while the penalty kicks were being taken. Contrast that with the Grimsby Town manager who stood on his two feet watching and encouraging his own team as the penalty kicks were being taken.

It was also appalling to watch Ruben Amorim fiddling with a tactics board while his team were behind 2-0 to a division 4 team.

The fact is that Amorim comes across as a very limited coach. He is tactically inept and hides behind his absurd system. He does not stand up for his players ever and every match he throws somebody under the bus. Which player would want to play for such a manager?
It is equally STRANGE that non of Amorim’s players at Sporting agreed to follow him to Manchester United which says a lot about him.

The fact is that I doubt if United can sack him right now except they sell off some players who are currently on the market. The big danger is that the transfer window closes this weekend.
The clear and present danger is the 3 O' clock game on Saturday against Burnley at Old Trafford in the league. Burnley will be licking their lips and will be up for a fight to win the 3 points or at least sneak a draw. These two results are possible with Amorim as manager.

The loss to Grimsby is in the past. The present danger is that Saturday afternoon game against Burnley.

2-0

This is horrible!

What the hell is this?

Grimsby Town have scored.
I fear for Manchester United under Amorim.

Ruben Amorim could not possibly lower the bar further tonight at Grimsby Town in the Carabao Cup or can he?

He has succeeded in playing more games than winning points in the League.
He has the fastest lose rate to 15 games of any manager.
He has succeeded in making the fan base accept mediocrity and failure as the standard.
He has thrown almost all his players under the bus. Kobbie Mainoo being the current favourite to prop up the bus.

Surely he cannot possibly contrive to lose at Grimsby Town?
However it is a possibility considering that this is a one off cup game,with no extra time and straight to Penalties at full time.
I fear for this team in this manager's hands.

adisaaowala:
On numerous occasions, i have assisted many people on these pages to self diagnose their Fanboyism ailment.

It is chronic and usually needs Tradomedical care

That is why I label them as Emotional chihuahua's. They only see what they want to see and try to shout any other opinion down. They have constituted themselves into a cult group that suffer from a form of cognitive dissonance. A stubborn refusal to see reality and the writing on the wall.
This same manager Amorim has so bad mouthed players he doesn’t want like Rashford,Garnacho,Sancho and others that no other football club is ready to buy them. Other clubs would rather take them on loans and pay £5 million fines at the end of the loan termination..
Like I said, I really fear the fate of this club under this manager because I can forsee doom and gloom in front. By the time a new manager is appointed in December it may be just too late and bridge too far.

The emotional chihuahua's who swore that Ruben Amorim was the finest thing since sliced bread are already abandoning the sinking ship of 3-4-3 only TWO games into the season.

Last season immediately Amorim claimed he can only play ONE way it was an immediate red flag. This tactical folly was immediately pointed out but they said we have a negative agenda. My only agenda is the success of Manchester United. Anyone or anything that will lead to the failure or disintegration of Manchester United will immediately lose my support.
The League Cup game at Grimsby Town on Thursday is another clear and present danger which depending on which side of the bed Amorim wakes up from could be a slippery banana skin.
I really worry for the fate of this team under the tutelage of this tactically and technically inept coach. I am really worried.

When it was shown after the Arsenal game,that Ruben Amorim has continued from where he left off last season, his emotional chihuahua's shouted everyone down and accused them of having a negative agenda.
Manchester United are going nowhere with this manager. In this Premier league I can point out at least 15 managers that are tactically and technically better than him in the way they set up their team.
The weakest link in this Manchester united team is the manager and the technical bench. I fear for this team with this manager. He has so manipulated the fan base to accept mediocrity and failure as a normal thing.

Football is a simple game but men choose to complicate it. The sharks can smell blood in the water and are closing in.....




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uapfhOhq7fo?si=TEuvqXCNgRBnREC1

Ruben Amorim's record at Manchester United.
Appointed November 11 2024.
Played 28 games until yesterday 17th August 2025.
Won 7 games
Drew 6 games
Lost 15 games.
Total points scored 27 points.

Played 28 games and got 27 points.

I have not yet looked at the goals for and goals against.
One of the fastest managers to ever lose 15 games in the Premier league. These are incontrovertible facts. Facts don't lie!

patrickmuf:
You watched the match yesterday and came here to write this?

Some of you are just sworn haters and nothing less...

Guy direct your lamentation to your small mediocre god named Amorim. I deal with facts and figures and not emotional support.


Ruben Amorim has an atrocious record at Manchester United and no amount of spin can cover it up. Normally I don't respond to people like you but I will do it this once for record purposes.

Ruben Amorim joined Manchester United in November 11th 2024.

Since that time he has played 28 league games including the home loss yesterday evening to Arsenal.

Here is the abysmal record.

Games played- 28 league games.
Won- 7 games.
Loss- 15 games.
Draw- 6 games.
Total league pts- 27 points.


If any rational person feels that a return of 27 points from 28 games is satisfactory then I have nothing to say to such an individual.


However in my little understanding of football such mediocre and abysmal record only compares to the worst managers in the history of the Premier league like Franck de Boer at Crystal Palace who played 5 games and lost all 5 games with 0(zero) points and Terry Connor at Wolves who played 13 games. Won none,had 4 draws and 9 loses.

Amorim has simply continued from where he stopped last season and there is a big possibility he will lose away at Fulham this weekend.
The figures are sacred. The figures do not lie. Without Ten Hag and Van Nistelroys points last season Manchester United WOULD HAVE BEEN RELEGATED!!!

If pointing to the cold facts of Amorim’s case then makes me a hater in your words then it is your opinion and you are entitled to it. However it doesn't change the facts that Amorim is on par with Connor and de Boer for the worst record by any manager in the Premier league.

So Manchester United are back to where they left off last season.
Amorim with his rubbish selection and mediocre tactics will be the death of this club. His supporters keep on making excuses for him while the club is sliding further down the league table.
United were playing at Old Trafford which is their home ground!
I fear for the future of this football club under Ruben Amorim. The Premier league is not the same thing as the Portuguese Premiera league. The difference is miles apart.

Goosethetruth:
It is quite amusing how Christians love burying their heads in the sand when confronted by the truth about their religious book.
The answer this guy (typing with caps locked aggressively) seeks, have already been postulated severally on this thread by myself. There is even a graphic image that shows which texts preceeded each other, but apparently comprehension is a problem.
I will only respond to people who seek to advance their knowledge. Simple.
Tomorrow the thread continues for those who desire to advance their knowledge of the origins of the anonymous gospels,Paul's letters and their influence on Christianity.

Very impressive presentation, supported by graphics and hard facts.
You are helping a lot of people to see the light that they don't want them to see.
Keep it up. Ignore trolls.

confusedlady:
Lol.....😄😁😆

Empty Biafran/IPOB soliloquy and lamentations as usual.
If this so called professor was so good and intelligent a creator,as the jobless and demented IPOB WhatsApp group members on this thread are claiming he would have been lured to the USA as a scientist. It is obvious that this so called Ogbunigbe was a glorified petrol bomb that every protester weilds nowadays. But trust our chest beating brothers to elevate a mere petrol bomb or its variant into a supersonic ballistic missile.
A few years ago on this same Nairaland the Ibos LIED and spread their vile PROPAGANDA that Phillip Emeagwali was the father and creator of the internet until their lies were exposed and Emeagwali was exposed for the charlatan he is.

There is no tribe with the propensity to twist black into white or turn lies into truth like the Ibo man while playing the eternal victim at the same time.
A very vile and dangerous set of people who lies are ingrained in their DNA.

Interesting.