₦airaland Forum

Working on paper at least. Commendable but food is still expensive and the general inflation is not abating.

This is massive....

nwirinedu:
The truth is, all the crops we buy from the North can grow in the south.

ALL in capital letters... Louder

CooldipoMPS:


Thanks to Dangote for forcing this type of discussion back into our national discuss.


The refinery were left to rot for that long and only got the needed attention now that Dangote refinery has taken their feeder (fuel importation) away.


Who will rescue us from these self seeking monsters i high places?

You said nothing but the truth... Our public officials need to be kept on their toes for the country to make any meaningful progress.

Paraman:
I expect the importation of PMS,Gas oil,Butanes and kerosene to fall in 2025

ideally, to cease totally.

Them don start with their "ultra,-modern" grammar.... Well-done all the same.

What else do you expect from A 12AH capacity battery. Even average power banks are 30AH and above.
Just dey use am dey charge phone.

TooMuchStuff:
So Farotimi was right all along

They should just release him Asap.

Ijaya123:
Now is a good time to go into rice business.



Your reality is not everyone's reality



The economy rejuvenator Tinubu is opening up the economy.

Hatred blinds.



That's what the Tax Bill is supposed to take care of. As more locally made products are available, competition will make them affordable.

Lol, how Will the proposed tax law make local products more available or breed competition? You're trying to be clever by half.

ohosi4real:
One thing I noticed in this Tinubu government about appointment. There is favorite and tribal. South South and South East are not be favored in appointment. Anyway God dey South East and South South back

They should enjoy.... Na turn by turn.

Afronighto:
I was surprised he denied involvement with IPOB ESN and their nefarious active and this shows agitation for Baifra will be a very long thing to achieve.

Past leaders agitating for their own sovereign state are known to be fearless and relentless

I've always been against grouping Kanu/Ekpa in same category with Ojukwu and his contemporaries. It's an insult to their memory.

beerfraud:
he killed some stubborn Ibos too who failed to sit at home

I won't call them stubborn... Everyone can't sit at home - there could be some health and sundry emergencies (including hunger) that would force one to come out. is shooting them dead the solution?

Okonsbecky:
THOUGH THE IGBOS ABROAD ARE HIS SUPPORTERS SPONSORING HIM TO USE IGBOS LIFE AS CONTENT.

Apt...

Nigeria is like a geopolitical fictional plot by a failed drunken writer.

That's a rat na... On a different note, I don't know if it's hunger that makes some Nigerians refer to large rats as rabbits. I know they're all rodents, but the species recognized as a Rabbit has long ears - it's most distinctive feature alongside the hare.

God1000:
Hmm, if Jonathan decides to run in 2027, it will be a big challenge for Tinubu and APC considering the poor performance of this administration, infact it's going to be a landslide victory for Jonathan


I'm sure they will try to persuade and negotiate with him

He Will only end up tarnishing his legacy, T- pain Will fight dirty and wound him seriously politically.

helinues:


Davido must have taken weed before saying that

So which president they handle his phone by himself

Suriname and Haiti follow na....

maxxx:
The press release clearly stated that the product they are selling is from Dangote..Meaning they did not refine it but it was supplied to them as finished product. So for the time being the PORTHACOURT REFINERY is not yet working.

That statement was from The Petroleum Products Retail Outlet Owners Association of Nigeria (PETROAN). And Not NNPC.

Jacobx007:
NNPCL selling Dangote pms at NNPCL refinery?
What sought of logic is this for heavens sake

That statement was from The Petroleum Products Retail Outlet Owners Association of Nigeria (PETROAN)

SCAM!!!

studyless123:
I appreciate the fact that you're practical-oriented but I'll tell you for free, even those areas you stated graduates are required, they're not. It's good to have a graduate degree if you have the opportunity and get hands-on training. A graduate is not required to be a maintenance supervisor, most of the maintenance supervisors I worked with were not graduates, they rose through the ranks and have a solid foundation of the theories behind the operation of systems.
Talking about theories, many graduates don't understand what they were taught in school but "cram theories" for the grades. Talk about adhesion, hydraulics, fluid mechanics, circular motion, eddy current, electromagnetism these are basic subjects for a mechanical engineer but 80% don't understand these subjects.

You made good points though. I agree that a maintenance supervisor doesn't always require a degree - but to climb the career ladder i.e to Maintenance manager, up to technical Manager/ director, a higher education More often than not would be preferred.
It still boils down to lack of industrial exposure.... Fluid Mechanics, for example has great applications in aerospace, naval, automotive, hydroelectric sectors, etc. So a fresh graduate that "crams" Navier-Stokes applications would ideally have somewhere to gain and contribute practically (especially in R & D and Design ). But that's not the Case here.

ivandragon:
Good. You have made my point.

You have a semi-skilled workforce to carry out certain technical assignments while you occasionally ensure the work goes on as designed to.

And I am sure that those technical people outnumber you. So you can see that as much as you are important to the task at hand, thier expertise is also invaluable.

I get your point now.

ivandragon:
Ok. On your first statement, so what area of mechanical engineering did you specialise in and what kind of jobs do you do mainly?

On your second point, I am not defending the senator's statement and I am certainly not absolving him of the leadership failure.

I am more focused on the relevance of technical skills towards industrialisation.

I'm an industrial Maintenance Engineer, with multidisciplinary experience (Electro-Mechanical, Automation) . I supervise a multi skilled team as well - from technicians/artisans to graduates. While the technicians are invaluable and efficiently implement maintenance plans and work orders , there are certain design, numerical and analytical skills that are needed occasionally especially when it comes to Maintenance planning, data-driven decisions, continuous improvement, etc. where the graduates fit in by virtue of their background.

ivandragon:
Good for you.

So why bother with the technical training if you feel blue collar skills are relatively irrelevant?

Have you designed or patented any mechanical tool or system?

Well, during the course of work, I have had reasons to redesign certain machine components that were prone to failure, which were produced in our workshop. It happens often that we even give recommendations to the machine manufacturer.


And where did I state that blue collar skills are irrelevant? It's oshiomhole that's trivializing white collar skills because of politics - trying to defend Nigeria's leadership failure and subsequent lack of industrialization. Where did he get the idea That graduates areonly good for government jobs?

ivandragon:
From your statement, you obviously still do not understand the concept of blue collar.

I studied Mechanical Engineering and I went through hands-on technical training and rose to Maintenance Supervisor (Multi Skilled) position in a large scale industry.
So,no, The concept is not alien to me in any way.

gidgiddy:
This one of the purveyors of fake news who went about saying that IPOB killed Dr Akunyili, when the man was killed when his convoy mistakenly ran into an armed robbery operation

Why defending when you were not accused?
Armed robbers with Axe and cutlasses.... Kwantinu.

Tinubu never talk agreement wey im get with Macron...

studyless123:
It's clear you didn't listen to the video. He was specific about human resources. His argument was about developing skilled labour rather than universities churning out unemployed graduates like pure water. Nigeria lacks skilled labourers.
The Dangote refinery you're speaking about if you've visited there during the construction phase, you'll understand his point better. I worked there briefly and understand that the country lacks skilled labour. There are millions of unemployed/underemployed graduates out there and you're talking about 200 graduate trainees, find out the recruitment process and many would give up easily. As a skilled labourer myself, I had the opportunity to train many graduates while I was in Nigeria. Most of them are doing very well for themselves.

I was replying another poster and not the main topic. Besides, I stated that we need more large scale investments like Dangote. The more industrialized we become, the more everyone - trades or graduates - Will find a place to fit in.

ivandragon:
Do you think it is the graduates that dangote employed that were doing the welding and fabrications?

Where they the ones operating the machinery or driving the trucks?

In the electricity sector you mentioned, do you think those doing the major field work are all graduates?

Do you even know what blue collar jobs are?

If you Read My last sentence, I wrote That of course, more Artisans Will be needed at the construction and operating stage.
Oya, let the artisans design the turbines, machineries, etc2.

Kbrule:
Are bricklayers and iron benders the ones that will industralize Nigeria?

Leave that nincompoop.... This is how someone that manages to learn how to fix I pass my neighbor Gen will be claiming he has more technical knowledge than Engineering graduates.

lereinter:
Oga nigeria doesn't lack artisans

How much is artisan paid

Even artisans no see work do, they are now doing Okada, pos, yahoo, trading, farming etc

You dey mind them? Mechanic workshops are getting scanty. Na who bellefull dey fuel or fix motor.

ivandragon:
That is a crude way of putting it, but Oshiomole is right. To industrialise, Nigeria needs more technical work force.

However, the socio-economic conditions and value system in nigeria does not give proper dignity and reward to such jobs, except on few occasions.

I beg to differ. To truly industrialize Nigeria, we need huge investments, power sector reforms and whole lots of favourable laws and policies. For example, the dangote refinery has been recruiting graduate engineers for years now and recently employed over 200 graduate trainees. Imagine what 20 of such investments will absorb. The skills graduates possess are more valuable in such industries as there are opportunities for research and development.
Of course, more Artisans Will even be needed in the construction and operating stage as well.