Even Man United's manager recruitment exercise has been concluded & the new boss knows when he's resuming. NLNG which way?

Happy long weekend.

Morning hopefuls,

Exactly 1/3 rd of a year since the last update.
Imagine receiving their “confirmation of availability & interest” email.

#WeWait.

FATHER let your will be done.

Happy AC invite anniversary!!!

Hoping not to mark the anniversary of the actual AC in this “feedbackless” state. #WeWait

majekdom2:
hehehehehe..... are you sure you got someone in NLNG. Whatever happened to hotels and suites. I repeat accommodation is never a problem for oil and gas majors when there is business to do. Who is telling you about no overseas training et all. Job location on the ad says intels. NLNG intels is in PH not bonny. Cheers mate. I hope you get in. You will learn more.

now u have reached the stage where pride will not allow u admit that u may be wrong. So u choose to be adamant.
So all engineers will live in PH. Ur ITK is glaring.
Do u believe there is a panacea for all oil and gas majors.

To be fair I just gave an angle which I know but not 100% sure it is the reason for the delay.

If it is God’s will I will get in, hope it is worth the hassle.

@Ezinne1990 hope we r moving ur market.
Weekend mode activated. Take care.

majekdom2:
Bros, this is very simple to relate. Why are most employees being laid off in the industry - No jobs/ projects coming in hence the need to save cost. No company keeps an employee they do not find useful. Just so you may know accomodation, renumeration is never a problem for a company like NLNG when there is business to do. In other words, you are saying they didn't have plans for you guys. NLNG will never give an individual feedback or tell you the sole business reason this is being delayed. I believe NLNG will learn from this. They will need to provide a platform where a candidate can track the status of his application. i.e on hold, cancelled, unsuccessful.

My smart fellow. Let just say u don’t know as much as u feel u do.

Unless it is a ploy to get more info, ur assertion is far from the truth. U ignorantly said “never a problem”. Never say never: life lesson101.
Bros, are u aware that they are constructing new residential areas and even expanding the school on the island and that the contractor did not meet the deadline for completion.
Accommodation became a problem since it seemed like they may not do overseas training as they envisaged which would have given them more time to finish the buildings and now they have to accommodate all technical guys on the island earlier than expected. Now that’s a problem.
That’s just one of a couple of issues.

So there is often a difference between what u think and what actually is, that’s why we need to hear from them.
Sorry I don’t subscribe to ur “simple relations”

majekdom2:
Ok, Many want to know why recruitment is being delayed :
http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/05/03/amendment-of-nlng-act-and-the-aftermath/
http://independentnig.com/omotowa-makes-case-for-retention-of-nlng-act/
Http://energymixreport.com/nigerian-lng-projects-threatened-by-delayed-fids/
http://www.rigzone.com/news/oil_gas/a/144164/Graduate_Recruitment_Slows_but_Still_Present_in_Oil_Gas

Unless it comes from them we can only speculate. I have heard possible rumours for the delay which are no where near items on ur list e.g accommodation and certain administrative stuff etc.
If ur list came from them then I have no qualms

NanaF:


That's the thing most people have been trying to explain.

They don't owe us a reason.

If they had explicitly said 'recruitment put on hold until further notice.', would you still feel same way?

Let's channel the email enthusiasm into looking for insider info. It's well.

My dear with all modesty I believe u r wrong and they owe us big time. We are both stakeholders in this exercise believe it or not. If at the end of this discourse 1% of people here understand this that will be great.

In some countries by law recruitment exercises expire. It is because of things like this, cos a company can be cocky and delay so they employ very experienced people as GTs. Why do established companies set an expiration for people on their wait list.

Regarding this exercise are we better off that people that have been told they were unsuccessful. If no then that's a problem in my opinion

Let me spill out my grouse with the delay, a former classmate applied for the EH position though he was some years short of experience as required while I chilled cos we got info that a GT recruitment will commence later that year.
Fast forward to 2015, he is an EH in NLNG under 30 while after waiting for 3+x years I “may” come in as a GT.
Some might say I dulled myself but I didn’t think it was right to apply when I clearly didn’t meet the requirements and I believed as a world-class company NLNG would be stricter.
So after 10 years if some people are willing to wait to become GTs good luck to them.
I’m at the peak of my career certification-wise and know that no matter how much I continue to climb in my organisation I will most likely leave if NLNG calls to become a GT ( for obvious “financial reasons”) so it is like 1 step forward 2 steps back.
Imagine if we had been employed 2 years back we would be 2 years closer to the next promotion etc.
From that brilliant person’s definition of “in due course” I need to be watchful of that phrase.
Imagine your babe saying she’s going out and will be back “in due course”
Our someone lends money from u and says I will pay back “in due course”
Now “in due course”= problem

I didn’t expect a conclusion to be reached here, I just wanted the issue of feeling privileged to get something u r entitled to discussed. Personally I will continue to find a way.
Also why will I make enquiries to NLNG and not use my name and email I used to apply. How will they know that I’m an applicant. SMH

To those waiting for page 300 it will pass this weekend like so many other pages and absolutely NOTHING will happen.
Father as always let your will be done.

dway4ward:
Who sees Nigeria as an underdeveloped nation despite its human and natural resources? Most sane people.
The proper attitude is to accept the problem exists and develop ways to fix the nation, in your unique ways.

Now the grouse of some of us, is that a large percentage see no problem in this delay and excuse it away, similar to what happens in the nation. The better attitude would have been to first accept the problem exists, and think up ways to prevent such when they get in.

Imagine this particular situation where those in there are also excusing the problem, how will they grow to prevent such recurrence on the future?

These problems that have created the scenario are cyclical except the Ebola, will this crop of people say " my recruitment took 4 years, this can be delayed "? Or they'll say " my recruitment took 4 years, such must be prevented from recurring ". The main attitudes are skewed towards the former and that therein lies the problem.

Wanted to keep mute and let this pass however didn’t want to leave the likes of @freeradical hanging since we started this journey together.
As has been buttressed severally (though it seems some folks are resistant to comprehension) the enquiry is TO GET A REASON FOR THE DELAY OR THE GET THE “BIG DOGS” TALKING not to hasten anything pls read!.
I think these folks are employees paid to douse situations like this.
In my little assessment I think most people here aren’t cowards they just don’t have an opinion of their own so they tend to follow the popular views.
@ dway4ward God bless you for the above, you are seeing the bigger picture of what is being debated here.

@majekdom2 for the sake of reasoning I choose to ignore ur subtle jabs.
@freeradical: great idea let's add more flesh to it.

@all I'm not asking that I be selected or I should resume tomorrow but they should speak to us. For example they can give us reasons for the delay (eg like they did for the elections) can't believe some people are willing to wait in limbo.

In other climes where candidates even ask and get detailed info about their interview performance regardless of whether they were successful or not, I guess they aren't elites or professionals.

A world class establishment like NLNG would not mind our polite enquiries. We need to do away with this slave-master mentality which has been built into us from our societal structure and educational system. Our leaders don't bite the worst they will do is to ignore or say no.
Typical Nigerians we love to complain but do nothing and our superiors know it. If we called for prayers everyone would start praying and even though we get an answer that says we should make enquiries I'm sure most would rather continue praying.
I believe we should be treated the same way the company will like to be treated. That's all

Regardless of the decision we reach I and a fellow hopeful will continue to make our enquiries on as many platforms as we can. I rest my case.

Father as always let ur will be done.

naastyme:
Rather than sending multiple emails with the same content and hoping it will irritate them to giving a response (to which of the multiple letters should they respond?), we should be more civil and make a more organised presentation. We could either compose a single email that represents the entire hopefuls (Capturing so in the subject, content and signature) and hope it will carry enough weight to demand a response, agree on someone to make a call on behalf of the group, or post on twitter as suggested by @Delgado47

I see the email option as providing a better opportunity and would better pass the message of a collective decision. All those who agree to participate would "put down their signatures" by providing email addresses (that available with NLNG) that would be cc in the email sent.

I would definitely be the first to provide me email add to be cc-ied after sighting and agreeing with a well written letter to NLNG.

Uncle pls what are u saying. So we will be “uncivilised” by sending enquiries?

The aim of any bombardment is to gain attention, not just being another mail in their inbox.

Personally I have sent several mails and have received less than 1 response.

Irritate them? Unbelievable. Ideally as candidates we have the right to enquire about the exercise as we pls. Even in their mails they say “For any enquiries, kindly send a mail to….”
Not saying the bombardment will work but we can at least try.
So u want to hide under the umbrella of a “group”. I hope u won’t turn out to be a leader who resorts to forming committees to solve every problem or take any decision.

May fear not dictate my actions in life.

Father let your will be done

dane15:
A lot of energy is dissipated in the expression of emotions.

Some people can be seen to vibrate literally when angry.

Energy cannot be destroyed but can be transformed from anger catalysts to energy for something creative.

This NLNG wait is a big lesson on patience and I am still learning.

At the end of the day, what will be yours in this particular context will be yours, if it is to be yours. Afterall you have no control over the process.

Well said

dane15:
Jujutsu (/dʒuːˈdʒuːtsuː/ joo-joot-soo; Japanese: 柔術, jūjutsu is a Japanese martial art and a method of close combat for defeating an armed and armored opponent in which one uses no weapon or only a short weapon.
"Jū" can be translated to mean "gentle, soft, supple, flexible, pliable, or yielding." "Jutsu" can be translated to mean "art" or "technique" and represents manipulating the opponent's force against himself rather than confronting it with one's own force.

Lesson: Use the energy from the pain of the wait for your own self development.

Kindly expatiate on the meaning of “energy from the pain of the wait ”

Where's the energy coming from?

prelinctus:

How would you feel if you were told that some people resumed recently?

Wouldn’t surprise me. Last week on their twitter handle they said they recently communicated info to those that participated in the AC, so anything could have happened.
@freeradical all ur pondering on this issue though not new are totally rational. However, all I see at play here is just Nigerians being Nigerians i.e. “they will wait jare”.
As Kaitung posited a while back, from recent reports I fear for the company’s future unless they put their acts together within the next 3 years.

By the way anyone up for twerking to mark AC anniversary? Or do we prefer e-protests?

naastyme:
I don't know if this was meant to sound like a threat or it is genuinely a statement of fact. But yeah, why don't they do that? People have sure lost their zeal for this job, me inclusive.

NLNG knows that as soon as u are selected and given an offer ur zeal will return sharp sharperly #fact

ethene:

And u think $4b is not big enough to affect a company's plan regarding recruitment?

Lol, u lost over 36% of ur revenue and someone says no shaking. Now that's positive thinking.

Last year when AC was postponed due to elections “in due course” was 2 months but now
…It is official “in due course” is greater than 3 months.
The cost of everything is just going up. 

#WeWait

Father let your will be done

Nlng2014:
First of all, I thought you were a member of the 'To hell with the codes and little info' crew?

Second of all, why do you fret over a process that is looooong concluded (EH) but choose not to worry your process that is currently ongoing?

At bolded not all concluded.

@ member of "To hell with codes" check person I just quoted (old posts) he already gave a timeline for the EH recruitment phase. This only applies to him as others had different dates..from interview to resumption.

@Nlng2014 thanks, already reviewed the EH timeline a while back however couldn’t pinpoint when the first set of EH resumed.

Sincerely I like the tag "To hell with the codes" (thanks for backspacing the rest cos I never advocated for that). I just think it takes advantage of our situation and makes us look (in my eyes) like some form of social experiment leaving some people to wander around in desperation (in my opinion). Artmedia & kaitung (cos he/she apologised lol) not involved.
I think that’s what Aphrodite4 was alluding to, however not defending her choice of words.

@ Forkadict
Accepted. Sorry for mentioning you in my post. I thought with time u will understand what I was trying to pass across back then.
Forgive my memory but can’t remember the “choice” I made. What I see is such kind of posts that invoked my reaction back then have ceased and for that I’m glad.

@all
Facts of life: things are not always as they seem and it is impossible to give what u don’t have.
Q2 loading……………..
Father at the end of this episode I pray that your will and your will alone be done in my life

My dear “This week is definitely NOT the week”. Q2 loading…..
@EHs (esp. @Forkadict) when last year were u notified of ur interview outcome. Do u know when the 1st set of EHs resumed?
Just want to see if there’s a pattern following Kaitung’s last post.
I think it will be easier to decipher “in due course” than guessing about the number of intakes.
The wait is not easy but we don’t have a choice so #WeWait
Father in the end let your will be done.

Ezinne1990:


Is this week the week? You guys should stop tensioning us ohhh

Interesting read:

http://www.nigerialng.com/Media-Center/Lists/Press%20Releases/DispForm.aspx?ID=11&RootFolder=%2FMedia-Center%2FLists%2FPress%20Releases&Source=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Enigerialng%2Ecom%2FMedia-Center%2FPages%2FPress-Release%2Easpx

Excerpt: The Government of Nigeria currently receives over 70% of the profits from NLNG due to the additional revenues paid to the Government of Nigeria as taxes, etc, despite its shareholding being only 49%.
Someone is playing smartly with figures. Lol

Regardless of the outcome NLNG owes us all an explanation for this delay not just we are sorry.
Even the 3 months EHs were given to resume has elapsed. Haba.
At this rate they may have to backdate our salaries as is done in the state of Osun.
To those “using us to do yeye” #GodWin.

Does anyone know how promotions and career progression are in NLNG?
Happy 3rd Easter all. #Wewait for the next quarter.

Father let your will be done.

freeradical:
Sorry bruv I didn't mean to sound rash and my intention is to have a discourse and not attack you personally.

To answer your question I'd personally leave my current place of work to a place that will even pay me 50% less. Yeah u heard me right. That's to help you imagine that what I earn already isn't that bad. That Nlng will give a double of my current earnings is just to me an icing on the cake.
When I signed my offer letter where I'm currently I felt like I was going to be very comfy and happy here cos they offered over 5times what I was earning before. Alas 3years down the line I realized that I was not getting any career fulfillment. I needed a fresh start with a diff company. That was what drove me far in this exercise. I know of a colleague from my current company who applied with me for this GT recruitment but he didn't get beyond the shl stage. This guy was the best graduating student of his set in one of the top universities in the country but yet he didn't get past the shl. I know personally that he didn't make it because he his career was going the way he expected. When he got the regret mail he happily moved on. Whether he enters NLNG or not that guy is already made. Infact with better investment decisions he will be richer than any Nlng employee that squanders his finances. Even if he is not richer he will be financially bouyant and can hold his own even around Nlng big boys. So you see that when you have something better than money driving you definitely you will be more dogged in your pursuit.

When I said as long as they need to I simply mean this. Even you that feel like you so value this Nlng will jump ship if a better offer comes your way. If tomorrow you wake up and find the head HR Saudi Aramco chyking you on LinkedIn with a bloody offer to resume next week I'm sure your next post here will be a bid farewell. Same goes for each and everyone of us. We r doomed to wait for NLNG because none of us have got a better alternative but that's not to say that such opportunities may not come.

My point is we all have our stories which if possible someday we can decide to share here but until you know a persons story you can't tell what his driving force is.

Wish you well my brother. Pardon me again if any of my post come to you as an attack.

I understand ur reasoning. Points well made.

On issues like this, technically no one is right or wrong cos it is very subjective.
I respect ur rare maturity. You are a person of refreshing candour.

Thank you.

freeradical:
You are so wrong my brother. The fact that its only the money that drives u doesn't mean all are in the same boat. Some people earn well already in their current job but what draws them to Nlng may be that they feel unappreciated, or they desire the fresh challenge of the oil and gas industry. For some still they may be running away from a vindictive boss..we all know how many of how naija mgrs can frustrate young talents,for others still they want a good company where they can come back to from the diaspora. Whatever be the driving force, people see Nlng as hope for a better future hence they will wait for as long as they need to until it comes through for them.
The fact that the company pays well is an added advantage to us. If only money drives you then I doubt if you will ever be happy at the job because money I know doesn't ever satisfy. That's why the likes of dangote and bill gates will never rest.

My dear there’s no need to overflog this issue. I’m just encouraging a discourse, no need to attack.

I never said anything about ONLY money driving anyone (u even called it a fact, amazing)

Also “earning well” is very relative.

I know they are a zillion reasons one might have for leaving their jobs. That’s not the point

The question I asked is “If NLNG pays as much as ur current employer will u stick around here for 2+ years?” Even if u feel they are not treating you professionally.
Kindly explain “people see Nlng as hope for a better future hence they will wait for as long as they need to until it comes through for them.”
Don’t know how many people here will subscribe to ur “AS LONG AS THEY NEED TO”
So if this exercise lingers for 5+ years people will still wait. Why is that? Because they want to make an impact to the society pls let’s not deceive ourselves jare.

Not everyone is like that that’s why I said 99.9% (i.e. 0.1% might).

dway4ward:
Oga, in one breath you contradicted yourself. What does a staff motivated by money become? A Yes-Man.

Sincerely can’t see the connection. I guess our definition of a “yes-man” differ.
For me a yes-man (otherwise known as a kiss-ass) is motivated by different forms of fear (be it psychological, emotional, social, job security, oracle leaving, even spiritual, etc.) which makes him or her to always supress his intuition and agree on issues even though they are not right or are to his/her detriment.
Almost everyone aspires to make more money I don’t think that makes u a yes-man. Being motivated by money can be a good thing as long as it is healthy. It can make u to continually put in your best and be productive consistently. That’s why companies offer career progression and promotions. Some are motivated by power, positions etc.

Asides the unemployed, 99.9% of those saying it’s not about the money well NA LIE.

There are other avenues to impact the society, so why NLNG?

If NLNG pays as much as ur current employer will u stick around here for 2+ years? I doubt strongly. Even when the offer comes u might even reject it to prove a point. But…..with considerably higher pay, the story changes.

kecy19:
And u all are mocking our great company, NLNG. The wait has just begun for this set of Graduate Trainees.
I'm writing this in no official capacity, but i must reassure you that you are doing yourselves more harm than good with all your hate comments and insults.

BE WARNED!!!

See this aspiring GT forming staff.

The capacity with which u wrote doesn’t exist not to talk of being unofficial.

You don’t have to assume a pseudo-persona to pass across ur message.

Glad to know that there are not as many yes-men in this campaign as I thought.

This quarter is DEFINITELY NOT our quarter.

The calm brought about by their feedback in Jan has expired.
Should we threaten to bombard their recruitment email? (seems it worked the last time) .

Hypothetically what’s the limit to how long you can wait?

Father let your will and your will alone be done.

#WeWait!.

Apologies all round and apology accepted.
Had a lot of free time yday, seems I commented more than normal. Truth be told I just wanted to squeeze out more info from our man but seems it backfired big time. I guess u might have been provoked previously.
I have lost interest in this squabble, pls let bygones be bygones.
@cashme28 whatever u r looking for I don’t have it.
@Prinzofparis it will soon be time to expatiate for the sake of discourse.
Guys everything we do here is just talk (na just talk) that’s what forums are for. I’m so sure all the blokes u see as aggressors are absolute gentlemen.
@ ladyF I did a similar analysis here sometime last year. On the day of AC when asked about the no of intakes the supervisor said “it depends on a no of factors however it wouldn’t exceed 70”. The road has been narrow since inception. That ur prayer is equivalent to Father let your will be done.

forkadict:


I hail you too.

How tha fork can you compare me with @Nicer. First he is in HR and I ain't. Second he must have spent at least 8 years in the system and I have spent how long So I ask you, is this a fair comparison? Not withstanding my JJC status, I still felt obligated to tell u guys 'something' immediately it flipped past my ears albeit not as explicitly as you might want. And all you could come up with was this unfair comparison?

So my encryption even annoys you when you had options available to you? You could skip the cryptic posts, you could read and dismiss whatever is contained in them, yet you chose to do neither. Yet you chose to tell me to my face that my posts are ' bordering on annoying' (abi how you take talk the grammar again sef).

All I've got to say is NO WAHALA.

Regardless, Father, let your will be done in our lives.

My oga though u may not believe me but I have absolutely nothing against u, I just said what I observed without laying any insults.
To others categorising me as an ingrate I'm sorry but I'm alergic to a** kissing. Even if my personal oracle artmedia does something that I feel is not right I will let him know. If I goof I will be the 1st to apologise.
As a man/leader u should be able to cope with criticism and not make decisions when u r angry.
The way I see it info (or in most cases the lack of it) has no effect on this exercise it just promotes discourse on this forum that's all. I wouldn't delay going for a PhD or paying my rent based on any info from this thread.
In summary any info worth giving is worth giving well. And let the reason for divulging the "info" be that of service and not a tool to lord over anyone. Also let's consider the non-Christians in our cryptic encryptions. Lol. Goodnight people.
Father let your will be done.

forkadict:


I hail you too.

How tha fork can you compare me with @Nicer. First he is in HR and I ain't. Second he must have spent at least 8 years in the system and I have spent how long So I ask you, is this a fair comparison? Not withstanding my JJC status, I still felt obligated to tell u guys 'something' immediately it flipped past my ears albeit not as explicitly as you might want. And all you could come up with was this unfair comparison?

So my encryption even annoys you when you had options available to you? You could skip the cryptic posts, you could read and dismiss whatever is contained in them, yet you chose to do neither. Yet you chose to tell me to my face that my posts are ' bordering on annoying' (abi how you take talk the grammar again sef).

All I've got to say is NO WAHALA.

Regardless, Father, let your will be done in our lives.

My oga though u may not believe me but I have absolutely nothing against u I just said what I observed without laying any insults.
To other categorising me as an ingrate

Aphrodite4:
In a way I envy the GT set of 2007.
At least no one came on that thread to deliberately yank people's chains as regards the date of medicals etc..

It's pathetic someone would create a nairaland userlogin with the sole aim of making a joke at people in waiting (with a guise of easing their wait); what's even more disgusting is that the imbecilic individual may well be a candidate in this same exercise.

Rubbish.

Sorry na
Maybe we interpreted it wrongly,
Q12M1D5= 5th Oct 2018
We are the oldest and most experienced GTs in history.

naastyme:
Abeg where is bro moniker @Save2Server? Where has thou been hiding?

Lol, abeg leave that bros alone o, wouldn’t surprise me if he’s the one resuming today.
If u recall he gained prominence on this thread in a similar style to kaitung (by giving an exact date etc.). That’s why I’m very weary of sudden heroes.
Fellow GTs let face it we are on our own, the EHs have abandoned us. Good luck to them.
Our FATHER will never abandon us and his will must be done.

forkadict:


My apologies if you feel that way. But sometimes in life, it pays to view issues from others' perspective and not just yours. I am very sure that when the successful ones get in, they will understand why it is not wise to talk in black and white on issues like this. Ever heard of 'confidentiality agreement?'

Sir Forkadict I hail thee. I know what I’m about to say will be very unpopular so here it comes:
As someone who went through an excruciating wait similar to this I’m utterly surprised by your recent posts.
U have provided next to no information for us but only succeeded in letting us know that u have the info but can’t divulge it. That helps nobody. U r beginning to make DPlacement look like a nice guy.
On the no of intakes u said something about 1960 (pretty vague owing to the various permutations). Seems u heard when the process will end but what u said was at informative as their last mail. Ah ah give us something.
Nicer once helped someone rectify his AC invite in a matter of minutes (sure that wld have been easy for NLNG to trace) nothing happened to him, artmedia’s source has been dishing out somewhat substantial info be it Q1 or something; nothing happened to him/her.
People kept mute after AC cos they were in direct competition with one another. I understand why it might be difficult to talk but pls any info worth giving is worth giving well.
Just saying ur level of encryption makes ur info very vague and bordering on annoying.
Put urself in our shoes. We know how u were when the wait was scattering ur dada.
Regardless, Father let your will be done.