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mzilakazi:
Sensors provide a full view.

What happens when your sensors get knocked out?

Driving a badger after its sensors have been knocked out is akin to me crossing an intersection without checking left or right! You driver only see forward.

mzilakazi:
Do you think that defence industry engineers can be that stupidd? There is always a back up plan.

Please go back and read what your fellow South Africans said. We are back to square one again.

patches689:
You are making allot of assertions and providing very little proof to substantiate your claims.

I am assertive enough to notice technical errors in a design.

If you take the all seeing eye, The driver only see forward.... He cant see if a tank is coming to crush him from his left or right...... Don't claim the Badger now have acoustics to detect side movement.
BTR4 provides 180 degree situational awareness.

MikeCZAR:
Yes, your forefathers screamed witchcraft when they were reduced to piles of useless bodies by colonists with rifles.

You don't know my forefathers, so keep assuming and guessing. I bet your scientists are still guessing what to do with the prototype Badger sitting idle for over 10 years.

MikeCZAR:
You don't know.

SAAF has better capabilities. Tell us what does SAAF use for COMINT, ELINT, Radar location and more?

South African witchcraft and voodoo.

MikeCZAR:
In Iraq the Bradley IFV destroyed vehicles after vehicles with similar sensors(FLIR, Camera, Laser range finders etc).

because It is battle tested and shows the superiority of American engineering, capable of adapting to any situation.

MikeCZAR:
SA deploys groups.

groups mean more probability per sniper shot

MikeCZAR:
A man stands in front a BTR-4. So?

The SANDF has 5 Badgers for test and evaluation.

Remember: SA deploys systems.

Am I the only noticing that every 3 pages the number of Badgers increase?
Thank God you said test and evaluation.
Remember: SA deploys {single use} systems.
BTW :the Badger wouldn't need smoke grenades as the engine puff out smoke in usable quantities. (Just trying to save you some Rands)
You could use the Rands I just saved you to train one pilot.

MikeCZAR:
Nigeria doesn't have it.

So what?

South African doesn't have the battle ready Badger either.

dakingsman:
Nigeria military history

Bro is that the Mi35M?

agaugust:
Thank you.

Don't even think lucky hit, a sniper can use a 2km range sniper rifle, anti-material rifle, or automatic grenade launcher to destroy that Badger camera as it is too exposed like the horn of a cow hanging on the top of the Badger just like that, sniper snipes it and Bagder goes blind, and no windows to back up visibility.

Bagder IFV is a bad design, I will score a cheap hit, don't even need any luck to sniper burst it's camera balls
.

the all seeing Badger eye stands like a beacon for sniper practice.

Did you see the barrel that house the atgm, it is a barrel that if anything shift or touches it. the missile will misfire, taking out its offensive capability. Patches stop comparing the Badger to the Bradley. The Bradley is battle tested and one of the best in its class if not the best.

patches689:
no - you only have 5 until you can prove you have more.

The BTR-4 has modern electronics and is rated one of the world's best today in terms of modernization.

1. Show us where it says that
2. Tell us what it has: what systems, what electronics, what stabilization.

It has nothing, it is threadbare and barren as an old VW beetle.

Nope. Those windows will be covered in combat - when bullets are flying, you wont have time to hop in and out to keep opening and closing the hatches. Driver does not need situational awareness, he just needs to see infront of him, the commander is the one who needs to know what is going on.

Your gibberish about RPG's is so nonsensical that it isnt even worth a serious response. I ask you two question's: What is cover? What is concealment?

Finally, please, outline these magical 360 degree sensors you have on the BTR. Where are they? What are they? What systems does it have?

Reminder, Badger is:

- better armed
- longer ranged
- superior crew capacity
- better armored
- better optics and systems
- better comms
- better mine protection
- more modern (2006 BTR v 2015 Badger)

Soldiers are distinguished in combat not in qualification........ How many times would we prove that unless the Badger sees combat, it remains an untested prototype with fancy pictures... Because you copied the Patria's design does not mean it is in the same class. There is something called inferior metallurgy or inferior metals.

patches689:
you have fallen into my trap!!

You said it had superior situational awareness due to windows!!

But now you say that the windows are covered in combat!!

Badger has 360 day/night situation awareness... you do not! Your BTR crew will be peering through tiny slits with their naked eyes when in combat, while our crew will have complete awareness of everything around them in all weather conditions in day or night displayed on multiple screens inside the vehical!

BTR is trash. Carries less men, inferior armor, inferior troop carrying, inferior modularity, obsolete electronics, threadbare optics, inferior weapons systems. And you only have 5 of them!

In Ukraine, Sniper shots would take out your glorious all seeing sensors and then capture the troops. The BTR 4 went into combat and came back to fight another day.... seem like all South African military vehicles are for one time use just like condoms.

patches689:
First off, lucky hit - which means unlikely hit

Second, there are back up systems, including traditional fixed periscopes.

Third, what will you do when enemy bullets (or an RPG) flys through the HUGE FREAKING WINDOWS on your BTR and tares up everyone in the crew compartment. Hell, even the Ratel has armored covers which are placed over the windows in combat (trap set)

Either way, its superior to the BTR

Fixed periscope implies stationary, it doesn't rotate.
Would it be operated manually as they might not be enough space for the operator to move about therefore rendering your 360 degree situational awareness useless unless some old chap is cranking trying to find the target.

Badger has no backup systems until further prove is shown.

mzilakazi:
Badger is the world champion while BTR lacks behind with an old tech of windscreen.

So what happens when a lucky hit disables your camera and 360 degree thermal imaging sensors? It is more old tech not to have a backup plan.

EVarn:
algeria has more war machines than personnels to operate them,that alone is a big disqualifier.egypt has more military numbers than algeria,with an overwhelming number of MBTs to boot.

Personally, I think that Egypt would win. Does Algeria have any war experience?

mzilakazi:
Fool read the source.

this fool just repeated what sirjerry said.

P.S Gas and oil are two different things resources.

mzilakazi:
You have a maggot in your brain.

Maggot, Worms, same thing, You are just a fool that is dependent on using insults to achieve a purpose.

Your new year resolution should be: how to win an argument

mzilakazi:
You have a worm in your brain.

The Brain is interconnected by worm like tissue called neutrons, dummy!

Am I the only to notice that anytime someone says something about Hiv Aids, you always show up to reply.

mzilakazi:
Badger is the world best IFV.

Ohh, you mean that failed project?

What really pissed me off is the use of "Jerusalem as their capital."

We shouldn't forget that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East and hence muslims fucking hate it. Nigeria needs to get closer to the US and Israel. Supporting Palestine's impartial view is akin to supporting terror.

Fvcking happy that Nigeria stood down, I wished that they had voted against it too.

This Kenyan wants a piece of some of this
discussion

Henry120:
That's impossible.

Their camos are similar though.

Thank God for the reassurance.

Henry120:
NAF's New MI-35m helicopter

Looks similar to the Libyan Mi24 hind.

http://www.milaviapress.com/orbat/libya/afmi24hind/image.jpg

I hope these bastards didn't cheat the airforce out of the night vision model.

agaugust:
Nigerian T-72 with Anti-Tank Guided Missile in war zone.

Hell Yeah

MduZA:
a Nigerian friend of mine told me that an average Nigerian knows nothing about the affairs of Nigeria,in many instances Nigerian authorities conceal deals that their do particularly with other African countries(SA in particular) ...he said to me that ordinary Nigerians do not know that their country has been buying arms from SA since 1995 because they are always told that Nigeria only buys arms from America...yesterday a Nigerian fellow called Henry120 vigorously denied that South African banks will be financing buyers of vehicles assembled in Nigeria,after a link was provided..all Henry could do was to play the race game...SA has been / is assisting your country therefore for you to say south Africans are jelous does not hold water... on the government level Nigeria has been working with south Africa closely,we always see Nigerians coming to south Africa to see how things are done...let me come down to your level by saying ,Yoruba and igbo are also stupid...there is nothing you people are doing for yourself ...Chinese are buiding roads and railway lines for you,even the proposed power plant we are hearing of will be built and financed by the Chinese
.....

Wtf is this?

Men go home, you are drunk! Israel is surrounded by Arab nations that want to strangle the life out of the best democracy in the Middle East..... Shut the fvck up.

This is the reason i hate mthafvckers like this muslim a55hole....... The president is Christian and he is free to do what he pleases... If you don't like Israeli go climb a fvcking tree