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LongBig:
Lol your question have been answered except you want me to read it out for you like a toddler, go back to Abraham Lincoln era and live your life! This era is about lobbying, buying and bargaining which is not applicable to Nigeria alone! So what is your stress? For how long are you people going to continue to practice politics with so much bitterness and hatred? Ire ooo

Sorry bro. You haven't answered my questions.

Can you show me where I asked anything about whether democracy is expensive?

Pls how did Abraham Lincoln define democracy?

Did he say anything about buying delegates with dollars?

Taliya:
Tinubus best bet is to pick a core northerner from NW or NE in order to s ecure nothern block votes. someone liked by their ppl eh elrufai or Zulum or lobby kwankwaso if he can.Tinubu looks more Christian to the average northerner (Christian children and pastor wife) and will apply this sentiment when voting.

APC should forget about SE discouraging MM tickets as they won't vote for tinubu anyway. Forget along, plateau won't vote APC at the federal level as well. Same thing with Benue and taraba, he may get away with 30% from each state.

Rain dollars in the SS to get reasonable votes, campaign rigourously in NE states like Bauchi Bornu yobe and gombe states to get block votes, same thing with NW states. In NC he should focus on nassarawa, abuja, Niger and kogi to get substantial votes too

Comin to his base SW, he should get nothing less than 80% as 1. Yorubas are woke and don't care about religion secondly, they are more tribal than religious. a Yoruba Muslim will hire or appoint his Yoruba Christian brothers before a nothern Muslim and they trust each other like that.

Add his pastor wife influence and he wins with a landslide.

and for those trying to bring up Islamic agenda, I tell you it will not work. Shouldn't tinubu start the agenda with his first family??

Lastly picking a CM or Muslim Christian hasn't benefited the ordinary Nigerian like..polititians don't care about you, that is having sleepless nights over that. all they care about is winning and looting. The average Muslim elite and their families live like the westerners.

Those saying bandits are having their way in Kaduna, what will you say about zamfara?? Or you think having a Christian as VP will have prevented the killings?? Why don't Osibanjo prevent the everyday killings happening currently?

Obviously you have no expectations from these people contesting. Your only expectation is who wins and who looses

seunmsg:
As governor of Lagos state, Tinubu developed a very comprehensive Lagos state developmental master plan that is being implemented by successive governors in the state till today. Tell us the plan that was developed by Peter Obi and Atiku when they were in government and the state of implementation.

What is this comprehensive Lagos state developmental master plan that Tinubu developed? When was this plan developed? Where is it? Is it a document or just what you guys made up? What does this plan contain? Can you comprehensively tell us about this comprehensive plan?

Esama:
Go and get life man.

Since you have gotten a life, why can't you answer the simple question. Is that how he took Lagos to the promise land with alpha beta and agberos?

LongBig:
If my response don’t answer your question then you still have a lot to learn and unlearn! This is a new era bro! Democracy is fucking expensive!!!

I didn't ask you whether democracy is expensive or cheap. As someone who has learnt, am surprised you can't answer simple questions. Can you show me where I asked anything about whether democracy is expensive?

Pls how did Abraham Lincoln define democracy?

Did he say anything about buying delegates with dollars?

Realists:
Evny is the root of all evils, wailers will wail tire,
The stolen mandate of June 12 has been returned to Yoruba tribe in BAT .

Which mandate did Obasanjo receive in 1999?

LongBig:
Then go back to Abraham Lincoln era very simple! Ask Obama, trump and Biden joe much it cost them to win the presidency! Some of them still have to borrowed funds! Democracy ain’t cheap!!

You didn't answer the questions. Pls how did Abraham Lincoln define democracy?

Did he say anything about buying delegates with dollars?

Flamemignon1:
Like I said.... it's completely obvious. Have a great day

What is completely obvious? That you can't defend your claims?

What claims did I make that warranted your question? Can you provide the claims?.

Who asked you whether transmen and transwomen exist? Pls reproduce my question verbatim let's compare it with your claim you just made.

ponishah:
Because he is a medical doctor, to start with...
He is the governor of Delta State, a former senator, former commissioner, former secretary to Delta state governor, etc.
He has placed his name on the hall of fame in Delta and Nigerian politics, with his development of Delta State.
He was one of the pillars of pdp that held, when the party was almost going extinct.

He survived the oppression of your Lord ibori and placed him on low key activities.

Indeed Okowa is the man

I thought you wanted to mention something that has never been seen before in the history of mankind. Why should any one be jealous of the above?

How has Okowa placed his name "on the hall of Fame in delta & Nigerian politics"? (Am glad you didn't say "in" but "on". How has he developed delta state?

If you say he was one of the pillars that help PDP in delta state, who are the other pillars? What was going to make PDP extinct in delta state?

How is ibori my Lord? Can you produce the conversation we had where I discussed anything about ibori more less him being my Lord?

ponishah:
Oh, first you said he did not do any road, now you are saying they are substandard.
Lol.
Which road are now substandard? The ones you denied he did not tar.

You have nothing reasonable investment against him, except personal jealousy

Why will anyone be jealous of Okowa?

ponishah:
And who has patriotism in naija?
Nobody

Some Nigerians have patriotism

Ijoba85:
You see you'll find some of your questions, like Lagos developmental strides , Tinubu's template , Eko Atlantic city on Google. But I need to correct you for something, you kept asking what this what that has Tinubu done to change or improve Nigeria, then I want to ask you , was Tinubu ever a president? NO! Is he the sitting president?NO! So, without you being the president , there's little or nothing you can do to change the narrative in a nation. And you asked about those he made or helped achieve dreams , i can't name all but if you helped enthrone a president , kings (e.g Oni of Ife , Oba of Lagos, these are first class obas) , governors (e.g Gov. of Ogun, osun, ekiti and so on), senators , honourables even a tailor who never dreamt of ascending an exalted position as high as the seat of a local government chairman became one . All those achievements you think were cheap took great vision and hardwork to make a reality. If you want to know the followers , some hold town hall meetings in Lagos , many are scattered around other parts of Nigeria and the world , just like kwankwasiya in Kano, Tinubu is also a movement, he helps provide solution, he uses his influence to help others . Enemies who worked for him were the northern governors, why ? You and I know northerners are so fond of having power kept in the north , they'd dribble , oppress and don't like playing second fiddle to the southern region but we all witnessed how 13 out of the northern governors stood their ground insisting that power be returned to the south , they could have played politics with it by standing by Ahmad Lawan who was first put forward as a consensus APC presidential candidate remember pdp already chose Atiku as their presidential flag bearer , so the idea was to retain power in the north at all cost. This mentality of holding on to power had always made many call the north the enemy of the south but for the very first time you could see their political gladiators insisting that power returned to the south. Yes , he only helped Buhari become the president after trying 3 times but know that in life you may be helped for a job , nobody does the job for you . Tinubu is different from Buhari, you are you , I am me, we are different. Buhari chose to act the way he does. Nobody dictates to a king , you can only suggest and he's at liberty to accept or reject it. So buhari's failure can't be attributed to Tinubu . To move Nigeria forward takes the actions and inactions of the president and until Tinubu become one , you can't judge him yet .You can only judge him base on the office he once occupied. For the brains he brought up, I will only mention the few popular ones; Fashola, Ambode, Wale Edun, Yemi Osinbajo, Babatunde Fowler,Sanwo Olu etc...And for the nadeco thing , I ask you , can you raise your voice against the millitary ? He did and even had to disguise most times to escape being arrested or killed . Lastly , for the corruption thing , please make me understand , what kind of corruption was he indicted for? Did he steal money or what ? And if it's that , please show me one politician who isn't corrupt. And please allow me say this; Tinubu may be corrupt , agreed but is he a politician who makes a difference? YES! A politician who believes in democratic ideals? YES! A politician who can't be tossed around? YES! The one who can lay a good foundation for a new Nigeria just like he did for Lagos . The one who can break the control of a few cabal holding the country to ransom because he won't be a puppet to anyone, that I know

Sorry bro. You haven't answered my questions.

1. Who are the enemies that worked for Tinubu?

2. Who are the followers and how and why do they believe in him?

3. Since you are saying that buharis alliance with Tinubu won him the presidency, how has nigeria moved forward since then?

4. How have his enemies working for him and his having followers moved nigeria forward?

5. How has he used his experience as a governor , a legislator, a civil servant with the knowledge of the private and public sector to move nigeria forward? Am sure buhari had almost the same experience pre 2015. How far with that?

6. How has Tinubu having a political structure which works enabling him to win elections without stress moved nigeria forward?

7. He created LAWMA...so? Is Tinubu the first governor in the history of Lagos to create an agency for Lagos? Who owns the PSP trucks used in carry waste in Lagos?

7. Pls who owns BRT?

8. You say Tinubu "created proper financial accountability"? How did he do that? Has the meaning of accountability changed in the dictionary?

9. So what about eko Atlantic and how is it a smart city? How many years is it taking to build eko Atlantic? Who collects proceeds for the sale of land in eko Atlantic?

10. Who are the smart brains you say Tinubu is working with or has worked with? Kindly name them, when he worked with them& what have they achieved for nigeria.

11. What philanthropy are you referring to and who are the people Tinubu has helped to fulfil their dreams?

12. How is Tinubu a friend of the masses? Kindly explain

13. How is the "developmental strides achieved in Lagos for over 20 years now are all attributed to the vision of Tinubu"? What is the vision? Can you break it down for us? What are those development strides?

14. Was Tinubu the only human being that raised his voice against military rule? I ask again, what are those contributions he made in nadeco that is so special that no other person made?

15. You haven't answered this question: From your write up, are you acknowledging that Tinubu is very corrupt? Does a man of his corrupt standing deserve to be president of Nigeria? Is that what God will want?

16. Pls what foundation did Tinubu lay that made Lagos the 5th largest economy in Africa?

17. What template did Tinubu design? What and what is in that template?

18. Let me ask, is Tinubu patriotic? Can he put away corruption and nepotism? Can he allow the interests of Nigerians to prevail even when his interest and that of his cronies is threatened?

19. How does Tinubu believe in democratic ideals? What are those democratic ideals he believes in?

20. What exactly is that good foundation that he laid in Lagos that you say he will lay for nigeria?

21. If you say buharis failure can't be attributed to buhari, how come you said that the "developmental strides achieved in Lagos for over 20 years now are all attributed to the vision of Tinubu"? Was buhari governor of Lagos for 20years?

JoshTim:
I wouldn't drag this ish. You are blind.

I didn't ask you to drag anything. I just asked you to answer simple questions.

Are these your words below?:

Showing loyalty to someone that brought you to power is a good act of paying back.

Who were you referring to in your quote?

What earlier facts do you say that I am blind to?

How are my questions foolish questions?

If you do not have the section and subsection of the constitution & you can't google the constitution, how did you come by the "chapter 1" that you quoted?

Can you show me where I misquoted you?

How did you conclude that I am from the south east?

From what you written, how do you now justify your earlier comment that the deputy governor should act as governor because sanwo olu wants to help Tinubu campaign?

Pls quote the law and let us know under which circumstances did the constitution say the governor can leave his duty post and the deputy governor act in his stead?

What are the constitutional provisions for the transmission of power from the governor to the deputy?

Since you are trying to quote the law, who is the governor of a state supposed to be loyal to? Who did he swear to when he took his oath of office?

How is Lagos performing?

Flamemignon1:
You didn't answer mine so go figure

Which takes us back to:

What claims did I make that warranted your question? Can you provide the claims?.

Who asked you whether transmen and transwomen exist? Pls reproduce my question verbatim let's compare it with your claim you just made.

Flamemignon1:
Ok forget it. I answered your question though

Did you answer these?

Pls reproduce my question verbatim let's compare it with your claim you just made. Who asked you whether transmen and transwomen exist?
What claims did I make that warranted your question? Can you provide the claims?

JoshTim:
It clearly shows you are beyond saving. And if you can quote me out of context when the facts are obvious even to the blind, it don't and wouldn't want to understand why you still want to drag this conversation. I quoted the constitution and i must i follow the conventional way of quoting legal personnel?, I simply asked, if you have a contrary opinion kindly quote it.

By and large, the same law that applies to the president applies to the governor. Now, if all have said is not sufficient to defend my stand, then quote and establish your facts or else, just shut your mouth and stop all the talks leading to unnecessary drags

For clarity sake, Tinubu campaigned and used all the political structure he had to ensure easy landing for Sanwo Olu. He only left office for few hours and you lots have gone on a barking spree.

Lagos is performing, focus on your war-torn South Eastern region and may be, just may be, you will have a glimpse of hope to reach the height Lagos presently occupies.

You haven't answered any of my questions.

Are these your words below?:

Showing loyalty to someone that brought you to power is a good act of paying back.

Who were you referring to in your quote?

What earlier facts do you say that I am blind to?

How are my questions foolish questions?

If you do not have the section and subsection of the constitution & you can't google the constitution, how did you come by the "chapter 1" that you quoted?

Can you show me where I misquoted you?

How did you conclude that I am from the south east?

From what you written, how do you now justify your earlier comment that the deputy governor should act as governor because sanwo olu wants to help Tinubu campaign?

Pls quote the law and let us know under which circumstances did the constitution say the governor can leave his duty post and the deputy governor act in his stead?

What are the constitutional provisions for the transmission of power from the governor to the deputy?

Since you are trying to quote the law, who is the governor of a state supposed to be loyal to? Who did he swear to when he took his oath of office?

How is Lagos performing?

Flamemignon1:
It's obvious you are trolling but I will bite. My question has no background,just please answer it

Whats trolling? What's my business with that. I am asking you questions based on what you said.

Pls reproduce my question verbatim let's compare it with your claim you just made. Who asked you whether transmen and transwomen exist?
What claims did I make that warranted your question? Can you provide the claims?

Esama:
Your state please ?

It doesn't answer my question. Is that how he took Lagos to the promise land with alpha beta and agberos?

gambojimeta:
Those same men would be very anti-abortion at home, but don't mind procuring abortion for a 13 years old girl.

You can't even go near their adult daughters but they can't take their eyes of a child

Flamemignon1:
You asked a question and I answered. Now I'm asking mine and you are playing mind games with yourself. Just answer the question I asked

Pls reproduce my question verbatim let's compare it with your claim you just made. Who asked you whether transmen and transwomen exist?
What claims did I make that warranted your question? Can you provide the claims?

Flamemignon1:
You asked if two men could get pregnant and I said yes because you never specified whether transmen or cis men so yea.....you played yourself

You are the one playing yourself. Did I ask you if they exist? Pls reproduce my question verbatim let's compare it with your claim you just made.
Who asked you whether transmen and transwomen exist?
What claims did I make that warranted your question? Can you provide the claims?

Flamemignon1:
Yep,transmen and transwomen exists so please answer mine

Who asked you whether transmen and transwomen exist? What claims did I make that warranted your question? Can you provide the claims?

JoshTim:
Did i say in any way that the Governor ought to be loyal to anybody?

And asking me over and over again the circumstances that necessitate the transfer of power to the deputy only shows you are blind to the earlier facts.

Instead of asking me foolish questions, answers which i have provided , why not supply your own answers.

As for the section, i do not have that, and i can't be googling constitution.
If you aren't satisfied with my response, supply your own answers that contradict mine.

And please, stop misquoting me.

You should be more concerned about what your governor, in your south east region has done and not Lagos where it's heaven for you and your other folks.

Are these your words below?:

Showing loyalty to someone that brought you to power is a good act of paying back.

Who were you referring to in your quote?

What earlier facts do you say that I am blind to?

How are my questions foolish questions?

If you do not have the section and subsection of the constitution & you can't google the constitution, how did you come by the "chapter 1" that you quoted?

Can you show me where I misquoted you?

How did you conclude that I am from the south east?

From what you written, how do you now justify your earlier comment that the deputy governor should act as governor because sanwo olu wants to help Tinubu campaign?

Pls quote the law and let us know under which circumstances did the constitution say the governor can leave his duty post and the deputy governor act in his stead?

What are the constitutional provisions for the transmission of power from the governor to the deputy?

Since you are trying to quote the law, who is the governor of a state supposed to be loyal to? Who did he swear to when he took his oath of office?

Flamemignon1:
I asked a question same way you asked yours and I answered yours so please answer mine

At all. You got it twisted. I asked you a question based on the claims you made. What claims did I make that warranted your question?

Islandlady:
Let's blame Tinubu for the insecurities and killings in alaigbo and we will be alright,

Insulting yorubas and Tinubu from morning till night like we are their problem, while alaigbo is burning. . .No election in Biafra land tho

But Tinubu told us in 2015 that buhari being president will bring an end to insecurity in Nigeria

Flamemignon1:
Yes. Can you answer mine now?

Did I make any claims about women without womb? So on what basis am I to answer your question? Or are you saying lesbians don't have womb?

Flamemignon1:
Ok....we gonna go down that route? Can a woman without womb get pregnant?

Why is this question difficult for you to answer? can a gay man impregnate his fellow gay man and a lesbian woman impregnate her fellow gay woman? Simple yes or no

mhile:
There is no need arguing further with you,if you feel it is a good achievement to buy delegates,it’s ur business,if u feel it isn’t it is still your business ,but if it is easy to buy delegates and their conscience with money,then I will advise any candidate to do so

Can you show me the argument you are referring to? Or is asking question the same thing as argument?

You said

If it that easy,let other candidates buy aspirants and delegates too

Hence my simple question. Is buying aspirants and delegates now an achievement? simple yes or no

Also, how does the average Nigerian think?

Pakute:
I will never for once doubt the intelligence of this man..

His intelligence to move nigeria forward or his intelligence to avariciously enrich himself?

LongBig:
You think democracy is cheap? Lol you better have a rethink!

Pls how did Abraham Lincoln define democracy? Did he say anything about buying delegates with dollars?

Pakute:
Exactly what your ancestors were doing when true democrats were fighting for democracy which your ungrateful ass is enjoying today.

Who are the true democrats?

Esama:
You are right sir may God Almighty give you more strength to stir affairs of this country to promise land our incoming president.

Is that how he took Lagos to the promise land with alpha beta and agberos?