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KoiceReloaded:
If you're getting laid, you wouldn't be online stalking people, and masturbating over your multiple usernames and trolling habits. Shameless git.

I dont stalk people and you are on your computer far longer than I am on mine.

Please, explain to everybody here how you have time to watch so many movies. You are like a library of movies which isn't good for your social life.

If you dont know, I organised a nairaland gamers get together in GRA. Just to show you that I actually take social life seriously.

KoiceReloaded:
You're a proud troll, and you're supposed to have a good self esteem? Please phone Google to update your IQ to the latest OS, cuz your current one is apparently retarded_.

Who told you trolls have low self esteem?

FYI I only troll on nairaland. Why? Because most people dont have sense here. If you do not say something that will pain them, the would not learn.

Just remember that it was my trolling that led to alexistaiwo watching a movie at the cinema.

KoiceReloaded:
Go and get laid, it will do you some good. Perhaps, you'll stop taking every little jabs personal.

I get laid more than you. You that would rather watch a movie than sleep with your wife.

KoiceReloaded:
Says the guy that habitually stalk people.

I can see clearly that you have a real need to use a dictionary. Your IQ and vocabulary are sorely in need of an upgrade.

I have never stalked anyone on nairaland.. My actions can never be described as stalking. How can you stalk someone that is following you?

The word you need to use is "trolling".

You should be paying me for being your personal lexicon.

KoiceReloaded:
I could embarrass you further by linking definitions and examples, but you're not worth the trouble.

If you had proof, you would have used it long ago.

Sharrap with your empty threats. Dead guy.

KoiceReloaded:
Unfortunately, one one will ever compare you with anything substantial. Even a wheelbarrow has more value than you.

I dont function on people's comparison. That's for low self esteem people like yourself.....

KoiceReloaded:
See, you're dumber than a toothpick. I wasn't talking about myself, I was talking about the guy that destroyed you yesterday, a guy you've never interacted with before. You passed it off as banter, but obviously, it wasn't the case.

Well, seeing that nobody destroyed me yesterday, you cant blame me for not understanding your delusion.

Guy, the point remains the same. Bantering has nothing to do with familiarity.

Go and argue with a dictionary. I dont have time for your idiotic tantrums.

KoiceReloaded:
I'm honoured to be compared with a Nokia CEO. Thanks for the compliment.

You are honoured to be compared with an idiot that lost his job because he was too arrogant to learn about a new idea in the smartphone market?


No one is comparing you with the position of CEO. Rather, it is the arrogant action that you are being compared with.

KoiceReloaded:
So teasing total strangers is bantering in your world? Well, it's not the case in a sane world. Your IQ need an upgrade.

Ogbeni, increase your vocabulary and read a dictionary.

One can banter with anyone, including strangers.


And no, we are not strangers in the context of Nairaland. It is not today I have known your egotistical, big-headed personality.

KoiceReloaded:
I understand. Insane people often see themselves as genius, and everyone else as morons_.

Haters usually see smarter people as foolish.

You remind me of the Nokia CEO who mocked Steve Jobs Apple iPhone idea. Nokia lost the market and iPhone dominated it.

KoiceReloaded:
Bantering? You don't banter with people you just met, oga. To banter entails a certain level of familiarity. Your low IQ is starting to worry you.

The irony. You think that you have a high IQ but you are as moronic as a glue sniffing reetard.

Please where in the definition of bantering is familiarity mentioned? See below-

KoiceReloaded:
If we are, you sure don't like it. If I don't know better, I'd say you're mentally challenged, or worse, emotionally immature.

Mentally challenged?

Or maybe I'm just too sane for you to handle.

Kaycee7:
Have you ever heard the expression "Old is Gold"?

Our better yet-

"Out with the old, in with the new"

KoiceReloaded:
Always getting personal. Don't let me call the guy from the TV series thread to put you in your place, like he did yesterday.

Lol......I didn't take it personally. Just bantering

Who put me in my place I'm yet to see such a person.

KoiceReloaded:
Indomie generation mentality dey worry you.

We are in the same age group. Unless you are mistaking me for the ancient of days called Alexistaiwo

Kaycee7:
Yes.

Yes.

And good cannot match classic.

Have you ever heard of the word "outdated".

Kaycee7:
The Sound of Music, The early Bond movies, The King and I, The Ten Commandments. Some of these predate 1977. And they're still great watches today.

Very good. Now when talking about European spy movies, do normal people use the classic bond movies to make points?

Do people still use sound of music for examples of musicals?

The filming styles are outdated. Using 1977 movies when there are at least 2 good rom coms every year.

KoiceReloaded:
You need to get married, perhaps, you'll grow some sense.

Oh, so you have joined them? The "get married" Nigerian mentality?

Or maybe your wife buys sense for you to use.

Kaycee7:
So we're disqualifying films by years now?

Yes oo.

How many 1977 films can you relate to?

Dont be a baised person. Be honest with yourself.

KoiceReloaded:
So because City Lights and Annie Hall are both classics, they are unqualified to be classed as rom-coms? Are you sure you're okay?

And FYI, there are R rated rom-coms, and rom-coms for a wider demographic. Guess which ones are more popular?


I don't expect much from anyone that would rather watch Anna than John Wick 3, but man, this is a new low, even for you.

Ogbeni, stop putting words in my mouth. John Wick is a better film than Anna- that I agree. My point was that Anna is a good movie too.

Even the pg13 Rom comes have sexual innuendos. Oga, your argument is all over the place.

It is telling that you have not put forward any Hollywood-beating film from Bollywood.

You know deep down that Bollywood romcoms are inferior.

You are a married man. You very well know that real life romance is not pg 13. Do you not share jokes with your wife? Are they mostly sexual or mostly clean?

KoiceReloaded:
There is nothing in a kiss. Many kisses are not even sexual.

City Lights and Annie Hall (1977) are the best rom-com ever made and there wasn't a single sexual connotations in them. There are many more like Nothing Hill, and Love, Actually.

1977 are you serious? That alone disqualified the film city lights and annie hall as an example.

Notting Hill? Hugh Grant and Julia Roberts? Comedy? Lol.
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My guy, letseven take the most popular Hollywood rom-com in Nigeria- coming to America, starring Eddie Murphy. There were many sexual jokes there. Even right at the beginning where they washed Eddie Murphy's royal d1ck.


Koice, I am disappointed in you. You were a better film connoisseur.

Cc Empiree, Saucyxo


Are we non-muslims safe? I have a Pakistani babe inviting me to India.

Kaycee7:
We're talking about romcoms here not plain romance movies. Romcoms don't need to be sexual. They need to be funny with a romantic storyline.
And your softcore/hardcore porn analogy is just lost on me. Like, I can't connect it with our romcom argument.

That's fine.

The original argument is clear to anyone without bias. Sex is a huge part of romance.

Even comedy. Tell me, which comedian does not have his share of dick and vagina jokes?

Sex. Sex. Sex.

Think of all the iconic Hollywood romcoms. The most memorable parts are either the kissing or the sex jokes.

1. There is something about mary- sperm in hair joke

2. When Harry met Sally- Orgasm diner scene

3. American pie- Thrombone bone. Stifflers mom sex. Pie sex.

KoiceReloaded:
Whilst pausing every minute to sing/dance is okay in romantic movies, it often ruins the rhythm and mood of a more serious story. Bollywood sucks at action movies because of this. I mean, how can I take a protagonist serious when he sings every 5 minutes?

well said.

KoiceReloaded:
Did you forgot the part where I said, "in my opinion"? And who told you Rom-coms must have sexual overtones to be interesting?

They dont have to but sex is important. Kissing is important.

Romance without all these things is like stew without salt and pepper- it is still stew but not as sweet.

I gave you a film- "there's something about mary". Find a Bollywood romcom that can compare to that.

Kaycee7:
I never knew romcoms were solely about sex jokes. This is mind-blowing

That was not the exact point I was making. My point is below-



Sex is a huge part of romance. The moment you remove sex or sexuality from romance, you are removing an essential ingredient from a meal that you are preparing.

Compare this to sofcore porn and hardcore porn. If you dont show breast, yansh, pussy or dick, it is sofcore. Now many people dont even consider sofcore porn to be porn. Imagine you want to watch porn but it only shows a guy squeezing breast and ass through blouse and panties. No penetration and no full nudity. Is that one porn?

Bollywood romance is infantile abeg. Funny enough, all those lati telenovelas do better romance than Bollywood abeg. When Rodrigo kisses Maria.....mennnnn....that's some love...

Saucyxo:
Why are you tagging me lol you're a grown man. You can handle it. .

Don't worry. Its only a certain type of people think like this. It's really nothing to do with Islam persay but its followers. I think its lack of education. 14 year olds shouldn't be getting married. It's a 17 year olds fault for running out of a marriage. I've never heard of such a ridiculous thing. Obviously the girl didnt want to get married. Nigerians need to stop this silly "my way is the best way" kind of mentality. Mind ya business. She wants to have a boyfriend not get married. Periodt.

I am tagging you so that you understand why people have a serious distrust of Islam.

On the one hand, there are moderate muslims like you that are well integrated into a peaceful secular society.

On the other hand, there are conservative muslims like Empiree that support underage marriage, hate topless parades, hates LGBTQ etc.

Who do we believe? Both sides have huge numbers. I would even posit that there are more muslims like Empiree than muslims like you.

DannyKoice:
Bollywood is better at making rom-com films IMO, as I've always enjoyed Bollywood sense of humor. However. in other genres, methinks Hollywood is much better.

Bollywood, that is very sex negative is better at romcoms?

Please, take a look at the movie "there is something about mary" and tell me which Bollywood movie can make the sexual jokes that the Hollywood movie did.

Bollywood is trying but they are behind Hollywood in every department except singing and dancing in movies.

lanrexlan:
I am not in Saudi Arabia, therefore I don't know the rate of maturity level over there.

What I know is that maturity varies, what's considered matured in a community can't be considered as matured in another community. What Islam preaches is physical, mental, psychological, emotional maturity and financial maturity (maturity in all forms). Some girls are physically matured but mentally they aren't matured for marriage. Maturity and consent are the two important keys for marriage.

There was an issue that happened few months ago in one of the southwestern states in Nigeria. This man married a girl of 17 years old and the girl ran back to her boyfriend after the second day of the nikkah! Imagine that, it was obvious that she wasn't matured mentally for marriage, just physical maturity. Point is that maturity goes beyond what meets the eye.

Saucyxo, the true story is coming out now.


Your Muslim brothers will not condemn the marriage of a 50 year old man to a 14 year old girl in Saudi Arabia. As long as it is sanctioned by a sharia court, they will abide by it.

Lanrexlan is talking about maturity and consent. Ogbeni, a 14 year old lacks the maturity to consent.

lanrexlan:
Lol, he can do that himself. I don't need to tell him. I am here to state my own stance.


Once again, you have brilliantly cherry-picked my words to create arguments that aren't there. I don't have time going around circles. I have explained what I meant by "getting them married". I NEVER call "getting them married" as the ideal situation nor the type of marriage that Islam preaches. Rather, I called it "choosing the lesser evil in an extreme situation" (this is Fiqh) and nowhere did I talked about forcing them to get married. I gave you a real life situation up there, it was the even the girl who requested to get married cos of the fear of fornication and nobody forced her.

I quite know and duly understand that these kids aren't matured for marriage and I took my time to explain what I meant by "getting them married". I think it is very unfair if you are cherry-picking my words and you aren't reading it in the context of what I posted. You decided to choose what you wanna understand and digested and counter it. I can't help that miss.

Once again, I will restate my stance.

There are two things:
1) The best is to tame these kids and be mindful of what they are exposed to it. Keep them in good environment that would tame their desires and will make them learn and have less relation with the opposite sex. That's why it is good to have separate schools for boys and girls and interactions between them should be for what's necessary and required. Teach them about the ethics of Islam as regards to no shaking hands with opposite sex, no seclusion with the opposite sex, etc. If they are getting close to the opposite sex or something that will lead to intimacy is already brewing, reorientate them.This is the best.


2) The extreme situation: One notices that his kid is already having sex with females and the person seems not to have control over the kid again (one can't control kids in what they do in private). He fears that the kid will continue to fornicate and give birth out of wedlock. The kid might be young getting married but is getting married to a kid of his/her age not better than fornication and having a bastard as a child?

We have to choose the lesser of two evils and to me, it is better to marry such a kid (what I meant by a kid is 14years and above) to the person he/she is already seeing than letting the fornication to continue. This is not paedophilia cos they are in the same age range. Some might call it underage marriage and that's why I was explicit with what I meant by "getting them married". I quite explain that.

That you describe something as the lesser of two evils does not mean it is so.

How is marrying an immature teenager a lesser evil? Why is fornication worse than breaking 3 more laws by marrying the two teenagers.

First, you are creating a illegal marriage which breaks secular law. Only adults of mature mind (18 and above) can enter the contract called marriage. Secondly, you are creating a haram marriage as in Islam marriage must be of two mature minds. Thirdly, you are creating Avenue for more fornication. The marriage is illegal and any sex during that marriage is fornication. Furthermore, the teenagers will eventually divorce because it is rare for teenagers to remain with the same partner when they reach their mid twenties.

There is a solution without evil. It is called counselling (for abstinence). There are many counselling options to stop 14 year olds from having sex. What children really need is proper counselling and monitoring.

Seriously, when do 14 year olds have time to have sex? They are in school till 4pm. If you monitor them and make sure you pick them or they follow school bus home, they have very little chance to be mischievous.

Once they are at home, give them activities to focus their minds on positive things and monitor them. They should only go out with friends whom you know their parents and they should be timed. For instance, if they are going to watch a film, make sure they use only the duration of the films.

Seriously, no child is a sex addict at 14.


You guys truly sound like you do not know anything about teenagers.

MuttleyLaff:
"We’ve both been diagnosed as bipolar, a mental condition characterized by manic highs and depressive lows. Depending on where you are on the spectrum, mania can either make you feel mildly irritated and erratic, or a deep, yet deceiving, purity that makes you think you’re in touch with God Himself. I fall solidly in the latter group, and my condition began with a grand epiphany that didn’t feel like a mental disability at all.

Before I flew home to Texas from NYC to be at my grandmother’s side, I was in the darkest depression I’d ever experienced, triggered by a profound disappointment that my life wasn’t panning out the way I had hoped, both professionally and personally. I was jobless and falling out of love, so I spent the majority of my time in bed, curled up in the fetal position and sobbing endlessly.

I felt myself slipping and began to pray nonstop for any kind of change, a thread to hold onto. Seriously: that’s how this all started. When I began my own informal research later, I found that others with bipolar disorder had been set off by the same thing. “What drove me into my first manic episode was me being extremely, unhealthily single-minded in pursuing the Lord more than I ever had,” one YouTube commenter wrote underneath a video titled “A Look at Bipolar Disorder from a Biblical Perspective.”

That’s how focused I was. I surrendered myself to prayer until the tears stopped and I began to experience thoughts and sensations I had never felt before. My depression dissipated, replaced by a divine sense of calm mixed with an insuppressible desire to save the world with my bare hands. As time would tell, I was going through my first bout with mania, but it felt as if my body was crackling with the electricity of a natural-born superpower (albeit one I couldn’t control).

So imagine my surprise last June, when I heard track two of Kanye’s most recent album, ye. “That's my bipolar shit, ni**a what?” he said braggadociously at the end of “Yikes.” “That's my superpower, ni**a. Ain't no disability. I'm a superhero! I'm a superhero!”"
- Waking Up Bipolar host Chris Cole

Thanks for this post.

BetWinners:
That person is silly.Jews have also suffered much discrimination but has anyone here ever seen them empathizing with groups who suffer great discrimination?Why are ITK blacks trying to get involved in a battle that doesnt concern them?They should mind their business and concentrate on improving themselves just like the jews have done

What are you saying. First, have Jews suffered as much discrimination as blacks? Secondly, do you know how huge gay rights is in Isreal and among American Jews?


Please, stop talking nonsense. I wont argue too much