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The north got a lot of desert looking regions and most settlement are space so the claim of the number surprises me.! They don't have the number, in all elections children are even compelled to vote to justify the false claim plus number rigging even a former colonial lord confessed to that. If true federalism is implemented all these false claim will be needless

zilokontah:
I dear say the North do not possess the number as they claimed. They should have allowed Odimegwu to conduct a credible population after plugging the porous border.
The result would have shocked the world and indeed the North, who have carry on for too long with this injustice.

A land mass of what 80%, the contigous waters of Nigeria South, means the South is far larger than the North, if it consider a land mass of over 80% unhabitable desert/arid nature.

If they are already laying the groundwork for the SNC report to be ignored, they should come out straight with it instead of hidding under the guise of population statistic fraught with fraud.

richidinho:
OK but there were northerners in the confab.... I didn't see Jonathan debating in the confab

Jonathan couldn't have been in the confab he was then the president will look like he was there to influence things

These where the list of attendees by category, just for the records
http://leadership.ng/news/352593/national-confab-jonathan-releases-list-492-delegates

Demdem:
why do u want to continue to build on a faulty foundation? why do we like deceiving ourselves in this country? Postponing the evil days indefinately. we have never for once had that opportunity to discuss the BASIS OF OUR TOGETHERNESS and u expect imbalance in the political sphere to end eh? i dont share ur thoughts.

Well I feel it should comprise and encompass all inclusive of the issue of being in sovereignty or NOT

Agree with you that everything and everyone needs to be addressed inclusive of and exclusive off sovereignty

Demdem:
Am sorry but both Gbonigi and clark explanation doesn't fly and the conference didnt obviously take everyone along. They are both playing with words. We are talking of a conference that has a no-go area topics how will u reconcile their statements with this singular reason.
Let me tell u this and i will be straight to the point..............
1) we need a conference that will determine if we Nigerians trully want to be together or not.
2) If No, the process of our disintegration.
3) If Yes, the basis for our togetherness
4) A proper;y constituted conference whose decisions wont be subjected to the NASS (that means it must be SNC)
Whatever imbalance u are afraid of now will be sorted out there and then. the NC never assured that for ur info. The moment Jonah-daft made it a no go area, i knew it was just another waste sojourn like OBjs.

Agree with you that everything and everyone needs to be addressed inclusive of sovereignty

Demdem:
Am sorry but both Gbonigi and clark explanation doesn't fly and the conference didnt obviously take everyone along. They are both playing with words. We are talking of a conference that has a no-go area topics how will u reconcile their statements with this singular reason.
Let me tell u this and i will be straight to the point..............
1) we need a conference that will determine if we Nigerians trully want to be together or not.
2) If No, the process of our disintegration.
3) If Yes, the basis for our togetherness
4) A proper;y constituted conference whose decisions wont be subjected to the NASS (that means it must be SNC)
Whatever imbalance u are afraid of now will be sorted out there and then. the NC never assured that for ur info. The moment Jonah-daft made it a no go area, i knew it was just another waste sojourn like OBjs.

Wishing you a good retirement time! Congrats!

Demdem:

NC - National Conference
SNC- Sovereign National Conference.
Jonah-daft made a blunder of repeating Obj's experiment.

That wasn't just a NC but SNC at least no one talked about dividing Nigeria at the conference so was an SNC except you have other meanings

Joavid:
Yea. I don't think Buhari can do much about it TBH. You know this people are always on the move.


The chiefs and kings in those communities need to strategise and come up with a plan and involve the police if need be.

The heardmens don't involve police when they do their non sense why should the communities do

Demdem:

NC - National Conference
SNC- Sovereign National Conference.
Jonah-daft made a blunder of repeating Obj's experiment.

Don't let your hate for Jonathan kill you o! how did Jonathan repeat OBJ's experiment when these was given as the excuse to conduct another NC in Jonathans Era

"Gbonigi said that the 2005 national conference was not people’s conference as it did not discuss the peculiar needs and desires of various ethnic nationalities that made up Nigeria.

He said Nigerians would this time around have what he described as a “people’s conference” that would come up with “peoples decision.”

He said, “We are going to have a people’s conference that will come up with the people’s decision. We are going to have a conference that knows and understands one another. This conference will respect the peoples’ culture.”

Clark also said, “The 2005 national conference was not based on the Will and representations of the people of Nigeria. Former President Obasanjo and the governors handpicked the delegates. The 2005 national conference was not the desire of the people of Nigeria.

“Under the planned national conference, there would be no second class citizen. This conference would be conducted based on the equality of all Nigerians.”

Demdem:

Just a question for u.........
What are the major differences BTW obj NC and last year NC?

This is what was said and the excuse for organizing another National conference under Jonathan Era

"Gbonigi said that the 2005 national conference was not people’s conference as it did not discuss the peculiar needs and desires of various ethnic nationalities that made up Nigeria.

He said Nigerians would this time around have what he described as a “people’s conference” that would come up with “peoples decision.”

He said, “We are going to have a people’s conference that will come up with the people’s decision. We are going to have a conference that knows and understands one another. This conference will respect the peoples’ culture.”

Clark also said, “The 2005 national conference was not based on the Will and representations of the people of Nigeria. Former President Obasanjo and the governors handpicked the delegates. The 2005 national conference was not the desire of the people of Nigeria.

“Under the planned national conference, there would be no second class citizen. This conference would be conducted based on the equality of all Nigerians.”

Demdem:

Who are u to determine that? It was mainly political selection from pdp states and the presidency.
What we need is not a NC but an SNC.

What do you mean by NC but an SNC. am not good with abbreviations

merry02:
time ll tell!

My question is if the North for me its not APC but the north (AREWA) that's condemning the confab move then I ask what is their recommendation to create a balance in the system which is what the confab strongly projected! If this is not either of two things will happen
-the north will continue to want to suppress other regions in order not for the confab recommendation to actualise or people will get really fed-up and there will be lots of problem in the system in the future. If the confab is not implemented even fighting corruption will remain a big issue

Demdem:

The person u qouted made salient points. Read it again and u will appreciate it better. In otherwords, it's basically premature considering that MOST positions aren't being filled yet.
@ topic, the Confab was a waste. The APC govt now governing from the beginning were never in support and they gave their reasons then. It will be foolish for anyone to think the same APC will implement. Report is best shredded

For those affected the Confab is a way to balance an imbalance system! surprising question is 'why is it only the north that's condemning the confab??!

You are right other regions have so caused divisions among us -Easterners , it usually from the north/west such divisive sentiment originate from. They use the old divide and rule system of governance which developed countries have long dropped.
often brain washing the SS regions and causing them to be divided because as long as they remain un-united its easy to keep milky off the region.
Nigeria claim to copy America in many ways ,even in their democracy, but the economy of Nigeria has remained a mono economy, its survival /budget etc hugely depends on only one source of income which is OIL. Unlike the US economy that is very diversified.
America produces far more oil than Nigeria from state of Texas yet other states are self actualizing and viable on their own and making their own income and not minding oil in Texas, the confab address all this, the reason for the clamour of federalism of all regions and all states.

EasternLion:
Who saw they are using North to say what they want to say?
We Arewa, we North.


But when it comes to us
.N/Delta, we Igbos, we Ijaws, SS, SE, Igbo nation.

Why not collectively answer East?
"Oh no, Igbo man wants our oil, Igbos will dominate us Niger Deltans".
Ok OK then use ur Original name Biafra.

"I am not Biafran oh, if u come to Cross River and shout Biafra, u will not go back alive".
"Biafra is for Igbos, we are N/Delta, I want resource control and amnesty money".

"Oh no, Nnamdi Kanu is spreading hate and seditious, we enlightened Igbos don't support him".

The North will always have their way.

phyllosilicate:
I am from the south south, and I support fiscal federalism. My is, if one is calling for a National dialogue, all regions should be fairly represented. And the delegate should be chosen by their people. Jonathan just hand picked people. Less call a spade a spade.

Even at that the way he selected them by category is ok to and comprise men of diverse discipline from all regions

here is the list of the Confab delegates by category

http://leadership.ng/news/352593/national-confab-jonathan-releases-list-492-delegates

kutchs:
I don't see how the demand by the south for fiscal federalism and resource control is anti-north number or no number. You must agree that this country needs to be restructured in the south wants for it to develop. The north instead of crying fowl should look inwards for ways to bring their region out of years f self inflicted harm.
BTW can you give us the names of the delegates by states of origin.

You hit the nail on the head. The list of the participants

Here is the list of participant - 492 Deligates
http://leadership.ng/news/352593/national-confab-jonathan-releases-list-492-delegates


The is the name of chairman
http://dailyindependentnig.com/2014/03/jonathan-names-kutigi-national-confab-chairman/
http://www.informationng.com/2014/03/national-confab-jonathan-names-ex-cjn-kutigi-chairman-akinyemi-vice.html

Lets see some pics!

Joavid:
Hmmm, did the communities fight back?

There is a way they fight back and mark the place a no go area for fulani's and their cattle.

I can't remember the last time such happened in Kogi state especially Kogi central cos some years back the people actually fought back and killed lots and lots of their cattle.

Agree this will be the solution for real. They should stop ignoring them ! They should do them an eye for 10 eyes and everyone go respect each other! They carrying AK47, who no fit carry arms! Nonsense indeed!

Until Buhari & Tinubu implement true federalism as they faked to support during the campaign, APC means nothing to me but fraud!

The North has no faith in the National Conference organized by the outgone administration of former President Goodluck Jonathan, according to the Arewa Consultative Forum (ACF).

The group, in a statement issued in Kaduna State on Thursday, declared that the conference was skewed against the geo-political zone.

The declaration was in reaction to a statement credited to prominent Yoruba elder, Chief Ayo Adebanjo, who has consistently urged the Muhammadu Buhari administration to implement the recommendations of the conference.

The Yoruba socio-political umbrella organization, Afenifere, to which Chief Adebanjo belongs, had consistently advocated the convocation of a National Conference as the solution to Nigeria’s many problems.

During the last presidential campaign, the Afenifere had declared bloc support for the reelection of the then incumbent President Jonathan citing its fears that a government headed by the All Progressives Congress (APC) might not implement the recommendations of the conference.

Adebanjo had in an interview with a newspaper recently, said: “My own view and the view of Afenifere are that a northerner will not be so disposed to changing the constitution because they are the beneficiaries of what we are complaining about. Let them disprove that.”

He had added: “About 500 distinguished Nigerians recommended a new constitution unanimously and nobody has come out to say what we did there was wrong.”

The ACF, in a statement on Thursday, disclosed its objection to the conference.

The statement was issued by the Northern group’s National Publicity Secretary, Alhaji Muhamma Ibrahim.

The group admitted that the North participated in the conference, but added that the constitution of its membership was lopsided and skewed to favour the South over the North.

It said: “The selection process of delegates by President Jonathan’s government to the confab made the North, that has a population of 75,268,686 people (NPC 2006) with a land mass of 730,885 square km (80%) as a minority with 189 delegates while the South with a population 65,151,458 people (NPC 2006) with a land mass of 193,438 square km (20%) as a majority with 303 delegates.”

It continued: “Despite this glaring injustice and disadvantage, the North, as a region did not only participate in the overall national interest of Nigeria but also stabilised the conference on crucial issues of national unity. The 2014 Confab was therefore not a platform for constitution making and did not unanimously recommend a new constitution for Nigeria as claimed by Chief Adebanjo.

“The learned Chief knows better the process of constitution making and certainly the delegates to the 2014 Confab did not qualify for such process, as they were not elected as representatives of the people but selected or nominated by government and interest groups.”

It added: ”The delegates therefore did not have the legitimate mandate of the people to draft or recommend a new constitution for Nigeria and did not even do so.”

The ACF wondered whether it was the fault of the North that Jonathan, who had ample time to implement the recommendation of the confab, failed to do so.

It added: “The 2014 Confab, in which ACF fully participated made about 600 far-reaching recommendations on policy issues, legal and constitutional amendments to the 1999 Constitution as amended and submitted the report to the former President on August 21, 2014 and not a new Constitution.

“President Jonathan had ample opportunity to implement some of the policy issues or even forward some of the recommendations that require legal and constitutional amendments to the National Assembly, but did not do so.

“Was it the northern interest that stopped him, being a southerner or a southern interest? The Confab report, being a public property, is subject to the usual due process of implementation through the three arms of government and not singularly by President Buhari as Chief Adebanjo is canvassing.”

It cautioned against inflammatory statements from respected elders that could jeopardise the corporate co-existence of the nation and described Adebanjo’s comment as embarrassing and absurd.

http://dailytimes.com.ng/jonathans-confab-anti-north-says-acf/

The North has no faith in the National Conference organized by the outgone administration of former President Goodluck Jonathan, according to the Arewa Consultative Forum (ACF).

The group, in a statement issued in Kaduna State on Thursday, declared that the conference was skewed against the geo-political zone.

The declaration was in reaction to a statement credited to prominent Yoruba elder, Chief Ayo Adebanjo, who has consistently urged the Muhammadu Buhari administration to implement the recommendations of the conference.

The Yoruba socio-political umbrella organization, Afenifere, to which Chief Adebanjo belongs, had consistently advocated the convocation of a National Conference as the solution to Nigeria’s many problems.

During the last presidential campaign, the Afenifere had declared bloc support for the reelection of the then incumbent President Jonathan citing its fears that a government headed by the All Progressives Congress (APC) might not implement the recommendations of the conference.

Adebanjo had in an interview with a newspaper recently, said: “My own view and the view of Afenifere are that a northerner will not be so disposed to changing the constitution because they are the beneficiaries of what we are complaining about. Let them disprove that.”

He had added: “About 500 distinguished Nigerians recommended a new constitution unanimously and nobody has come out to say what we did there was wrong.”

The ACF, in a statement on Thursday, disclosed its objection to the conference.

The statement was issued by the Northern group’s National Publicity Secretary, Alhaji Muhamma Ibrahim.

The group admitted that the North participated in the conference, but added that the constitution of its membership was lopsided and skewed to favour the South over the North.

It said: “The selection process of delegates by President Jonathan’s government to the confab made the North, that has a population of 75,268,686 people (NPC 2006) with a land mass of 730,885 square km (80%) as a minority with 189 delegates while the South with a population 65,151,458 people (NPC 2006) with a land mass of 193,438 square km (20%) as a majority with 303 delegates.”

It continued: “Despite this glaring injustice and disadvantage, the North, as a region did not only participate in the overall national interest of Nigeria but also stabilised the conference on crucial issues of national unity. The 2014 Confab was therefore not a platform for constitution making and did not unanimously recommend a new constitution for Nigeria as claimed by Chief Adebanjo.

“The learned Chief knows better the process of constitution making and certainly the delegates to the 2014 Confab did not qualify for such process, as they were not elected as representatives of the people but selected or nominated by government and interest groups.”

It added: ”The delegates therefore did not have the legitimate mandate of the people to draft or recommend a new constitution for Nigeria and did not even do so.”

The ACF wondered whether it was the fault of the North that Jonathan, who had ample time to implement the recommendation of the confab, failed to do so.

It added: “The 2014 Confab, in which ACF fully participated made about 600 far-reaching recommendations on policy issues, legal and constitutional amendments to the 1999 Constitution as amended and submitted the report to the former President on August 21, 2014 and not a new Constitution.

“President Jonathan had ample opportunity to implement some of the policy issues or even forward some of the recommendations that require legal and constitutional amendments to the National Assembly, but did not do so.

“Was it the northern interest that stopped him, being a southerner or a southern interest? The Confab report, being a public property, is subject to the usual due process of implementation through the three arms of government and not singularly by President Buhari as Chief Adebanjo is canvassing.”

It cautioned against inflammatory statements from respected elders that could jeopardise the corporate co-existence of the nation and described Adebanjo’s comment as embarrassing and absurd.

http://dailytimes.com.ng/jonathans-confab-anti-north-says-acf/

If we practice true federalism and fairness! we'll go a long way

Abia state needs a lot of improvement. Hope this new government will help shape up the state. The state is dirty and lacking development . but the people themselves are hard working

zinosleek:
During his administration it was free for all stealing across without fear of being reprimanded. Goodluck was neither feared or respected

So it has been it every administration. I hope your hatred for Good luck will not burn you up!

zinosleek:
One wonder with how the last last administration allows the looting at all levels of government parastatals, what would have been left of of Nigeria by 2019. The problem with GEJ administration was the free allowed looting at all levels without fear

Nigeria has always been that way long from military era till date...............

asha80:
from a recently laid off shell staff..he said that shell is gradually divesting from onshore oil explorations(cost of providing security because militancy and kidnapping issues) to focus on offshore biz with the base being in Lagos.they have already divested from warri some years ago..however they are still interested in gas like is being shown in the gas plant being built in egbema in Imo state.

Hmn! thanks for the Info, dint know that!

APC ! SHAME!!

True Talk! caused by divide and rule technique of leadership often promoted by Nigerian government , an ancient model of leadership no longer used in civilised nations like US, Canada , China etc...

ogheneoreva:
List of Igbo Governors In Nigeria

South South

1.Senator Ifeanyi Okowa - Delta

2. Chief Barr Ezebunwo Nyesom Wike - Rivers

South East

3.Engineer Dave Umahi- Ebonyi

5.Mr Rochas Okorocha- IMO

6. Okezie Ikpeazu- Abia

7.Mr Ifeanyi Uguanyi-Enugu

8.Chief Willie Obiano- Anambra

We are one people with one goal and aim - Freedom from the parasites

The creation of Geo-political zones has smacks of deceit and aims to divide Igbo from their brothers.

Question to ponder about...... Is the South South one tribe?... No

What's the reason for creating zones? .....To create in-house fighting among brothers.

Why is the south East the smallest zone? .....To cage the Igbo.


Am I alone ?.......No.

Only of recent Ameachi stated that he was Igbo..... Wike claimed to be the new Ojukwu. Please search on Google before casting aspersions on me.

On a concluding note..... Stop saying South South....... It's the creation of the Fulani and other parasites to divide us.

Have a wonderful day....

Cc.....Oreva

Allegation! Allegation Allegation! When will we see the promised positive change!

The North was busy blaming and nicknaming and saying Jonathan not capable of curbing Boko Haram that seeking external forces amounts to saying Nigerian Military is week. They condemned the action. Barely days Buhari was sworn in the started what him and his own people so greatly condemned Jonathan for. El-Rufai was always out condemning this action but has not said a thing since Buhari started on the same path. Nemesis will catch up with them. Demonic APC party!

arbitter:
Soo what you want is for Buhari to cancel the Amnesty because what?? so you can then scream he's a bigot who hates Niger Delta and if he says he'll keep and improve it he's a coward and he's afraid of some thug

Same way Jonathan was condemned for trying to form alliance with other African countries to fight Boko Haram and they nick named him weak. From the first time Buhari got sworn in he is been travelling from country to country seeking support to fight against Boko Haram something that Jonathan was heavily condemned for....

brooklyn49:
SUMMARY



*Jonathan never or seldom, at best, picked my
calls ~Biya

*Crude oil theft

MY COMMENT

Mr. Biya, don't blame Jonathan..APC here were busy criticising him of not being able to curb the menace of BH alone..e.g Elrufai said he visited chad bla bla bla

Well said