₦airaland Forum

trillville:
Not according to the Nigerian constitution. In fact all resources belong to the federal government under our constitution.

edogirl2:
Please tell us what your state contributed to the Federal purse before it started producing oil.

Let us negotiate a higher derivation, you say no. It must be resource control.


But when asked how you will achieve it, you people fall silent.

texazzpete:
I'm a Nigerian first and foremost, but also from the Niger Delta. The problems of the Niger delta would not be this bad if they had made better use of the allocations they'd received...

Even a simpleton like you should be able to thing these things through logically, for once.

GBTYO:
Nigeria is a land of the absurd!

SW governors like Fasole and that rascal Aregbe keep demanding for more revenue from the central govt.

They hinge their claims for more money on the fact that the current sharing formula of 52% to the FG is too large.

Ask the ediots how the FG gets so much revenue which is primarily from the proceeds of Niger Delta oil and they will keep mute.

You want more at the expense of another region.

Full resource control and an exit from this useless nigeria is what we demand

Operation 12 Monkeys

No more free food for baboons

GBTYO:
Nigeria is a land of the absurd!
When GMB won the allocation Osun State governor was quick to start advocating for more allocation to his state;
It only leaves me wondering what his state countributes to Federal government purse. Stupid demand!!

http://www.punchng.com/news/buharis-victoryll-boost-allocation-to-osun/



SW governors like Fasole and that rascal Aregbe keep demanding for more revenue from the central govt.

They hinge their claims for more money on the fact that the current sharing formula of 52% to the FG is too large.

Ask the ediots how the FG gets so much revenue which is primarily from the proceeds of Niger Delta oil and they will keep mute.

You want more at the expense of another region.

Full resource control and an exit from this useless nigeria is what we demand

Operation 12 Monkeys

No more free food for baboons

trillville:
See, we are a sovereign nation, what protects our sovereignty is our army

trillville:
This is one of the major reasons the PIB has not been passed. The issue of ownership of offshore wells.

kmariko:
The united states we so copy, oil is owned by individuals, corporation and families not by states.

The communities where the oil if found are the rightful owners. The family where the oil is found are the rightful owners.
The scenario you just painted is merely to fly a kite and see where it lands.

Resource control is not about Niger Delta as no such entity exists. Resource control is about fiscal federalism and reducing the overbearing government at the center..

kmariko:
The united states we so copy, oil is owned by individuals, corporation and families not by states.

The communities where the oil if found are the rightful owners. The family where the oil is found are the rightful owners.
The scenario you just painted is merely to fly a kite and see where it lands.

Resource control is not about Niger Delta as no such entity exists. Resource control is about fiscal federalism and reducing the overbearing government at the center..

trillville:
Yes
The only thing stopping them is the Nigerian army.

This brings about the question of civil war. While it is morally justifiable for resources on land in the Niger delta to be considered Niger delta resources, will the western world also support the idea of the resources in the ocean belonging to the niger delta? What happens in the case of a civil war. Winner takes all

pazienza:
You mean, even Niger and Chad can also lay claim to the Atlantic ocean, since they are neighbors to the North, and indirectly Nigeria, right?

Nigeria can only lay claim to the part of the Atlantic ocean that borders Lagos and Ondo states, if Niger delta were to be an independent country of it's own.

trillville:
Even if the Niger delta were a country on its own, Nigeria could still claim the resources in the ocean.

For example, the state Alaska is a piece of land only bordered by Canada, yet is part of the United States of America. The Reunion island is off the coast of South East Africa after Madagascar yet it is part of the French Republic.

So what right would the Niger delta have to claim what is in the Atlantic Ocean?

DeCleff:
Guy, what do u think was the interest of Rivers people? To share the money meant for development to some greedy beasts and leave the state the same way Odili did?

Whatever Ameachi did was never for himself but for Rivers people. If he had acted like Odili he wouldn't had any problem with anyone but Rivers people would have suffered even more

trillville:
Your example is quite funny, what if the resulting flood not only affects the Niger delta but also anambra. So anambra should suffer the flood but get no benefit? How do we decide the impact of this your imaginary flood??

We are talking about ownership here and now who is affected by flooding. Why should the Niger delta claim to own resources in the Atlantic Ocean?

Again, if there is a virus (disease) in the Niger Delta, and this virus spreads to anambra, why should anambrans suffer the effect of the Niger Deltan virus but not benefit from the Niger Deltan oil?

trillville:
Pazienza, vorp, ecollynzo
First of all, I support an increase in the amount of money invested in the Niger delta region.

My issues with resource control is based on two facts

1. Should offshore oil and gas be regarded as Niger delta resources?

2. Is increasing the amount of funds state governments receive necessarily going to have an impact on the people?

The first point is a topic that needs to be debated (I.e. Onshore/offshore dichotomy)

As for the second point, I feel an insistence by the Niger Deltans that more refineries, power plants, schools, etc, be built in their region by the federal government will be much more beneficial to the people than simply increasing their derivation.

eCollynzo:
That is exactly what is happening.
A place like Eket has more Yorubas than indigenes.

Vorp:
I know,but presently they are not doing enough compared to some state and their size.

Vorp:
Akwa Ibom's budget allocation alone is more than the revenue of many African countries and even Ghana yet they didn't really do anything with it except the stadium.

texazzpete:
Don't mind the greedy people who will come and condemn you. Your proposals are fair enough. Resource control really has no chance of being put in place in Nigeria for the next few decades. The smart play is to negotiate an increase in the derivation payments and build on that.

eCollynzo:
Niger deltans really have no idea what they are missing.
Look at countries like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Quatar etc, they have some of the most corrupt leaders in the world, but because of their small population, they still have enough resources left to go round and develop their countries, improve the lives of their people.
But the case of the Niger delta is that they have to share a large chunk their resources with 19 unproductive states where people give births indsicrimately and then the little that comes back to them is shared among corrupt leaders.
With the relatively small population of the core Niger delta areas, no amount of corruption will prevent the ordinary man in those areas from living a good life if they are allowed to control their resources.

pazienza:
People giving reasons to sustain their parasitism! If there wasn't crude oil in the Niger delta, won't the rest of the country survive?

I am all for 100% resource control, even though my state has no crude oil wealth at the moment. It will make government less attractive to parasites, only those with innovative ideas will survive.

edogirl2:
If you are in a family, and you happen to be blessed than others, it seems reasonable and humane to want to extend your blessings to the other members of the family.


My proposal will increase the benefit to the ND whilst ensuring that other members of the 'Nigerian family' also gets something.

rooftech:
umana umana is Member of pdp

smallrincowis16:
ASSUMING THERE IS A VERSES LIKE DS IN THE
QUR'AN PLS MY BROTHER ND SISTER IN ISLAM
WHAT WOULD'VE BE OUR XTIAN REACTS TODAY
CONCERNING TERRORISM
************************
1''KILL WICHES''SORCERESS: EXODUS17:12
2''KILL HOMOSEXUALS: LEVITICUS20:13
3''KILL WHO DON'T LISTEN TO PRIESTS
DEUTERONOMY17:12.
4''KILL FORTUNETELLERS: LEVITICUS 20:13.
5''DEATH FOR HITTING DAD EXODUS 21:15.
6''DEATH FOR CURSING PARENT
PROVERBS20:20.
7''DEATH FOR ADULTERY; LEVETICUS20:10.
8''DEATH FOR FORNICATION LEVETICUS21:9.
9''DEATH TO FOLLOWER OF OTHER RELIGION
EXODUS22:19.
10''KILL NON-BELIEVERS, 2CHRONICLE15:12-13.
11''KILL FALSE PROPHETS ZECHARIAH13;3.
12''KILL D ENTIRE TOWN IF ONE WORSHIP
ANOTHER GOD DEUTERONOMY13:13-19.
13''KILL WOMEN WHO ARE NOT VIRGIN ON
THEIR WELDING NIGHT, DEUT22:20-21.
14''KILL FOLLOWER OF OTHER RELIGION
DEUT13:7-12.
15''DEATH FOR BLASPHEMY LEVETICUS24:10-16
ETC...
NOTICE**** Motive on ds barbaric verses quoting
out from Christian bible based on BOKO Aram
terrorist, just dt our Christians friends never come
acrossed ds deadly verses in their bible, they
could hv know dt BOKO ARAM always using bible
verses quoted above.
Nd it's a surprised whenever they kill, or
beheaded they will begin shouting Allahu-Akbar
[means GOD is gr8] silent laughing....'' hmmm]
reading a verse who doesn't relevant to the
barbaric acts.
On if any Christians friends those usually attack
Islam, qur'an nd our beloved prophet, on social
network interpret those verses reading in d
qur'an, perhaps d verse can use to justify all d
barbaric acts.
Your explanation is needed on those bible
verses....

DeCleff:
Ameachi had no choice but to join APC since the pdp structure was taken from him illegally through the court.

As for the case of NJC and Ameachi regarding the appointment of CJ, why didn't the NJC fight GEJ when he rejected Justice Salami despite court ruling and NJC recommendation?

U people quote the constitution when it favours u and rejects it when its against u.

Come and control NJC, Police, Army, court ruling, and NCAA from Otueke or Okirika let us see how it will work.

God gives and takes away power

DeCleff:
The problem with u is that u are condemning Ameachi for escaping the bullet targeted at him instead of condemning those who pulled the triger.

The presidency hijacked pdp through their foot soldier Wike from Ameachi, the suspended from the party, they attempted to impeach him with 5 lawmaker. Do u expect Ameachi to also hand over the state judiciary to them?

If those claiming to love Rivers people should have allowed Ameachi to appoint a chief judge of his choice for peace to reign. But they chose to use NjC to fight Ameachi knowing that he will never give in.

When the same sets of people were burning down courts in Etche and Ahoada to stop the courts from prosecuting them, where were the NJC?

Now, let me see how they can influence the NJC from Otueke and Okirika.

DeCleff:
Why was the courts shut in R/S? They used federal might (NJC) to stop the courts from sitting and u are blaming Ameachi.

U recommended someone to the governor and he said no, i want another person as chief judge, why not leave alone for peace to reign?

Guy blame NJC for what happened in Rivers state and not Ameachi