₦airaland Forum

originbm:
Haha,my bro,this is just fun and informative...there is no rancour,believe me i actually admire u...maybe one day we'll really meet...
1.2 of the links i gave u are for 2014,including the one for edo state.
2.If u r on conhess 9,then u have been promoted,mls dont start on conhess 9.give me a link that has ever advertised mls on conhess 9.
3.U said optometrists dont consult in private cinics....hahaha....i will advice u to at least read up b4 u write...Optometrists are the only health care professionals(aside of medical doctors and dentists) dat are LEGALLY permitted to diagnose,integrate clinically,prescribe both topical and systemic drugs whether therapeutically or diagnostically,prescribe aids and lenses,and prove the full spectrum of clinical care...do u need a link to optometrist enablement act?
4.Refracting in itself is a specialty.Its one of richest proceedure in eye care....ophthalmologists make the bulk of their cash from refraction....how many ocular surgeries do u think is performed by the average ophthalmologist in a yr?
5.The only proceedure that an optometrist is not permitted to perform in nigeria is surgery.That is the precint of the ophthalmologist just like refaction is the precint of the optometrist.
6.Optometrist refer not only to ophthalmologists when necessary,but to neurologist or pcp...
7.Opticians are better called dispensing optics professionals.They dispense prescriptions written by the optometrist or ophthalmologist.And they are trained to interprete prescriptions and dispense the prescriptions just like a pharmacist dispenses drugs.They dont refract.Only optometrists and ophthalmologists refract,even though ophthalmologists are not very good in it.
8.Have u ever been to an eye clinic?u think in a private eye clinic u can differentiate between the optometrist and ophthalmologist?
9.Ophthalmologist only come in when some serious situations that may require general anaesthesia presents.In many optometry clinics,opthalmologists are only called when surgical services are needed...look up optometric eye clinics...u should.
10.Optometrists are primary eye care practitioners.Find out what it means.
11.Am sorry,wat do u mean by medical lab consulting?do u carry out diagnosis and institute treatment?dont make me laugh....medical rehabilitation comes b4 mls...sorry,but thats the truth....
12.I have told u the reason for the apparent disinterest of optometry in public service..its wat it is...
13.The apparent trouble u guys have is dat u have not seen mega eye clinics...get to abuja,port or Lagos...
14.How can a medical lab scientist consult when he is not legally permitted to open a clinic?do u now consult in a lab?This is wonderful...Optometrists own eye clinics,a medical lab scientist cannot own a clinic,and a lab is not meant for consultation,or do u buy cards for lab test now?
15.Optometry ,has always been an independent profession...they hv not shown any willingness to enter into public service,but things are starting to change now...as some are now interested in public service...they hv achieved more than any other health care professions in areas in which they are genuinely interested...
17.It seems like u didnt understand noa's comment....Optometrists are not begging to be primary eye care professionals.They are already primary eye care practitioners legally.They are complaining that the rivalry btw them and ophthalmologist is preventing them from playing their roles in TEACHING HOSPITALS.In other settings they perform their functions of primary eye care practitioner,both in private and state hospitals...Ophthalmologists dont want to start sharing consulting powers with them in the teaching hospitals.
18.Even our student doctors go on outreach in their 500 level to communities where they treat ocular disorders of both refractive and pathological origin...
so....
19.My brother we r just gisting...we are all in the same game...but sha check out facts and no dey make me repeat points i hv already made...
we aint fighting,we just gisting...in fact take one bottle of star,i go pay.....

good evening sir...I don wait for that bottle of star tire(e be like say u be 419ner oooo)ok u win for the argument for here(DE trend) make we continue part 2 for trend whay I believe ur go open kukuma invite me(optometry vs mls)...but shun rivalry and for d love of informing the public.mls entry salary is currently conhess 9(but yet to be implemented across nigeria,currently in some FMC(s) and all teaching hospitals) and as an intern I was paid conhess 8 step 2(jokes or lies apart) and believe me when I say mls is a very interesting profession and also lucrative...as for optometry, I believe its a very nice profession too but like seriously,u guys need to step up your game in d public sector and put in serious minded persons to head and take d profession to d next level for d sake of fresh graduates who can't afford to open up dia private clinic#handshake#thank u sir for your lecture on d diff b/w optometrist and ophthamologist

originbm:
Bro this is a simple issue,just type this on google"Optometry vs pharmacy vs mls salary scale on conhess"Just type it.
1.One thing is that southern CMDs have this resentment for optometrists which make them not take them for internship.thats just professional rivalry.
2.I think their governing body dont care because the situation gives them cheap source of labour.
3.But make no mistake about it,optometry internship,and pharmacy internship are the only ones fully recognised in nigeria among health care professionals excluding medicine and dentistry.
4.If u doubt me ,dial up the requirements for nysc service on the net and u would see that only four profession's internship schemes are made prerequisite for youth service and those are:medicine,dentistry,optometry and pharmacy.U can check it out.
5.That CMDs dont absorb them is because of spite.And it is illegal.Hospitals in the north and middlebelt do,probably because eye diseases are more endemic there.
6.Military establishments do and pay them exactly like medical doctors and more than pharmacists.
7.There is no situation in which a pharmacist can be paid more than an optometrist in hospitals...and in eye hospitals and military hospitals ODs are paid more.
8.The internet is there,check these things out...Check out the issues that led to the creation of conmess/conhess scheme.Check out optometry grade in 2008.it was exactly same as dat of medical doctors.In nma's 14 point secular,the fact that optometry was recieving exacly same salary as themselves was one of thier grouse...check these facts out...

nice point sir....spoken like a true optometrist..but I must say that most of the points you outlined just prove my own points(dat NIGERIA is the WORST place to practise optometry,making oda younger health professions BETTER than it in NIGERIA).for instance in point 1 u made it clear that internship for optometrist are difficult because most CMDS resent the profession which proves the point that your professional body/heads are not strong(bros every federal/govt owned hospital across NIGERIA have slots for aspiring mls interns....your point 2 further magnified d possibility/reason of an OD to opt for mbbs (which once again means that Nigeria is not a GOOD place to practice optometry and thus you can't for the love of GOD question an OD that chooses to go for mbbs)....as for ur point 3, I only have 3words to say sire :BIG FAT LIE. As for point 4...how old is the governing bodies of pharmacy,optometry and mbbs/dentistry compared to mls and radiology/radiography?if actually you are working/have ever hunted for job before, you would have recognised that in d adverts, d usually write 'vacancy for post of medical laboratory TECHNICIAN instead of medical laboratory SCIENTIST same goes to when u check jamb brochure(this is because not long ago medical laboratory science was offered as a diploma program and even after it was changed exclusively to a degree program BMLS,d name medical laboratory technician still sticks)....you may be thinking wat point am trying to make,well here it is: we all know that we(NIGERIANS) tend to stick to OLD ways of doing things(for instance,many years after changing power authority in Nigeria,we still use the word NEPA) .so the fact that INTERNSHIP for mls and oda health professions are excluded from d big four(which I strongly believe is based on how old the governing body is) doesn't mean that internship for 'em re not 'prerequisite for NYSC'(go to NYSC camp go present provisional licence see wada dem go allow you enter)and secondly we know that most federal bodies(like nysc,jamb etc) in Nigeria hardly re-edit what d have in their data base to accommodate new trends(dats also a reason). For point 5;CMDS also hate mls but de don't stop our absorption into public service cause our professional body is strong(we initiated creation of johesu)and why won't d be absorbed in the north when people are fleeing from dia? As for dia absorption in d south...well,I don't know oooo(I can't FIT shout,hehehe)..with due respect sir, I have two words for point 6:FAT LIE...For the love of JESUS!! Don't compare pharmacy with optometry sir (pharmacy beat optometry both in salary,job and research opportunities except dat u guys earn more money in private practice)..as for your point 8.I can help but wonder...hmmmm.....an OD spent 6yrs in sch(and is also called a doctor) which is same with a mbbs holder(MD) right?..so if optometry practice is great in nigeria how come OD(s) don't earn d same with MD(s) and y remove dia call duty allowance(mls take calls nd re paid call duty allowance),why are MD(s) kicking them away from public hospitals(d only answer to that is --optometry as a health profession is not fully recognised in NIgeria ...you are comparing optometry with mls,when mls/ oda health workers embark on strike MD(s)/fed govt beg for d strike to end but what happens when optometrists strike huh?,infact how many times have NOA embarked on strike for the sake of its members sir?... .....BUT honourable originbm....considering the fact that NOA is like 25years old and MLSCN is just 11years old, don't you think mls is doing just fine?,even better than optometry did 14years back(NOA was 11yrs then)...PLS don't get me wrong sire,Optometry is a very WONDERFUL n NOBLE profession( I THINK it ranked #12 in terms of professional courses in d world)and believe me when I say i have plenty respect for you guys...outside Nigeria optometry may be next/equal to mbbs,but here in Nigeria optometry is d LEAST LUCRATIVE HEALTH profession in OUR PUBLIC sector(don't wanna talk about private sector,because una fit d make money for dia pass odas but definitely not mls)...THANK sir

originbm:
Hahahah....u say dat the starting salary for a medical lab scientist is wat?Medical lab scientists are the least paid in nigerian health profession.they start from conhess 7.Are u really working at all?Perhaps u dont know that it was only recently dat they stopped paying optometrists call duty?Just type up conhess salaries....Optometry is the highest paid health profession aside of medicine.Only pharmacy compares with them....They pay radiographers much more than mls not to talk of optometry.....
Optometry body is tepid because most practitioners make money from independent practice....In independent practice can u compare mls with optometry?Mls no join at all...even physiotherapy is better than them....
Eye hospitals and military establishments pay optometry interns exactly wat they pay medical doctors...its just that majority of the hospitals are in the north and middle belt...Many ODs are in private practice,and they make hell..,even more than the average regular hospitals...mls is not in the equation at all....dats y they are carrying johesu on their head,because if federal govt no pay them,no level for them...
And to tell u ,guys that interned in national eye hospital last year were paid 171k per month.So u know say no be beans....
Do u know dat most ophthalmologists are in independent practice?Only few work in govt hospitals?And i tell u dat the highest paid health workers mibus medical doctor are optometrists.go check it up.
Not only that ,when mls graduate want to lecture they start from graduate assistant,when optometrists wants to lecture he starts from lecturer 2 just like medical doctors...i.e he jumps graduate assistant,assistant lecturer and goes straight to lecturer 2....get ur facts right.

well spoken sire.....mls are not on cohess 7 but was formerly on cohess 8 step 2,bt currently mls starting salary is currently on cohess 9 step 2 and wit due respect I shud be asking you wada you re actually working at all and so optometrists are not bin paid call duty allowances?...hahaha(too bad for 'em ooo)and abeg which hospital pay radiologist higher than mls and u can't for the love of God jump from graduate assistance to lecturer without u msc...U get ur FACTS right

optm:
. Really med lab salary bigger? Bros go get ur facts right. Even optometry interns on fed scale re on cohess9. Nd their entry pay is same as d med bt cal duty allowances nd odas allowances mks it higher. Frm reliable source i hv gat my info

gud day sir....thnk u sir for your critics but if u re really in the medical profession,please kindly list the federal hospitals that employ optometry interns/optometrists nd kindly list how many universities(both state and federal) awarding dr of optometry in nigeria ,I work at ucth,and I can confidently say dat d don't take optometry interns/optometrist(d make use of dia optomologist(specialist mbbs holders in optometry) in fact in ALMOST all of the fmc(s) in nigeria I don't fink d absorb opt interns and ,med lab scientists are paid call duty allowance(too) as we take calls....hazard allowance(same amount for all health workers ,5000naira) and until recently teaching allowance(same for all health workers around 8000 sumfin naira)....and abeg no de lie oooo......opt interns are on LESS than conhess 8 step 2 not to sure abt dia starting salary though...but d issue be say which /hw many federal/govt hopitals de absorb opt interns. dia interns end up mostly in private hospitals/clinics( I have opt colleagues that graduated alongside wit me and d only health workers dia interns are on cohess 9 is pharmacy(apart from mbbs interns as house officers are not on cohess salary scale) ....so I have more than FACTS sire.....have a wonderful day

originbm:
Just know this:A Doctor of optometry cannot go back to write jamb to enter medicine...Either he failed out of optometry school or stopped half way...Its impossible that an OD will go back to write jamb....Bsc Biochemistry,maybe...OD,no way.So d guy is just taking you for a ride...

mr boss man I hate arguing....d person in question have already commented on this trend abt his DE admission into medicine and as for his utme admission,I saw his admission letter with my eyes....am a medical laboratory scientist(practising) in a federal teaching hospital but I still went for DE just to read mbbs(u and I know that a medical laboratory scientist starting salary is slightly higher than an optometrist ,dia professional body is d weakest in medical field) ..so mr boss, mbbs and optometry aiint same and if you are truely an optometrist u probably would know that Nigeria is d worst place to practise optometry(I mean no disrespect boss),how much do de pay dia interns(optometry)?....broda when u go to to hospitals(federal) u see optomologist(mbbs graduates dat became specialist in optometry dpt) so me no blame d guy for opting for mbbs after optometry and I don't doubt him,cos I saw his admission letter into year 1 and in his PUDE screening photocard I saw course studied: optometry...happy sunday boss

gab2reign:
I've been admitted into college of medicine.........*double admission* with PUTME and PUDE. I scored 81 and 78 respectively. Double admission, double Doctor. #Optometry and # medicine. The glory goes to God.

odez i site u

omodave:
Greetings,

I sense some things in the huz, congrat! If u hv not been admitted pls calm ur nerves down

is
more list coming?

Cfabz:
.....@ chidalius....i dont wanna bliv dat u didnt get mbbs...cos u av been veri active.....lets wait 4 d list 2 b in uniben portal...dont lose hope dear

nah.....cant lose hope,i must get ooo

Cfabz:
I had 80 nd my frend had 78.....we got MBBS.....even ppl far lower got it...plss check ..u might b lucky

should we be expecting more list?....no admission offered yet#butstillhopeful#

Pinkytracy:
[size=26] Please, somebody should help me with uniben past DE questions [/size]

send as much as available to pinkytracy2007[at]gmail.com

God bless you

wat cus r u goin 4?

indo87com:
I gotta feeling dat da list ll come out dis wk (either tomorrow or on friday)! Da prophet has spoken!

na tb joshua tell you?

Temmi001:
@Op,NOUN ranks 20th??then FCE,Sambisa should rank 2nd!
This Op must be high on 'Dr. Iguedo Goko cleanser'!

hahahaha.....I dey tells you!!!

Donfamous:
Did I hear someone say bullcrap!!!

bullcrap indeed!!!!!

Madumere17:
Yup @chidarlus..lol..nw peeps dn dy add dere state of origin..nw sum pple go dy wish say dy re frm d north..@linzo i c u

me too......blue runs in my vein,wish d re frm d north...hehehe

Linzo:
House what are my chances of geting admission in uniben i applied with HND Upper credit and scored 50%, am from delta state i graduated from Banking and finance i also apply for the same course

yea....but depend solely on d general performance of those dat sat for d exam

Madumere17:
Owk o..tnk God d epl s bck..it shuld partialy tke ma mynd off al of vis#blue blood

Chelsea?

Madumere17:
Vis tin s qettin mre complex by d minute..@lamuel vat 72% s it 4 jst mbbs or general??

depend on general performance of each dpt

nelsondean9:
Help me tell them boss

help you tell them watin?.......him talk say high score d important. And d give admission on MERIT and based on catchment and ELDs

nelsondean9:
Help me tell them boss

help you tell them watin?.......him talk say high score d important. And d give admission on merit and based on catchment and ELDs

According to lamuel uniben adhere strictly on NUC's guildline of merit,catchment and ELDs .. There have always been conflicting statement on
this topic but let me enlighten you a little.
Firstly,uniben catchment areas are
Edo,Delta,Akwa ibom,cross rivers,rivers and
Bayelsa and ELDs(education less developed or disadvantaged states) are Adamawa, Bauchi,
Bayelsa, Benue, Borno, Cross River, Ebonyi,
Gombe, Jigawa, Kaduna, Kano, Kastina, Kebbi,
Kogi, Kwara, Nasarawa, Niger, Plateau, Rivers,
Sokoto, Taraba, Yobe, and Zamfara. Candidates
from these states are given special concession for
admission.but I think these criterias are used only when a lot of people score roughly d same score and one is needed for instance assuming mr A(from taraba) and mr B(from abuja) score 69 and d need to take just one person that score 69(even if mr A scored 67 and mr B scored 69), mr A will be chosen because he comes from ELDs while mr B is from education developed state.OR let's say mr D(from crossriver) 59 and mrs E(from kaduna) scored 62, d may end up giving mr D in preference to mrs E admission because crossriver happens to be a member of ELDs and also in d catchment area of uniben while mrs E only happen to come from a state dat is a memeber of ELDs ....same goes for catchment areas

Lamuel7:
UNIBEN is one skul dat adhere to the FMOE/NUC admission guidelines of MERIT, CATCHMENT and ELDS. Ur admission is not dependent on ur high score or grades alone. If u scored high wit a good result, ur chances are high but not a guarantee, like I said, oda tins do play. All u guys shud be doing is to pray to whoever u serve for d rules to favour you. As for The MBBS peeps, urs is complicated cos the admission quota is always less, so u guys gat to pray hard.. God can make them review policies for ur sake.. If u score below 72 and u re not from catchment or ELDS , hmmmm! Only God can say but I will tel u sincerely to Zero ur mind but things can change if God wants them to. I greet the house

God bless you bros............i greet you

nelsondean9:
i didnt say dey dnt give#nd av u asked urself y d list z delaying??Like i said, the management has gotten their pude students even before d screening....I dnt bliv on much tlk!The End Shall Tell

uncle nelson if d management has gotten their pude students even before the screening......dont you think the admission list would have been out by now?........d list is delaying because they are working on it(senate have to seat first and fix cut off for each department followed by drafting out the admission list and forwarding it to jamb for approval)and u and i know plenty people sat for the exam........finally uniben is experiencing transition in power(change of vc)....so my big bros nelson dia is no BIG CONSPIRACY BY UNIBEN TO DEPRIVE DESERVING INDIVIDUALS OFF OF THEIR ADMISSION#justhopeinGod#

nelsondean9:
Lol u guys really ar really funny! Uniben might end up giving someone dat got 50% admission nd not admitting or perhaps gives someone else who got 69%+ another course different frm wat dey applied# pude score z not d only criteria for admission...d result/grade used in applying also counts, catchment area not exclusive...and most especially, God z d core criteria for pude admission...so those that got 70-80% as claimed might end up being admitted to another course...so keep on praying cos even before d screening, uniben management already knw who to admit

d possibility of someone of score 50 to be chosen in preference to someone of score 70-80(even though d person of score 50 came out wit first class and person of score 70-80 came out with second class upper ) is highly unlikely (except say God don talk say na like dat him want it and secondly d person muSt get very long leg*nigerian factor* )and for d record, uniben management still give pude admission based on merit boss

[quote
author=emperortony post=27220307]Just wish this list is out early
enough, just to end this unnecessary tension. Am getting sick of the
wait. Whether or not we are admitted don't let it dampen your spirit,
cause what matters most is not the first chapter of our lives, but the
last.[/quote]spoken like a true believer...u re indeed blessed

Madumere17:
@chidarlus wats d highest score u ve heard?

I have heard and seen 80..78...69...72.....all sat for mbbs

Madumere17:
@chidarlus na God go bless u..cos al d tlk buh pple scoring high nd nt getting admitted nd vat dere re sum oda tins dy consider aside frm scores rily qot me tinkin..

no mind dem...apart from one dude dat claimed he scored 79 and was denied admission into mbbs,every oda persons admitted last year have two things in common(d scored seventy something and d all graduated with 2'1) apart from a girl that rumour has it scored around fifty something(probably by God's grace/long leg(s) tinz,na she and God sabi).....same last 2years and 3years ago,every persons admitted into mbbs scored 64 and above ...so in summary,uniben gives admission to majority of high scorers(those within or above cut-off)...above all God almighty have the final say

Consigliere:
@ikevin
She may/maynt knw d powers dt b...but i believe that Uniben still admit based on merit...last yr only 8 candidates were selected for MBBS

on point!!!!.....uniben admit majority of high scorers......I believe that all d admitted mbbs aspirants scored really high

nelsondean9:
I heard d pude admission wont b solely on pude scores cos d of poor performance...and dats y its taking time

its a lie bro........even if everybody failed d exam,d will give majority of high scorers admission(and few persons who get low score whay knw ogas at d top),so no allow person deceive u.....and for d record,some people really scored high