₦airaland Forum

lionshare:
You're dodging logic. You can't scream "unaffordable" while refusing every valid comparison. Compared to West African countries—same income range—Nigeria’s electricity is cheaper. You dismissed that. So I showed BRICS and MINT—richer nations—and guess what? Still cheaper. That’s consistency, not cherry-picking.

You said "affordable means no one groans." Come on. People complain about bills everywhere. That’s not a measure, that’s emotion.

Yes, minimum wage matters—but you're using it to block any real analysis. Countries with higher wages pay more per kWh. So what’s the excuse?

You can't argue price without comparison. You can't ignore data and claim logic. Nigeria has some of the lowest rates regionally and globally. That’s a fact, whether you like the cost or not.

Drop the goalpost shifting. Either debate with data or don’t debate at all.

Alol !! Affordable is a subject of purchasing power which is highly determine by minimum wage, thats fact not me

Nigerian economy as bad as it is the richest in west africa, therefore insinuating same income range is untrue and even a shame

You can't posit cheap in Brics or Us ... base on your useless naira value convertion i made that explicitly clear, Govt try to play clever esp. in this area

When it comes to juxtaposing their is no true value comparison without " Minimum wage" as scale of measurement ...
countries with higher wages might pay more per kwh, But you forget they dont pay for darkness and "zapping" of units is non existence. you pay per use accurately beat that

You can compare prices all you want But you cant posit "cheap" using naira rate .., cheap is relative

If Nigeria have the lowest rate, considering our Poverty rate should it have being higher ! egbami
Globally Nig have one of the poorest electricity generation so why the heck should the rate not commensurate low

what data man, you can't posit ,"cheap" outside minimum wage. no prof. will dare

DiasGodinHeaven:
Yes they are DSTV stations. They are not stealing or tapping the stations from DSTV but they are legally taking it from multi choice but giving out for cheap money. I watched all Sports which includes Tennis which you can only watch with DSTV premium package only.

oh ok, what package and price are you paying

DiasGodinHeaven:
Of course in the last one year I have not subscribed my DSTV.
My SLTV is doing the work very well.

please care to share stations on the SLTV, and are they not repetitive as Dstv

I dont know why i dont just have any pity for this ones.

Okechinwadike:
my brother the native doctor that did the job for Tinubu really strong I swear 95percent of yorubas are supporting the man ,even when they are really suffering . For 2 solid yrs nothing to show and am supporting the person, even if it's my brother i doubt

Naa this junction me nd you go disagree, i am yoruba and i castigate TINUBU everyday despite i voted him

if you look into the past two years, the popular voices that have called out Tinubu the most are the Yorubas

Recently the 1st lady and Tinubu were seen in the East dancing and being celebrated, can you recall any event in south remi or Tinubu dance among the people in south in 2yrs

Tinubu now comes to lagos low key, no more meeting the crowd, cos he knows yorubas can embrass him on tv. lets keep tribalism off the conversation

nairalanda1:
Actually they do. The senate president lists among his successes as a governor adding villages in his state to the grid. If they were as callous as you say, by now the government would have long since been removed by a true people's revolution ( my choice and a good idea)

The problem is , most of you don't want to pay for electricity at the market price. As at now, only band A customers pay for power at the market prices.

Government in turn is scared to charge for power at market prices . Because they are politicians who think of power before good decisions

It costs 170 naira to make one unit of power..80 percent of consumer pays below 170 naira per unit. No profit, no improvement.

Ghana, ivory coast and even South Africa pay at market price and have better power supply than us. And it is not as if they are rich....Ghananians disconnect from the mains supply deliberately sometimes to cut power costs.


Before you start, note that I do not mean that tinubu is a good leader or that corruption is not part of the problem..I am saying that all our problems with the power sector begin with lack of a cost reflective tarrif.

When you say it cost 170 naira to produce one unit of energy please what source came up with these and where as it being verified

if govt or disco are putting #170 as actual cost by there modus operandi can any of them be trusted,



companies lie on financial report to evade tax they could as well lie to inflate prime cost just to expliot and maximize gain

I ask again have that #170 being verified or it is just what they tell us

Okechinwadike:
The yeye man is really making things difficult for all this useless urchins in social media defending him. Give this man more 30yrs, it will even get worst thats exactly what some yorubas want una well done oooo

Between the yeye old man and those urrchins defending him, it is hard to tell who is doing terrible job the most

They claim Tinubu reforms are working and economic is stable, ask them to show evidence, they will resort to obedient this, peter obi in Anambra, spilling gibberish

lionshare:
You're shifting the goalposts again, because no two countries will ever have identical population sizes, household incomes, or purchasing power indexes. Even when compared to other West African countries—which typically have lower incomes—Nigeria still delivers cheaper electricity. And when you expand the comparison to MINT or BRICS nations, using population size or economic scale as benchmarks, Nigeria still stands out with the most affordable electricity. This is especially true for Band A rates, which are the least subsidized—indicating that the actual cost is even lower than what Band B rates reflect.

You are the one just being illogical here, you couldnt even juxtapose "cheap" as your instrument of scale are not tenable

Affordable is what people pay without groaning, check customers on Band B who finds 20k per week on a interrupted electricity funny, can you pay it cheerful

You can't displace the true measure of affordability which is minimum wage and per capital income

Those Mint and Brics nation you keep reiterating check there minimum wage and per capital income .. what the convenience rate to pay $200, $300 bills do the same for Nigeria and lets see you validate cheap here

helinues:
Wait, is there even any sense in creating a new political party when the election is just 2 years away. Where would they start from?

whoever recruited you though, when exactly was Apc formed & registered ahead of 2015 election

lionshare:
Initially, you advised against comparing the US and Nigeria, and now you’re taking the same stance again. Regardless, even when compared with MINT and BRICS countries, Nigeria remains among the cheapest, tied with Turkey.

One the essence of stats is for comparism, however my point is if you want to posit " cheap" dont use another currency rate

The only valid means to posit " cheap" in any country is the currency value and fixed minimum wage of that nation ... those are the valid scale

hope its clearer now

joromii:
Your pice might be too much, I don't know. A 2005 honda pilot for 6m. Add 1m to that and you can get like 2010-2013 MDX which is a better luxury SUV.

so whats the realistic market price, e get why i dey ask

lionshare:
The comparison is between Nigeria and other West African countries, not Nigeria and the USA. West African nations share more similar socio-economic conditions with Nigeria, including comparable average household income ranges.

I have given you a standard example, juxatopose and lets see

Generally in life, thinking progressive you compare yourself with people above you not people below

Most of the west africa countries you are so fixated on her baby countries to Nig. they even look up to us for handout no west africa countries have the resources/wealth of Nig. so comparism is unbalance even to them

nnekaike:
yes, but he has a very good loan plan for cars.
That's just his marketing tactics, nothing serious

i heard his business is in the north, but op is in lagos

lionshare:
Using the Band B rate, Nigeria, alongside Ghana, has one of the lowest electricity tariffs in West Africa.

it still doesnt addup, if you are comparing two countries, currencies will be the main scale but even at that we cant get a true value cos of value rate and inflation

for instance in america, You might hear a friend say he pays $200 for monthly electricity ... someone like you dash to your calculator n scream Nepa is cheap in 9ja

But thats not how to look at it, the average minimum monthly salary in the US is 5,455 the propensity to pay $200 in Us is soft

$200 in Nig is #320,000 whereas minimum wage is just 70k, people on band B in Nig pay as low 20k weekly × 4 its over monthly minimum wage ... so where is cheap

Happy fathers day to the world best Dad, Rip daddy, words cant describe how much i miss you

Thank you for the standard of life you gave to us 💗

bewla:
That's what we fill

But have you ever look to your left

From another standpoint

For once try not to be opposition

Just ask what could be his reason

Dangote see a tomorrow in the Atlantic opening from Tinubu program and key on it build

Now we all can buy Petrol what they say can't be achieved

when you say now we All can buy petrol, what does that even mean

Dangote refinery started 2024, are you saying before then not All can buy petrol @ #197

Despite the Dangote refinery operation is fuel affordable to the average Nigerians, before at Night you see everywhere light up with generator at Night But now even barbers On rechargeable bulb .. is that an improvement

We have refinery and crude But we still import on both side, so whats the celebration about

shinealight:
Let’s see who you would now elect that would give you constant electricity OVERNIGHT, after ALL your leaders kept you in Darkness since 65 years of the country’s nominal Independence. You think say na YAM?
Better put your thinking caps on and utilise the stuff between your ears!

Nigerians are not asking for tew much and we are not asking for overnight Miracle .... what we is a leader that will set us on a trajectory that resonates gradual progress @least

Since Tinubu became president we have upscale in any area, except sharing more money to governors he calls an achievement

lionshare:
Power supply has significantly improved nationwide, particularly in Band A areas, which represent about 15% of the market but consume 40% of the total energy output, along with some Band B areas. However, unless electricity rates reflect true market costs, over 80% of the market will continue to experience unreliable power. The president should take the bold step of fully deregulating the power sector. Despite existing subsidies, the disruptions caused by inconsistent supply far outweigh the benefits of cheap, subsidized electricity. The entire market must be metered, with all consumers charged rates that accurately reflect the cost of supply. Power can be made available to everyone, but it comes at a cost. Moreover, as Band A areas expand, economies of scale could drive prices down, making electricity more affordable over time.

On what basis/scale did you posit Nigeria electricity is cheap to consumers

helinues:
Are you judging this government solely about electricity?

You judge from;
Insecurity

Agric growth

currency performance

Infrastructure delivery

Streetinvestor2:
This man finished nigeria economy in just 2 yrs.I was not happy the way he stole the election but after the judiciary did thr last pronouncement. I said no wahala that nobody can be worst the Buhari based on the economy. This man used 2 yrs to prove me wrong by all statistics indicator based on the economy. He now made thet devil Buhari look like a saint.
How can anyone be worst than Buhari. This has made nigeria pitiable in the abundant wealth. Families can not afford food for thr children. The 10,20,50 denominations of our money is now useless .
I now feel bad for supporting the floating and removing subsidy because he has mismanaged the gain that it was suppose to bring All he has promised which is to cushion the effects are all lies.Instead they are looting the country dead

We plenty on that lane, Nobody can be worst than Buhari, Tinubu is just working relentlessly to make Buhari worst, "a beta"

90% of nigerians we jump back at buhari worst if God use that option prank us 🤣

They said subsidy is not sustainable but lavish spending on re current expenditure by politicians is sustainable, more money to renovate aso rock, new private jet, more money to governors and senators without scruntiny

Weyre remove subsidy and started sharing 2kg rice ... as cushion effect 🤣🤣 awon eleribu

Naa people like WE seun target to save pocohantås, it was her wish, she came up with the ideas

Amazingly " We" are not the ones complaining infact i don dey add meat for head 🤣🤣 everyday naa holiday

dragging folake4u to the thread,

seun which kind wahala be dis naw, cant one be brief again, naa from long talk flirting dey start

helinues:
But I didn't send you to be labouring in vain or did I?

who you carry go hospital, none of you reach to defend Tinubu glaring failure

i can see you segregating domestic and foreign debt, you're so dunnb you dont even know Total debt attributable to each govt is sum of both

helinues:
Use your own AI there and post the results you got .

You are the one getting paid to defend a failure you should be doing more,

For mere fact the OP said "not accurate" doesnt mean its a lie, how can it be a lie

if not combine, head 2 head nko, which predecessor Tinubu no go borrow pass.

I dont just get you guyz still supporting Tinubu is 30k really that much

SoftSport:
Obi’s claim is not true, Tinubu did not borrow more than the last three presidents and to be fair, he’s really trying his best to fix the economy and move the country forward.

How is it not true, even the OP couldnt discredit accurately

Lets even say Tinubu did not borrow more loans than his 3 predecessors combine, one by one nkor ... which one Tinubu no borrow pass at the rate we are going

When you guyz claiming Tinubu is fixing the economg how exactly, GDP and per capital income is not rising

Favourable trade is not on the rise

Crude production is not close to max,

Business are not finding cost of operation convenient, even loan interest is suicidal

So what are the indexes you see that make you delusional Tinubu is tryin to fix the economy, what as improved

richiemcgold:
I can still recollect how Tinubu was really sidelined during Buhari's era. Man was totally schemed out and he almost lost political relevance. Some people even predicted he was on his way out of APC to SDP. But here he is today, he is the president of the federal republic of Nigeria. This is a big lesson for those who care to learn from others.

Hogwash !! Power is transient is a message specifically address to leaders and not to the people

What ever happened to Tinubu around Buhari govt posit Life naa time, where is Buhari and his sychopancies

Did Tinubu learn a thing, he is living like god deciding everybody fate, who becomes speaker who stays as governor

Kindly tell him naa " Time" whether he wants or not he will leave power or power will leave him ... he should buy a place next to Abacha

Lanretoye:
Na eko ibanuje some people want to Dey drink all their life

can someone please drop the carton Tinubu urinating on his zommbies and they claim it is rain

azidomedogo:
With the Way Pst Tunde Bakare has been abusing BAT on his telecast. Kai I no trust this people I swear

What if Tinubu is the one inviting this people over, would they want to turn the president invite down

Regardless of what they discuss, Tinubu end game is to take picture with them and his media team will pass it off as endorsement

Tinubu is playing mind game with Nigerians ... he wants Nigerians to give up ahead of 2027, kill their spirit when they see their activist taking selfie with me

i wont be surprise if they are trying to lure Mr macaroni to visit the president, so they can pass it as endorsement ... mind game

HeatSeeker:
We have to give it to the Jagaban 🙌🙌🙌. He steam rolled everybody and there is nothing anyone can do about it. He is the god of modern Nigerian politics.

when Buhari was president, whenever he is in daura do we not see prominent Northerners pay him visit

why do Apc guyz like taken Nigerians for a fool ..... Tinubu failed so much he is chasing endorsement.
Even at this rate Tinubu will soon snap with Portable

lebete3000:
I won't lie, if the new coalition fields Mr. Peter Obi, Jagaban shouldn't bother to run.

But I know that man from Dubai no go gree, and would help Tinubu mess it all up for them 😂😂😂

So Jagaban can go to bed and sleep like a baby, cos once again 2027 issa goal!

if they field Peter obi, highest he will win in south But lose in widely in the North cos Obi will disrupt the zoning arrangement 8yrs

Naa for south una fit dey blow all that nonsense big grammar, no zoning, it is archaic, North no sense una english.

it pays North to jejely vote Tinubu and take power 2031 .. south make una dey blow big big grammar upandan

richmond500:
Now let me explain this to u.
1. Fubara never wanted to become a governor, he was not interested but Wike forced it on him because Wike knows Fubara was the only one he could control.

2. When the problem started, Fubara wanted to resign but few persons told him not to. This mean the position of a Gov'nor was not a do or die affair for him

3. When the state allocation was withheld, a prominent member of the Tinubus cabinet, the finance minister paid a visit to the Gov'nor. Whatever they discussed was not disclosed.

4. Tinubu was neutral when SIM was pressing Wikes neck and Wike was fighting for his political survival, but immediately the supreme court gave Wike power, Tinubu sacked everyone and took control of the state. This should tell u Tinubu has no interest in allowing Wike sack SIM and take control of the state.

5. After state of emergency, Tinubu had a meeting with SIM without the presence of Wike, inside source confirmed Wike was not happy with the meeting.

6. Wike in an interview boasted that even if the emergency rule was upturned, the law-makers will not pass the budget if SIM didn't do the right thing, less than a week later, Tinubu sent the budget to the national assembly for approval.

7. Tinubu held another close door meeting with SIM yesterday without inviting Wike.

Your problem is you dont even listen to yourself,

Fubara "never" wanted to be governor, if no be juju why will a man that served a master not want to be a master someday ...common sense naw
No be say Fubara don pass the position, why will a rookie Fubara not want to a "Governor" wike force him ... really ?? 🤣 dem don dey force horse drink water

2. I cant believe you are this naive, how many politician don resign as governor in history wey Fubara wan "copy" 🤣. wike force him to be Governor, supporter force him to remain Governor But you believe nothing force him to asslick Tinubu

3. If Tinubu was ever Neutral, River crisis wont even begin to start with, Wike and Tinubu underestimated Fubara initially but seein the way he outsmart Wike, Tinubu just had to step in to save Wike ... the supreme court judgement didnt take anything away from Fubara it was Tinubu the took away power from Fubara

4. Bro forget all the cooked rumour, whatever meeting Tinubu had with Fubara was to coerce and subjugate him for Wike ... remember the 1st visit to abuja they gave him undertaken to sign.

5. The budget Tinubu sent to national assembly to sign you think they havent padded it in Wike interest, so you believe its same Fubara budget they pass

At these point, how old are you self, your naivety reeks of 9. e be like say you just dey follow politician