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The United States Institute of Peace (USIP) on Wednesday released its electoral violence risk assessment in Nigeria.

The agency suggested possible escalation of electoral violence before the 2019 general elections.

The outcome of the U.S. agency’s research findings equally identified Rivers, Kano, Kaduna and Ekiti states, among others, with high risk of political violence in Nigeria.

The research scope, which covered between March and April 2018, was conducted in eight states, including Kano, Kaduna, Ekiti, Adamawa, Plateau, Anambra, Lagos and Rivers states.

http://news-af.op-mobile.opera.com/news/detail/e75e246e00bbf19e82df8cbf7afa6f91_ng?share=1&country=ng&language=en

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This is a clear proof that Jesus didn't recognise Islam and Muhammad.

Jesus said "And this Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in ALL the WORLD as a witness to all NATIONS and then the END shall come" (Mat. 24:14).

The Bible passage teaches that Jesus expected the Gospel to be preached throughout the world (Arab nations inclusive) from his time till the end of the world. This means he has no hand in the coming of Islam and Muhammad.

We can actually guess who sent Islam from the way the Qur'an speaks, denying many truths as recorded in the Bible.

Jesus came to bring peace into the world. He said if you are slapped on the right cheek, turn the left also. But Islam came reintroducing violence and said "Fighting is prescribed for Muslims (Quran 2:216). Why would God change from peace to violence?

Come to the true God through Jesus. He said I'm the Way, the Truth and the Life, nobody can come unto God but through me (John 14:6). Till today, Muslims still pray five times daily including asking for the Way. The Muslims of old did the same and died asking for the Way, they do the same today and keep asking endlessly for the Way. Jesus is the Way they are yet to discover. There is no other Way. May God have mercy on them.

Did Jesus recognise Islam or Muhammad? I think the answer is "no".

Jesus in his messages referred to Abraham, Moses, Elijah and other key prophets in the Bible. Even though Muhammad had not come, would Jesus not talk about him, a key figure like him in human history? A man that would make a change for God's worship.

If truly Abraham was the one who built Kaaba, would Jesus not have told the Jews about it? Would Jesus not go there to worship as he did in the Synagogue. One of the reasons the Jews and the Christians didn't believe Muhammad in his time was the claim that Abraham built Kaaba. The Israelites were not told by their ancestors that Abraham, their father, went to Mecca and built Kaaba there. Why would they believe in claim they knew quite well was untrue.

None of the prophets in the Bible referred to Kaaba or went there. If Kaaba had been existing since the time of Abraham as a house of worship, would not the prophets go and worship there? There is no proof that God's people were going to Mecca for worship other than idol worshipers.

It was alleged that the Kaaba was built by the Yemenites for their idols and Muhammad himself said something relating to that:

I heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “Pride and arrogance are characteristics of the rural bedouins while calmness is found among the owners of sheep. Eeman is Yemenite, and wisdom is also Yemenite i.e. the Yemenites are well-known for their true belief and wisdom).” Abu ‘Abdullah (Al-Bukhari) said, “Yemen was called so because it is situated to the right of the Ka’ba, and Sham was called so because it is situated to the left of the Ka’ba.”

~Saheeh Al-Bukhaari, Book of the Virtues of the Prophet and His Companions, Hadeeth No. 3261

There are so many religious killings ongoing in the world. Those behind it are Muslims.

Why is the Islamic God so much interested in taking innocent lives and yet they call Islam a religion of peace?

Is it God, the Creator of the world that would want his creations to be destroyed? Who is the God of Islam?

Read this:

http://news-af.op-mobile.opera.com/news/detail/9dce2ca02103fb71e68c08ae2206d0be_ng?share=1&country=ng&language=en

mujahid777:
Since everything all came to pass as prophesied by the Jewish prophets,you shouldn't be finding it so hard convincing the Jews then.Go and convince them first.

What conviction do they or do you need?

Prophesies come true.

mujahid777:
Are you seriously asking us that question
Aren't the Jews the one you should be asking.Afterall,its their bible you're using.

It is the Muslims who believe in Allah that should answer the question because it is their Allah who wants to pervert the truth. Afterall, it is Arab's Quran you are using.

God inspired His prophets to prophesy the birth and death of Jesus and it came to pass as prophesied. Why would the same God eat his words by denying the death of Jesus. Allah that is dening God's words is not the God of the Bible.

The Quran says Jesus was not killed and that it appears to the people so. It even says someone else was killed in his stead. How true is this?

Hundreds of years before the advent of Jesus there had been prophecies of his BIRTH and DEATH by various prophets at various times. They prophesied how Jesus would be born and killed. God sent those prophets to alert the people of a coming great event in the world. How would the same God say again that Jesus was not killed? It means Allah is not the God of the prophets who gave those prophecies.

THE PROPHECIES AND THE FULFILMENT:

• He would be a descendant of King David (Isaiah 11:1-5; Matthew 1:1-6).

• He would be born in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2; Matthew 2:1).

• One would precede Him who would announce His coming (Isaiah 40:3-5; Malachi 3:1; Matthew 3:1-3).

• His own people would reject Him (Isaiah 53:3; John 1:11).

• A friend would betray Him (Psalms 41:9; John 13:18-30).

• The price for His betrayal would be 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11:12; Matthew 26:15).

• The 30 pieces of silver would buy a potter’s field (Zechariah 11:13; Matthew 27:3-10).

• Wicked people would pierce His hands and feet (Psalms 22:16; Luke 23:33; Luke 24:38-40).

• He would suffer execution but without the breaking of any of His bones (Psalms 34:20; John 19:33-36).

• Others would cast lots for His garments (Psalms 22:18; John 19:23-24).

• He would be buried with the wealthy (Isaiah 53:9; Matthew 27:57-60).

• God would resurrect Him from the grave (Psalms 16:10; Acts 2:30-32).

Allah that says Jesus didn't die must not be saying the truth.

mujahid777:
Continue quoting,here are the full verses;


[Quran 2:232] If you divorce the women, once they fulfill their interim, do not
prevent them from remarrying their husbands, if they reconcile amicably. This
shall be heeded by those among you who believe in God and the Last Day.
This is purer for you, and more righteous. God knows, while you do not know.
[Quran 2:230] If he divorces her (for the third time) , it is unlawful for him to
remarry her, unless she marries another man, then he divorces her. The first
husband can then remarry her, so long as they observe God's laws. These are
God's laws; He explains them for people who know.

Which translation of the Quran did you quote?
I tell you the truth, quranic translation is far worse than Bible versions, yet Muslims say the Quran is one. Are they not translating from the same Arabic text? Why are their translations giving different meanings?

Shakir 2:230] So if he divorces her she shall not be lawful to him afterwards until she marries another husband; then if he divorces her there is no blame on them both if they return to each other (by marriage), if they think that they can keep within the limits of Allah, and these are the limits of Allah which He makes clear for a people who know
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[Pickthal 2:230] And if he hath divorced her (the third time), then she is not lawful unto him thereafter until she hath wedded another husband. [/b]Then if he (the other husband) divorce her it is no sin for both of them that they come together again if they consider that they are able to observe the limits of Allah. These are the limits of Allah. He manifesteth them for people who have knowledge.

[Yusufali 2:230] So if a husband divorces his wife (irrevocably), He cannot, after that, re-marry her [b]until after she has married another husband and He has divorced her. In that case there is no blame on either of them if they re-unite, provided they feel that they can keep the limits ordained by Allah. Such are the limits ordained by Allah, which He makes plain to those who understand.

It is so clear that Allah said a divorced wife can not return to her husband until another man marries her and sleep with her. What a command. You have nothing to argue about, it is so clear, so clear.

mujahid777:
I don't even know of the hadith you've been talking of all along.Anyways,if it's not permitted in the Shariah,then He(SAW) never permitted it; it's that simple.Shariah existed before the compilation of a any hadith.
You said since what Jesus and Muhammad(SAW) reportedly said are different means one is false,I simply used your logic with Jesus and Yahweh.That's what your whole thread is hinged on.

Definitely, Qur'an or Islam is false. The standard of Islam falls short of God's standard of holiness. Please note that apart from the hadith, I also quoted a quranic verse. Is the quran also fabricated. Why would allah permit defiling a woman by another man before she could return to her husband's house? Is that morally acceptable? The true and Holy God, Yahweh said that should not happen. I ask you now, is that not sexual corruption?

mujahid777:
You mean to say that there exists in the Shariah for those who want to remarry a divorced wife,that she has to deliberately marry another man first before going back to her husband
When will you people stop lying
Now back to the question at hand:
Did Yahweh permit divorce?
YES or NO.

Why is it not in Sharia when Allah and Muhammad said so as you could see in the islamic sources I cited?

If it is not in Sharia, it means even humans know that Allah and Muhammad said indescent thing.

I notice you are only talking about divorced wife as if it is the only in item in the OP. WHY?

mujahid777:
Stop drifting away away from the topic.Didnt you just say before that Yahweh won't permit what he hates?

Why should Allah say a woman must first be defiled by another man before her husband can take her back?

It shows Allah is not the true God and that is why is trying to defile you Muslims.

See what Muhammad said:

Hadith and Sira

Sahih Bukhari (063:190) - Muhammad tells a woman that she cannot return to her first husband until she has sexual relations with another man.

What a corrupt statement. And you think Muhammad represented the true God, who said such should not ever happen.

mujahid777:
Deuteronomy 24:1-4 New International Version (NIV)
24 If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he
finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce,
gives it to her and sends her from his house, 2 and if after she leaves his
house she becomes the wife of another man, 3 and her second husband
dislikes her and writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her
from his house, or if he dies, 4 then her first husband, who divorced her, is not
allowed to marry her again after she has been defiled. That would be
detestable in the eyes of the Lord. Do not bring sin upon the land the Lord
your God is giving you as an inheritance.

Good but did you notice the bolded?

Is it the same God that said a wife who had been defiled by another man should not be taken back by her former husband that now allows or forces you muslim to remarry a divorced wife after she has been defiled by another man? Why should Allah say a wife must first be defiled or corrupted by another man before her husband can take her back? Is that not immoral? Is Allah not trying to pitch you against the true God?

I maintain that Yahweh hates divorce. Jesus said it was because of the hardness of Israelites' hearts that God allows such.

Mathew 19:8
Jesus answered, "It was because of your hardness of heart that Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but it was not this way from the beginning

mujahid777:
Hating and permitting are two different things.Moreover,there are other examples where Jesus gave different views from that of the old testament

So God would permit what He hates?

You are just expressing your own view without scriptural backing.

mujahid777:
Didn't Yahweh permit divorce in the old testament?
Using your logic then; the words of Jesus are not the words of Yahweh.

Malachi 2:16

For I hate divorce!" says the LORD, the God of Israel. "To divorce your wife is to overwhelm her with cruelty," says the LORD of Heaven's Armies. "So guard your heart; do not be unfaithful to your wife."

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Nowhere did Yahweh tell the Israelites about Kaaba and no prophets from Israel talked about it or worship there. Were it truly built by Abraham, would Israelites not recognize it? Not even Sarah, Isaac or Jacob went there. Why would Abraham's nuclear family not recognize it talkless the whole of Israel?

guru1234:
Kaaba is also called Baka in the Quran and it was mentioned in the Bible Old Testament as a place of pilgrimage for the believers and I quote;
"Blessed are those whose strength is in you, whose hearts are set on pilgrimage. As they pass through the valley of BAKA, they make it a place of springs; the autumn rains also cover it with pools" Psalm 84 u can read from verse 1

How wrong you are. Baka means "the place of weeping. Besides the Bible passage you quoted talks about the Jews on pilgrimage to Zion and were passing through Baka. Baka was not their destination they were only passing through it. Do you pass through Kaaba to go to Zion?

My friend, Baka is not the same as Kaaba. Educate yourself further here:

http://www.icr.org/article/valley-baca/

Why would anybody say Christians and Muslims worship the same God, when Jesus and Muhammad are not on the same page?

From the following quotes, Jesus is not in support of Islam and Muhammad.

Allah said a divorced woman must marry another man before she could return to her former husband home:

Quran (2:230) - "So if a husband divorces his wife (irrevocably), He cannot, after that, re-marry her until after she has married another husband and He has divorced her..."

Hadith and Sira

Sahih Bukhari (063:190) - Muhammad tells a woman that she cannot return to her first husband until she has sexual relations with another man.

Abu Dawud also confirms this rule in two places: 2192 and 2302.

Jesus said:

Whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery? (Luke 16:18)

Jesus said no marriage in heaven:

Mathew 22:30
At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

Allah said:

44:54 "Thus. And We will marry them to fair women with large, [beautiful] eyes",

52:20 "They will be reclining on thrones lined up, and We will marry them to fair women with large, [beautiful] eyes",

56:22 "And [for them are] fair women with large, [beautiful] eyes"

Allah said Jesus is not the Son of God:

The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. God curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! (9:30, Yusif Ali)

Jesus declared himself as the Son of God:


John 10:36
Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Allah said Jesus didn't die:

“That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah”;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;- —Qur’an, sura 4 (An-Nisa) ayat 157-158

Jesus said he would die:

Then said Jesus, Let her alone: against the day of my burying hath she kept this (John 12:7)

Jesus was killed:

John 19:6
When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him (Jesus), they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him: for I find no fault in him.

Let's come to look at it.

Who represent the true God: the COMPASSIONATE and MERCIFUL Christians or the HARSH, SEVERE and HARD Muslims?

Even, morally speaking, who would the sensible people prefer?

greatnaija01:
lol... so his Allah confused his own followers by giving the gospel abi? lol... so his followers are not killing christians and he is watching.... either you and the so called allah are mentally unable to phantom WISDOM.

Allah does not have anything to do with JESUS.

Hello!!!

Did you read the questions with understanding?

Then, in their wake, We followed them up with (others of) Our messengers: We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary, and bestowed on him the Gospel; and We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him Compassion and Mercy. But the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them: (We commanded) only the seeking for the Good Pleasure of Allah; but that they did not foster as they should have done. Yet We bestowed, on those among them who believed, their (due) reward, but many of them are rebellious transgressors. (57:27, Yusif Ali)

Where is the Allah's Gospel bestowed on Jesus what are the contents?

The Quran says "and We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him (Jesus) COMPASSION and MERCY"


Why would Allah ordain in the hearts of Muslims WICKEDNESS, HARSHNESS or SEVERENESS against non-muslims if he ( Allah) and the God of the Christians who ordained them with COMPASSION and MERCY is the same Being?

Quran 48:29

Khan: Muhammad (SAW) is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are severe against disbelievers, and merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and falling down prostrate (in prayer), seeking Bounty from Allah and (His) Good Pleasure. The mark of them (i.e. of their Faith) is on their faces (foreheads) from the traces of (their) prostration (during prayers). This is their description in the Taurat (Torah). But their description in the Injeel (Gospel) is like a (sown) seed which sends forth its shoot, then makes it strong, it then becomes thick, and it stands straight on its stem, delighting the sowers that He may enrage the disbelievers with them. Allah has promised those among them who believe (i.e. all those who follow Islamic Monotheism, the religion of Prophet Muhammad SAW till the Day of Resurrection) and do righteous good deeds, forgiveness and a mighty reward (i.e. Paradise).

Pickthal: Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And [b]those with him are hard against the disbelievers [/b]and merciful among themselves. Thou (O Muhammad) seest them bowing and falling prostrate (in worship), seeking bounty from Allah and (His) acceptance. The mark of them is on their foreheads from the traces of prostration. Such is their likeness in the Torah and their likeness in the Gospel - like as sown corn that sendeth forth its shoot and strengtheneth it and riseth firm upon its stalk, delighting the sowers - that He may enrage the disbelievers with (the sight of) them. Allah hath promised, unto such of them as believe and do good works, forgiveness and immense reward.

Rashad: Muhammad - the messenger of GOD - [b]and those with him are harsh and stern against the disbelievers, [/b]but kind and compassionate amongst themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating, as they seek GOD's blessings and approval. Their marks are on their faces, because of prostrating. This is the same example as in the Torah. Their example in the Gospel is like plants that grow taller and stronger, and please the farmers. He thus enrages the disbelievers. GOD promises those among them who believe, and lead a righteous life, forgiveness and a great recompense.

I have come to discover that so many things in Islam are not real. So many Quranic statements are untrue.

Give your life to Jesus and escape hellfire. Jesus is the only way to the true God(John 14:6). There is a God and there are many gods impersonating God and people worship them as their God

I expect the Muslims to respond.

iamgenius:
Do you expect Paul to leave a text that won't fetch him anything in the book?

Meaning?

We have seen the turning of thy face to heaven (for guidance, O Muhammad). And now verily We shall make thee turn (in prayer) toward a qiblah which is dear to thee. So turn thy face toward the Inviolable Place of Worship, and ye (O Muslims), wheresoever ye may be, turn your faces (when ye pray) toward it. Lo! Those who have received the Scripture know that (this revelation) is the Truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do (Quran 2:144)

It looks as if Allah was rebuking the Jews and the Christians for not facing Kaaba, despite the fact that they knew about it.

Where did Yahweh reveal to the Jews and the Christians to face Kaaba when praying?

Where did Yahweh tell the Israelites about Kaaba and Abraham building it?

If he (Yahweh) didn't tell the Israelites about Kaaba and its builders, how did Allah expect them to know and face it when praying?

godisgood200:
Satan wants to claim every godly man.

Hagar was a surrogate to Sarah, she was never married to Abraham and never left Canaanland Arabia.

Satan as his agents.

Yes, you are right.

Hagar wasn't Abraham's wife. That was the reason God supported Sarah in driving her and her son out of Abraham's family.

Then, why would Abraham follow them to wherever after God had said they should be driven away? Would Abraham disobey God and left Sarah to follow the cast out? Never.

Kaaba was built by pagans to house their 360 idols.

smoy:
re read it again now take much of the time as it required. Ibrahim built on the foundation he meet on ground, no structure what so ever.

If Abraham built Kaaba, why didn't he tell his other children about it? I mean, why is Kaaba associated with Hajrah and Ishmael alone?

Why didn't God tell the Israelites that they should go to Kaaba in Mecca?

Why didn't any prophets in Israel venerate Kabba or even talk about it?

smoy:
i did not said yours was too long Wat i said was the one you quoted was part of the hadith

on your questions; yes if you read the hadith again you will find out that the place was already raised above the level of the normal ground level in that area so to show Abraham the location were the house shall be, no structure was there but are mark of the foundation naturally present. Abraham and Ismail now built on that mark of foundation.

no water was present in that area so it was inhabitable for human, but the dwellers later came and meet Ismail and His mother after the spring of Zam ZAm in that place and recognize them as the owner of that Vally today called Macca.

There is nothing in that hadith to prove that the place was already raised above the level of the normal ground level in that area. What we are made to understand in the hadith is that Kaaba was already there as a place of worship, which Abraham met on ground.

ashjay001:
Same way ur post was irrelevant n misplaced! The bible is a book written by men, for men! Thinking u av a monopoly on God is just plain........

Where did you see Bible in the OP?

We are talking about Islam you are talking about the Bible. If you lack defence on the subject, keep quiet. It is not a must for you to talk. Thank you.

smoy:
the hadith is a very long one i will help you with this and all your question shall be answered in it.

Narrated Ibn ‘Abbâs [On the authority of the Prophet (See Fath Al-Bari, Vol. 7, Page 210)].

“…(Prophet) Ibrâhîm (Abraham) brought her (Hajar) and her son Ismail (Ishmael) while she used to nurse him at her breast, near the Ka‘bah under a tree on the spot of Zamzam, at the highest place in the mosque. During those days there was nobody in Makkah, nor was there any water. So he made them sit over there and placed near them a leather bag containing some dates, and a small water-skin containing some water, and set out homeward. Ismail’s (Ishmael) mother followed him saying, “O Ibrâhîm (Abraham)! Where are you going, leaving us in this valley where there is no person whose company we may enjoy, nor is there anything (to enjoy)?” She repeated that to him many times, but he did not look back at her. Then she asked him, “Has Allâh ordered you to do so?” He said, “Yes.” She said, “Then He will not neglect us,” and returned while Ibrâhîm (Abraham) proceeded onwards, and on reaching the Thaniyyah where they could not see him, he faced the Ka‘bah, and raising both hands invoked Allâh saying the following supplication:

‘O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring to dwell in an uncultivable valley by Your Sacred House (the Ka‘bah at Makkah); in order, O our Lord, that they may perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât). So fill some hearts among men with love towards them, and (O Allâh) provide them with fruits, so that they may give thanks.’ (V.14:37)

Ismail’s (Ishmael) mother went on suckling Ismail (Ishmael) and drinking from the water (she had). When the water in the water-skin had all been used up, she became thirsty and her child also became thirsty. She started looking at him [i.e. Ismail (Ishmael)] tossing in agony; she left him, for she could not endure looking at him, and found that the mountain of As-Safâ was the nearest mountain to her on that land. She stood on it and started looking at the valley keenly so that she might see somebody, but she could not see anybody. Then she descended from As-Safâ and when she reached the valley, she tucked up her robe and ran in the valley like a person in distress and trouble, till she crossed the valley and reached Al-Marwah mountain where she stood and started looking, expecting to see somebody, but she could not see anybody. She repeated that (running between As-Safâ and Al-Marwah) seven times.”

The Prophet said, “This is the source of the tradition of the Sa‘y (the going) of people between them (i.e. As-Safâ and Al-Marwah). When she reached Al-Marwah (for the last time) she heard a voice and she asked herself to be quiet and listened attentively. She heard the voice again and said, ‘O (whoever you may be)! You have made me hear your voice; have you got something to help me?’ And behold! She saw an angel at the place of Zamzam, digging the earth with his heel (or his wing), till water flowed from that place. She started to make something like a basin around it, using her hands in this way and started filling her water-skin with water with her hands, and the water was flowing out after she had scooped some of it.”The Prophet added, “May Allâh bestow mercy on Ismail’s (Ishmael) mother! Had she let the Zamzam (flow without trying to control it) (or had she not scooped from that water) (to fill her water-skin), Zamzam would have been a stream flowing on the surface of the earth.”The Prophet further added, “Then she drank (water) and suckled her child. The angel said to her, ‘Don’t be afraid of being neglected, for this is the House of Allâh which will be built by this boy and his father, and Allâh never neglects His people.’
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The House (i.e. Ka‘bah) at that time was on a high place resembling a hillock, and when torrents came, they flowed to its right and left. She lived in that way till some people from the tribe of Jurhum or a family from Jurhum passed by her and her child, as they (i.e. the Jurhum people) were coming through the way of Kadâ’. They landed in the lower part of Makkah where they saw a bird that had the habit of flying around water and not leaving it. They said, ‘This bird must be flying around water, though we know that there is no water in this valley.’ They sent one or two messengers who discovered the source of water, and returned to inform them of the water. So, they all came (towards the water).”The Prophet added, “Ismail’s (Ishmael) mother was sitting near the water. They asked her, ‘Do you allow us to stay with you?’ She replied, ‘Yes, but you will have no right to possess the water.’ They agreed to that.”The Prophet further said, “Ismail’s (Ishmael) mother was pleased with the whole situation as she used to love to enjoy the company of the people. So, they settled there, and later on they sent for their families who came and settled with them so that some families became permanent residents there. The child [i.e. Ismail (Ishmael)] grew up and learned Arabic from them and (his virtues) caused them to love and admire him as he grew up, and when he reached the age of puberty they made him marry a woman from amongst them.

After Ismail’s (Ishmael) mother had died, Ibrâhîm (Abraham) came after Ismail’s (Ishmael) marriage in order to see his family that he had left before, but he did not find Ismail (Ishmael) there. When he asked Ismail’s (Ishmael) wife about him, she replied, ‘He has gone in search of our livelihood.’ Then he asked her about their way of living and their condition, and she replied, ‘We are living in misery; we are living in hardship and destitution,’ complaining to him. He said, ‘When your husband returns, convey my salutation to him and tell him to change the threshold of the gate (of his house).’ When Ismail (Ishmael) came, he seemed to have felt something unusual, so he asked his wife, ‘Has anyone visited you?’ She replied, ‘Yes, an old man of such and such description came and asked me about you and I informed him, and he asked about our state of living, and I told him that we were living in a hardship and poverty.’ On that Ismail (Ishmael) said, ‘Did he advise you anything?’ She replied, ‘Yes, he told me to convey his salutation to you and to tell you to change the threshold of your gate.’ Ismail (Ishmael) said, ‘It was my father, and he has ordered me to divorce you. Go back to your family.’ So, Ismail (Ishmael) divorced her and married another woman from amongst them (i.e. Jurhum).

Then Ibrâhîm (Abraham) stayed away from them for a period as long as Allâh wished and called on them again but did not find Ismail (Ishmael). So he came to Ismail’s (Ishmael) wife and asked her about Ismail (Ishmael). She said, ‘He has gone in search of our livelihood.’ Ibrâhîm (Abraham) asked her, ‘How are you getting on?’ asking her about their sustenance and living. She replied, ‘We are prosperous and well-off (i.e. we have everything in abundance).’ Then she thanked Allâh?? Ibrâhîm (Abraham) said, ‘What kind of food do you eat?’ She said, ‘Meat.’ He said, ‘What do you drink?’ She said, ‘Water.’ He said, ‘O Allâh! Bless their meat and water.’ “The Prophet added, “At that time they did not have grain, and if they had grain, he would have also invoked Allâh to bless it.”The Prophet added, “If somebody has only these two things as his sustenance, his health and disposition will be badly affected, unless he lives in Makkah.” The Prophet added, “Then Ibrâhîm (Abraham) said to Ismail’s (Ishmael) wife, ‘When your husband comes, give my regards to him and tell him that he should keep firm the threshold of his gate.’ When Ismail (Ishmael) came back, he asked his wife, ‘Did anyone call on you?’ She replied, ‘Yes, a good-looking old man came to me,’ so she praised him and added. ‘He asked about you, and I informed him, and he asked about our livelihood and I told him that we were in a good condition.’ Ismail (Ishmael) asked her, ‘Did he give you any piece of advice?’ She said, ‘Yes, he told me to give his regards to you and ordered that you should keep firm the threshold of your gate.’ On that Ismail (Ishmael) said, ‘It was my father, and you are the threshold (of the gate). He has ordered me to keep you with me.’

Then Ibrâhîm (Abraham) stayed away from them for a period as long as Allâh wished, and called on them afterwards. He saw Ismail (Ishmael) under a tree near Zamzam, sharpening his arrows. When he saw Ibrâhîm (Abraham), he rose up to welcome him (and they greeted each other as a father does with his son or a son does with his father). Ibrâhîm (Abraham) said, ‘O Ismail (Ishmael)! Allâh has given me an order.’ Ismail (Ishmael) said, ‘Do what your Lord has ordered you to do.’ Ibrâhîm (Abraham) asked, ‘Will you help me?’ Ismail (Ishmael) said, ‘I will help you.’ Ibrâhîm (Abraham) said, ‘Allâh has ordered me to build a house here,’ pointing to a hillock higher than the land surrounding it.’”The Prophet added, “Then they raised the foundations of the House (i.e. the Ka‘bah). Ismail (Ishmael) brought the stones and Ibrâhîm (Abraham) was building; and when the walls became high, Ismail (Ishmael) brought this stone and put it for Ibrâhîm (Abraham) who stood over it and carried on building, while Ismail (Ishmael) was handing him the stones, and both of them were saying,

‘O our Lord! Accept (this service) from us. Verily, You are the All-Hearer the All-Knower.’” (V.2:127).

The Prophet added, “Then both of them went on building and going round the Ka‘bah saying ‘O our Lord! Accept (this service) from us. Verily, You are the All-Hearer, the All-Knower.’” (V.2:127)

[Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol.4, Hadith No.583].

You said the hadith I quoted is too long, right? Is this yours not much much longer than the one I quoted?

Anyway, the questions remained unanswered.

From your own version of the hadith I quote:

“…(Prophet) Ibrâhîm (Abraham) brought her (Hajar) and her son Ismail (Ishmael) while she used to nurse him at her breast, near the Ka‘bah under a tree on the spot of Zamzam, at the highest place in the mosque. During those days there was nobody in Makkah, nor was there any water. So he made them sit over there and placed near them a leather bag containing some dates, and a small water-skin containing some water, and set out homeward. Ismail’s (Ishmael) mother followed him saying, “O Ibrâhîm (Abraham)! Where are you going, leaving us in this valley where there is no person whose company we may enjoy, nor is there anything (to enjoy)?” She repeated that to him many times, but he did not look back at her. Then she asked him, “Has Allâh ordered you to do so?” He said, “Yes.” She said, “Then He will not neglect us,” and returned while Ibrâhîm (Abraham) proceeded onwards, and on reaching the Thaniyyah where they could not see him, he faced the Ka‘bah, and raising both hands invoked Allâh saying the following supplication:

‘O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring to dwell in an uncultivable valley by Your Sacred House (the Ka‘bah at Makkah); in order, O our Lord, that they may perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât). So fill some hearts among men with love towards them, and (O Allâh) provide them with fruits, so that they may give thanks.’ (V.14:37)

Looking at the bolded, you will discover the Kaaba was already in existence when Abraham, Hahrah and the small Ishmael got there, yet you say it was Abraham and Ishmael who built it. How could they have built what they met on ground?

The question is who built the Kaaba before Abraham got there? We heard from history that even Ishmael learnt Arabic from the original dwellers of Mecca. That shows there were people leaving there before the arrival of Abraham and Ishmael, who built the Kaaba for their idols.