mignone:


on this, i learnt from a reliable source dt d election was 'neatly' manipulated in favour of d incumbent

That's sure especially in Oke-Ogun side that's why he went there to thank them for being gullible... I trust my people for ogbomoso.... They Yab anybody that go against them... Even when Akala was governor he was Yab that he couldn't come for 3 months because people are angry about what he did...

modath:



You win, you will hold on to your argument no matter how glaringly CONTRADICTORY ,there is no need taking it further....

I'm sure the Agboola, Adeseun, Lanlehin & co will be wondering what they did to mother luck in 2015..

You can have the last word... *mic drop* ..

That's it.. Happy Sunday....

modath:



Bros you see yasef? ... You used your own hands to flaw your own argument...

So it was Ajimobi that payed in 2015 ?, conveniently forgetting that he is just a mere beneficiary of the change mantra (According to people who are in the thick of events when it comes to Oyo politics)

A large majority still maintain that he only got votes cos of the Buhari factor , likewise the Reps & Senators..

Don't argue for the sake of one upping the other person, let facts on ground guide you & be objective , days & weeks before the elections, we were inundated with talks & opinion about how it was sure Ajimobi wasn't going to return but what happened

Ajmobi's structure returned him to Agodi, we can stay all day complaining about the Buhari factor & what not but had Ladoja or Seyi Makinde had the same support base, either of them could have taken it too..

What happened to Ajimobi was luck... Him too knew it.... That's why when he was giving his thanksgiving speech he said he couldn't believe him that he would return....

But if was the right structure why didn't Alao Akala returned in 2011 despite the fact that PDP almost swept all vote in both Senate,Reps except Gov... So there's nothing like right structure.... If it's right structure why did APC lose chunk of their reps in oke-ogun and ibadan though some later decamp...

modath:


It is not about knowing, it is about belonging to the right structure to win ELECTIONS!!!!..

In Oyo state there's nothing like right structures.... We vote as it pays..... Last election is an indicator to that... Ogbomoso votes massively Labour Party..... Oyo town vote massively for Accord party but Labour party came second..... Oke-Okun split between APC,LP.... Ibarapa split between APC and Accord.. Ibadan APC and Accord... So in Oyo state there's nothing like right structures is the battle for sharpest....

forgiveness:


If that be case then I support it. Of course, the platform is meant to reach out to every Omoluabi both home and abroad.

Cool.

WIZGUY69:



Is it a kinda gang up?
I still prefer seyi makinde to all of 'em

He did for Seyin Makinde too but...
I learnt that Olamiju will be contesting for Oyo North Senatorial district come 2019



I know come 2019 Seyi Makinde will be the governor because that man really have visions for Oyo state...

forgiveness:


Yes, I mentioned it after i modified my post. I think it is the best option if he agrees to it. Online radio will be fantastic. Bloggers! I don't know about that.

..
They will have a secret identity so it will be hard to locate them... I mean the bloggers...... And we need to expand our media capacity to other SW states too not only Lagos and Ibadan..

WIZGUY69:



Is it a kinda gang up?
I still prefer seyi makinde to all of 'em

He did for Seyin Makinde too but...
I learnt that Olamiju will be contesting for Oyo North Senatorial district come 2019



I know come 2019 Seyi Makinde will be the governor because that man really have visions for Oyo state...

forgiveness:


Well, I don't think using a radio station based in Nigeria will be convenient for the Central Government for such agitation.

What of Radio Oduduwa in London that's own by OPC.....
We can also do online radio which by dialling certain it will pick up straight......... And using bloggers also will be fantastic.

WIZGUY69:


Interesting, not heard of it though.
I am very sure Olamiju will use the Radio station to campaign for his father during the gubernatorial election.

Yea he did and for Ladoja too


I really don't know but I know is 45 minutes from Ogbomoso to Oyo town
Ogbomoso to Ilorin is not even up to 30minutes...

forgiveness:


Thanks,

I think opening a radio station should be dedicated for that purpose.

I learnt that Mr.Yinka Odumakin opened a radio recently in Ibadan city it can also be useful...

WIZGUY69:



The name though

Lol... Yea ask people who are living oyo state Radio station it belongs to Alao Akala's Son Olamiju..

forgiveness:


Sir, I think you have just given a profound analysis on how to actualize Regional Autonomy. Total Regional Autonomy that will allow us to determine, control and own our: Constitution, security, resources, education, sports, intl. passport, and even allow us to have our own embassies(as we had before) etcetera.

But without bringing all it gains to the subconscious minds of the youths and the people at large, it will only remain a pipe dream.

Therefore, I will also suggest the use of media(especially radio stations) as the main powerful pivot tool for this sensitization. This is the method Kanu used successful to awakening the spirit of Biafra in every easterners wherever you you go(like MTN).

However, The recent strong agitations for IPOB by the easterns coupled with another strong demand for regional autonomy by the largest nation in Nigeria, will certainly put the central government under pressure to at least yield to the earnest popular demands for Regional Autonomy, because will rather prefer regional than total secession and disintegration of Nigeria.

This is the best time to act by using the current situation to our advantage.

So, na who will bail the cat.

First step: Form a movement that will include both the the young and old.

Second step: Identify and dissolve into key major Yoruba groups with the intention of pacifing them to sheath their sword and yield to the popular demand for regional autonomy.

Step three: All groups should accept to dissolving into one movement until we achieve our goals. After that they can go back to there various groups(if they want).

Step four: @onreflection advice should be followed judiciously.

Note: Media means most come first and I think this thread....... you know what I mean.

That's a good points sir...
For Example in my Town Ogbomoso people are Using Parrot F.M as the means of media outreach to most part of Oyo state and Kwara state including Osun state even across border in Benin Rep and Togo too...

Progressiveness is a great tool to overcome challenge
And remember that all this issue and solution we are discussing here can be achieve with one focus...with united front..




Whatever a man's mind can conceive and believe,he will definitely achieve it....
#Oduduwaunite

Chai Pope go drink Kenyan Fura de Nunu milk and Sip a little kunu...

Oh lord another Future tense again.... When will they stop all this 'we will,we want to,we are going to,' for fvck sake....




Soon dem go come with another story for the gods...
This APCheat

damyzino:

fight and kill the enemy and spare the innocent ....dont forget that people also fought war in the bible

Okay.... But almost all US marine will likely make heaven.

Hmmmmmmmm. .... Happy Sunday....
Maybe,maybe not.... King David is a soldier remember


But if Soldiers make haven I don't think U.S Marine will make heaven Likewise their friend British Royal Army.

Hmmmmmm And you are still telling me that there's one Nigeria

I think the reason the poor always have many children... Is because they believe "if one no make am for life the other will".....
While the rich believe 2 or 3 children are okay is because they don't want a situation whereby there children will be fighting each other over their parents property after their death....

















But remember MKO is wealthy and fuckin' rich and he get plenty children like pig...
maybe because he was a muslim...

Kogi west open your eyes in 2019 oo

bigfrancis21:


OLUKWUMI PEOPLE
The Olukwumi people occupy an Anioma clan and are called "Odiani". The reason for this I am not really sure but the clan consists of 6 towns namely Ugbodu, Ukwu Nzu and Ubulubu (Olukwumi speaking) and Ogodor, Ugboba and Idumuogo (mainly Igbo speaking). Ugbodu is actually the traditional headquarters of the Olukwumi people but because of a serious Ekumeku battle staged at Ukwu Nzu in 1904, the colonialists decided to move the Native Authority headquarters to Ukwu Nzu leading to the false claims by some Ukwu Nzu people that they are "the clan head".

The name Ugbodu comes from "Igbo Odun" or sweet forest in Yoruba. They were from Akure and settled in Benin during the reign of the last Ogiso called OWODO. The Ogiso was allegded to have used his only son for sacrifice in order to have more sons and for this reason, the Ugbodu people (who were apprehensive that they being non-Edos could also be victims ) led by one Adeola moved eastwards in a site which they felt was secured (hence the name " sweet forests".). This from genealogy occurred in about 1200 AD.

About three or four generations later, one Agbe a relative of the founders of Usen near Benin( they came from Ile Ife ) moved eastwards and settled near Ugbodu people. He was attracted to a chalk site and he settled there. Gradually, the Ukwu Nzu people began to earn revenue from those chalk mines and they for this reason were called a people settled on a camp for chalk mining. This is Eko Afun is Olukwumi language. Gradually the Igbo version Ukwu Nzu replaced the original name.

Ubulubu was founded in about 1800 by some Ugbodu people and they were soon joined by people from Ukwu Nzu. This is one reason they don't have hereditary monarchy. Another migration occurred in the late 16th century to Ugbodu. It was an Owo (in Ondo State) war general named Ologun (or Balogun) who was in the Benin army. He founded one of the qtrs in Ugbodu now called OLOGHOSA.

The ruler of Ugbodu goes by the title of "Oloza'' derived from Oloja( a Yoruba title ) while Ukwu Nzu and Ubulubu are governed by Obis or Okpalabisis which are Igbo titles. There are also two Olukwumi dialects. One which is considered purer is spoken in Ugbodu while another massively saturated with Igbo words is spoken in Ubulubu and Ukwu Nzu. Apart from language, the Olukwumi speakers are identical with other Anioma people in customs.

The other three Odiani towns ie Ugboba, Idumuogo and Ogodor are mainly a blend of people who came from the three originally Olukwumi communities, Igbo speaking communities mainly from the Ezechime clan and a few families from the Esan area of Edo state. It is because of their rather mixed origins that led to the displacement of the Olukwumi language in those towns.

http://www.nigerianbestforum.com/index.php?topic=22509.525

Okay.. They just want to be in contact with their kit and kin in SW and SS... So I'm trying to bring this to the front of the table for all pan-yoruba group...

airsaylongcon:


They are in Aniocha North. That's towards Asaba side (for reference). I'm not saying they are in Asaba o! I use Asaba so you can have an idea of what part of the state they are located

That place is very complex zone... It will be hard for you to connect with other Yoruba states...

macof:


They bear yorubic names up and down but sociopolitically or as a matter of association they don't see themselves as Yorubas. They are infact warming up to igbos more.
I've met the Oloza, a very cool man doesn't talk much. .and he speaks standard yoruba
Unless an effort from yorubas is made to call on the olukumi, forget it cus many are already losing their yorubaness

I'll get in-touch with few people that I know are capable of helping the matters... But try test or call this man and tell him your plight(08025900937).... Whenever heard about yoruba loosing their heritage it always break my hearth.
Pls call/test the man while I'll also do the same.

airsaylongcon:

Deep inside Delta State. Yoruba ppl surrounded by igboid speakers

Are they close to warri or Sapele or Uhrobo side?

airsaylongcon:
Okun and Igbomina complaining. What will the defiant Olukumi do?

Who are the Olukunmi?
Which state do they belong too?

fratermathy:


Speak for yourself o

Most Yorubas dont share the same sentiment! This thing is that most Yorubas believe that Okuns and Igbominas should be given appointments and other political incentives based on their affiliations with North Central Region. However, the North Central majority believe that Okuns and Igbominas should get incentives from their South West brothers. How then will they resolve this dilemma?

Furthermore, Okun and Igbomina Yoruba is seen by the typical Awori man, for example, as "impure" due to its influences from Hausa, Nupe, Igara, Tiv and the Islamic Religion. Hence, whenever they speak their own version of Yoruba, others tend to circle them out as being inferior in standard Yoruba communicative competence. This is another dilemma.

While it is good that some of you are embracing your Okun and Igbomina brothers, the lot have to do better to embrace them. They can only look up to the South West! The Northern folks will never allow an Okun or Igbomina man to "collect" what they see as theirs!

Nobody is circling them out..... Most Socio-poltical/cultural group that are Yoruba are doing their best so as to bring them back to the SW... Because in the NC they regard them as minority....
And that's why we always include them in every of our pan-yoruba meetings....
And two Yoruba in SW never see them Northerner.... Though they may be in dilemma but they will surely overcome....

APCheat..... Change Sebi na change we won collect....

uncjay:



Thank you....


I'm an Okun person. And I'm purely Yoruba, the truth be told Okun have suffer discrimination from her kins and kits(Yoruba)....it even worse that such things still persist in this age....I was born and brought up in the north, I speak Hausa more than Yoruba but I understand the language, in my school here in Lagos I found myself in our director's office for a meeting. Somehow she found out I couldn't speak Yoruba fluently and realize I was Okun, then she ask me never to step in her office again until I speak Yoruba better. Imaging that. This whole thing is political, I simply don't know what the Yorubas aim at achieving with this ooooo...

Bruh.... We your Kit and kit are not neglecting you that's why we make sure kwara and kogi must return to SW which is included in CONfab.... We are trying our best to bring you guys back home where you belong..

fratermathy:

"Not" you mean?

Amongst Yorubas, there are groups such as Igbomina and Okun that believe their geopolitical zoning may have affected their lot politically and otherwise. Some of them see themselves as being in a dilemma. These people are fully Yorubas but at the National level, yorubas sociopolitical groups see them as Northerners and Northerners see them as Yorubas. Because of this, some of them simply say I am Igbomina or Okun, instead of I am Yoruba. This is simply because they feel it'd be better to fashion their own distinct identity. This has informed their clamour for a separate states! This, in no way, negates their Yoruba status. It is purely political!

Thanks... I know that already.... I thought otherwise before....
They see them as minority... And if PMB consider the CONfab they will be back to Majority..

fratermathy:



Oh please! If you don't understand me, ask me to explain. This ship has sailed ages ago.

Okay Explain because my Grandma is from Okun and live there for almost 5yrs... I don't understand what you mean by Okun and Igbomina are Yoruba

fratermathy:


You can argue this all you want and use anecdotes drawn from primordial societies, you'd never win! All other ethnic groups in Nigeria know that Isoko is a cultural branch of Urhobo. You speak of other clans breaking free and yes I agree! They have tried and are still trying! What they dont understand is this: which tribe is Urhobo? Answer: None! Urhobo is not a language or a tribe but a common term used to delineate a group of people with an homogenous culture and related languages! Urhobo is a cultural indicator to which Isoko belong!

Even in larger ethnic groups like Yoruba and Igbo, there are factions that claim to be different. i.e. Ikwerres, Ikas, Ukwuanis, for Igbo; Oron, Eket, for Ibibio; Igbomina, Okun, for Yoruba; etc. So the case of Isoko claiming to be different from Urhobo is NOT UNIQUE! They can claim all they want! Nobody can take that away from them but we know better! Isoko is as culturally Urhoboic as Okpe, Uvwie, Eruwa, Udu, etc are! Just because of senatorial arrangements, they believe they'd fare better being distinct than being associated with Urhobo. This, however, has not favoured them as Isokos are calamitously marginalised in Delta South.

Do not spear head divisions where none exists! Just leave your argument at the point that Isoko is ethnically different from Urhobo and I'll skeptically look away! But to argue that they are culturally and linguistically different is something I'd argue even in Heaven and Hell.!

See Igbomina and Okun never claim to be different from other Yoruba ooo.