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smokinloud:
Okay Muhammad said you should fast and break at sunset abi?!.
In Norway the sun does not set for 3 months. Which prophet should they follow then?!.

so because of change in weather there, Muslims shouldn't fast? 🙄

Do u even have brain, sun doesn't set doesn't mean there won't be night time.

SHINJACRUSADER:
Even the Jesus in Qur'an is greater than Muhammad..

Hallelujah.

well the thing is we don't compare prophet based on greatness in islam 😂 they are all messanger.


But according to Bible John the Baptist us greater than Jesus

smokinloud:
Calm down it was Muhammad that said so in the sunnah. Are you a sunni muslim?!.

that involved war btw the two unlike you Christians that killed and prosecuted them

smokinloud:
Fine and what are the laws and who are the prophets for *Norway*?!.
Or do you mean Norwegiens should follow the same laws as muslims?!.

chai which Norway prophet did your Bible mentioned to u?

Or which prophet did they called their own to u?

smokinloud:
And why would you be killing people that followed another prophet that submitted to the will of God according to Qur'an 9:29?!.
٢٩ قَاتِلُوا الَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَلَا بِالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ وَلَا يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَلَا يَدِينُونَ دِينَ الْحَقِّ مِنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُوا الْكِتَابَ حَتَّىٰ يُعْطُوا الْجِزْيَةَ عَنْ يَدٍ وَهُمْ صَاغِرُونَ29 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.

when we say read,u won't agree,u don't know the reason for the verse u post it.

Who ever among the people of the books or the idolators that wage war on Muslims,the verse was for them.

Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors -Quran 2:190


That was why Allah said in


Quran 60:8


Allah does not forbid that you be kind and just to those who did not fight against you on account of religion, nor drove you out of your homes. Surely Allah loves those who are equitable

SHINJACRUSADER:
Quran fake Jesus

your Jesus people

smokinloud:
Thanks. Are you saying when God ordered the angels and Satan to bow down for Adam it does not mean satan or the angel would in any form worship him?!.

bow down in that place was for respect not worship same was did for Jesus and other prophets in Bible and no worship was attached to it.

smokinloud:
Because they are not performing rak'a in the verse abi?

Then why would you assume that when Allah command humans to bow down down for him it means they would perform the necessary rak'a (rites)?!.
Is your submission based on assumptions?!.
Why would you cherry pick meanings for bowing down when the language there is same?!.
We can dance anywhere. Our God does not accept our actions he accepts actions that comes from the heart as worship. We can even sleep pray. Half asleep and half worshipping our God on bed and he hears us and accept our worship.

ancient Korea bow for their kings,does that translate to worship.


Y'all dance to worship in God in church,if u dance for human,does that mean u are worshipping him?

smokinloud:
AND DON'T BE MISINFORMED JEWS PERFORM THEIR PRAYERS IN ANY POSTURE!.
THEY CAN STAND, BE SEATED, LIE DOWN OR EVEN SLAM THEIR HEAD IF THEY DESIRE.
AND ALSO JEWS DANCE IN THE SYNAGOGUES!.

Jews dance to worship God inside synagogues?

Na u joking.



Everyplace Bible mentioned bowing and prostrating to God, worship always included in it.


So if say protrastring or bowing is not worship to God cos God Commanded Angels to do the same for Adam then by your logic dancing and drumming is also not worship to God cos the prophets of Baal also used to do the same plus ain't no place Bible mentioned dancing and clapping as worship.

aariwa:
while y’all thought it’s the senile drug lord that claims he built Lagos and will make Nigeria like Lagos….my 5 year old would laugh at you for such balderdash Agbado brains believe 😂

obi the failure of anambra wan change Nigeria 😭

aariwa:
what enabling environment is there in Nigeria not to import? Without importation that filled in that gap by now hunger would have pushed you to go and kill your parents and eat them..or you thought manna( those things you use now) fall from heaven?

y'all nîgga still thought na that Pandora îdiot go change Nigeria 😭😭

SHINJACRUSADER:
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E pain m

that Jesus slammed his Head

smokinloud:
This is one of the major problems with Islam.
If David, Moses and Abraham worship and submitted to the will of God why is islam tenet different from the Jews?!

different law for different prophets or messengers

smokinloud:
Why does Islam have to kill all the Jews on earth first before the end of the world can appear!.

Quran evidence for that!

Plus y'all Christians are the one killing them

smokinloud:
Why killing those that submitted to the will of God for God's justice?!.

u meant the killing by crusaders?

aariwa:
We are not producing and the reason the thieves that held Nigeria down are fighting Obi who wanted to restore dignity of Nigeria as a country

the same obi that used to import everything?

smokinloud:
It's a reply to your comment you have to answer that. Don't dodge the question!.

MF don't confuse me,let finish our own argument first before involving in the one I didn't mention u

smokinloud:
Calm down bro, David was an inspired author of the bible. His books "Psalm"(Zabur in Arabic) makes the TANAKH which the Jews believe is the the canonical scripture inspired by God!.
Bowing down doesn't mean slamming of heads. It's a simple English.

but your jew masters that own the same psalm used to slam it plus u don't see them dancing inside synagogues.

smokinloud:
And the psalmist didn't say that's the only way to worship our God. Moreso the bowing down is of the heart!. You can be on your kneel for hours if you don't bow your heart you'll not still gain access to the throne of the most high!.

Bowing for worshipping involved intention that u are worshipping God and God only involved and all the most of the place worship were mentioned in the Bible, bowing or prostrating included.

smokinloud:
Concerning quran 22:77.
Where is rak'a ( head slamming) here?!.
If prostating translates to rak'a then Allah ( the islamic God) committed shriek (Idolatry) by commanding angels to prostate (Sujud) for Adam!.

Quran 20:116:
١١٦ وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ أَبَىٰ116 And when We said unto the angels: Fall prostrate before Adam, they fell prostrate (all) save Iblis; he refused.

mumu prostrate don't mean worship sometime, prostrating for God deals with intention.

Just as u dance for your God in church and it means worshipping for u,if u dance for one politician or musician,does that means u are worshipping him too?

SHINJACRUSADER:
So na werin Ur head slamming Mallam tell uu..🤣🤣🤣

Abeg go worship Ur black stone abi rock for mecca .

na mumu I dey even arguing with.

Sey David,Moses, Abraham no worship God and submitted to him?

smokinloud:
IF ALL PROPHETS WERE JEWS AND THEY ALL SUBMITTED TO THE WILL OF GOD THEN WHY WOULD ALLAH RAISE A PROPHET FROM THE ARAB DESCENT?!.
WHAT'S THE NEED?!.
IF ALLAH NEEDED A PROPHET FROM OTHER NATIONS WHY DID IT STOP AT MUHAMMAD?!.
WHY DIDN'T HE CONTINUE RAISING MORE PROPHETS AFTER MUHAMMAD?!.
HE GOT BORED OF SENDING MESSAGES?!.
NB: as for Christians we believe prophets are still amongst us!.

nigga why jumping from one post to another?

This ain't for u,let continue on our own argument

SHINJACRUSADER:
English na Ur problem...

Mohammad is the founder of Islam .

There was nothing like Islam then..

According to u Ur Jesus was a Muslim then...So tell me ,what direction do they face when they want to bow and pray since there was no Mecca then...



Stop deceiving Ur self ...

mumu dumb ass nîgga,Islam means submission to the will of God and all the prophets submitted to the will of God

And the direction they Jesus faced ain't your concern as far as he worshipped his Lord

smokinloud:
Bring the proof!. As for Dancing it's here:
Psalm 149:3;
Let them praise his name with dancing and make music to him with timbrel and harp.
Instruction!.

I said prove from God or Jesus and u are quoting psalm written by David ,well David never said dancing to worship unlike here


Psalm 95:6:
Oh come, let us worship and bow down; let us kneel before the Lord, our Maker



And evidence of slamming head in Quran.

O you who believe! Bow down, and prostrate yourselves, and worship your Lord and do good that you may be successful. Quran 22:77

smokinloud:
Bro calm down don't be too desperate. These people are not slamming heads.
They are performing voluntary actions in the verse any God did not instruct them to bow their heads. The glory of God was so powerful that they could not look his face they had to bow their heads...
It's never an instruction that they must bow their heads before they can worship their creator... You haven't proof any instruction from your Qur'an and from the bible that you are meant to slam your heads before you can worship God.

there is prove for that in Quran and Bible and your hypocrite ass is shaking, clapping and dancing In the church, where did God or Jesus Commanded that in the Bible?

smokinloud:
Stop attacking straw man!. You are meant to bring a biblical/ Qur'anic proof to the law of slamming heads and not picture of an individual practising what he desires!.
Gays are also in the church and they have the freedom to practise whatever they want but the biblical God never condone gay in fact, he destroyed a whole city for the practice!.
Any individual can practise whatever he thinks is right but it does not mean the the TANAKH supports such!.

nigga I've brought it to u but u still deny it,take another one


2 Chronicles 7:3

All the sons of Israel, seeing the fire come down and the glory of the Lord upon the house, bowed down on the pavement with their faces to the ground, and they worshiped and gave praise to the Lord, saying, “Truly He is good, truly His lovingkindness is everlasting.”

smokinloud:
Islamists (the Sunnah) copied it from the Buddhists. The Qur'an never preaches it!.
And Buddhists pray this way to their idols some 3000 years before Muhammad!.
OR DOES YOUR QUR'AN TELL YOU TO SLAM YOUR HEADS!.

Your Jew masters are copy the Buddhist too? 😂

smokinloud:
Any human can practise whatever he wants. As long as you are not quoting any biblical practice to back your claim!.

then from where did they see this?

smokinloud:
Mention one Messianic prophecy from the TANAKH that Eisa (the Jesus of the Quran) fulfil!.
Or is it that the authors of the Qur'an were ignorants?!.

nigga we talking about face to the ground now

smokinloud:
DIFFERENT FROM SLAMMING HEADS!.
NA SIMPLE ENGLISH BOY!.

your brethrens disagreed

smokinloud:
DIFFERENT FROM SLAMMING HEADS ON THE GROUND CHILL!.

with their face to the ground?

smokinloud:
Calm down and read the first chapter of Matthew!.
There's no doubt about Jesus fulfilling the Davidic prophecies of the Messiah in the bible.
The Islamic Jesus never fulfil any Messiahnic prophecy. He's a make up figure!.

first chapter of Matthew was talking about the geneology of Jesus step father called Joseph the carpenter!

So how is Joseph the father of Jesus?

smokinloud:
The Jesus of the quran is different from that of the bible you know. Jesus of the bible was of Davidic covenant while that of quran was a Levite( grand son of Moses)!.

evidence where Jesus of Bible was from David lineage

smokinloud:
🤣😂.
To fall on your face is different from slamming your head!. It's a simple English guy!.

that makes u a dumb nîgga then.


Nehemiah 8:6

Then Ezra blessed the Lord the great God. And all the people answered, “Amen, Amen!” while lifting up their hands; then they bowed low and worshiped the Lord with their faces to the ground.

SHINJACRUSADER:
Mistake ..your Qur'an said that .....

Only terrorists slam their head ...

He (Jesus) went on a little farther and bowed with his face to the ground, praying, “My Father! If it is possible, let this cup of suffering be taken away from me. Yet I want your will to be done, not mine- matthew 26:39




And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them- number 20:6



Revelation 7:11

And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures; and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God,


Nehemiah 8:6

Then Ezra blessed the Lord the great God. And all the people answered, “Amen, Amen!” while lifting up their hands; then they bowed low and worshiped the Lord with their faces to the ground.

extol1:
They should dredge the lokoja river so that big ship can come in, to reduce the stress in Lagos

canal from lokoja to the sea,do u know how much is gonna cost?

SHINJACRUSADER:
The Jesus in Ur quran

nah nìgga,the one in the Bible, Even not only him, Bible also told us Moses and other Israelites Prophets slammed their heads

b4ball:
Okay, factor inflation, does a Volvo car cost $70k today? That’s above #50m, for a Volvo car! Pls the story does not add up.

the dues have been rising with interest and other taxes