₦airaland Forum

confusedlady:
A).


I have invited you to attend this caucus because I would like you to make clear our stand on the issue of secession. As a party, we would have preferred Nigeria to remain intact, but lest there be doubt as to our willingness to concede to any shade of political opinion the right to determine its policy, I am obliged to issue a solemn warning to those who are goading the North towards secession. If you agree with my views, then I hope that in course of our deliberations tonight, you will endorse them, to enable me to publicize them in the Press.

In my opinion, the Northerners are perfectly entitled to consider whether or not they should secede from the indissoluble union which nature has formed between it and the South, but it would be calamitous to the corporate existence of the North should the clamour for secession prevail. I, therefore, counsel Northern leaders to weigh the advantages and disadvantages of secession before embarking upon this dangerous course.

INDISOLABLE UNION.(See grammar)
LOL....

Lol..

truthera:
The attack on Peter Obi continues even when Tinubu [b]your tribesman [/b]is a monumental failure.... Peter Obi is not a Saint but I am certain that if he was a Yoruba man you won't attack him as you are doing now..... In fact, you will prefer him to a drug lord as president.... Since you cannot accept an igbo presidency why not make the call and support the exit of Peter Obi's people from Nigeria.....

Stop being silly.
How is Tinubu my tribesman?
Did you decipher that from my post or you are just assuming that anyone opposed to your gbajue lamba master is Yoruba?

That Peter Obi failed woefully as governor in Anambra state is not news. The fact that Peter Obi had a worst performance index than Yahya Bello of Kogi is not news.
The NEWS here is that ironically, 99% of Ibo people criticising his poor performance on this forum in 2011 are now miraculously Obidients and are pushing for him to be President of Nigeria........the irony is the NEWS.....

What can we compare the governorship of Peter Obi in Anambra state to?
Is it Samuel Ortom in Benue?
Is it Orji Uzor Kalu in Abia?
Or is it Yahya Bello in Kogi?
These are governors on Peter Obi's level,but because of tribalism and ethnicity Obidents want us to gbajuely accept tha Peter Obi is not a failure but a messiah.....we will never accept this and must continually expose the lamba master for the FRAUD he is.........

Peter Obi MUST never be allowed anywhere near Aso villa,ever.

I am bumping this thread because they have started their falsehood and propaganda on why Odumegwu Ojukwu attempted to invade Lagos during the civil war.
The letter in the OP is self explanatory of Ojukwu's dangerous megalomaniac agenda of subjugation of Lagos as a vassal state to Biafra.

gidgiddy:
The same people who were angry that Ojukwu headed for Lagos were the same people who have Gowon and his Northern backed goons the platform in Lagos to be directing a war against the East

But they are angry that Ojukwu attempted to get Gowon in Lagos? I laugh in Chinese

The problem with the Ibo is they never tire of false propaganda on the civil war.
It has been pointed out severally on this forum that Ojukwu tried to use Victor Banjo as a stooge to invade Lagos in order to execute Ojukwu's megalomaniac hegemony dreams by subjugation of Lagos.

The letter between Ojukwu and Nanjo is public knowledge and no amount of falsehood and subterfuge can change the cold facts that Ojukwu sought to make Lagos a vassal state to Biafra which was a model Ojukwu had already carried out in Mid western state where the Biafran forces had subjugated the capital Benin city and looted the Central Bank.



https://www.nairaland.com/8148636/odumegwu-ojukwus-letter-victor-banjo

Lol....

People that Kanu could easily decieve that Buhari had been cloned and replaced in Aso rock villa by one Jubril al Sudani can believe anything no matter how inane .
Such people can easily be manipulated and deluded as long as you tell them what they want to hear. It is nsogbu nsogbu logic.

Goosethetruth:
In answer to your questions.
I have been a Jehovah witness.
I have been a Methodist in fact I was born into Methodist songs.
I have been a white garment church member. [C&S]
I have been into Scripture Union in school(SU)
I understand religion very well.
That is why I am exposing the hypocrisy in all Abrahamic religions

I am not obsessed with your book of contradictions. I am exposing the falsehood and propaganda. Let Seun create an independent section for free thinkers and Agnostics like myself and see the Christianity section fade away .
Be informed,it is Agnostics and atheists that keep this section relevant!

If you have been into so many religious denominations and churches before becoming Agnostic as you claim then it is still possible for you to retrace your footsteps and in a full 360 degree turn around return into religion. You appear unstable but there is still hope for you. Jesus loves you.
Good morning.

Goosethetruth:
If the early church leaders decided to affix names to the gospels the simple question is: What else did they do?
Why did the church leaders decide that these FOUR gospels out of the uncountable number of gospel stories floating around at that period in time?
What made the elders and Emperor Constantine decide to elevate Jesus to a divine entity at the ecumenical council of Nicea in 325AD? Why did this same council decide and set the date for EASTER??
I hope you are also aware it was at the council of Ephesus in 431AD, that the church elders decided that Jesus is ONE person with two natures-(1) Divine (2) Human.
It was this same council that declared MARY as God bearer/mother of God.

Many Christians know nothing about the creeds of these ecumenical councils because they are not ready to do any research or investigate the ORIGINS of your religion.

Finally my point: With all these anonymous gospels which were written after the letters of Paul. With all the contradictions in these gospels. With all the translations/mistranslations. With all the interpolation and insertions. With all the Roman inspired creeds that govern Christianity where does the real,historical Jesus fit in? My belief is no-one can discover the real Jesus under the avalanche of embellishments and manufactured theology by the early church leaders and the Romans.

Knowing all these knowledgeable factors why are you in the Christianity section all the time?
Why are you always talking about a book that is full of contradictions according to you all the time.
You and other atheists sound as if you are obsessed with the Bible and it's lovely message of hope.
If I may ask were you formerly a religious person? Which denomination did you formerly belong to ? It's alright if you are too shy to answer.

Goosethetruth:
Since you sound 'polite', I ask you a question; Do you really believe that Mathew,Mark, Luke and John were the names of the authors of the four canonised gospels in the Bible?

It doesn't matter the names of who wrote the Gospels. The importance is to grasp the messages therein.
How does the message in the gospels touch your heart and how do you utilise the message in your life as a Christian.

Goosethetruth:
Jesus was a Jew. He never called his followers Christians. He was a Jew who preached a form of Judaism. He never opposed the Jewish laws. He never wrote any theology books. He never built a church. He taught in the Jewish synagogue.

The first written words about his ministry were written over 30 years after his purported death through the undisputed letters of Paul/Saul after his purported visionary encounter with the cosmic Jesus on the road to Damascus.

It was this that the unknown author of the texts in later titled gospel of Mark capitalised upon to write his own story of the Jesus ministry.
Note that Marks gospel reads like a quick summary of a human preacher called Jesus.
Luke and Mathew seized upon and copied Mark to write their later accounts of this ministry from their own point of view and to promote their varied agenda. Mathew was writing to impress the Jewish community while Luke wrote to impress the gentiles.
By the time the gospel of John was written in AD 90-100 the Jesus in Marks gospel had evolved from a human being to a divine god like being who is equal to God the Father and the Holy spirit in a holy trinity.

The cosmic Jesus in Paul's letters is made human by the writer of Mark. This Jesus is unsure of himself and warns people he healed not to talk about him as a messiah,however by the time the gospel of John was written Jesus has evolved and been embellished with myths that transform him into a self assured divine messiah who orders those he has healed to proclaim he is a messiah,a son of God,a trinity being equal to the father and the Holy spirit!
The longer time moved on from the first letters of Paul,so did the Jesus myth evolve,improvise and become embellished into a trinity by writers that NEVER met Jesus.
Paul who started the whole Christianity movement ,himself NEVER physically met Jesus EXCEPT through a vision.
So these are things no Christian is ever taught in their church. It is all an embellishment of a myth.
There might have been a missionary named Jesus but in all honesty Nobody can discern the real historical entity named Jesus from Paul's letter or from the anonymous gospels in the Bible.

The apotheosis of men into God like beings had been told in mythology of man-gods in Greek and Roman theology that had come eons before the Jesus character of the Bible.

I have gone over some of your threads in this section and I am baffled and disturbed as to why you have chosen to mislead innocent people with heresy and falsehood.
You write a lot of guess work with ultimately no shred of evidence. Provide evidence,not innuendos.

I watched that prerecorded ARISE TV interview with Peter Obi and I cringed at Obi's hollow emptiness.
This was an interview conducted by his acolyte and greatest fan Oseni Rufai who gave Obi a permanent and consistent "get out of jail card" and Obi still failed woefully.
He deflected questions and mouthed empty political slogans.
He was asked about the Pandora papers and he just deflected with emptiness.
He was asked how he would handle subsidy removal and his response was more emptiness.

Those who packaged Obi as an alternative to Tinubu and APC need to tell themselves the honest truth that Peter Obi based on his antecedent performance as a governor in Anambra State for 8 years and his subsequent chaotic handling of the imbroglio in his party,the Labour Party is not the expected messiah or saviour.

helinues:
Watching Peter Obi discussing economy is really disgusting. He's low upstairs

Watching Peter Obi this morning must have been so shameful and humiliating for his supporters. I could sense the anguish of Rufai Oseni who conducted the interview and he is even an Obi supporter.
How such an intellectually empty person could aspire to lead Nigeria is distressing and shows that the political landscape is populated be frauds and charlatans.
A personality like Peter Obi should never be allowed anywhere near Aso Rock Villa. It would be a disaster of monumental proportions to let Peter Obi get anywhere near the Presidency of Nigeria.

helinues:
Peter Obi was deliberately allowed to have 6 million votes not because of his popularity but because to reduce Atiku's votes/chances by all means.

In a normal Nigeria election settings, no way Peter Obi would have received 3 million votes outside his region

To those who want to use the 2023 election to overrate Peter Obi's popularity should have a rethink

I watched the prerecorded interview conducted by ARISE TV with Peter Obi conducted by an Obidient/IPOB acolyte Rufai Oseni this morning.
Despite the fact that the questions were obviously leaked to Peter Obi before the interview and the fact that Oseni was not as forceful as he usually is with APC politicians,the emptiness of Peter Obi was just too glaring.
Peter Obi is empty and lacks any intelligent ideas to fix Nigeria problems.
However I personally want Obi to win the presidential ticket of a formidable political party so that he can be exposed for the fraud and liar he is.
I want to see if Peter Obi can attain six million votes again in 2027. Even Obi in his silent moments knows it is impossible for him to get over 3 million votes all over Nigeria in 2027 but he must contest that 2027 election so that his disgrace,humiliation and crushing defeat can be prolonged and completely permanent so that such an empty person will never rise again in the political space of Nigeria.

gidgiddy:
I noticed that in the thread that was put on front page, where former Governor of Rivers State, Rotimi Amaechi, is purported to have said he only claimed to be Igbo for political reasons, something was left out

I noticed that the person who posted the video carefully edited out the last one minute of the interview so people would not see what Ameachi said in its entirety. These were the last words of Amaechi on the Igbo/Ikwerre issue:

Whether I'm an Igbo man or not is immaterial at this point in time. Again, I also argue with my brothers in the Ikwerre community, our cultures are similar, our language is also similar, the kind of food we eat is the same. So why would you deny being an Igbo man?



Scroll to the last minute of the interview below to see this part of the interview that agents of division cut off.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pJTkWWDtGw

You never tire of falsehood and propaganda.
Amechi has used the Ibo card when it was necessary to him.
He has realised that for 2027 the Ibo card is a dud card that is totally useless. Peter Obi,Obidients and IPOB have practically made it impossible for anyone associated with anything Ibo to gain any political foothold or traction in 2027. Amechi is only being politically wise and savy.

Setting the record straight for record purposes.

The agenda has always been subjugation and domination of others. Azikiwe installed a puppet in the Eastern region as a premier and now travelled to the Western Region to dispute the Premiership with Chief Awolowo.
What greed!

Once it is understood that the covert underlying aim of the Obidient movement is to propagate the program of IPOB,then everything becomes clearer.
The Obidient movement is the political arm of the same IPOB organisation.
Any ignorant person who does not understand that IPOB and the Obidient movement are different appendages of the same body are in for a rude awakening.

Good students of Nigeria history know that far back in 1945 Charles Daddy Onyema predicted that the Ibo domination of all facets of Nigeria society was only a matter of time.

The ultimate aim is domination,subjugation,mayhem and balkanisation. Anybody who cannot see this is just blind to reality.

gidgiddy:
You make a very good case why Nigeria should allow Igbos go their way as a seperate country. That's what most Igbos want too

Then talk to your politicians to set the ball rolling since all your terrorist IPOB agitators are incarcerated.

Jman06:
There's nothing in that letter suggestive of any intentions to subjugate the southwest. Forming a military government in Legos was intended to help Victor Banjo stabilize and not get captured by Nigerian government. I don't know why you yorubas always suspect Igbos all the time even when we're extending hands of fellowship to you.

Extend your handshake beyond the elbow to yourself and leave Yoruba lands alone. It is a known fact that Ibos are covetous and greedy by nature. Your ultimate agenda is domination and subjugation of people's lands and property.
Azikiwe in 1953 removed Mr Eyo Ita as premier of the Eastern Region and became the premier. In 1959 he installed his stooge Michael Okpara as premier the greedily crossed over to Lagos where he won a parliamentary seat and tried to become the Premier of the Western Region. What greed. He could not accept Eyo,a Calabar and minority as premier of the East yet he wanted to be installed as a premier in Yoruba land. Luckily for the Yoruba Chief Awolowo thwarted the evil plan.

Ojukwu now in this evil,greedy and covetous letter is telling Victor Banjo that when his for es had conquered Lagos the Biafran army would set up an army of occupation controlled by Ojukwu. Who does that?

That is why that evil Bill proposed by Bejamin Kalu is aimed at the final Ibo supremacist agenda of domination and subjugation and it will be fought vigorously and defeated in the legislature at the appropriate time.

Any presumed friendship with the average Ibo is like riding on the back of a tiger. Ultimately you will end up in its belly.

Ibos should go back to their arid and landlocked 5 states and develop them instead of covetous glances at Port Harcourt and Lagos. Don't you see the irony in the disgraceful fact that after Peter Obi spent two four year terms as governor of Anambra State he shamelessly retired to Lagos and not Onitsha. That is food for thought.

Goosethetruth:
The covetous nature of Nnamdi Azikiwe made him supplant and remove Mr Ita Eyo in 1953 as premier in the Eastern region and then installed himself as premier in 1954-1959.
In 1959,Azikiwe installed his puppet Michael Okpara as premier of Eastern region of Nigeria and then travelled to WESTERN REGION and tried to covetously install himself as premier of Western Nigeria through his NCNC because they won majority seats in the parliament.

The sage chief Awolowo understanding the serpentine nature of the typical Ibo man and also understanding the domination and subjugation agenda of the Ibo supremacist Azikiwe quickly outwitted him by appealing to the Yoruba members of the NCNC to abandon Azikiwe and cross carpet from NCNC into the Action Group (AG) on the floor of the parliament thus giving the AG the majority in the WESTERN Region parliament and automatically making Chief Awolowo the Premiership.

It is not today the covetous nature of the Ibos began. Azikiwe has always coveted Lagos and Western Nigeria masked under his fraudulent and false pan Africa agenda.
Be not fooled. The agenda of all Ibo is greed,covetousness and ultimate domination of other people's lands.

Awolowo did a good job of preserving the Unity and cultural identity of Yoruba land. It is left for those he left behind to continue to defend the values and cultural identity of true omoluabi's and prevent these marauders from tainting one inch of the land.


The greedy Azikiwe quickly removed the Calabar man Eyo Ita as premier of the Eastern Region installed his puppet fellow Ibo Okpara as premier of the East and then proceeded to try and become Premier in Western Nigeria. Which true blooded Yoruba man would allow that? What you cannot allow in your region with a Calabar man you are now trying to practice in Western Region?
Nobody is falling for that rubbish.

Chief Obafemi Awolowo showed his descendants the perfect way to handle these marauders from that landlocked arid zone. I really pity woke id1ots like Rufai Oseni,Mr Macaroni and Dele Farotimi who associate with them order to look enlightened. The Victor Banjo treatment awaits them if these people attain what they are looking for. What the baying and unruly obidients mob are currently doing on social media will be child's play.

Jman06:
You people should stop being ungrateful! Honestly, this letter has opened my eyes as to Ojukwu's intentions for secession from Nigeria. I apologize for all the while I thought his actions were for selfish reasons. He actually planned what many of us currently have in mind for the southern Nigeria, which is to achieve a liberation from the Hausa/Fulani domination.

Any honest person from Southern Nigeria would agree that the best thing for southern Nigeria is to separate from the north because of the clear religious and cultural differences between the north and south. I strongly believe that even if we split along South/North line, the south can coexist peacefully because they have a lot of things in common, including the Christian religion and western education. Yorubas and Igbos can exist peacefully in one country because despite all the jabs they throw at each other online, both tribes intermarry and do everything together peacefully offline! That's the benefit of having western education and Christianity in common by the two tribes.


So, Ojukwu wanted the best for the south and I wish we southerners could unite and work together to achieve the goal of separating from the north

You better re-read that letter,and this time remove your IPOB tainted glasses. The final aim of the Ibo in the scheme of things is evil and greedy domination and subjugation of other people's lands.
It is still in the pipeline with their modern leaders and political class. I feel sorry for any woke person attempting to accommodate them because that person or group of people would suffer the Victor Banjo treatment if the Ibo ever achieve their aim.

Wake up! Wake up!! Wake up!!!

The agenda is domination and subjugation!

Yoruba people open your eyes,smell the coffee before it is too late!

This has been the Ibo supremacist agenda from time immemorial.
Subjugation,appropriation and domination of other people's lands.
I just pity those Yoruba claiming to be woke like Rufai Oseni and Mr Macaroni who cannot see and understand the Ibo agenda. The ultimate target is Lagos by hook or crook. Azikiwe tried it but was resisted and opposed by Chief Awolowo. Ojukwu tried to use the quisling Victor Banjo during the civil war before Banjo had a rethink and realised that Ojukwu was using him to infiltrate his home land. This rethink was to cost Banjo his life.

What this so called professor has written in his epistle is just the mindset of a typical Ibo man.
The Yoruba need to wake up and smell the coffee!

98 views and only 3 comments......lol

The usual suspects are seriously avoiding this thread. (1) The terrorism enablers (2)The purveyors of propaganda (3) The serial IPOB supporters.

It is a serious irony that a person would claim to be fighting for the independence and autonomy of your people by harming,killing and destroying the same people.
They can continue to lie that all is well in their land when the opposite is the case. Imagine a whole traditional ruler having to abscond and abdicate his throne.
Imagine people being unable to visit their village for the past three years.

This is why I am totally against any pardon for terrorists like Nnamdi Kanu and Simon Ekpa. They should face trial and pay for turning parts of Eastern Nigeria to desolate territories.

Lamentation for Sodom.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0w3fT2G3Gg?si=S-rmF1lfVhHOm_5M

MEEVEET:
Ooh please shut it

One of the things that controlled inflation under Buhari was the fixed dollar rate customs charged duty

Like Peter Obi said it kills business when you import something and till it gets to the port you have zero idea what the exchange rate would be

Custom can decide to use exchange rate of ₦500 to a dollar and boom that would drop inflation, grew businesses and increase revenue massively

@Bolded,
I hope you are not suffering from insanity? Go back home and tell your dumb mother to shut it. Beast!

What concerns me with your dumb politicians and dumb politics?
If you are a brainless follower of Peter Obi or Buhari what has that got to do with my analysis of how Customs duty is computed world wide?

I don't discuss with idi0ts.
Customs duty world wide is charged based on the invoice which is usually in Dollars which is the universal currency.
So if your Naira has been devalued and Customs charge duty based on the exchange rate given to them by the Minister of Finance how can Customs impute duty on a lesser value?
Please my analysis was for sane people and not for political lap dogs.
This is why some of us refuse to give opinions on this forum because of the number of uncouth and untrained kids running around with cheap Chinese phones!

Fortune109:
Hmm!

Still doesn't make any sense... Why calculating in dollars in Nigerian Port...All these self sabotaging Policies contribute to the fallen Naira over the years...

Can't you just state the Amount of Naira it will cost to clear goods according to size or year of production or other indices...computing in dollars create unnecessary importance on Dollars against the naira in the Nigerian economy...



May be our leaders are just crazy or something!

The Nigeria customs operate under the auspices of the World customs organisation (WCO) which is the umbrella body for customs in every country of the world.
The duty of the WCO is to ensure that customs duty is fair,consistent and constant in all countries of the world. This is why import invoices or receipts are almost always calculated in dollars.
Once the cost of the goods+ insurance of goods +Freight of goods= also called CIF( cost+insurance +freight) is calculated in dollars the sum total is converted to the local currency(Naira).
Taxes are now calculated in the following sequence of 5%,10%,20%,50% and 100% depending on the item being imported.

Bear in mind that after the import duty tax. Importers will also pay 7% surcharge as well as VAT.

I hope this gives you a bit of clarity.

Gerhards:
No space for confused miscreants here, again can you stop fouling this thread with your demented ignorance!!

I see you are hoping on bigkoko giving you free gift card. Lol....😆😆
You are certainly on a long thing....shut your imbecilic mouth and stop disturbing my mentions....

aswani:
The interesting thing is the guy is a proper businessman with a lot of sensible ideas popping out of his head. I genuinely admire his hustle if the truth be told.

You are right though, he seems to be going through another faze of reliving the Pete Obi loss and is firing in all directions randomly.

Which is sad because not long ago, he said he was being selective of people he is responding to on here and sensibly letting things slide but now this?!

@Bolded,
Never judge a book by its cover. This Bigkoko character is a typical fraudster personified. I don't know when you joined this forum but back in the years 2011-2013 there was a woman on this forum called Wunmi Allen. She had great ideas but ended up scamming so many members of this forum of their money including her estranged husband. You may like to goggle that name if the remnants of that thread still exists because the mods deleted a lot of posts.
This Bigkoko character reminds me so much of Wunmi Allen with his smooth business talk,tribalism, and insults. I would seriously advise you not to make the error of advancing him any funds so you don't end up regretting.



Here is one of the threads about Wunmi Allen.

https://www.nairaland.com/1173970/scam-alert-omowunmi-allen-pre-order#13994034