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Darkrebel666:
~ Everybody knows Biggie and Jay Z used the memorization method. Not everything is off the top or created on the spot though, but verses they have memorized but didn't write due to hustling and lack of time to put the pen to paper..

i thought you said you were done with the argument, what brought you back? biggie didn't use any memorisation method, he never wrote his lyrics down - this is why he had nothing in his reserve in his tank unlike 2pac when they both died.

biggie just felt the beat sample for a while & then spewed it. of course, studio work then go into it for post-production. they put the pieces together like video editing & the music is done.

This skill takes years to master as Jay z said in Art of Rap and Eminem has been a writer right from day one. He never used the memorization method, so using B.I.G as an analogy doesn't cut it.

you are talking crap as usual.
when did i use biggie's analogy to fit into what eminem did?

Now you are saying Eminem didn't go into the studio and do in one take and that he may have used three days.

as above, crap as usual.
if eminem didn't go to the studio, who mixed the song? did he freestyle it and also used his mouth to beatbox it?

Why are you defending someone that said it with his mouth that- ''Rap God was a freestyle, off the top of the dome piece when i was sleep on the couch" ..

because many others like him have come off the top to make songs. you are the one that is being misled by the sentence. off the top means it wasn't written. whether it took 3 weeks to make is irrelevant - as long as it wasn't written down. you are the one who thought he sat down somewhere in a studio and rapped for 7 minutes in one take and the joint was put in his CD.

The same Eminem said it in that Interview when he was asked how many days it took him to write Rap God . He said- It was a freestyle, just in was one take. You've run out of ideas that you are now creating possibilities out of something that didn't actuallyhappen..

you have never been the sharpest tool in the box. you don't understand english language.

Eminem wrote Rap God and over-edited it. If he was on NL, he would be laughing his ass off seeing your comments.

he didn't write rap god.
he freestyled it - every bar in the song was freestyled. how long it took him to come up with it is another matter but i believe he never had to write it down.

danbrowndmf: Am Simply Geting ur point bro

it's not hard to get......
it's just that some folks thought he freestyled it the way it came out on the CD. hell no, every rap song gets mixed....looping, verses are edited or trans-changed from one verse to abother.

the summa-cümma-lumma part was sped up from 1.0 to 1.5 or even 2.0. he couldn't have spewed it like that when doing it originally - all that is studio effizi but does that remove the fact that the verse was never written down?

elampiro:
Stop all these lies. FRooney has not scored 4 goals as a CF. I listed his matches but you are looking at whoscored data which is not accurate.

whoscored data isn't accurate?
i never thought i would see the day elampiro would disagree with the holy bible of his football stats. so who should we listen to? you?

you had his 2 goals against sunderland in your list. did falcao not start against sunderland? if falcao was on the pitch, how the hell was rooney the main striker on the night?

it's time to sing ayagayagayo for yourself.

Rooney has not played 4 matches as a AMC. Although that is were he has wrecked his most damage to oppositions with goals and assists. On stats he is the best there in the league.

he has played 4 matches as an attacking midfielder(centre) and has scored 4 goals there. that stat is irrelevant anyways. it's the CF stats that is getting my goat.

Coogar, go ahead with your Rooney hate. I am off here.

i don't hate rooney
he's not good enough to lead the line. VP's min/goal is better than rooney's - statistics prove that.

Emaprince:
That shiit is like a movie, coogar.

yep....
that's the movie notorious - biggie's autobiography. everything in the movie was narrated according to biggie's life story. no lies.

Emaprince:
I get it.. BTW, teach me how you write those two words @ su.ck and c0ck

special characters on the iphöne.
i think you can do it from a PC keyboard too.

ä = alt 0228 or alt 132
ë = alt 0235 or alt 137
and so on and forth.

Emaprince:
ROTFLMFAO

i am not kidding....

this is the scene....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usn3tEMuPdc

look at the surprise on the face of the nuccas in the studio as biggie spat that verse. his inspiration was a blöwjob from 2 bïtches, pepsi, weed & kentucky chicken.

elampiro:
RVP has played all his time as a forward. While Rooney had even been used as a DM.

the positions are irrelevant.
herrera is scoring from the midfield - smalling is scoring from the defence. why should rooney not score? he passes it to the wing and makes a run into the box to score from crosses. which of his goals did he score from the centre of the pitch?

Herrera is an attacking midfielder. Rooney was a deep lying midfielder without license to move forward considering Young and Fellaini left a vacuum in our midfield. Even Carrick was injured for a while. You dont just know ball sef. Even Mc Nair had to play some matches.

what is smalling??
an attacking defender?

Are you counting those matches we played before the transfer window was closed? When the team didnt know its left from its right?

if i counted it for van persie then rooney isn't excluded. rooney scored against swansea - that was before the transfer window closed.

Meanwhile, Rooney has 6 goals as a centre forward. Then he has scored every time he played the number 10.
Swansea 1 goal
QPR- 1 goal
Sunderland 2 goals
Spurs 1 goal
Villa 1 goal.

Ayagayagayagayo hei ayagayagayagayo

rooney has scored 4 league goals in 11 games as a centre forward - it's not just good enough for an elite striker. if rooney as a striker was tearing the net when the season first started, he wouldn't have been moved deeper in the midfield.

SailorXY:
this is nothing, absolutely nothing. who gives such excuse in public? anyone can as well roll out their team B to start the season & finish strongly with their first 11 pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffftttttttttttttttttttttttttt

unfortunately, elampawa has no shame. he would look for the most ridiculous excuses when he's ran out of things to say.

why are chelsea players not tired? they have the thinnest squad in the league and yet they keep winning. they played in europe, went all the way in carling cup and they have only 15 players they use consistently.

elampiro: United played with 10 men for 45 minutes and lost 1-6.

Kompany sent off in 11th minute. City lost 2-3. With 10 men they almost killed us when they fought from three goals down.

Your porous memory needs a refill.

you need to take more cod liver oil to help your memory. we were walloped 1-6 cos at no point in that game did united give up on trying to equalise - and that was why city players were taken apart yesterday by sky pundits. they rolled over after mata's goal. they accepted the loss even before the game was over.

in the 1-6 loss, as at the 90th minute, the score was 3-1. yet, united kept pouring men forward looking for means to equalise and showing a fighting attitude till the end. they didn't care if more goals were conceded, they just refused to roll over & accept the loss.

Your crashing is getting worse the more you try to be clever.

City played 6 games (5 EPL, 1 FA CUP) when Toure went to AFCON. City only won one. grin grin Ukwu!!!

1/6 win when Toure was away says it all. cheesy

Before Toure went to AFCON, City had climbed to a point they were to over take Chelsea. Silva dashed all that.

but they lost only one game!
now that he's back, they have lost about 5 away games in a row. they didn't win any champions league game when toure was in the team. in toure's absence hey beat bayern @ home and killed roma away from home - those were only the 2 games they won in their entire european campaign. they also lost community shield to arsënal with toure in the team.

coincidence?

* Carrick is the worst in interception for us this season. Save us sermons from 1930. Jones always one of our best in interception since his arrival. This season Jones is still best.

* Among our midfielders this season, Carrick is the worst in interception. Herrera, Mata and Blind time in midfield far beat Carrick interception.

carrick is the club's best interceptor in years. the reason is number is low this term was because his presence in the team coincided with most of our wins & we bossed possession in most of those games to the point that there's virtually nothing to intercept.

we outpassed city last night & we hugged the bulk of the possession. however, when he's absent, the midfield collapses and we come against lots of pressure from the opponents. i don't just make claims without having my statistical evidence to back my claims.

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the above is carrick's historical stats on interception. i dare you to find any united player who has intercepted as high as 4.4/game in the history of the club. jones(your hero) has 3.5 as his highest in his entire career. khaki isn't leather.

I favour varied talent of midfielders even the very slow ones. Why do I like Scholes and Xavi?

But I will pick Mascherano as my DM over anyone in the world. I talk mostly of a balanced team with good dribblers, ball keepers, scorers etc.

busquets is the best DM in the world. that you prefer pace & power doesn't make it the ideal way to go about it. this is why busquets is keeping towering players like toure & mascherano away from the DM position. it's about intelligence, not running around like a headless chicken.

Carrick will not be relevant today if someone like Fellaini is not in our midfield three. Is Fellaini is taken off and there is no one like do the damage for us in that area, Carrick and Herrera wont be able to cope with the oppositions running riot on us. I wont forget to mention that Valencia offers him a helping hand.

was carrick relevant when he destroyed toure at the etihad in 12/13? abi fellaini helped him out then? what about when carrick destroyed ramires at stamford bridge in the same season?

cleverley must have been a mascherano type that was helping carrick back then to beat teams with gorillas in their midfield. after cleverley destroyed toure in the 2nd half of the community shield in 2011, i finally came to conclusion that midfield battle is brains over brawns.

Players like Hargreaves, Mascherano, Kean, are needed in a team. The problem Madrid has today is that of a proper DM who can stop oppositions.

they are not needed!
spain didn't have a single player like this in their midfield when they won euro 2008, world cup 2010 & euro 2012. you should watch the final of 2010 world cup and see how busquets kept de jong & van bommel at arm's length or how busquets destroyed schweinsteiger & khedira in the semis.

afrodoc2:
I mentioned bale.
bring back nani, buy depay, buy bale offload di maria to PSG.

and what if bale does a di Maria?

@elampawa,
when you dress up your comment, your reply is waiting.

Vickybee:
You guys will later say that women are confuse.

You want a wife with great culinary skill but still complain if she smells like an onions.

Crackhaus, are you seeing this?

i want a wife with great culinary skill but it doesn't mean she should die in the kitchen. if she's stressed, she can order food - as long as the belly is filled, how the food came by is not important.

and if she insists in going to the kitchen, she must have a proper jacuzzi bath before coming to bed. it's simple really.

Ibime:
Of course it's pre-written. The difference between Em and us is that he can afford to sit in the studio all day and do that. We need to go in with our material ready.

how's it pre-written?
i go off top for 8 bars & rest. i repeat the same process 20 times in a row. a good engineer pieces the jigsaw together with a good beat & co.....

is this pre-written? written where?

armyofone:
Lol, I thought I have heard it all
Anyway, I like your style man, Ruth Chris please.
You are so right, African women do waste too much time cooking this and that when they could easily order take out or dine in.

and then smell like onions & tomato in the bedroom. such a turn off!

Ibime:
There's a big difference between freestyling and memorising the lyrics you are going to spit.

When the flow is complicated, it is sometimes better to memorise as you go along making the rap, because of the nuances in the flow you want to project or the tongue twisting you might want to apply does not allow you to pause to start writing things down.

I have done this with many tracks, difference is I create the first 8 bars or so in my head while the beat is playing, then I write them down so not to forget.

This is essentially the same as writing, but without a pen.

All Jay-Z and Biggie albums were recorded this way as is all of RZAs albums.

I totally believe you if you say Eminem recorded Rap God this way because the flow is complicated, you don't have time to start writing things down otherwise you might forget how you tongue twisted a certain sequence.

so let's say you create the first 8 bars from your head, spewed it in a booth while it's been recorded.....you took a break, you create another 12 bars. another break & another 16 bars. all recorded. an engineer loops it together and makes a track......

is that pre-written?

Stillfire:
Every man wants a mentally stimulating woman, but do not want the consequences of her being mentally stimulated.

i agree!
it's really a gift & a curse. we want women to be educated & civilised but there are big risks attached to that. the robot can very well turn against its programmer.

Do you put into consideration that the prospects of getting a job after being out for years limits anyone's chances of joining the workforce afterwards. If you can assure women that the future won't be bleak for them, maybe they will stay home .

and this was why i said if she desires kids & husband, she should forget pursuing a career. it's very very difficult to combine the two. child care is becoming expensive & housemaids are becoming more evil.

For now, I have a solution though, men should be invested in the home as well as much as women, in order to 'strike a balance'. I am not against protecting the family unit. Good families make for good society.

men would have loved to stay at home but biology does not agree. my wife carries the breast, not me.

By derivatives, I mean maths/physics o. Read that sentence again.

my bad. i thighs you meant food condiments

I agree 100%. But crazie bone thinks there's nothing wrong in it going all the way and not getting anything out of it.

crazie bone is being unfair.

https://www.nairaland.com/871307/official-manchester-united-fan-thread/1184#27730166

elampiro:
^^^
You didnt address the part I was asking about Fellaini's effectiveness in the hole. Have you seen him there before?

coogar: he scored plenty of goals in that role at everton. he's the man of that position. the way his chest captures the ball & kills the ball dead can be used effectively to batter opponents.

fellaini should play in the hole in tough away games.

elampiro:
Not enough to make a case for him yet.

elampiro:
Not enough to make a case for him yet.

coogar: 11 goals/5 assists from the hole @ everton in 12/13? no freekicks, no awoof penalties. i think he's more than justified to be played in that role.

even your holy grail(whoscored) agrees with me. 12/13 was the only season fellaini played in the hole & that's his best season in england so far.

[img]http://164.177.157.12/img/blog/2014%2f11%2fFellaini.jpg[/img]

elampiro:
11 goals 5 assists from 31 starts?

Not okay to me. Well, we will see how things work out.

Can we see similar stat for Herrera?

SailorXY:
Rooney, Falcao, di Maria & Herrera are creative players with ball @ feet, Fellaini can also create with knock-downs & rebound avenues! that's why I feel a diamond 4-4-2 with Fellaini in that hole is a far more balanced formation for now.

coogar: you make sense, bro.
fellaini can create chances with his knock downs. when opponents press our defenders and we often struggle to play from the back, de gea can go straight to fellaini & you can expect the big man to use his chest to trap the ball.

it means you have a player that can create chances and can also get his hands dirty to help the team. fellaini is the business as long as he is playing close to the striker. he's a thorn in the flesh of defenders & he's tackled more than any player in the squad so far.

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elampawa should bow his head in shame for doubting fellaini's ability.

parrotibaba:
excuses!!! LVG hard a plethora of injury cases during d first half of d season ,yet he bested Moyes recorded ,he only got his team back recently

let them be making excuses.....
it's not fellaini's injury that had moyes look like a fool, it was where he decided to play him.

fellaini thrived under moyes at everton playing in the hole. moyes didn't have the balls to play him there cos he had to somehow play RVP & rooney even when they are unfit.

when i brought it up that fellaini is very good in the hole & should be playing there for us, elampawa shouted it down. now, he's lapping up his vomit concerning the big fella's influence behind the main striker.

Stillfire:
Lol, this is why I like you. The fraud on this thread is annoying. In one breath they say women are not cut out for so called tough jobs and are sad, but they still want her to pursue her education, get straight A's and become a housewife. Men deciding women's fate since 300 BC. Chai!

women should be educated - contrary to what you think, every man desires a woman that can present mentally-stimulating points in an argument. however, if she desires to marry & raise rugrats, her career needs to pause till those kids make it to high school(at the very least). it's the most ideal method to nourish the kids.

So what do you think of the premise of this discussion? If women are not cut out for the workforce, cannot build civilization, are basically tantamount to nonentities who are stealing the air that men are supposed to only breathe, shouldn't women focus more on their 'innate' home economics skills, why educate a girl to university taking the space of genuine men like yourself who need to get admission into the university?

because there are women(albeit very few) who do not desire marriage or desire to have kids. for this minority few, nothing should stop them from going as far as they can in their career. maternity leave or what not does not apply to them.

for the one who wants to be married to a man and perhaps have kids in the future, they should be educated enough to a degree level and then stay home to raise their families.

it's counter-productive to the economy to give women equality rights to pursue degrees in top universities only for those women to abandon their career to raise kids. for every woman that does that, a man who could have taken his career to the level of einstein has been denied.

Are you going to use derivatives to cook nkwobi and egusi soup?

i am very poor in the kitchen - it's a skill i never thought i needed. if i am hungry, i will buy food rather than waste my precious time adding derivatives to cook nkwobi & egusi stew.

Vickybee:
I don't do ugly dudes.

all na shakara jor.
he's good enough for you.

@unibenstudent,
keep the pressure up. each time she's called you ugly, she has put a "happy" smiley next to it. it's a sign she's highly interested in you. if i were in your shoes, i would PM vickybee.

vickybee & unibenstudent sitting on the tree....K-I-S-S-I-N-G.

elampiro:
It's RVP.

Rooney had a long spell in midfield, then some time at number 10. Not to talk of being withdrawn from attack to midfield while games needed to run down.

rooney - 12 goals, 2473 mins
1 goal in every 206 mins.

RVP - 10 goals, 1993 mins
1 goal in every 199 mins.

all we keep hearing is rooney had a spell in the midfield. the same midfield that has herrera scoring 5 goals in 13 starts. smalling has scored 1/3 of rooney's goals as a centre back. what other excuses do rooney fans need to admit he's not a world class striker?

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rooney has scored only 4 goals in 11 league games as a centre forward & yet elampawa has the nerve to compare him to costa & aguero.

my belle o, my head o!

elampiro:
Dont mind these guys. Rooney would be in the same region of goals with Costa and Aguero if his time in the midfield were to be converted to striking position.

no, he wouldn't.
he lacks the tact & the technique of players like aguero, costa or even harry kane. rooney is a plodder!

His goal/match return in the number 9 is similar to the best strikers in the EPL.
Coogar prays and fast to find excuses to criticize Rooney. If he manages to praise Rooney or even paste his gif, e no dey reach e belle. All na washe. I just dey laf whenever I see his comments. He must drive it down to Rooney eventfully.

rooney's min/goal is even worse than van persie that many fans don't want back in the team. we need a world class striker - another season has gone & rooney has posted mediocre attacking stats yet again.

elampiro:
What has this got to do with the argument? City beat us 6-1 under SAF.

city played against 10 men for 45 mins.

Under SAF last three years we became inferior to Chelsea and City. We were always outclassed. Does that meant Carrick and Scholes were rubbish? You soccer analysis changes with tide as results pour in week in week out.

in SAF's last 3 seasons.
we beat them in 10/11
even in 11/12, we burnt them @ etihad(FA cup) we beat them away in 12/13

we didn't become inferior to city. your memory is inferior to mine.

City have now lost 5 league matches since Toure left for AFCON, but lost only 2 before he left.

Crystal Palace
Bunley
Arsenal
Liverpool
Man United



How market?

so what does this prove?
you would have a point if city's losses coincided with toure's absence. you are only reiterating my point that city are poorer with toure in their squad - which nullifies your points that power is needed in the midfield.

How come City has been useless without Toure or without Toure at his best? City lost three macthes when Toure left for AFCON. Now they have two more because he is battle fatigued. Before he left for Nations cup, he was rested in a particular cheap match and City manage to draw at closing stages. The nest matche he played and they won before he left for AFCON.

city are useless with toure.
how many games did city lose in toure's absence? city have only lost a league game in toure's absence. the 2 games city managed to win in the CL is without toure.

city are very very poor with toure in the team. his power is useless. brains over brawns, my friend. pep knew what he was doing when he preferred a 19 year old busquets to yaya toure.

Who is bolaise?

Did he play AFCON final?
Is he over 30 years?
Did he play in the UCL?
Do they fight for EPL title or top 4?

bolasie is the wing wizard giving opponents hell in the premier league. if you dunno him yet, you are not a football fan.

Carrick did not play Toure in pocket. Fellaini and Young did the distraction. Toure was drawn into stopping the duo.

fellaini & young didn't play in the midfield. carrick & herrera destroyed toure & fernandino.

Barca had at least 6 physical players which balanced their team. At their prime, Alves, Abidal, Pedro, Puyol and even Messi could cover massive ground in seconds, thereby debying opposition space and shrinking the midfield zone for Xavi.

barca have no physical player in their midfield. none of busquets, xavi or iniesta is physical. how can you be mentioning defenders and forwards as midfielders? so it was abidal & puyol winning the battle in the midfield?

perhaps abidal, alves and messi also played for spain.

Lies, Carrick is one of the worst in interception in Man United. Our boys have all learnt how to tackle. Herrera praised Rooney for encouraging them to tackle in recent games.

carrick has the best interception stats in our midfield since he was signed. his greatest attribute is his interception, not tackling.

Yesterday, Mata and Herrera won the highest tackles. Valencia, Jones and Blind had the highest interceptions. Infact, Jones interception/24 minutes is the best in the team.

jones - defenfer
valencia - defender
blind - defender

which of the players you mentioned here played in the centre of the midfield? your argument skills need help.

Carrick is somewhere at the bottom while Herrera is 7th. The only players Carrick is better than at intercepting are our strikers and wingers- Rooney, RVP, Wilson, Falcao, Januzajand Fellaini.

this is retardëd!
we are talking about midfield battle & you are mentioning RVP & rooney. really?

in case you have lost sight of the argument - i asked how much power is important in the midfield. you favour the toure type, i favour the carrick/busquets type. interception trounces tackling but you no go gree - you prefer the chaotic man-mountains like zouma & toure in the midfield.

football has gone beyond having bumbling oafs in the midfield. a game is won & lost in the midfield. it's the most important area of the team & carrick has won the most trophies of all the MFs still playing in england & the most common factor in our squad since 2006.

nyabinghi:
is Rooney finished? Who has scored the most goals for united ?

who has played the most minutes for united in the attack?

nyabinghi:
is Rooney finished

yes!
he was anonymous again last night - you would think if united were to score 4 goals against city, rooney would at least get a brace including a commanding performance.

the much-maligned midfielders have outperformed rooney in the last 4 weeks or thereabout. if rooney isn't finished, we won't be looking for a new centre forward as we speak.

afrodoc2:
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RB= clyne
CB= Hummels or Thiago Silva

i still think rafael deserves a chance.
although, valencia has been very good defensively but he offers f@ck-all offensively. if we had a RB that could cross last night, city for concede 10.

at the same time, i am very convinced rafael woulda done something silly if he had played last night. he woulda probably kicked the lumps out of aguero instead of ushering him out like valencia did perfectly last night.

rafael
80% attack, 60% defence, red/yellow card

valencia
70% attack, 80% defence, no risk of card

valencia is the safer option by a country mile

CM= Gundogan or Vidal

CF= Cavani or Lacazette or Chicharito

We are surely getting an AM/WF= Depay or Reus or Bale

what of gareth bale?

nyabinghi:
enjoy yourself I got myself busy staking on sports. Soccer has passed being a fan and not making dough

see you next season.

nyabinghi:
how did mata cope in this game

liverpool were shyte
besides, di maria came on and provided the assist for what turned out to be the winner.

elampiro:
They beat Man United in FA cup and Liverpool in the league. They also beat Everton.

we beat the teams that finished first & second last season. teams your darling moyes said we were aspiring to become barely 12 months ago with the bulk of the same players.

Man City had only lost two games before Yaya Toure went to AFCON. City were second, just three points behind Chelsea. Yaya left and City has lost 3 matches and drew several.

the ones they lost in carling cup & champions league don't count?

Yaya went to play 8 African matches in three weeks (two friendly matches plus 6 AFCON matches) under scourging sun. At 31 (African football age), he is never going to recover. This is why Silva is now useless.

silva was city's best player last night - provided the all important assist for their first goal. he has scored & assisted plenty. city aren't poor going forward, they are useless when trying to defend with toure & kompany being utterly useless.

Carrick and Herrera have all been resting and now they are fresh while other players like Toure, Matic, Fernadinho, Hedenson, are battle fatigue from week in week out in UCL, EPL and FA cup matches.

excuses!
na only toure go africa? bolasie went to africa and he's been beasting the EPL since he returned.

Yaya Toure is mostly particularly hit and Toure is City.

yaya toure is useless.
carrick placed him in his pocket after the first 15 mins of the game.

Alves has the energy of a lion.

The 5-0 has much to do with energetic puyol man marking Ronaldo. Messi and Pedro speeding football. Abidal and Alves beasting and powerful football.

barcelona weren't a physical side.....
all they do is press, recover possession quickly and deny their opponents the ball for 80 mins. when you don't have the ball, there's little you can do to hurt your opponents.

In those days, when an opposition is in possession, Abidal, Alves, Pedro, Alexis, Puyol, Mascherano would give the opposition a chase of their life that they had no option than to surrender the ball. Even Bousquet does this too. Bousquet, contrary to opinion, is not a soft player.

what you described above is not pace & power. none of the players you mentioned play in the central midfield - it's just pressing and hunting in packs. they do not have a towering beast like toure, paulinho, zouma, etc in their midfield.

matter of fact, it was the sole reason toure was discarded by pep & a more refined busquets was preferred. busquets rarely tackles, he's a master of interception just like carrick or herrera. they anticipate, stand in the gap, win the ball & keep possession.

power in football is needless.

afrodoc2:
fair enough. i have always been a fan of hummels and know he has class. however if his body is failing him it might be advisable to look elsewhere.

hummels would bring a wealth of experience to reset the brains of jones, mcnair & blackett. this is why we need a world class defender - a leader of men at the back.

dortmund's team defence can be shambolic no doubt but looking at hummels individually it appears to me that he has lost a yard or two of pace. its too bad that there are few quality central defenders at the moment in football, he just might be the best available with all i have said

even the great de gea couldn't save us from some embarrassing defeats last season. football is a team game - if there's no protection for the defence, even the world best defenders would get torn apart.

we need a new RB, CB, CM & CF

crackhaus: Regarding the topic, I can't say whether or not the modern woman is sad ... it's not something that I wish to dwell on because the derivatives for happiness and/or sadness cuts across time and is independent of it.

i can categorically tell you the modern woman is extremely sad. 1 in 3 women take anti-depressants in the US. the study also found that women are two and a half times more likely to take antidepressant medication as males,

23% of women ages 40 to 59 take antidepressants, more than in any other age or sex group. in a nutshell, you cannot be happy and yet consume such amount of pills. the use of anti-depressants has gone up to a whopping 400% in the last 2 decades.

mr crackhaus, i hope i have been able to convince you that the modern woman is extremely sad.

Stillfire:
Wow wow wow, all of a sudden all the men on this thread are 'homely'. Saving this thread for future use! Hahaha

Where's Coogar jare, Coogar are you going to be in the kitchen while your unpregnant wife relaxes in the room and your mum visits?

not in my lifetime.....
my wife has to have an excellent culinary skill even when she's pregnant. pregnancy is not a disease. she would cook more while pregnant sef. pregnant women need to exercise more to ease delivery of the child.

afrodoc2:
Have you watch Dortmund's most recent matches. Hummels is presently having a "Kompany" season IMO.
No pace, mistimed tackles and generally found somewhere in midfield most times Dortmund concedes.
LVG should do his due diligence before signing players o

that is what happens when the team isn't playing well. we had a taste of that last season when even some of our fans here wanted everyone out of the club completely.

minus blind & herrera, the 9 other players featured against city last season and we were tonked home & away by an aggregate of 7-1. hummels is a bloody good defender. we would be silly not to have him if he wants to come to us.

AdeLaNa1:
Young or Fellaini to mke TOTW

young would get a 2nd IF

Darkrebel666:
~ Sometimes I wonder if you really live in England...Have you not watched the red bull Interview or maybe its you that needs to learn English well.

you are a big olodo.....
no one goes to any battle without having prepared for who he's battling. there are 2 types of battling - the normal battling where you already know who you are killing & a freestyle battle where you just rap off the top & use the surroundings or the things that are happening in the room to destroy your opponent.

Someone was asked how he prepared for brawls or what he does before he faces an opponent and he said --

Eminem: I would have written rhymes and punchlines bla bla. How is this English too difficult for you to comprehend?

so this suggests eminem cannot freestyle? because charron or DNA writes rhymes & punchlines before battling means they don't freestyle in the battle?

you need education - go & watch charron vs pat stay title match. charron freestyled his entire 3rd round cos the angle he had written got the plug pulled. he had no 3rd round going into the battle & he had to improvise by freestyling for about 5 mins. just because an MC writes doesn't mean they cannot freestyle.

memory can fail you & you have to rely on your freestyling ability to bail you out. this is why cats like DNA & charron can never choke in a battle.

Darkrebel666:
~ Coogar ..just so you know..you are saying crap and talking out of point...
I never said Eminem cannot freestyle..I only said its impossible to freestyle throughout a 6 minutes instrumental using well planned multies, metaphors, wordplays...even a tongue twister ...
matter of fact its your problem..
.
It's pointless arguing ..I'm done ... keep on believing whatever you want...

you are a big olodo.
eminem freestyled rap god doesn't mean he went into a booth & had the whole verses spewed out in one take. it could be in blocks - it coulda taken 3 days but the fact is - he never wrote any of the lyrics down somewhere before spewing it out.

biggie spewed out the entire verses on juicy track in one take. he smoked a blunt, had 2 women sück his cöck, drank pepsi & KFC chicken. he dragged himself to the booth & started rapping. his engineer was like WTF? is anyone writing this shyte down? he had the 3 verses out straight out from his head, no pen!

nyabinghi:
may oya dry your sperm bank, if I post your numerous controversies, nairaland will crash, my ex username was created using an email acct with details long forgotten, when ur folks banned nyabinghi over 7 years ago, I created the inverse. Smell the coffee, did LVG sell valencia, rooney, jones, young, fellaini according to you, I am a dir hard united fan known everywhere I step . I am not a fan by posting trashy gifs, spewing bunkums, arguing like a retard. United is greater than LVG, we measure success of coaches in MUFC by trophies not UCL qualification. We are not Arsenal.

you are a tool!
weren't you convinced LVG is doomed? didn't you say we won't make top 4? didn't you say moyes plays more attacking football than LVG? you have been exposed as a fair weather fan. you are not a die-hard fan, you are a moyes cöck-sucker. if gollum cüms in a cup, you would drink it up & lick the cup.

elampiro:
[b]Arsenal using some pace and power in their midfield and won 8/8. Chamberlain defeated us in Old Trafford with pace and power. We have only won 6/6 yet Coogar thinks we have the best form in the EPL.

arsenal haven't beaten city, spurs & liverpool in their run of games so united are the form team.

Not only Herrera and Carrick that have beaten City.
Since Yaya Toure went to AFCON.

Manchester City2 : 2Burnley Match Report

Manchester City 0 : 2 Arsenal Match Report

Manchester City 0 : 2Midlebrough

Liverpool 2 : 1Manchester City Match Report

Burnley 1 : 0 Manchester City Match Report

Crystal Palace 2 : 1 Manchester City Match Report
Bye!

and what does this prove?
city before AFCON lost games
city after AFCON lost games.

teams with no pawa dumped city out of europe - and it's now a yearly ritual for city. pawa is irrelevant in modern football. carrick is not pawaful & yet ate city's midfield throughout.

elampawa, any more excuses?

elampiro:
When Barca beat Madrid 5-0. Alves was 3 players covering so much ground even for the DMs and right wing. Barca had powerful men like Messi, defenders too to complement. Pace and power was there.
I willcontinue the stuff tomorrow, I am tired for now.

you mean alves played in the midfield?

xavi & iniesta were responsible for the 5-0 victory against madrid. nothing to do with alves.........and messi isn't a powerful player. he's a defensive liability.

elampiro:
Was Rooney in our midfield when we drew West Brom 2-2, and some other games like that?

januzaj on the right, shaw & di maria on the left. these players are conveniently the poorest users of the ball in the country.

I knew this argument was going to end in Rooney. You get problem.

hehe!
this is not about rooney. rooney is doing just fine in this philosophy. he could be better but his performance is satisfactory.