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BlackLeopard:
Actually yeah, the only difference between a lot of moral vs. immoral IS consent. (If I take someone's thing? It's theft. If they agree with me grabbing it? It's totally not.) So not only moral vs. not, but whole the legal basis from that point in most states as well.

Children cannot consent. It's not a question about wordz even. It's a question of biology. They brains aren't developed to grasp mature matters on adult level, therefore they cannot consent, period.

But continue equating choices between two adults to all the abominations like child rape.

(By the way, there was some studies out there the only people so obsessed with thoughts about what's pedophilia and not, are pedophiles themselves. The rest of the society don't give a flying Bleep. So, present gentlemen being all about kiddies? This speaks volumes about you.)

in other words, you are saying consensual sex between 2 adolescent siblings is not immoral?

MrTA:
Chelsea are a different kettle of fish because they wont try to win. This makes them more dangerous as theyre play for a draw and probably get it or beat us if we get over confident and attack too much.

he's a tactical wizard & he's not ashamed to play for a draw. he would tell his players to be patient, look out & punish us for our mistakes(phil jones love for backpasses), score and lock up the game completely.

if we can manage to score first, we would beat chelsea easily.

let's talk tactics.....

how do we approach the chelsea game? same team or should we tweak? make no mistakes about it, pochettino, rodgers & pellegrini dropped a ball for not addressing our dominant left side - jose mourinho would sort that out.

i see him playing 5-5-0 or 4-6-0
zouma would join the midfield containing matic & ramires. hazard & willian would flank them & one of fabregas & oscar would play as false 9. jose would play for a draw.

crackhaus:
Satan didn't have the necessary tools to be able to convince Adam into disobeying God, there's no way he would have succeeded using his cunning nature on Adam.

There's a whole story as to why and how everything that happened, happened the way it did - when I used to frequent religion section, I believe I had a lengthy discourse with someone then.

The summary is that Adam had been given dominion over everything on earth, a position previously held by Lucifer (the serpent) after his fall - this was the beginning of Lucifer's beef with man.
After Lucifer and his followers were thrown out of heaven, earth actually became his home and he lorded over it.

It was a big blow to Lucifer's deluded sense of superiority that got him mad because after being sent out of heaven, God still came to earth to make man head over a place he and the bodiless demons called home.

He had nothing to offer Adam in return that Adam wasn't already enjoying as chief administrator of the earthly realm.
But Eve... she was Adam's weakness and he saw it. All he had to do was convince her, which was easier because he could appeal to her vanity... and then she would do the job of convincing Adam.

The truth is a woman surely has a certain kind of power over her man, especially if she can get that man to completely love and trust her

100% correct!
they always do - this is why i am always taken aback when i read some pity-party stories here. a woman who cannot hold her man tight on a leash is not intelligent.

chrisley024:
Mata was offside cos it takes Rooney 10-20 secs to control a pass and his turning took him same amount of time before he then made the pass. smh

We should give one Orijin to that linesman.

you cannot blame rooney
he turns at the speed of earth revolution. i was happy the goal counted though. in 12/13, ashley young was denied a valid goal @ the etihad.

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shrekandfiona:
now this is hilarious some of my work colleagues are silently following this thread

i thought such was forbidden in most nigerian companies. do you work @aso rock?

chrisley024:
I've been supporting Rooney since the day he became a United. Your problem is you fail to agree he has regressed tremendously; he's currently just ok and nothing more. Problem is when you join the English press to hype him to Ronaldo's level. I've got no issue with any player as long as we keep taking the 3pts.

Just tell him, since your are the closest to him here, to work on that his awful 1st touch cos it spoils our play upfront and surrenders the ball to the opponent.

#WekeepMarchingOn

35 touches on sunday - the poorest in his career. even in the games we have been tonked, rooney would normally get 70 touches if he completes 90 mins.

you could see the game passed him by apart from the pass to mata which should have been an offside call anyways. i like how this new system benefits the midfielders....na rooney sabi.

elampiro:
RVP is the hynea because these are inbox issues. Should I bring forward the midfield stats, Rooney will fly higher than RVP like an astronaut jet over an company chopper. Check the number of passes that has to do with build up play.

But you can lie. RVP never had these Assist. Check your opta.

opta's way of counting assists are different to the premier league standard. for instance, opta didn't give an assist to falcao when he won that penalty that rooney scored against sunderland.......but premier league counted it for him.

crackhaus:
Some parts of the article were in jest, but not all of it.

The writer was trying to prove the weaker-vessel theory null and void, and that was the serious part hence my rebuttal.

the writer must have been high on paraga if he actually thought that was a superior argument. a man is more likely to be persuaded by his partner.

eve was no stranger to adam so he was not at fault to believe her. besides, until then - adam hadn't experienced any sort of deceit or falsehood from eve. why would he doubt his partner?

eve on the other hand should have been smarter. satan was a stranger to her. why was she so gullible to believe what a stranger had told her? adam had been in that garden alone for sometime - how come satan didn't try his tricks then?

tpiadotcom:
My point was these are people who do not have any obvious excuse to justify their hatred of the word "marry". They also refuse to explain exactly what it is that gets them so riled up at the thought of marriage.

Perhaps its a cultural thing but it looks somehow.

they are simply following your footsteps.

you are 48 and counting.....yet no hope of landing a husband. in the end, you would have to secure the services of a spërm bank on the off-chance that your eggs haven't already calcified.

you see what your fake christianity has led you to?

damiso:
Each to his own indeed.

However as I said in my intial post 'sadness' and 'happiness' are highly subjective and fluid states of mind/terms. There was one research that said Nigerians are the happiest people on earth but one week day in Idumota or Oshodi after having been harassed by car par touts and thoroughly insulted by the angry women who feels you disrupted her biscuit stall that was on the pavement that is meant for walking might leave you wondering where all the happy people are However go to a typical owambe on a Saturday and seeing people dance shoki like their lives depended on it would make you see the truth in that revelation .

it's all pretence.
those you see at owambe parties are just using it as an escape from the realities of their sufferings. after the party, normal depression & sadness returns. it's all a facade. even the celebrant is not happy - he is already counting the cost of the party even before the party is over.

elampiro:
Opportunist hyna blocking routes. Always in the box scoring from 6 yard regions. Anyone in the 6 yard region will have assists. But when he cant score, the entire team dies.

RVP
11/12 - 30 goals, 14 assists
12/13 - 26 goals, 15 assists

rooney
09/10 - 26 goals, 5 assists
11/12 - 27 goals, 7 assists

as you can see, rooney is the hyena. when he scores plenty of goals, he doesn't provide for others.

elampiro:
Arsenal would have won the league with Rooney's over team play. Not one who wants to score all the goals and block the routes to others.

block the routes to others, you say?

his assists stats when he won the golden boot were in double digits. RVP scores as many as he assists. each time rooney scores past 25 goals, his assists dry up.

crackhaus:
Lmao... we are not fighting

So the article is semi-serious now, is it? Okay o..

FrancisTony seems to think it's gold


*abeg puff puff pass the weed gimme*

that article was in jest.

adam leaving eden to watch man utd & chelsea says it all. there's no other proof needed that a woman is a weaker vessel & she's only a helpmate.

if they are not......we should be praying to God the mother, God the daughter and God the holy spirit. adam got deceived cos he trusted eve. eve got deceived cos she was weak - she trusted a stranger.

elampiro:
BigniNya is mostly on his own. I have to invite him before he appears.

exactly - he's yours to control.
he's a robot!

elampiro:
RVP is just an opportunist. We were positioned to win the 2012/13 title after Scholes had returned to help us from day 1. Our injuries too were far better.

an opportunist?

RVP that couldnt win with Fabregas, Song, Nasri, Walcott, Ashanvi, all supporting him. He left and Arsenal resurrected.

arsenal wouldn't make top 4 if they had rooney all these years.

elampiro:
I can see chrisley024, the number 2 Rooney perpetual hater and Coogar's number 1 ally.

Come on guy.

but we cannot see nyabingo - your cocksücker?

elampiro:
Mancini didnt know what he was saying. He was trying to blame the board for his failure when he knew sack was inevitable.

so why did rooney cry to fergie?
the first time he threw his toy outta the pram, it was because he felt we weren't signing enough quality players.

fergie signed the best player in the league - he scored his first hatrick for us on matchday 3 in a difficult away game at southampton & his goals got us the title. his goals gave us the win @ liverpool, chelsea & city.

had RVP joined city that season, they woulda won the title. he was the difference. rooney was reduced to a bench warmer & i fear ruudie is right by saying maybe putting rooney on the bench again like fergie did is the only way we can ever win the title again.

shrekandfiona:
lol aiming for equal rights and trying to be equal with the opposite sex are two different things o.

are they?
i don't see the difference. without trying to aim for equal rights, this wouldn't be happening.

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elampiro:
You need to take some logic lessons.

If Scholes were around or without too many injuries in 2011/12, we wont even play Europa. We would have won the league in March. City fighting spirit would have died in January

buhahahaha - won in march my foot!
have you ever heard of a team winning the PL with 8 games to go? you talk rubbish for an old man.

RVP was the difference abeg & that was why rooney went to fergie to cry. he couldn't stomach the fact that he had little influence in the victory.

see what mancini said.....

elampiro:
Without RVP we did better in 2011/2012. If Scholes had played the whole of 2011/12, we would have won the league by March ending.

we did better yet we won nothing.

With Scholes around in 2012/13, Chicha /& Welbeck would have delivered the goals in front of Rooney. They were better equipped than they were in 2011/12.

and yet we were dumped out of UCL at the group stage? we even got caned in europa by bilbao. so much for being well-equipped.

* 2011/12 without Van Persie, Man United 89 points/ 89 goals scored/ 33 GA/ GD +56

* 2012/13 with Van Persie, Manchester United 89 pts/ 86 GF/ 43 GA/ 43 GD

Man City lost form towards the end of 2012/13 season and that made it easy for us. RVP added no value what so ever. We would still have won it.

united won the league with 4 games to go in 2012/13 and then started throwing games away as the players couldn't be arsëd anymore. lost to city, chelsea @ OT....drew west brom 5-5. we finished 11 points ahead of our closest rivals.

shrekandfiona:
everything especially the bolded

in other words, lesbians/feminists are not normal women?

elampiro:
Story story, story!!!!!
Coogar, enjoy you fantasy football of Man United team/squad without Rooney. Everyone else who shares your dreams can keep aligning with you every time. As for me, you can never tortoise me.

of course, we need rooney's energy - but we need it more on the bench. he's not pulling trees as a striker & he's useless in the hole. carrick & herrera would lock the midfield down till blind goes back.

so you see, rooney isn't an expert in any role in the squad.

elampiro:
Coogar is a case, I swear. I have never seen where one is so persistent in bringing only negative things to run someone down. Nothing this guy has not brought forward to use to negative-mark Rooney for about three years I have been here.

but those things are not manufactured from a baboon's arsë.....they are facts. do you have any evidence that proves rooney didn't record his career lowest number of touches on sunday?

I remember that goal Ilisted above against Fulham. The game was deadlock at 89th minute and Rooney scored a most intelligent goal from a solo effort in a tight run-in of 2012/13. Yet we get told Rooney just blast the ball he doesnt place it.

RVP saved us more than rooney did in 12/13. had RVP joined city that season, city would have won the title again. there's hardly any away ground RVP didn't score that season. he scored at white hart lane, emirates, etihad, anfield & stamford bridge......he was the difference between us & man city that year

My guy. Take care. I want to log out for a long time.

goodnight, elampawa.
may the gods of your ancestors be with you as you log out.

FrancisTony:
This is not the first time i'm arguing with him and don't expect me to be going back and forth.

No time.

and the only way to explain this is by saying you don't quote rëtards?

come on......

elampiro:
Rooney has destroyed all big clubs in EPL. He has scored most goals against City. He has destroyed them with bicycle kicks, headers etc.He scored a vital goal for an important first leg away lone goal win at Stamford Bridge in only only UCL fixture there.

and why does the golden boot award continue to evade him? destroyers of big clubs usually have something to show for it at the end of the season.

This season he has scored against Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham. In one of our recent matches, Rooney's goal was wrongly cancelled. I think that was against Spurs when he rounded the keeper.

Enough said for now.
I have already checkmated twice. Have a good day.

he didn't play as a striker when he scored these goals. mata has scored against liverpool 3 times & scored against city on sunday. should we play him as a lead striker then?

shrekandfiona:
In as much as I don't agree with the Op, i totally agree with this post. It's very balanced

tell us what you agreed with in his post......

FrancisTony:
Too bad, I don't quote rètards.
I'm not here to impress anyone and I stand with my ideology no matter the useless tag I receive.

this comment is bereft of common sense.
someone posted a comment - at least do a rebuttal by presenting a superior argument instead of resorting to ad hominem sniping.

sheesh!

hehe!

elampiro:
Go and sleep, you have been checkmated. If Rooney had continued playing the number 9 after the QPR game, he would be on 25 goals already.

If we prorate his time in the number even at this run-in Rush back to striking role, Rooney is doing very great. I am not even adding assist.

buhahahaha
after providing about 20 different sports sites including FAPL's official site that says rooney played in the hole, you are still talking about checkmate?

elampiro:
What about touches again. Go and check RVP, COSTA and co, they have recorded lower touches even in games they scored. Rooney was well involved that was what matter. Even 2012/13 I am sure you will have many RVP lower number of touches.
Na wao! Coogar sef! Wetin u see for Rooney side?

the touches explain how much little influence rooney has as a striker in big games. the game passed him by at anfield & it passed him by on sunday. we had the bulk of the possession and we outpassed city & yet, rooney recorded his lowest number of touches in his 13-year football career in the PL.

elampiro:
Even using your logic, you are not helping yourself. You claimed he played 22 minutes upfront against Sunderland and he scored. This is even better than scoring 2 goals in 90 minutes.

Let's end this.

sunderland is not the average measure of strength in the premier league. remember, rooney had done nothing till the 67th minute when falcao won that penalty & brown got sent off. rooney played upfront for 22 mins but it was against 10-men

it's a disaster that he didn't get a hatrick after falcao left. the initial argument was if rooney could have matched aguero/costa if he had been playing as a striker throughout the season & the answer is no. he was the poorest player on the pitch on sunday against man city.

in a game we dominated for most parts, rooney recorded the lowest number of touches in his man utd career. give it up, rooney is piss-poor in the striking role. it's not everyday he would play against a 10-man sunderland at old trafford. against the big sides, rooney is useless.

elampiro:
Even Rooney himself said he played upfront. Not in midfield.


The 29-year-old said, “No, not at all. Everyone knows I've played midfield for the majority of the season but my record shows that I score goals so I'm not worried about that at all.
“I was obviously pleased that the manager played me up front and delighted to get the two goals. I respect his decision wherever he wants to play me. Hopefully I can kick on from here.”
http://www.sportskeeda.com/football/manchester-united-wayne-rooney-defends-under-fire-teammate-angel-di-maria-sunderland-performance

he played upfront for the first time this year in that game after falcao went off

elampiro:
Rooney said he played upfront. The man himself has spoken. Forget all these megedefede stuff you are presenting.

you are still barking.....
even premier league's official website had it as 4-2-3-1. i told you already, you have been bïtch-slapped on this one.

elampiro:
Starts may be facts but not formation charts- remember the ozil failure of OPTA last season.

Now Coolie-guy quoting megedefegede websites.

elampawa, you have been bïtch-slapped on this one.