₦airaland Forum

Kaa4:
Seriake Dickson must be steadfast and remain strong for the party to remain strong during the election period. Otherwise, they should begin digging the party's grave right now.

In all, they have fragmented the votes that should be sufficient to send BAT back to Bourdillion.

Nobody can tell me tinubu is not Peter Obi's Sponsor

tonesky:
Hmmmm...... If this news is true; APC and Presidency will sponsor a splinter group to destroy the party, hijack leadership while their Court is waiting to take directive from Wike on how to approach the case and judgement. One thing is certain, what goes around comes around. Whatever this government and APC is sowing must have a payback period. Time shall tell.

Apc is the one sponsoring them already

Stop capping
This is what tinubu wants
This is his dream scenario

The two are working for the Jagaban then
That should be obvious now

seunmsg:
I love the Obi/Kwakwanso ticket on the platform of NDC. I will be donating one million naira to their campaign if this ticket becomes a reality. Ntooor to Atiku Abubakar and his supporters. Their only hope of getting substantial votes in the south is up in flames

And who do you think this arrangement suits

Whose hands does this play into

Smh
So called opposition that is working for the Jagaban
Unserious set of people

jchioma:
Atiku should rest na! By every fair arrangement, it is only proper that the South completes the unwritten 8 years term.

You are just saying the incumbemt should continue. thats all
There is no way a southerner can remove an incumbent southerner from power

AMINDA:
No one wants Obi to leave the ADC more than Sam Amadi. He wants to contest the Imo gubernatorial elections and is hoping to ride on Obi's wave. Ariku has not hidden his ambition to be president and he hasn't offered anyone the VP slot against their will. He's ready to face anyone in the direct primaries and will absolutely not be stepping for any candidate. Whoever wants to decamp from the ADC is a t liberty to do so.

It's 2015 all over again and a new platform is being built but one region appears to be resistant again. If the Southeast fail to grab a stake in this new party that is painstakingly being built, Seyi Makinde will do so on behalf of the Southwest. If they succeed and begin to reap the dividends, we wouldn't want to hear talks of marginalisation.

Leave that one alone

They are prepping ground for Obi yo leave ADC abi

Ijoba85:
Tinubu ride on, God is with you. Your enemies are fighting your government by taking innocent people's lives , their doomsday is coming. They tried to stop your emergence but couldn't . They plotted your removal through coup , they failed . Now , they are killing innocent Nigerians to rubbish you , they would still fail. Not all Nigerians are gullible , some might be but we are wiser . We know the antics of the enemies of Nigeria. Tinubu , you shall trample on your enemies and you shall overcome

So its the firmds of nigeria that were killing innocent people during GEJ's time abi
Or the people killed then were not innocent

If youvhave received money to spew this trash
God will surely judge you
The judgement of God will locate you

Theunderman:
I got your point, and you called me a slowpoke moreover, Obi should not step down for Atiku and allow a Northern do another 8 years while he wait.
Why do you feel Obi/Kwankwaso can't win, more over Obi will only do a one term Government if he wins, Atiku should rest that's the point I want you to get . He's not the only politician in Nigeria and he missed his chances of being a president today if only he supported GEJ then.
I don't know if you feel Tinubu who won an election without being directly in power will lose this one that's he's a president
Stop using foul words to people because you feel you have a better understanding or opinion

I miss points sometimes too
My head may be in another space entirely and what you are saying may have many possible meanings
It doesnt make one a slowpoke
No one is a mind reader

I didnt in the slightest mean to insult you
It happens to everyone for whatever reason

The numbers dont support an ok alliance
In fact it is tinubu's best bet to remain in power and his minions are at work promoting it online
It will be so easy to demarket to the northerners and you need northern votes to become president even more so that tinubu the incumbent will get votes from the south since he is the incumbent

Modified
To expamtiate further i dont know how old you were in 2003 but obj made sure he had no southerner to split his votes in 2003
He got all the votes in the south and even north cenrtral and at least 25% in the north east and west ans he was the incumbent
That cant happen now
Mathematically impossible

Dennisochampa:
I Do not say what I'm about to say with any authority or evidence but in my opinion and given the current trend we have coming out of that area.... The gun most likely belong to a cultist or a kidnap gang....

The fact that the police killed the courier without proper investigation makes me feel like the police is probably working with the gangs to cover up the incident because what even a mad man would do is..... Ask for the person that sent the guy to get the weapon and trace them to bring down the syndicate


The fact that the boy wasn't given the chance to confess before he was killed makes it seem as if they were trying to cover to something and if the incident wasn't caught on camera, they would have killed him, placed the gun on him and said that he's an armed robber who was killed while exchanging fire with the police

Lol
This is exactly what i was trying to say without being so direct

Maobichek:
I'm not interested in tribal politics, I detest tribalism with everything in me.

I enjoyed Yaradua and GEJ tenure and Buhari was even better compare to the suffering the masses are going through now.

Anyone who will make life easier for the masses is acceptable by me, this is not rhetoric because Nigerians need affordable foodstuffs, electricity, fuel, security etc. I feel so bad because flying is costly and it has affected my work.

If Tinubu really want to help the masses, cost of living will be addressed and not severe hardship currently bedeviling Nigerians now.

Nobody will make life easier for the masses if he thinks the masses cant kick him out

People respond to power and leverage

If a politician knows he can always manipulate his way regardless of how the masses feel then life will never be better for the masses

So its left for the masses to coordinate themselves and be wise

This is why my interest is that this govt must be removed at the polls since the masses have become worse for it but iys left for the masses to be smart and as cunning as the politicians themselves.

My 2 cents

HIGHESTPOPORI:
This propaganda of tinubu facing Buhari is funny,if Buhari didn't want tinubu to be president,he would have stopped him.Buhari didn't have any particular candidate he wanted and even supported tinubu with northern votes after he won the ticket that's why tinubu won in North against Northern candidates.buhari is no more so his northern votes are no longer there

Very very funny
I always laugh anytime i hear it

People are so gullible

Dennisochampa:
I don't care who the victim is... The criminal police should be hanged already....
If u see gun with someone, why not find out who sent him.. Why shoot him in cold blood even when he's unarmed??
What kinda blood thirsty demons do we have in the force these days?
How are they different from bandits and terrorists and cultists that we all are trying so hard to remove from our society?? Gosh!!!!!

That is the key question
Whose gun is it
Who was it intended to be delivwred too

Its convenient all those questions cant be answered now that the suspect is dead

Nothing spiritual about this

Its only mentally lazy people that default to spirituality as an explanation for everything

I stopped using them few months ago
Their internet service is atrocious
Just all of a sudden poor internet network while price of data has increased

Trump is right on this
The reason trump wants to invade cuba is also the reason why putin invaded ukraine

Maobichek:
Good morning, I'm not a member of the "Obidents" so my position is based on what we all know; let's look at the current VP, his 2nd tenure as VP is already shaking and you will believe with me that he is not a placeholder but a strong politician.

Its a good place to start
That means what you guys really want is an igbo presidency not a change of govt

There is really no alternative that can defeat tinubu
PO has to be VP

And if PO is Vp he wont be a normal VP cos he has his own followers too, he isnt sambo or this guy

Modified
Actually there is nothing wrong with an igbo presidency even if thats all you want
But you need to be strategic about it

I think buhari and tinubu had a deal thats why he refused to blatantly aupport osibanjo or anyone during the primaries
Atiku and PO can do that too, why not

ddippset:
Leave long grammar and just answer this simply question;;

Question;

Are you saying that El Rufai, Kwonkwoso, Tambuwal, Bala Mohammed and Atiku Abubakar all actively campaigning and working for Obi in the North wouldn't give him a significant number of votes from the North?
I answered already

Yes or No?

Answer and let's move on.

Maybe
life is not that simple to be reduced to a duality, its a spectrum

Why take that chance if you really want a change of govt

Or what you really want is an igbo presidency


Vote for them i support them is different from vote for me, me that is in front of you talking to you now

And Northerners wont vote for a fresh southerner except Gej and he isnt running

Maobichek:
"Nigerian politics," your analogy is ok but has nothing to do with Nigerian politics; Atiku had high hope that he would take over from OBJ but we all know what happened.

In the history of Nigeria, VPs are always meeted with rejection after their 8 years as VP (Osibanjo is a case study) and it won't change (someone asked, how will one person spend 16 years in Vila while we are over 200 million in this country.)

We all know atiku attempted a palace coup then
And obj punished him by not handing over
Even worse he attempted a palace coup and just when he was about to succeed he backed out, he allowed himself to be persuaded to step down

Unfortunately for the igbos and maybe Nigeria too, the only way an igboman becomes an elected president is by serving as VP first

We all know Osinbande was not a politician but was nominated as a placeholder for the yorubas just to make sure no one else of substance occupies the role to pose a challenge to Tinubs when the time came

Imagine if Amaechi was a VP, look how close he came to winning primaries as a minister

You guys dont know Tinubu

Most of the vocal leadership of the obidient movement are working for tinubu directly

Maobichek:
Atiku will hand over to Obi after 8 years... North will not vote again?

There is something called familiarity and comfort
You have a functioning mental system

Do you sleep with a woman the day you see her
I'm sure you understand the analogy

ddippset:
It doesn't matter whether they are Governors.
The point is they are not bigger than Atiku politically, neither are they richer.

So if you say they can influence votes for Tinubu there is no way Atiku cannot influence votes for Obi.

There is no influence that can be bigger than being on the ballot
Do you know what it means to be governor
The number of people that are ubder your command apart from money
Even atiku doesnt have that sorry

If you are really interedted in changing govts atiku has to be on the ballot
Obi wont get enough northern votes
As simple as that
We need a northerner Frontrunner to gurantee sudficient northern votes ans then decent number of southern votes too wbich obi will bring
Nothing can beat that combo in terms of number
Thays how it always been
Except your real objective is an igbo presidency at all cost

Beautifulday:
Ok

Elrufai son posted Obi kwankwaso poster

Do you know the caption he gave it

Game_over.

He too nah online abi?

He too once called Obidents online too

I dont want to call you a clown buh u behaving like one

Which party does el rufai sperm work for and repping in hor

Beautifulday:
First Atiku will not be on the ballot.

Second, it's Obi/kwankwaso.

I don't know if nairaland is the only place you guys get your gist.

Enter tweeter, stroll reach north section. What you will be seeing is.

You will be OK

Obi/kwankwaso

This night Elrufai son who no dey like anything Obi just tweeted

Obi/kwankwaso

Just go see the meltdown.

You obidient guys did more than that in 2023
You ended up 3rd
All the people posting ok this ok that are paid apc influencers

Actually counter my points see you went online
There is no polling booth online bro

Thats what apc always tell you learners

Beautifulday:
Can you tell us the superiority of Atiku over Obi because without Obi, Atiku would still be a northern aspirant without any national appeal

You need northern votes to become president even to win party primaries sef
You need a way to gurantee sufficient northern votes
The only way to do that is by having atiku on the ballot
He constitutionally cant be VP so...

Like i said before no southeasterner has evwr been even voted president ever before in the entire history of the country and the reason is not difficult to see, igbos dont get northern votes

Also the only time an incumbent president was defeated was by a northerner in Buhari and the incumbent also happened to be a southerner then just like now

These are all facts

ddippset:
Really?

If Kwonkwoso is VP candidate it won't transmit to votes?

If Atiku works for Obi it won't transmit to votes but if Fintiri or Uba Sani works for Tinubu without them contesting for President it will translate to votes for Tinubu?

Keep being delusional and wishful.

Fintiri and uba sani are governors and if you add kwankaso and obi's votes frm the last election together it can not match tinubu's from the last election

Do you need prinate ayodele to tell you there is no comparison between atiku and kwankwankaso
One is clearly superior

We know you work for apc
You cannot deceive any sane person that is older than 18

SixSeven:
You can choose which hill you want to die on. Nigeria's fault lines have always been this way North-South. If you're in doubt, refer to the 79 elections Shagari won and why Westerners have not forgiven Obasanjo for what some call betrayal.

Even just looking at numbers frm the last elwction
The winning combo is atiku/obi not any other wishful fantasy

Beautifulday:
Square 1 so that all the opponents will wait for Obasanjo to pick his VP a few days to election?

How many opponents were there to sstart with

How old were you in 1999

Lol
An election conducted by the military to hand over to a retired general lol

Beautifulday:
Obasanjo was without VP until after governorship election?

Governorship elections held in january while presidential held in february

Beautifulday:
So president doesn't chose VP until after governorship election?

He picked governorship form and dropped out

It was square 1
In 1999 after how many years of military rule

ddippset:
You people should stop being clever by half.

Nobody ever said Obi could do it all alone, nobody can do it all alone.

Even Tinubu cannot do it all alone, if he could what was he chasing 31 governors?

Without his Northern loyalists working for him, Tinubu would fail woefully.

So also Obi needs Atiku and the ADC northerners to win, no one ever said he could do it alone.


Stop the mind games, the person Tinubu and the APC fear most is Peter Obi.

That defeat in Abuja and Lagos alone is more than enough to send shivers down into their soul.

Tinubu knows that if he allows Obi contest he won't get nothing in the SE, SS and NC.
Then he will get maximum three quarters in the SW.

Then if people like El Rufai, Atiku and Kwonkwoso can back Obi, Tinubu is a goner and he knows it.


Stop the mind games, APC's greatest headache is Obi.

You have to be a child

In fact tinubu is paying people to promote obi's candidacy online and offline
No kwankawo or atiku suport can translate to votes as much as them being on the ballot

You are the one being clever by half

Stop promoting something that even the numbers dont back

SixSeven:
Atiku was elected Governor on the platform of the People's Democratic Party (PDP) in January 1999. After the Obasanjo-Atiku ticket won the February 27, 1999, presidential election, Atiku became the Vice President of Nigeria.

I'm the same person who wrote this below and you will see how I feel Atiku's chances are low but to say he has never won and never governed, that's not correct 😐 👇

Aside Obi and Kwankwanso, no other politician has been able to prove themselves ALONE outside the establishment.

Repost👇

Obi has the brightest chance going by the last election result followed by Kwankwanso. I choose these two because they left PDP and did not have the structure of the regular party, which Atiku benefitted from using the PDP platform. You also have to look at the time they had to test themselves between the election primaries and election.

If you want to know what that means, Ribadu ran the Presidential election in 2011 under AC and failed with that party structure. Obi and Kwankwanso have been able to test their popularity as candidates outside the regular establishments and done well. Both had no Governors in their party before contesting and pulled a good number in the last election. Buhari used his CPC to bargain with AC to get the Presidential slot in APC. Buhari could say whether he used ANPP or CPC, he could gather votes. I'm not so sure Atiku can do that. He was a presidential candidate of the Action Congress in the 2007 presidential election coming in third to Umaru Yar'Adua of the PDP and Muhammadu Buhari of the ANPP. Atiku came a distant third in that election with less than 10% of the votes.


Obi and Saraki/Kwankwanso

A Saraki will be a difficult campaign for APC that has defaulted to using tribes against themselves. Saraki ticks two boxes of Yoruba/North Central who have been looking for relevance since Gowon.

Here is the stats of the declared winners since 1999. Mr Bola Ahmed tinubu was not a popular president elect

Here is the brief, factual list of Nigeria’s presidential election winners since 1999, including each winner’s name and the percentage of valid votes they received.

1999 – Olusegun Obasanjo: about 62.78% of valid votes.

2003 – Olusegun Obasanjo: about 61.94% of valid votes.

2007 – Umaru Musa Yar’Adua: about 69.60% of valid votes.

2011 – Goodluck Jonathan: about 58.87% of valid votes.

2015 – Muhammadu Buhari: about 53.96% of valid votes.

2019 – Muhammadu Buhari: about 55.60% of valid votes.

2023 – Bola Ahmed tinubu: about 36.6–37% of valid votes.


A United opposition will defeat tinubu before the election begins. With a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiide margin. There is no need to argue about that.

Fact: Tinubu remains the most unpopular president to have won the Presidential elections. He is the easiest to kick out. Back then, PDP told AC, CPC and opposition parties when they were reigning that to kick us out, you need to unite as opposition. That's what they learned in 2015.


Atiku performance has been poor.
Atiku does not appeal to the youth and going by stats, they are the major voting bloc and will be the only ones to want to come out because whether you like it or not, Tinubu is planning on swimming through voter apathy in 2027. Many of these candidates need to retire, including Obi himself. A child born in 1999 is now 27 and would have gone through his adult life hearing about Tinubu and Atiku. A child born in 1993 when Atiku first contested is now telling his own child that Atiku is the future. How? Let me remind you again

Now that Buhari is dead, he thinks the North will vote for him and all he needs is someone who will help him get Southern votes.

In the three times he appeared on the general ballot for the presidency, Atiku Abubakar received

- 2,637,848 votes (7.47%) in 2007 to finish third,

- 11,262,978 votes (41.22%) in 2019 to finish second, and

- 6,984,520 votes (29.07%) in 2023 to finish second once again.

In the first time the candidate he contested with in 2019 (that gave Atiku his highest vote ever) went to test his popularity in 2023, tell me what was the numbers that candidate got. Obi gave him his best result in 2019 and Obidients today will not be behind Obi himself as Vice. Atiku is repeating the same mistake of the last election, it's not the time of the North. If he forces his way, the likes of Momodu and Okonkwo will happily help him spend his money on a fool's paradise.

So the north will vote for a fresh southerner over tinubu that has 4 years left

What planet are you living on

And not only that but it has never hapoenwd in the history of the whole country for a south easterner to win the majority votes in a presidential election

You have to be objective for once, you wont die

Beautifulday:
Atiku didn't win. He was still a contestant when Obasanjo picked him.

Presidential and governorship election. Which come first?

He emerged governor elect before being made VP
Governorship elections came first