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MaxInDHouse:
After repeating this post seven times:


You now say to someone who hasn't repeated a single post:


Are you sure you have eyes?

Mad MaxinDhouse, don't run away o. Don't try to use Tactics to run. I can see you don't have anything tangible to say. You must come and prove to us that Jesus was lying when he said His Flesh and Blood are represented by the Emblems. You JWS have a different Bible giving you a different message from Jesus, calling him a Liar. Come and show us from the Bible on why the Emblems do not represent his Flesh and Blood.

Mad MaxinDhouse, don't run away o. Don't try to use Tactics to run. I can see you don't have anything tangible to say. You must come and prove to us that Jesus was lying when he said His Flesh and Blood are represented by the Emblems. You JWS have a different Bible giving you a different message from Jesus, calling him a Liar. Come and show us from the Bible on why the Emblems do not represent his Flesh and Blood.

MaxInDHouse:
Default mode again!

Oya, come and tell us exactly what Jesus is saying. Why is his flesh and blood mentioned if they have nothing to do with the Emblems? When Jesus and his disciples ate the Bread and drank the wine, why was he still mentioning his Flesh and Blood if they mean something else? You must show us Bible verses that prove that his Flesh and Blood in that verse mean something else. Don't give us your Demonic Watchtower explanation. Remember, they admitted they are not inspired by the Holy Spirit and will make mistakes in Doctrines. Give us Bible verses! What you are saying is that his flesh and blood are not the Emblems. Therefore, Jesus is lying. And that shows you JWs to be liars.

MaxInDHouse:
Let someone politely approach me not you!

Oya, come and tell us exactly what Jesus is saying. Why is his flesh and blood mentioned if they have nothing to do with the Emblems? When Jesus and his disciples ate the Bread and drank the wine, why was he still mentioning his Flesh and Blood if they mean something else? You must show us Bible verses that prove that his Flesh and Blood in that verse mean something else. Don't give us your Demonic Watchtower explanation. Remember, they admitted they are not inspired by the Holy Spirit and will make mistakes in Doctrines. Give us Bible verses! What you are saying is that his flesh and blood are not the Emblems. Therefore, Jesus is lying. And that shows you JWs to be liars.

Jozzy4:
This isnt a reference to Emblems of the Passover. Do you know the implication of the bolded red ? Did Abraham or Abel ate emblems ?

So, Jesus was lying when he said we must eat his flesh and drink his blood represented by the Emblems? Is that what you are trying to say? You are here mentioning Abraham and Abel. Are you an Israelite under the Mosaic Law? The sacrifice of animals they used to do back then, are you doing It as a Christian? We are not discussing Abraham and Abel. Jesus is who you should follow. He is the way. He is telling you what you are supposed to do to get Everlasting life. Why are you mentioning Abraham? Are you a follower of Abraham? Can you see why people say you JWs are not Christians or followers of Christ?

Oya, come and tell us exactly what Jesus is saying. Why is his flesh and blood mentioned if they have nothing to do with the Emblems? When Jesus and his disciples ate the Bread and drank the wine, why was he still mentioning his Flesh and Blood if they mean something else? You must show us Bible verses that prove that his Flesh and Blood in that verse mean something else. Don't give us your Demonic Watchtower explanation. Remember, they admitted they are not inspired by the Holy Spirit and will make mistakes in Doctrines. Give us Bible verses! What you are saying is that his flesh and blood are not the Emblems. Therefore, Jesus is lying which proves you JWS to be Liars!

MaxInDHouse:
To them that means eating the emblem o!

Oya, come and tell us exactly what Jesus is saying. Why is his flesh and blood mentioned if they have nothing to do with the Emblems? When Jesus and his disciples ate the Bread and drank the wine, why was he still mentioning his Flesh and Blood if they mean something else? You must show us Bible verses that prove that his Flesh and Blood in that verse mean something else. Don't give us your Demonic Watchtower explanation. Remember, they admitted they are not inspired by the Holy Spirit and will make mistakes in Doctrines. Give us Bible verses! What you are saying is that his flesh and blood are not the Emblems. Therefore, Jesus is lying. And that shows you JWs to be liars.

Aemmyjah:
Does this verse refer to the partaking of the emblems or exercising faith in the Ransom?
Your head is filled with sand 😂

You have eyes but you cannot see. Do you know why? Because Watchtower Bible and Tract Society have put you JWS under a strong spiritual spell by their Freemason association. You JWs are under serious Spiritual danger. You read words in the Bible yet you reject them. You see the words of Jesus himself yet you reject them. This is why people out there tell you JWS that you don't believe in Jesus. You don't follow him. You don't take his words seriously. This shows You JWs don't belong to Jesus. You are not in Jesus and Jesus is not in you! The Sheep of Jesus hear his voice and follow him without questioning. You JWs are not Sheep of Jesus.

I have told you before that you are Satanists. Jesus is using his own mouth to tell you about his flesh and blood in that verse. He mentions eating and drinking. Why will He do that? He spelt it out very well so that there is no confusion in his words. The Emblems represent what? Are you trying to tell us that the Emblems do not represent his flesh and blood? Are you telling us that Jesus is Lying in that verse? You JWs don't know anything in that your heads! Simple English you cannot comprehend even if Jesus made it very clear. Oya, come and tell us exactly what Jesus is saying. Why is his flesh and blood mentioned if they have nothing to do with the Emblems? When Jesus and his disciples ate the Bread and drank the wine, why was he still mentioning his Flesh and Blood if they mean something else? You must show us Bible verses that prove that his Flesh and Blood in that verse mean something else. Don't give us your Demonic Watchtower explanation. Remember, they admitted they are not inspired by the Holy Spirit and will make mistakes in Doctrines. Give us Bible verses! What you are trying to say is that His Flesh and Blood are not the Emblems. His flesh and blood mean something else. Show us from the Bible to prove such demonic doctrine.

GothamCities:
Look at these Scriptures:

Jude 1:9

"bYet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee[/b]."

Can you see here that Michael had to CONTEND with Satan, and had no authority to personally rebuke him? He had to say "The Lord rebuke thee Satan ". Michael had no authority to even rebuke Satan himself.

Open your eyes my friend!

See again:

Here's the updated passage:

Daniel 10:13, 20-21

"But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; for I remained there with the kings of Persia... Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come. But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince."

Here In verse 20, the angelic messenger says he will return to fight alongside Michael against the prince of Persia. Meaning, he expected to meet Michael still fighting the king of Persia and would therefore support Michael against the prince Persia. Does this look like the Mighty Jesus to you?

Now, see again and compare the power of this angel with that of Michael:

Revelation 20:1-3

"And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season."

In this passage, an angel descends from heaven, binds Satan with a great chain without any resistance, and in the blink of an eye casts him into the bottomless pit, where he remains for 1,000 years. No fighting, no contention. At this time, the earth already became Satan's domain because he was already evicted from the heavenlies. The earth in trouble. Satan came with all his might, strength and fury, yet an angel caught him like a fowl without the support of any other angel. No single resistance. He just picked him and threw him into prison. Do you think this particular Angel is mightier than Jesus whom you call angel Michael? Think my friend and stop being deceived.

This is what the scriptures say after Satan was defeated and cast out of the heavenly realms:

Revelation 12:12 :

"Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."

He was not cast out with broken bones and a dilapidated body. His strength and fury remained with him, yet an angel simply picked him up without any resistance. Just compare Michael with thia Angel, and you'll see clearly that Jesus is not Michael.

All these your explanations from the Bible cannot be understood by a JW. JWs have had their brains washed with Bleach. The most basic Biblical understanding is lacking in that Cult because their leaders do not operate with the Holy Spirit which they have admitted to. The Cult was specifically designed to promote Lies and Instill brainwashing techniques on the members. There is also a Spiritual viel covering the eyes of JWs such that when you show them Bible verses, they can't see what you are seeing. It is that serious because their Leaders get their inspiration from Fallen Angels. These verses you posted are very simple to understand when you have the Holy Spirit. But since Watchtower Leaders prefer Human understanding with many Errors they brand as New Light, A JW will completely ignore these verses and stick to the brainwashed points from their Freemason Governing Body.

StillDtruth:
I believe God is now dropping blows on fake religions like Jws and Catholics.

Yes. Any religion that is not backed by God and Jesus will Fail. The Internet is just speeding things up. A revival is Coming. The JW Religion is dying. The Leaders are aware of this but the JWs are still ignorant thinking all is well.

StillDtruth:
Typical of devils aka Jws, atheists and Muslims.

They want rights but they don't want to give rights.

The want Mercy but they can't extend such Mercy!

Hypocrisy! You see these JWS? This is how different governments will start shining their torchlight on them when they notice the damage their doctrines do to people. The Denmark government is also shining their torch on them too. JWS will come out and say they are being persecuted because they are the One True Religion forgetting that Christians are persecuted for being Followers of Christ, Not over some stupid archaic doctrine with no basis in the Bible that destroy Families and go against Fundamental Human Rights. They also forget that they themselves persecute their members who choose to disagree with their leadership and doctrines and Leave the Cult. Good luck to them as they try to justify their breaking of the Laws of the Land.

StillDtruth:
Na true oo.
That would mean one old JW Nairalander does not want us to know that he is the same devil coming to do Satan's work.

Exactly. The topic of your thread is actually Correct. Satan cannot stand in the presence of Jesus. Former Satanists who are now Christians have said that they have observed How Satan runs away with a speed of light when Jesus came to deliver them and rescue them from their Coven when they called upon his name. There is no such thing as Satan and Jesus fighting. Satan is too small for Jesus. From several Testimonies I have read and watched, Satan and his Demons flee at the sight of Jesus because Of Who he is, because of the Authority he has. They know it means Death for them. This proves that Jesus Can Never Be Angel Michael. It is such a shame that JWs don't know Jesus whereas Satan himself understands who Jesus Truly is! All because of their Freemason Governing Body who are Satanists giving Jesus a different identity so that JWs do not have a relationship with him same way they don't have. Reason why they are taught that Jesus is Not their Mediator.

I think you are now seeing JWS for what they truly are. They are not Peace loving as how they like to paint themselves when they go to preach. At least from what you have been seeing from the JW miscreants that have been arguing with you for weeks. The person has another moniker you already know about. It is even possible the person is amongst these JWs around you. The person went to open a new Nairaland account today today to threaten you to make you back down because you have shown the foolishness of their doctrines and how they sound to Sane people. Many people are already aware of how they act when they are exposed and have their doctrines trashed in the dust bin. It is good the person helped to reveal who they are by his threats. This way, the public can testify of their hypocrisy. That's how Cults operate. They threaten you When you show them that you cannot be brainwashed same way They were threatening people to join them back in the day with the belief that the world is going to end in 1975. They don't like it when you know the Bible very well and can use it to prove them wrong. JWs are Never wrong. Only the rest of Christianity are wrong and are for Satan.

Once again, you cannot find this type of information on the JW website.

So. Jehovah's Witnesses want Religious Freedom and are ready to liaise with Politicians to sway them to give them that right but They don't want their members to have such right when they decide to leave the Cult? Interesting. They want Mercy but they can't extend such Mercy. Their doctrines are against the Constitution of the Country. Against Fundamental Human Rights.

Now, they want JWs to write letters to Politicians to speak against the Deregistration. Have they forgotten so soon how it turned out for them when they were asked to write to Putin in Russia?

In the congregations of the Religious Society of Jehovah's Witnesses (NSSJ), a Notice was read in recent days, which was sent out by the Czech leadership of this society (the so-called branch) on December 18, 2024. [1] According to it

"The branch has learned about steps being taken by the separate department of churches and religious societies of the Ministry of Culture of the Czech Republic, which could lead to the cancellation of the registration of our legal entity, NSSJ."

According to the Notice, witnesses are threatened that the Ministry will act pursuant to the provisions of Section 22 of Act 3/2002 Coll., [2] which states under letter c) that

“(1) The Ministry shall initiate proceedings to cancel the registration of a church and a religious society, … c) if a registered church and a religious society … carries out activities in violation of Section 3 letter a), Section 5 or Section 27 paragraph 5, …”

The ministry considers the preaching and application of two doctrines as possible activities of Jehovah's Witnesses in violation of this law. The announcement states this in the following sentence:

“The government states that it has reservations about several of our teachings, including (1) the application of the Bible principle of abstaining from … blood (Acts 15:28, 29) in cases where parents make decisions regarding minor children, and (2) the application of the Bible principle of limiting social contact with those who have been disfellowshipped or who have disassociated themselves from the congregation. (1 Cor. 5:11)”

The words Notification refer to Section 5 of this Act, which in the part under letter e) states:

A church or religious society whose teachings or activities pursue a violation of the law or the achievement of some goal in an unlawful manner may not be established and operate, especially if … e) it restricts the personal freedom of persons, especially by using psychological or physical pressure to create a dependency that leads to physical, psychological or economic harm to these persons or their family members, to damage their social ties, including limiting the psychological development of minors or limiting their right to education, or prevents minors from receiving health care appropriate to their health needs , …“

The Religious Information Service highlighted the parts that are likely to be discussed in the negotiations of the Ministry of Culture of the Czech Republic .

The second part of the Announcement contains two pleas. The first of them calls for

"any publisher in the Czech Republic who wishes to do so, to consider sending respectful letters containing a complaint against the threat of cancellation of the NSSJ registration, to the following state representatives: (1) the President of the Czech Republic, (2) the Prime Minister, (3) the Minister of Culture, (4) the Minister of Justice, (5) the Minister of Foreign Affairs, and (6) the separate Department of Churches and Religious Societies of the Ministry of Culture."

In the second request, the branch calls on members to pray.

Link to the article below. Use Google Chrome to access and translate to English.


https://info.dingir.cz/2024/12/cesti-svedkove-jehovovi-se-obavaji-zruseni-registrace/

Former members of Jehovah's Witnesses are gathering documents to sue the religious organization in Brazil, accusing it of practices such as covering up cases of pedophilia, pressuring people to avoid higher education, public humiliation and what they call "inducing suicide" — referring to the prohibition of blood transfusions, even in life-threatening situations. The lawsuit, which could include up to 28 dissidents, seeks compensation for moral damages. The information was released in a report by UOL.

Among the main complaints is the practice of ostracism, which forces believers to cut ties with family and friends who leave the religion. This policy led Norway to cancel the church's registration in the country in 2021, a fact that inspired Brazilian dissidents to seek similar measures here. "It's as if I had been buried alive," says Ester Lopes Bueno, 42, who has not spoken to her family since leaving the church in 2019.

Reports of sexual abuse are also common among former members. Psychologist Lucas Vasconcelos, 24, claims he was molested at age 15 by a church leader who made him drunk until he lost consciousness. When he woke up, he says he found marks of abuse on his body. Journalism student Mirela Costa, 25, reports having been sexually abused at ages 10 and 12 by two church members and says she was not treated as a victim. "The second time, they asked me if I wasn't in love with the abuser," she says.

The organization, in turn, denies the accusations. In a statement, it stated that it considers sexual abuse "a malicious and repugnant act" and that it complies with the law by reporting cases to the authorities. Regarding ostracism, it argues that "followers should limit contact with the person who is removed from the congregation." Regarding the prohibition of blood transfusions, spokesman Laércio Ninelli highlighted that the practice is based on "biblical instruction" and has been recognized as a right by the Supreme Federal Court (STF).

Another point of conflict is the devaluation of higher education. The organization discourages believers from attending college, claiming that this could expose them to "moral and spiritual dangers." Lara Prado, 27, who left the church at 23, regrets not having followed her dream of studying history or journalism. "I lost everyone I knew. And, most of all, I lost my mother. She is alive, but she treats me as if I were dead," she says.

The lawsuit is also expected to address the ban on blood transfusions, which the dissidents call "inducing suicide." Jacira Araújo, 72, showed a notarized document in which she renounces the procedure. "I have legalized my death in a notarized document. This is a sacrifice of life," she said. Ninelli countered, stating that refusing a transfusion is a guaranteed right and that the church does not induce suicide.

The organization maintains its position, stating that the accusations come from "people making false and slanderous statements." Meanwhile, former members remain mobilized, seeking justice and reparations for the impacts they claim to have suffered.

Link to the article below. Use Google Chrome to access and translate the article.

https://www.correio24horas.com.br/brasil/ex-testemunhas-de-jeova-preparam-acao-judicial-contra-a-organizacao-religiosa-no-brasil-0225

You can never find this News in JW.org.

StillDtruth:
Yippee! 😁😁😁
Devil don vex and is coming to get me. 😁😁😁

So, the-evil, let's WAR, !! 😁😁😁

That's a new nairaland account that was just created today you're replying to.

This is another testimony from an ExJW on reasons why she left JWs and gave her life to Jesus. Just like the Couple in the Op, She also had experiences with the Holy Spirit while she was a JW. Her escape from JW all started from The Holy Spirit which led her to reading the Bible alone without Watchtower publications. She started to see things that were not right with JW Doctrines. It was her meeting with a JW Man who wanted to date her that led her to make the final decision to Disassociate from JW. Because of this, her family shunned her.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBM_s1hHhzs?si=DVUJVHVDc_5d_Ms1

Sand2022:
I enjoyed the interview. One of the best I've watched. I love it people come out of the group, they are still active in the work of the Lord.

Exactly. I love their testimony as well. There are many others like them that left JW and now follow Jesus that I have watched but I was led to post this one. I learnt a few things from them and also from other Christians and realised that some of their experiences with the Holy Spirit, I also had them when I was a JW and still have them now but because the JW Indoctrination makes you very ignorant and Blind to these things coupled with the fact that Watchtower does not teach these things, you wouldn't know and understand what you are experiencing. You will just ignore them. I have learnt that if Jesus comes for you, no matter the religion you find yourself, he will pull you out of there if he doesn't want you there because He doesn't do Religion. He does Relationships.

I tagged you to this video to also show you another testimony from another Exbethelite who confirmed the presence of the Occult at Bethel, in his words Ritualistic Witchcraft. Remember what he said in this video? Everything he said, I have told you before. He didn't mention any names but you already know what he meant. Too many people from different countries saying the same thing about something or someone due to their experiences cannot be wrong. Follow his advice and do your findings on the things he mentioned.

Gabrielshow24:
They will surely give you a defense🤤.

Which defense? Defense that will make you loose large amounts of Brain cells? No please. I don't want those vagabonds polluting my thread. This thread is for Jehovah's Witnesses that are questioning their Doctrines with their Critical thinking skills that God gave them and have been nursing feelings that something is not right with the Cult. Not for brainless buffoons.This thread is for Jehovah's Witnesses that want to Follow Jesus Christ. Those ones you mentioned worship their Freemason Governing body.

Emusan:
Only when they are outside they use to display that their fake angelic attitude and love

You dey mind them. It is good that people outside already know what they are. You cannot pretend for long. That's just how Life works. When you think people are not watching you, you will get comfortable and your True colours will show like Smoke for the world to see. The guy in the video said they used to preach to them at Bethel about how Drunkenness is a sin and it is not allowed there yet from lowest Bethelite to the Governing body members, they are all drunkards. Lol. Hypocrisy is not good. Rutherford was also a Drunkard. Now the question is, what is making them drink so much? Are they that frustrated over there drinking away their sorrows? That place must be very Toxic.

I wish the guy went deep into the Rituals he saw there but I understand why he didn't.

This is an interview made by an Anointed ExJW interviewing a Couple who are also Anointed. They give their testimony as to how they joined Jehovah's Witnesses, how they discovered they are Anointed and were partaking of the Bread and the Wine. The Man is also an Ex Bethelite who witnessed some events not fitting for a Holy Place they call Bethel Headquarters in the U.S.

He says while he was at Bethel, he witnessed widespread Drunkenness amongst Bethelites especially amongst the JW Leaders they call Governing body and other members of the Watchtower Hierarchy. He also said he saw Prostitution and Witchcraft. He didn't want to delve into the Witchcraft thing because he didn't want the interviewer's Youtube channel to get flagged or banned. So, he said to have a clue about this topic, do research on JW Founder Charles Taze Russell, his background and his Occultic lineage, research on where JWs used to meet before they had Kingdom Halls and also do research on the specific Fraternity that Watchtower is affiliated with.

He and his wife give their testimony as to how they started having doubts and made the final decision to Leave JW.

This video is for Jehovah's Witnesses who are seriously doubting the JW organisation, who are JW PIMOs and who have an interest in the "Anointed" topic.

This video is also proof that there are Jehovah's Witnesses who do not believe in the JW Doctrines and have been worshipping as they see fit according to the Bible and not according to the Governing body rules. The truth is, if you decide to only listen to the Bible, You Must Leave JW eventually because Jesus who sets us Free must free you from the shackles of Watchtower.

cc: Acholardey
Oteneaaron
Sand2022



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaiAb8g_50k?si=kwieS3MYyyChCK3A

Sand2022:
You might be right, I just need strong proof. As you said, they didn't shout support UN from the roof top, nor write the elders telling them to support them. Although some articles supported the UN in a coded way. So it's possible that they could do be occultic but never promote it in the meetings.

But what will be the use of such occultic organization when they don't instruct the members either directly or indirectly to join the occult.but they rather discourage it. So I would say, if it is true, only the leaders are part of that just as no JWs member is told to seek political office, not even in UN. So the leaders don't lead by example. They do what they tell their member not to do. That can only be the conclusion.

There is another YouTube channel you can check out about this topic. Start with the video below. The Owner of this channel created videos in Parts to show Freemasonry in JW. This video is Part 1. When you are done, go to her channel to view the other parts. The Next part may show up after you are done with this one. The videos are not long so you can follow each of them easily. She is the only one that has done a deep dive into this subject by showing Signs, Symbols and Languages shared by JW and Freemasons.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHB2nsMr5t4?si=pPMzCBC7KBjHw0VK


Also, the video about an Elder trying to remove his Masonic ring that I mentioned earlier is below. Someone else has made a copy of it and posted It.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8A3buJy5qE?si=sWyd2uUZb7jKIjYC

Sand2022:
You might be right, I just need strong proof. As you said, they didn't shout support UN from the roof top, nor write the elders telling them to support them. Although some articles supported the UN in a coded way. So it's possible that they could do be occultic but never promote it in the meetings.

But what will be the use of such occultic organization when they don't instruct the members either directly or indirectly to join the occult.but they rather discourage it. So I would say, if it is true, only the leaders are part of that just as no JWs member is told to seek political office, not even in UN. So the leaders don't lead by example. They do what they tell their member not to do. That can only be the conclusion.

You need strong proof yet Strong proof is looking back at you. You are a very new PIMO. Yes. They preach against something in JW Meetings and publications but do the opposite in secret. You need to understand this mindset they have in order to understand Satan and make sense of what you are going to see about them. A lot of things Watchtower does, do not make sense to someone who is ignorant and someone who is not very vast in knowledge of how Satan's Kingdom is run. As Christians, we are not supposed to be Ignorant at all about the ways of Satan since he has penetrated Christianity! This is why the Bible says My people perish due to Lack of Knowledge. The people we are talking about are Luciferians who believe Good and Evil can Coexist. Go to Oteneaaron's thread I posted earlier. Start from there. Go to YouTube. There are tons of videos linking Jehovah's Witnesses to Freemasonry by the use of Occultic symbols, sharing the same belief system, using the same Language or terminologies, e.t.c . You need to drop whatever JW Indoctrination is left in you to understand what you are going to see there. Truth will not come to you. You must go and find it.

And No. The Leaders are not the only members of the occult. Your fellow Normal JWS attending Kingdom Halls, Assemblies/Conventions with you can also be members of the Occult. You just don't know what you have been looking at. Google Jehovah's Witnesses and Child Sexual abuse. Look at the JW Men they arrest. Do they look like your governing body to you? No. They are the same JWs attending the same meetings with you only in a different country. They are members of these Cults which is why they are the perpetrators of Sexually abusing Children. There was a News story in the U.S of one Elder who was arrested. The victims revealed that this Elder was a member of a Secret society. The Elder even threatened them by claiming that he is untouchable so if they reported him, no one will do anything to him and that was how he kept doing what he was doing for over 10 years. The Man even resembles Stephen Lett. The victims also said that He along with some other JWs in their congregation would gather in an underground basement and perform rituals, Sexually abuse them and torture them. I posted this story in Oteneaaron's thread. This is why I am directing you there. There are lots of information you cannot ignore about the Occult in JW In that thread.

Ask yourself, Why is It that Watchtower has a database of names of JW Pedophiles in their Headquarters and when the Authorities asked for this database, they refused to hand it over? Are they scared of these names linking to all the members in Watchtower Hierarchy? Why are they reluctant to corporate with the authorities to the point that sometimes The Police have to go to a Kingdom Hall and ransack the place? Why is it that in some cases, Victims report that they were threatened with Disfellowshipping if they report to the authorities? Why is It that they were discouraged from doing so? Ask yourself why Watchtower along with The Catholic Church are fighting presently in Court to make sure that confessions of a Pedophile are kept Secret? Why are they fighting so hard to protect Pedophiles?
When you think about their actions and add 1+1 to give 2, you will see a pattern. If Watchtower is not the Head Perpetrator of Child Sexual Abuse, they will not go through such great lengths to protect Pedophiles and their Database.

I have more things to tell you but I believe you should just digest this aspect of Watchtower first because as you keep investigating them, you will find that it keeps getting worse. There are other aspects of Watchtower you seem not to be aware of because you are New.

Sand2022:
From which where did she start talking about Jehovah's witnesses.?

Personally I would need strong, I mean strong proof that Jehovah's witnesses are occultic as an organization. I am not talking about some individuals there, but as an organization. I served as an elder there for years, I didn't see any letter or direction from any circuit overseer approving or promoting occultic practices. I think for someone like me, I will need not just a story, but a verifiable evidence to believe it like the UN membership.

Some individuals, even from the headquarters might get into this occultism, but I don't see that ever promoted or supported as an organization.

I can believe they are more watchtower corporation oriented than any occultism.

I want to add something I didn't mention earlier. You found out that Watchtower was part of the U.N right? What did they call the U.N? Is it not the Wild Beast? Okay. What is the role of the Wild Beast? The Wild Beast is an arm of Satan's Kingdom, doing his bidding and implementing his agendas upon the whole world right? To be a member of the U.N, you also need to promote their agenda. Watchtower for many years now do not talk ill about the U.N. Instead, they quote their articles in their Publications. They even take Gilead students for sight seeing To the U.N. Gilead students have revealed this. To also be a member of the U.N which is an arm of Satan, you must be affiliated with Satanic Cults. That's the part unknown to most people who don't understand the role of the U.N. Since you are part of the Wild Beast, you will do the bidding of Satan but you won't do it in public else the deception of Satan upon the world through these organisations will not work. This is how Secrecy is implemented in all Satanic Cults. A show off of a Pious religious image is very important to Satan. People who have worked with Satan will tell you this. Deception cannot work when there is no Secrecy. So, it doesn't matter what a Religion preaches to it's members regarding Spiritism or the Occult. Contradiction is a Trait of Watchtower. All of that is just for Image purposes to deceive the gullible to think they have Morals and have an appearance of Holiness/One True Religion. What they do behind closed doors when no one is looking, except God and Jesus, is what matters. That's why the Hypocrisy of Watchtower is very high. Do as I say but not as I do. Modern day Pharisees! This is why Jesus said There is nothing that has been hidden that will not be exposed. Just like Smoke rising up for all to see, is the way Child Sexual Abuse is being exposed in JW as a sign of Occultism.

You finding out about Watchtower being part of the U.N is supposed to give you a clue of their affiliations with the Occult because of what the U.N stands for. Their Billionaire status is supposed to make you pause and ask yourself how they achieved it since they love to preach to JWs about living a simple life. It is either you are for Satan's Kingdom or you are against it. There are reports of Child Sexual abuse happening in the U.N, are you aware about this? Research it. Anywhere Child Sexual abuse and Human Trafficking exist, Satan dwells and is in charge there. All organisations and Religions having Cases of these activities are for Satan. In order to have the Billionaire status Watchtower has, you must be part of these Cults engaging in the same underground Satanic activities they all engage in. It is a Must else you won't have Power over people and Wealth from Satan himself.

Sand2022:
From which where did she start talking about Jehovah's witnesses.?

Personally I would need strong, I mean strong proof that Jehovah's witnesses are occultic as an organization. I am not talking about some individuals there, but as an organization. I served as an elder there for years, I didn't see any letter or direction from any circuit overseer approving or promoting occultic practices. I think for someone like me, I will need not just a story, but a verifiable evidence to believe it like the UN membership.

Some individuals, even from the headquarters might get into this occultism, but I don't see that ever promoted or supported as an organization.

I can believe they are more watchtower corporation oriented than any occultism.

She starts talking about JWs from Timestamp 18:56.

There are sure ways to know the presence of Occultism in an organisation. But first, you need to understand how secretive organisations operate. Secrecy is their number one Tenet. Do you know anything about Freemasonry and how it operates specifically from the higher levels? If you understand how it operates, you will understand Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. Freemasonry is a Cult within a Cult. Watchtower is the same, meaning, The Lower level members do not know what the High level members know and the image of the Cult the lower level members have in mind is very different from what the High level members have. Same thing with the Catholic church and other Satanic Cults. Same thing with the Illuminati. Knowledge is based on Levels and Rank. Remember what the Bible says about Satan. Satan will never appear to anyone he wants to Deceive as a Devil. He will transform himself as an Angel of Light. The Bible also says His followers also operate in the same manner. Jesus also described them as Wolves in Sheep clothing.

I came across a video from a Freemason Jehovah's Witness who was in that Audio recording I tagged you in. Her name is Veronica. Yes. There are Jehovah's Witnesses who are Freemasons but are known to JWS as The Anointed Class. Remember, they never explain to JWs how they know they are Anointed. They just say They just Know. If you don't know or you are asking, it means you are not Anointed. Very flimsy explanation. The real reason is that how they know they are Anointed is supposed to be a Secret because the reason is tied to the Occult. Occult means Hidden Knowledge.

They are not just Masons, they are also members of Skull and Bones, Illuminati, and Druid and Celts. Very dangerous Cults. I got to know this by watching different testimonies from Victims of Child Sex Trafficking and Satanic Ritual Abuse.
Veronica explained everything and created a video to prove the existence of Freemasonry in JW. I have posted this video in a couple of threads in Nairaland but you can't find it anymore as her YouTube channel is gone. Many EXJWs and a lot of Nairalanders here and EXJWs in other forums have seen that video.

In the video, she wore her Freemason Necklace so that any Mason who sees it will give her a "Special Masonic handshake", recognising the authority in the necklace since her necklace places her in a higher rank in the Masonic Cult. She went into a fast food joint with her phone videoing the whole thing. She approached a group of Elderly Jehovah's Witnesses who she identified as Freemasons. They had just finished Field service. One of the Sisters immediately stood up to give her a masonic handshake although her phone didn't pick that up. The Sister said to her "Let me look you in the eye" which is a Masonic phrase to greet themselves. She started to talk freely about their masonic beliefs with them and none of them reacted as you would expect them to if they were normal JWs. A normal JW would be shocked at what she is saying. But these ones were agreeing with her although they started out by trying to deny what she was saying because they were in Public. When she said " We masons believe Jehovah is the Masonic name for Lucifer but the rest of the JWS don't know that", They all agreed with her. She was mentioning these things in the video for viewers like us to understand what they believe, to confirm their existence in JW and to show us their reaction to what she is saying. They were asking her why she left The Truth and she said she didn't like how the Governing body were running things. They asked her if she was disfellowshiped and she said they can't do that to her as she is immune to JW rules.

While she was saying these things, one of the Brothers there started flashing his Masonic ring at her To signal to her to shut up because she is beginning to say too much in public as the things she is saying are only meant for the Freemasons only!

After she was done with them and left the place, she explained everything that was going on during her interaction with them.

The same lady made another video to prove their existence in JW. This time, she decided to approach two JW brothers who were on Field on Cart Witnessing. She recognised one of them to be a Freemason. So, she approached them and started talking about Freemasonry in JW. She talked about how the Governing body are members of this Cult and you can know this by watching out for the rings they wear on their right hands during a broadcast. On hearing this, The Freemason Brother started trying to remove his Masonic ring. He was pulling the ring with all his might. The lady specifically targeted her phone on the Man's hands as he was trying to remove it. But his finger was too fat to do so.

If I had not seen these two videos, watched testimonies from victims and read Old JW Publications, I wouldn't have believed the testimonies in that Audio and the testimony of this Ugandan Lady. Veronica 's YouTube channel was a wealth of Information about Freemasons in JW. These videos are perfect evidence for you to see for yourself but It is a pity Watchtower had her channel removed. She exposed how Watchtower came to be, how the Anointed are really selected and initiated, their shares in the Watchtower Corporation and how they make money, et.c. She exposed a lot that can crumble Watchtower to the ground. I wished I had made screen recordings or downloaded them but some of them are over 1 hour long.

My advice, Do some research on Freemasonry. Not the Sanitised version where they portray themselves to be Philanthropic. Investigate the higher levels of Freemasonry specifically the 33rd Degree. Investigate their signs and Symbols they use to show their membership and allegiance to Satan. Investigate the masonic symbols Watchtower used back in the day in their publications. Are you aware that International Bible Students met in Masonic Lodges back then and even to this day? Go to YouTube and TikTok. Investigate how Masons operate and their initiation process. Investigate the gods they worship and how they worship. Child Sexual Abuse is one of their Modes of worship. Without it, their gods and the many entities they worship cannot be pleased. This is one sure way to know the existence of The Occult in an organisation. Child Sexual Abuse. If you hear allegations/reports of Child Sexual Abuse, Child Sex Trafficking, Human Trafficking and Satanic Ritual Abuse in any organisation, you are looking at a Satanic Organisation.


Older JW publications written during the time of Rutherford revealed the Occultism in Watchtower. There are certain statements made by Rutherford that were Occultic. There is a testimony from an ExJW who was working with Rutherford. He wrote a book about how He was possessed by Demons in order to write JW Publications. There are certain JW Doctrines that have been laced with Occultism. One of them is The 1914 belief. That year was calculated as a result of an Occultic teaching known as Numerology.

Another Occultic belief in JW is that Abbaddon is Jesus Christ. That is an Illuminati Doctrine.

Also, there is a book by a Catholic Priest that Watchtower was using as a Reference. The book is Communication with the Spirit Realm. This Priest was mentioning how a Demon was helping him to translate his own version of the Bible from which Watchtower got their own translation of John 1: 1. The demon was teaching him certain beliefs and lo and behold, the beliefs are taught by JWs, thus, telling you where JWs get their beliefs from which also confirms the testimonies I tagged you in.

You have a lot of research to do Sand2022.
This Life is very deep. What you see in Life is just the Sanitised version. There is a adeeper part of life that governs the Sanitised version. Do some research then come back and listen to that Audio and this testimony again, this time, with Knowledge and understanding. If you want to have a wealth of info about Freemasonry in JW, Go to Oteneaaron's thread https://www.nairaland.com/7000070/jehovahs-witnesses-tied-freemasons
I posted Veronica's videos and many sources of info there to reveal Freemasonry and Occultism in JW.
In the first page, you will see a Governing body member wearing a Masonic Ring. I have personally seen Helpers to the Governing body wearing It as well in broadcasts. The thread is long but has a lot of info on this. When that video circulated, Watchtower went to change the video of that broadcast so that he will not be shown wearing the ring But another ring. Lol. They do this all the time when certain exposures are made about them.

This is the side of Watchtower that is well hidden from the Public. It took members of these Cults who were victims that left the organisation to expose this hidden part of Watchtower. This part of Watchtower will help you understand why their Doctrines are far away from the Bible and will help you to know their True intentions with their members. It will also help you to know Your destination when you choose to remain with them.

So Sand2022, Do not expect a video evidence of these Rituals being performed by these Freemason JWs. You are never going to see It. The last time something like this happened, Watchtower made sure YouTube removed the video and banned the poster. An ExJW revealed that there is a Video that contains Governing body members engaging in a Ritual where they were consuming Blood from an animal. He said that video is in the Dark Web. His viewers didn't believe him. So, He said if they want to see the Video, they should go to the Dark Web and find it. Some of his viewers went, watched It and got back to him to confirm that they saw it.

No right thinking Occultic member will allow such to be exposed as these acts are always done in Secret away from the Public usually in Underground tunnels which Watchtower has and in isolated places. Beware of any organisation that has underground tunnels. Remember P Diddy and all that was exposed about him, the Satanic Rituals he performed and his underground tunnels. The only evidence you will get is Reports of Child Sexual Abuse, Child Sex Trafficking, Human trafficking and Satanic Ritual Abuse in the media or online and also Testimonies from Victims online. There are Court documents that reveal the Satanic Side of JWs in some cases of Child sexual abuse. The perpetrators of these Satanic Activities are members of these Cults. Do your research.

Sand2022:
Yes, not all.

Okay. I know it is long. Take your time with It. It is a Mixture of Two Audios and Two Videos from an Ex Bethelite. If you want something shorter, the video below is another testimony from Uganda confirming the Audios and Videos in case you haven't seen it. If you want some context to understand the lady's background, you can start from the beginning but if you want to go straight to where she mentioned JW, You can start from Timestamp 18:56. Pay attention to what she is describing, the info she is giving, what her husband is asking her and replying her. Bear in mind that she is not familiar with JW terminologies.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRAWYeOobTM?si=zPBugKaFQG7lCQTo

Janosky:
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Baseless allegations.
Oga,in which hospital?
In which city?
Where?

The evil agenda & propaganda of your WAILING WAILERS can not prevail.



Courz you sacrifice your brain to IBERIBEISM.

ALL medications are temporary solutions for health challenges.
When you have malaria you must go back to the medications you have been using before.
If you get liver, can you swear that you never used any medication in 2024?




Courz Ozuo pro max.
Courz You sacrifice your brain to IBERIBEISM.

Would HEMOPURE be sold or given to Courz a NOVICE & IBERIBEIST without any known medical professional training and expertise?

Courz MUMU WAILER inseparable from IBERIBEISM.
What a dunce!!!

Mumu Janosky with your maggot infested brain, why did you remove this part below from your earlier screenshot that shows that Hemopure is not a perfect substitute for Blood? Why did you remove it? Look at the screenshot! It even says It is risky and mentioned all the risks involved. You are blind to that abi? Your fellow JW Sister died even after being given Hemopure. She reacted badly to it and Died! Why? Is that not proving the below statement to be true? When something is a Temporary solution as the screenshot puts it, is that a perfect solution? Your screenshot mentioned that Hemopure has not yet being approved by the FDA in the U.S. It is still undergoing Clinical trials. Do you know what that means? I don't think you do since you reason like an Illiterate that Watchtower wants you to be with their No University education Doctrine.

I have posted the Disadvantages of Alternatives to Blood that your Freemason Governing body refused to let you JWs know about. If you like, don't go and take Blood Transfusion like your Fellow smart JWs are doing. Look at them surviving and testifying to it like the Op. You will die like Fowl as Sacrifice to Satan to Boost Watchtower's Billionaire status. I have asked you JWs why you all still die when Alternatives are available, you run away. You JWs still dying is proof your Alternatives don't work! So, your screenshots are useless. We want to see real life experiences from numerous JWS but all we get are Stories of Deaths.

Your No Blood Transfusion Doctrine has put your Cult in trouble with the Czech Republic Government Authorities. You JWS are at the risk of being deregistered again over there just like in Norway for No Blood and Limiting of Social contact with disfellowshiped and dissociated people. Not only that, Watchtower will also lose all their properties Kingdom halls, Assembly Halls and Bethel branches there. Your Governing body have ordered your members to write letters to the Politicians there to change their mind after lying to them that you don't have such Doctrine. It is this same writing letters to Politicians that made Russia ban you people. You people should write to them so that they can ban you

Janosky:
Courz read the screenshot evidence by Cleveland Clinic:
"HEMOPURE save the life of a patient with Severe hemorrhage."

Courz You sacrifice your brain to IBERIBEISM.

Ozuo pro max.
Evil soul.

Mumu Janosky with your maggot infested brain, why did you remove this part below from your earlier screenshot that shows that Hemopure is not a perfect substitute for Blood? Why did you remove it? Look at the screenshot! It even says It is risky! and mentioned all the risks involved. You are blind to that abi? Your fellow JW Sister died even after being given Hemopure. She reacted badly to it and Died! Why? Is that not proving the below statement to be true? When something is a Temporary solution as the screenshot puts it, is that a perfect solution? Your screenshot mentioned that Hemopure has not yet being approved by the FDA in the U.S. It is still undergoing Clinical trials. Do you know what that means? I don't think you do since you reason like an Illiterate that Watchtower wants you to be with their No University education Doctrine.

I have posted the Disadvantages of Alternatives to Blood that your Freemason Governing body refused to let you JWs know about. If you like, don't go and take Blood Transfusion like your Fellow smart JWs are doing. Look at them surviving and testifying to it like the Op. You will die like Fowl as Sacrifice to Satan to Boost Watchtower's Billionaire status. I have asked you JWs why you all still die when Alternatives are available, you run away. You JWs still dying is proof your Alternatives don't work! So, your screenshots are useless. We want to see real life experiences from numerous JWS but all we get are Stories of Deaths.

Your No Blood Transfusion Doctrine has put your Cult in trouble with the Czech Republic Government Authorities. You JWS are at the risk of being deregistered again over there just like in Norway for No Blood and Limiting of Social contact with disfellowshiped and dissociated people. Not only that, Watchtower will also lose all their properties Kingdom halls, Assembly Halls and Bethel branches there. Your Governing body have ordered your members to write letters to the Politicians there to change their mind after lying to them that you don't have such Doctrine. It is this same writing letters to Politicians that made Russia ban you people. You people should write to them so that they can ban you

Sand2022:
My dear it's very sad that people like to live in lies and pretend they don't see their errors. The fact is that I don't have time for child's play.

Sand2022, that Audio I tagged you in, did you listen to it?

achorladey:
They are given embargo to desist from doing so. They even send a letter to that effect and for those doing to remove the one posted.

Watchtower is aware of the amount of criticism and disgrace their publications bring to JWS hence the ban. They are not proud of their Content and Doctrines being shown to the Public. They know their Doctrines are ridiculous.

achorladey:
MaxInDHouse already hanged his neck the moment he said Jesus was enthroned in 1914. I asked him to show one publication of his that stated so. He ran away. The same thing he asked us to do, he cannot do it because doing so will support our evidence of Jehovah's Witnesses setting false dates over the years

Haven't you noticed that the JWs here find it very difficult to post their publications here? It's like they are ashamed of what is contained in their publications.

Sand2022:
My dear it's very sad that people like to live in lies and pretend they don't see their errors. The fact is that I don't have time for child's play.

Nobody should bother showing the Mad MaxinDhouse any evidence of False Prophecies. He is a Troll. This is why Fellow JWS on different occasions have called him an Apostate to the point that somebody created a thread to denounce him and say that He has been a disgrace to Jehovah's Witnesses. When I saw that thread, I laughed. mad MaxinDhouse is a disgrace to his own people. Lol.