Bobbynobobby:


Stopped reading at "lab rat". And no, the word of God does not change so I don't need upgrades in that regards. But do what you do, sir. I understand it is paramount to keep the fear levels high in the business of "spiritism". I reiterate, the message is for true believers in Jesus Christ, not fear mongers. Christ has created in you the spirit to win and overcome and not of fear and uncertainty...cowering up and down. Your faith really should set you apart, make you special, empower you, be the light that draws others to Christ, make you a winner!

Which fear level? If this is how courageous you are, why don't you allow your sister/brother/ daughter/Son marry someone with this sort of background? Why don't you wake up in the dead of the night and go and sleep in A very thick forest? Why don't you go to meet a group of Occultic people meeting at night if you really have power?Why don't you go visiting all the shrines/altars and show your power there? Why don't you go to different Occultic lodges and buildings and show your power there? Why did God order the Israelites to avoid marrying from tribes of Idol worshippers and Pagans? Why didn't God order the Israelites to try to convert all the Pagan Nations so that they can marry? The same Bible says flee from Satan. Flee from Evil and it will flee from you.

No o. Go and do all the above things I mentioned above. Let me see the liver. You're here making mouth.

Bobbynobobby:


You people need to evolve in your thinking or else black Africa will continue to be the asshole of the world for a long time to come

And you need to evolve in spiritual matters. You are blind to the Gross evil happening in this world because you are Spiritually blind as well. I don't expect someone like you to understand anything. Your kind will be used as lab rats in some years to come because of your blindness.

For your info, the spiritual wickedness ruling Africa is part of the reason Africa is plagued with extreme poverty. The powers that be use Spiritual laws to hold Africa down and as long as politicians are part of these powers, Africa will remain where it is. I don't expect you to understand a single thing of what I'm saying. So, upgrade your knowledge in how the world really works in the Spirit realm in conjunction with African leaders. Don't joke with the Spirit realm for it controls the physical.

wallarwallar:





Mumu stop being foolish spiritual which covenant. U don't know hw God works dis guy might be d source and reason the father inlaw might retrace his steps back to Jesus since he was a former baptist member.

Mumu, stop being stupid and ignorant. Why didn't the father change through the daughter? So, it is a stranger from outside that will change the father when his daughter is a Christian? You see how useless you are?

Op, stay away from that relationship. Update yourself with spiritual matters. If you were enlightened in what really goes on in the spirit realm, you will marry someone else. Since you take these things seriously, go and find your kind on the same spiritual wavelength and marry her. Spiritual convenants are transferred from parents to children. Be warned

Sorry o but the moment he decides to tie himself to someone from that background, you have knowingly made agreements to some convenants binding that family.

FxMasterz:


Hmm.

The Lord will help us.

He will indeed. He is already doing it.

Now, the question is, why is this symbol found in Hell being used to represent the medical field? If the COVID situation opened your eyes, then you know why.

Regarding the symbol above, this is the god/entity associated with It. Now you know why that symbol was seen in Hell by the man in the Op.

In an NDE experience from an Atheist, he said he saw gods depicted in Egyptian, Roman and Greek folklore in Hell. That was when he began to know that these gods were indeed fallen angels/demons.

In the testimony in the Op, the man said that after seeing and experiencing what he did, he was taken to a Hill and he saw lines of people in chains moving towards the Gate of Hell. He saw a symbol that looks very familiar on the Gate. It is the symbol below. Where do you see this symbol today? Enlightened Christians who are fully aware of what Satan is doing in the world will know what this symbol means.

FxMasterz:


Okay bro. It's explainable.

Satan and demons have not yet been judged. There's still a lake of fire into which hell itself would be cast. That may be the eternal fire Jesus was talking about. The lake of fire is the final judgement. Not hell.

Revelation 20:13-14

"And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."

Yes. Satan and the demons have not been judged yet. The lady's video I posted earlier in the first page also confirmed it. There are many compartments of Hell according to Survivors. There are parts of Hell where Satan meets with his agents. This lady was taken to see the Lake of Fire the Bible talked about. Satan told her that is where she will be with him because she started to question him. That was when she woke up and decided to give her life to Christ.

So, Yes. The Lake of Fire is another punishment waiting in the future.

triplechoice:


I haven't said anything about me believing or not believing NDE. I said it's not Christian belief. If you believe in it as a Christian, then you're not one. That's what I said.

I'm sure you never took the time to read what I already explained about NDE ,if not you wont be making this comment as well as the other the ones before now.

Since you don't believe it is a Christian belief but I believe it to be so due to personal thorough research, what is the issue? Why are you bitter?

triplechoice:


But you were responding at the beginning. Next time ignore those whom you don't want to engage.

Now that you said this, I be will watching out for when anyone ask you to ignore them and you don't.

You're always on the neck of JWs, I'm not one of them, but the same you is not happy to experience the same thing

You're joking.

Take this to your personal blog if you don't know how to handle dissenting views to what you want to believe

Yes I was responding to you to see where the discussion will go. As soon as I saw that you aren't Christian, I saw no need for further discussion s and I told you so. I don't engage Atheists and people from other religions that are very different from Christianity when it comes to Christian beliefs. I am sure you have seen that. I engage JWs because I was once one of them and I know their errors.

Why were you asking me to post NDEs that have nothing to do with Heaven and Hell knowing fully well you don't believe in NDE?

FxMasterz:


No bro. Demons don't torture people in hell. Hell itself is a place of Judgement for Satan and his demons:

Mathew 25:41

Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."

Every other things you said up there is 100% correct. The NDE is an afterlife experience that should tell any sensible person that there's life after death. But you see, Satan is a master of his craft. He has given them some defective logic to scientifically explain the experience away.

We'll keep sounding the warning. He who has an ear, let him hear.

From the NDEs I have seen, demons do torture those in hell. All of them I have seen said the same thing. If you are in the midst of demons, you think they will leave you alone? The condition of Hell also adds to the torture they feel there as well.

Science is alienation from God. Science cannot explain everything. They have to be Creators like God and Jesus before they can successfully do so. Since they are mere humans and can't do that, it would be foolish for people to solely depend on Science because Satan runs everything in this world including Science. Ex Satanists exposed this.

triplechoice:
No. You don't know what's a genuine NDE. You're trying to misinform the public about what you don't know. That's all.

NDE is not Christian doctrine. It's not in the Bible and so you can't claim you're a Christian and still preach it.
I know, because I was once a Christian like you.

The Bible teaches after death then judgement. Nothing like coming back to warn people. There's no one in the Bible that came back to warn anyone of heaven or hell after visiting it or meeting with Jesus.

You're not preaching Christianity but your own doctrine to drive fear into the minds of the gullible.

So since you don't believe in NDEs, why were you telling me to post NDEs that have nothing to do with Heaven and Hell? Why mention NDEs from Africans as well?

triplechoice:
No. You don't know what's a genuine NDE. You're trying to misinform the public about what you don't know. That's all.

NDE is not Christian doctrine. It's not in the Bible and so you can't claim you're a Christian and still preach it.
I know, because I was once a Christian like you.

The Bible teaches after death then judgement. Nothing like coming back to warn people. There's no one in the Bible that came back to warn anyone of heaven or hell after visiting it or meeting with Jesus.

You're not preaching Christianity but your own doctrine to drive fear into the minds of the gullible.

Okay. Thank you.

triplechoice:


This is Nairaland ,a public forum,and not your personal blog and so you can't tell anyone what to respond to.

As long as they don't insult you or derail the thread, you can't bar anyone.

And besides you're not the only one reading my comments. It's not for you alone. Others are also reading yours too.

However, good day and stop commenting on the thread of others if you don't want people to respond to yours.

This is certainly not my personal blog. You have stated your opinion, did you not? When you see I don't buy it, you end the discussion because we are coming from completely different perspectives and Beliefs. You can't force it down my throat. You kept replying me when I'm not interested in what you have to say seeing that you are not a Christian. Of what use is a discussion with you when you don't see NDEs from a Christian angle? These NDEs are for Christians. You don't ever see me in threads meant for Atheists , battling with them and arguing fruitless arguments.

triple choice, I will repeat myself. I am a Christian first and foremost. I don't care what Judaism, what New Age, what Hindu and other religions teach about NDE. Almighty God and Jesus are my focus. I will only post genuine NDEs that talk about God and Jesus. Full stop.

triplechoice:


In Africa, our people have been having NDE experiences before the coming of Christianity .

And what they experienced then, and even now, were different from the ones talking about heaven and hell .


Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying people don't have those experiences in your op. But it's caused by something you're not aware of yet .They aren't meeting any real Jesus or going to a real "heaven or hell".

The so called Jesus represents "something" entirely unknown ( you can called it a being or the Divine if you like) making its appearance know to the experiencer using an image which they're familiar and comfortable with so the experience doesn't shock them.

When adherents of other religion have an NDE, they also get to meet with highly respected religious personages associated with their own religion. For instance those who follow ATR get to meet their ancestors, not Jesus ,and visit a place where they're asked to return back as it's not yet time for them to leave the earth. And they return.

What of atheist or those without a religion who claim to have met Jesus?Those ones are drawn into experiencing during NDE what people around them strongly belief in or what they have believed before. If it's Christianity , then they met Jesus, but not a real one , if Hinduism,then Krishna or any other being associated with that religion.

So in all, the experience of consciousness leaving the body during NDE is real, but most of the things people experienced during
that period are both real/illusion at the same time. It's so because, the brain at this time is no longer functioning as normal to modulate the experience . So one experience both the real and unreal outside the body.

Scientists are still trying to understand the experience , but unfortunately they're very very far from that. So the public who depend completely on them for truth about the human being will have to wait maybe endlessly to know the truth.

But ,believe me ,NDE has nothing to do with your religion, Christianity. It doesn't validate it as you think.

Okay. No further discussions needed.

triplechoice:


The Lazarus story is not what you think. It was used to illustrate something. It never happened. It was a parable and parables are not to be interpreted literally.

Those who practice Judaism know better than you Christians who don't understand the story.

Modified. Please answer this questions?

Why are people during NDE meeting with artists impression of Jesus as a white man?

Are there pictures of Jesus in the Bible to confirm if people are meeting with the real Jesus?

I am not interested in what Judaism followers believe. Judaism is against Jesus. Judaism is against Christianity. The more reason why this discussion is not needed. You're not a Christian. There's no need for this discussion. Please, if this thread doesn't resonate with you at all, there is no need for further discussion.

FxMasterz:


In their foolish display of stubbornness amidst crass ignorance, they even think they know everything about this life, and the life after death. Can you imagine that a full blown man who calls himself an atheist is there thinking that hell fire is a mythical place where fire burns people while Satan torments them? When I hear adults talking about Satan tormenting people in hell, I just shake my head. Most of them didn't grow their knowledge of these things more than what was put into their heads as infants. They have very childish notions of God and the afterlife.

There's a lot of distorted notions of hell out there. I'll like to ask the JWs why anyone should fear sin and not enjoy a selfish disposition in life where you can hurt others to make yourself comfortable. Just do anything to be comfortable in this world since there's no punishment for sins. No hell, no punishment. Let us live our lives the way we choose. Or why should anyone fear to employ any means to enjoy himself since there'll be no judgement? That doctrine is absolutely satanic.

Or, perhaps they have some other forms of punishment or judgement they believe God gives to sinners apart from hell. I'll like to hear it.

It is a pity that a lot of them will find out way too late after Death. It is expected. But for the others who get to experience NDE even though they are Atheists or unbelievers, they never come back the same again. I have watched an NDE from an atheist. That man had to change and believe in God and Jesus by fire by force. These NDEs are intentional to wake up Christians from their slumber and bring more people to God and Jesus.

One thing people will need to understand about Hell is that the torture that happens there isn't from God. Every wicked and vile person has no place in Heaven. This is why Satan and his fellow angels were cast out. It is basic common sense to remove what is evil from a place that is Holy. Therefore, a place has to be made for the others that aren't Holy. The man in the Op explained that alienation from God means everything Good, pure and loving will be stripped away from you. This was what was happening to him as he was falling into Hell. There is a hedge of protection we have now that we are alive from God so that we can show Love and compassion and exhibit good to others. Once you made that decision to alienate from God and Jesus, everything will be stripped from you and you will end up in a place that fits your present condition.

Now why are demons torturing people in Hell? Because Satan and the demons and fallen angels hate humans with a passion. We were created in God's image. We are just objects of envy. Satan and his fellow angels are Only interested in using Humans to propagate their agenda. Once they are done with you, you go to Hell. People need to watch testimonies from Ex Satanists who have given their life to Christ. They expose these things. It was when they realised Satans Hatred for them that even serve him that they realised what they have been doing is wrong. So, when such a person goes to hell, demons will torture him/her to the fullest degree. The man in the Op felt that hatred when he was there. Why is It that people suddenly become interested in the afterlife once they are on their deathbeds? Because regardless of who we are or our beliefs, we all know there is Life after death.

triplechoice:


But the Bible didn't teach NDE experience.

Moreover, how come the description of Jesus seen by these people matches the ones depicted in movies and artworks? There's no picture of Jesus in the Bible. Nobody knows exactly how he looks like.

So, I think if anyone were to see a Jesus in NDE ,it shouldn't be the ones portrayed in movies as white man. Yes

Something is wrong. Don't you think?

Of course the Bible gave a glimpse of Life after Death. That's the essence of a Near Death Experience. The story Jesus gave of Life after Death of Lazarus and the Rich Man is proof that NDEs are real.

As for how Jesus looks like, what does it matter? From the experiences I have read, Jesus shows himself in different ways. The NDEs I've watched, some didn't see his face but felt someone walking behind them as they were navigating Hell and they knew immediately that it was Jesus. Some saw nothing but a bright light around the face area with him dressed in peach coloued robs. Different people had different experiences in that aspect but had similar experiences in most aspects and their messages are always the same, which is, Come To Jesus!

What is the most important thing is their message. Is the message Biblical?

The message of all Genuine Near Death Experiences to Heaven and to Hell Survivors that I have listened to is;

Have a Personal relationship with Jesus. It is this relationship that will save you. Your attachment to any Religious leader will not save you. This is not the time to focus your attention and energy on any Man of God or religious leader. Your attention is supposed to be on Jesus. NDE survivors who went to heaven were made to understand that only those who have a relationship with Jesus will go to Heaven.


Treat people the same way you want to be treated. Treat less privileged people with respect and compassion. This is one of the basis upon which you will be judged by Jesus as stated in the Bible.

FxMasterz:


My brother, Jesus has told us how they would respond to such testimonies. In the same rich man and Lazarus story you shared, the rich man had pleaded with father Abraham to help send Lazarus into the world to notify his brethren in the world about the reality of hell, "so that they would not come to this place." The Lord Jesus in wisdom responded:

Luke 16:31
“He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead'

And that's exactly what is happening whenever people share their NDEs. The Word of the Lord Jesus is the TRUTH.

Exactly. The Man in the Op said any feeling of anger, regret or pain the people in hell were feeling, he was also feeling It too. He could feel their regret and expressions of Had I known, How I wish I could just have a few seconds, How I wish I could have a second chance. He also said there were others, specifically those who practised witchcraft, that were cursing God and displaying anger to show you that they were really meant to be there. Many people now alive will continue in their wickedness and stubborn ignorance until Death stares at them in the face.

There are things to note in these Near Death Experiences of people that went to Hell especially The man in the Op. They mentioned the kind of people they saw in Hell. They all had the ability to know why each person was there.

Ancient people of Old in the Bible that were Baal worshippers, that practice Idol worship and sacrifice of Children. The man in the Op saw them and knew immediately that they have been there for thousands of years.
Pedophiles/Child Sexual abuse predators
Promiscuous people
Murderers and Those who have caused millions of people to die.
Fornicators
Adulterers
Politicians
False Prophets
Lukewarm Christians
Over righteous Christians who are super religious but live double lives and think they are better than others. This was mentioned by the man in the Op.
Celebrities who sort for fame, wealth and influence from Satan
Gossipers whose gossip have led to character assassination, breakdown of fellowships/relationships of people, breakdown of families, and even Death. According to the man, God views Gossip as Slander. It is even biblical. Gossip was mentioned as something to stay away from.
Witches, Warlocks, Sorcerers, Occultists, Cult Leaders
Men of God/religious leaders who have deceived many by teaching their members teachings of demons who have used members to enrich themselves, who have misled members to commit Idolatry and Witchcraft
Members of the above Religious leaders who choose to follow them still after being warned and choose to believe in their teachings of demons
Political Dictators
People who mistreat others especially those who are regarded as Less or disadvantaged in the society.
People who have absolutely no relationship with God and Jesus and do not believe in their existence

triplechoice:


Then why are you ignoring the ones which doesn't support your heaven and hell narrative?

Like this one below


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6DKsqTs9M8?si=LLGWJFLDe62Ua5pF

It is not every NDE experience that you listen to especially if they are not in line with the Bible. You need the Spirit of discernment which is only through the Holy Spirit and you must ask for it. You sound like you're not a Christian. The NDE community has been penetrated by New age believers and others to discredit the genuine ones. There was one I saw where the Narrator was saying that she saw someone who wasn't Born again in Heaven. Now as a Christian, you're supposed to know immediately that this is a Lie because Jesus made It very clear that you must be Born again to see the Kingdom of God. Satan knows that Near Death Experiences bring people closer to Almighty God and Jesus and make them change for good. So, he has sent people to distort the community and make people have disbelief in the genuine ones. Remember Satan Copies Jesus and God and creates counterfeits. I have seen an NDE where the narrator just starts talking about ascending and consciousness. Immediately I knew that's New Age belief and not Biblical. This thread is for Christians. If you're not one, kindly ignore the thread. There are NDE of those who were Atheists, New Agers, Muslims, Satanists and other religions that made them give Their life to Christ.

I will only post genuine ones that align with the Bible. Any NDE that doesn't glorify God and Jesus or speak about them, I will not post.

triplechoice:


Be aware that we also have reports of those who had NDE ,but with experiences that has nothing that with hell .

Don't tell me you haven't seen those ones.

Yes I have seen those ones. I mentioned that in my earlier comment. There are NDE experiences of Heaven as well. I made this thread to simply show that Hell exists and that Ignorance is no excuse.

This is another experience from a Ugandan Ex Sorceress Erica Mukisa. She also had a Near Death Experience that took her to Heaven after she gave her life to Christ. But in this video below, she was in Hell while she was a Sorceress. She started to see things that didn't make sense to her and made her to start questioning Satan. When Satan saw that she started questioning, he ordered that she be taken to see her reality after she dies. That was when she was taken to the Lake of Fire specifically made for Satan and Co.

The man in the Op mentioned the gate of Hell and that all what he saw were just the beginning or orientation. Beyond that gate is the Lake of Fire. When you read different Near Death Experiences to Hell, they all say that Hell has different departments and it is heavily organised. Erica was shown the different stages of the Lake of Fire. There are Bible verses that were removed where Jesus talked about you in Hell finding Death but you won't see and maggots that never die feeding on you. I don't know why such verses had to be removed when Survivors of Near Death Experiences that went to Hell confirmed seeing these maggots feeding on people. This lady saw them. I am sure the intent behind removing those verses were evil.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t9MLDkWm6c?si=0vs2BcqmLkO3Xlfg

In the Lazarus and the Rich Man by Jesus, the Rich Man was begging for drop of water to quench his thirst. This was a very common theme in Near Death Experiences. The Ex gang member in the Op said his throat felt as if he hasn't drank water for many months. A Ugandan lady who was a Former sorceress also said the same thing when she went to Hell. I will post her video. Her experience gave her PTSD just like the man in the Op.

FxMasterz:
We would keep warning muslims, atheists, JWs, idol worshippers, withes, cultists and all sinners everywhere under the sun who reject the good news of salvation. If they like they should keeps saying we are liars. The end will tell, but it would never be said of them that they didn't have the opportunity to hear the gospel.

We have to keep warning them over and over again. Most especially Jehovah's Witnesses. People who have had Near Death Experiences and went to Hell all said that Jesus was showing them times and times again where he sent different people to warn them to change their ways and beliefs and come to him But because they were too stubborn and engrossed in what they were doing, they didn't grasped those moments Jesus was trying to talk to them. And they felt so much Regret, pain , anguish just like the Rich Man and Lazarus story in the Bible. The fact that Jesus mentioned this story proves Near Death Experiences to be true. When in Hell and you see different people there, you will know why each of them are there because you are in Spirit form and your senses are multiplied much more than when you were in physical form.

There are Near Death Experiences where people were taken to heaven which ties in with Lazarus resting in the bossom of Abraham. This was because of how they lived their lives before they died. They all met Jesus and Jesus would show them instances where he was right there with them right from where they were little kids.

There are no second chances in Hell. This was a common theme with all the Near Death Experiences I have listened to. When several people are telling you something repeatedly to change or to leave a Cult, it could very well be Jesus sending those people. There is not much time left. This is the warning from Near Death Experience Survivors. Once you die, the end.

Another testimony. An Ex Satanist meets Satan, dies and meets Jesus.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbuUDn-27sk?si=h0RTdARqvdignwmg

The Ex Gang member had another interview where he revealed some more details about his experience in the video below:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAJShDqxM1E?si=J7UXgaQmFI_kml3Z

Another testimony that confirms the one in the Op. This is another who died by a Car accident and saw the gates of Hell.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6rv1yhFj2A?si=kIucoquPfdemayoy