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Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Tied To Freemasons? by Courz: 11:52am On Jan 07, 2023
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Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Tied To Freemasons? by Courz: 11:50am On Jan 07, 2023
JWs, you are free to do as you like o. You are not a Member. grin

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Tied To Freemasons? by Courz: 11:47am On Jan 07, 2023
So, Jehovah's witnesses reading this, you are not members of your congregation and this organisation. You better learn to deny Watchtower now because it appears something big is about to go down with them. Something is coming upon Watchtower.

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Tied To Freemasons? by Courz: 11:29am On Jan 07, 2023
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Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Tied To Freemasons? by Courz: 11:27am On Jan 07, 2023
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Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Tied To Freemasons? by Courz: 11:20am On Jan 07, 2023
Breaking News. There was a recent leakage from Whistle blower Bethelites that shows that Watchtower has a Public Information Department. This department is responsible for making Watchtower look good in Media and the Public. We all know that Watchtower is Lies Personified so expect Lies to be told in the media in order to make Watchtower look good.

The leaks showed certain unpalatable information. One of which is Watchtower training the members of that department on how to lie in the media. This is very useful when issues like Child Sexual Abuse come up. This attempt by Watchtower is a way to deny any attachment to JWs and absolve themselves of any responsibility. Below are screenshots from the Public Information department Manual. It was mentioned that JWs shouldn't be identified as Members of the organisation or Congregation. Therefore, if JWs in higher positions get orders from Watchtower to carry out certain policies and these JWs get into trouble with the Law, Watchtower will deny any connections with them by saying they are not members of the congregation or organisation.

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Tied To Freemasons? by Courz:
Food for thought....

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Tied To Freemasons? by Courz: 10:40am On Jan 07, 2023
I guess the Mormon Cult and Scientology Cult are the One True religions as well since they were banned along with JWs and also face persecution from Russia.

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Tied To Freemasons? by Courz: 10:20am On Jan 07, 2023
How to catch Watchtower in a Lie.

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 9:45am On Jan 07, 2023
brocab:
I have written this down many times; I belong to the Church at home: are you now satisfied?
And our Church is spread across every nation:
Born again believers from all walks of life; are seeking the Kingdom of God-mediating on His Word Day and Night-under the supervision of the Lords new Covenant, obeying the Commandments and His laws, doing what is written in the scriptures.
Christians giving to the widows the fatherless and the strangers, clothing the poor and needy, feeding the hungry.
Christians praying for each other, praying for people across the globe: Christians working together: Just as Christ always working with His Father.
{Joshua 1:8} Keep this Book of the Law always on your lips; meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do everything written in it. Then you will be prosperous and successful.
We are prosperous and successful just like the Lord promise we will be,
Nice one brocab. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz:
Janosky:


2 kings 25:8-10,25-26 dey co.nk your IBERIBEISM. grin grin grin grin grin

Although Nebuchadnezzar took many captives from Jerusalem to Babylon, he left others behind in the land. He also left the city itself standing. For years after this initial deportation, those left remaining in Judah, “the lowly class of the people,” lived off their land. (2 Kings 24:8-17, from which the IBERIBEIST got his 587BCE calculation which 2 kings 25:8-10,25-26 PROVEN is NOT accurate.
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When,a Jewish revolt brought the Babylonians back to Jerusalem. (2 Kings 24:20; 25:8-10) They razed the city, including its sacred temple, and they took many of its inhabitants captive to Babylon. Within two months, “all the people [who had been left behind in the land] from the least to the greatest, together with the army officers, fled to Egypt for fear of the Babylonians.” (2 Kings 25:25, 26, NIV) Only then, in the seventh Jewish month, Tishri (September/​October), of that year could it be said that the land, now desolate and unworked, began to enjoy its Sabbath rest,in the year 607BCE
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When Did “the Seventy Years” End?

The prophet Daniel, who lived until “the kingdom of Persia came to power,” was on the scene in Babylon, and he calculated when the 70 years were due to end. He wrote: “I, Daniel, perceived in the books the number of years that, according to the word of the LORD to Jeremiah the prophet, must pass before the end of the desolations of Jerusalem, namely, seventy years.”​—Daniel 9:1, 2, ESV.

Ezra reflected on the prophecies of Jeremiah and linked the end of “the seventy years” to the time when “the LORD (Jehovah) moved the heart of Cyrus king of Persia to make a proclamation.” (2 Chronicles 36:21, 22, NIV) When were the Jews released? The decree ending their exile was issued in “the first year of Cyrus the king of Persia.” Thus, by the fall of 537 B.C.E., the Jews had returned to Jerusalem to restore true worship.​—Ezra 1:1-5; 2:1; 3:1-5.

According to Bible chronology, then, the 70 years was a literal period of time that ended in 537 B.C.E. Counting back 70 years, the start date of the period would be 607 B.C.E.
607BCE leads you to 1914 , IYKYK.
The key part is getting the understanding that destruction of Jerusalem was actually in the year 607BCE, PROVEN by 2 kings 25:8-10,25-26.
SubPlot Janosky the weed smoker, You went to copy from your Watchtower website to paste here. I don't want Watchtower trash since their trash cannot be proven. One of your Former Governing body members who wrote one of your publications in the writing committee went to investigate this 607 bce trash and found no evidence to back it up. He instead found 586/587 bce. He was also impressed that there are archaeological findings that back it up. When archaeological findings back up Any Watchtower's doctrine or points, Watchtower is always proud to say it in their publications. They even admitted in one of your publications, in a footnote, that archaeological findings prove that Jerusalem was destroyed in 586/587 bce but they refused to accept it. So, they pick which archaeological findings to suit themselves and discard the rest. Why SubPlot Janosky the weed smoker? Because they need their authority over you! They need to scam you for as long as possible. The wrong date of 607 bce leads to every other doctrine they have taught you. Once 607 bce is wrong, every doctrine that is attached to it is Wrong! Which is why 1914 is wrong. Which is also why none of you JWs when asked to prove 1914 from the Bible, you can't do it. All of you have failed woefully! Which is also why none of you JWs can prove to anyone that Watchtower was indeed selected in 1919 because they never attempted to prove it to you JWs. You can see how they feed you lies, delusions and fantasies.

When Olof Jonsson wrote to Watchtower to correct them in their 607 bce error, why did they disfellowship him? Is it a sin to correct an error from Watchtower? The Man even used the Bible together with archaeological findings. But Watchtower doesn't like people that can think and investigate. Watchtower has admitted that they are not perfect and will make mistakes in doctrine. Someone has seen an error they are teaching and proceeds to correct them with evidence but instead they punished him for it. Because It is forbidden. Is correcting a Disfellowshipping offence? Is that in the Bible? Is that not going beyond what is written? Is that what God or Jesus would have done? It means Watchtower is serving Satan. It also means they have a lot of secrets to hide for them to disfellowship him. They were scared that a JW has found out their secrets and their Fraud. If it is a sin to correct someone, it means you're no longer in a religion meant to come from God. You are in a Cult specially selected by Satan since he is the Father of Lies! So, they would rather keep teaching a Lie till they die!

And guess what happened when JWs found out about this? They left the Cult. If you go to ExJw forums, almost everyone of them said they left when they found out about the Disfellowshipping of Olof Jonsson and the 586/587 bce. I know you are trying so hard to convince yourself that you haven't been duped by these Freemasons but when you are ready to tell yourself the truth, you will. Since Watchtower knows they teach errors, only God knows the amount of errors they are teaching you now.

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz:
brocab:
All I can say: the Lord separated His sheep for the flock of wolves, and made a point to the Pharisee one must be Born Again before He can enter into the Kingdom of God.
Many religions are trying to climb up another way-but what they refuse to acknowledge Jesus is the only door to God. There's no window there's no other door 'that they will enter in.
It's simple to reach out to the Lord; this is a free gift for those that want it.
Cult's always believe they are right with answers, but deep within the dead do not know their past, nor the future.
People are dying everyday: those who sat in churches-and still didn't know the Lord:
Don't people in the Watchtower understand, if I was told I would be caste out, if I saved my child by given them blood that would give them life, I would prefer to be caste out, don't they understand God is not the God of the dead: but of the living. {Luke 20;38, Luke 12:27}
I don't see any point in witnessing to anybody about God, if I wasn't Born Again, it's clear what the Lord say's: {John 3:3} these are chosen people Christ was given by God, Jesus made a point to separate His people, away from the rest of the world.
There's no other way-to enter into His Kingdom.
The Lord say's: test everything, when I hear preachers preach gospel, I test it, if it's not lining up with the Word, I won't waste my time with them, this is what the JW's should be doing: testing the elders, to see if they are preaching the Word of God. If what they preach doesn't line up-run, and find somewhere else where they will hear to truth.
Unfortunately in JW, they are not taught to test what they are taught to see if what they are taught is True. They are taught to listen to Watchtower, accept and obey anything they are told whether what they are taught makes sense or not from a Human standpoint. Watchtower requires Blind obedience. JWs are told all the time that Jesus and Jehovah trust the Governing body. Therefore, they should trust the Governing body too. You can see that they are told something completely opposite from what the Bible says.

As a typical Cult, Watchtower never tolerates Questioning. It is forbidden to question their leaders or correct them. But the Bible says you must question. Questioning is part of the the testing process the Bible demands. But in JW, once you start to question the leadership or try to correct a wrong doctrine or opinion, you will be marked. The Elders will be ordered from above to watch you like CIA Agents. You will be branded an Apostate. If you saw something from the Bible that contradicts the doctrines of Watchtower and you went ahead to write a letter to the Headquarters of Watchtower in order to correct them, you will be disfellowshipped. How do I know? It has happened to a JW, Carl Olof Jonsson (I have forgotten his position he held in Watchtower, someone who knows should remind me) Who was trying to correct the doctrine of when Jerusalem was destroyed. He even wrote a book titled Gentile Times Reconsidered explaining the correct date by using the Bible and Archaeological evidence together. Every archaeological evidence points to 586/587 bce. Archaeological evidence that was preserved since the time of King Nebuchadnezzar. A former Governing body member actually did his research, going to libraries and examined archaeological evidence but found no supporting evidence for 607 bce but instead found 586/587 bce. Ordinary Google also confirms the archaeological evidence. Only Watchtower teaches that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce. Just because someone did thorough research and saw the fraud in the doctrine and wanted to correct them, they decided to get rid of him. Why? Because it is forbidden to correct them and because the correction will expose the fact that Jesus never selected them in 1919. It will also expose the fact that 1914 is wrong and made up and that their authority over them is a fraud. Watchtower doesn't want JWs to know about this. They will see the fraud. Their imaginary calculations from 607 bce leads to 1914 which was supposed to be the time the world would end but the world didn't end on that date, they eventually changed it to when Jesus came. And from 1914, they got the date 1919 which is supposed to be the date Jesus selected them as the One True religion. Once a JW knows all of this, they will leave the Cult. Many found out about this Disfellowshipping story, found out about 607 bce and eventually left the Cult.

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 10:21pm On Jan 05, 2023
brocab:
Max you got to read the scriptures yourself, I never wrote one must be born again, the Lord wrote it down, He said; you must be Born again before you can enter into the Kingdom of God.
I realize you don't understand the scriptures, I am trying to help you max: this is your chance to be saved-with the little 1% knowledge you have now, picture this, coming to Christ your knowledge will increase 10 times 10, the Lords wisdom will grow in you, you won't be disappointed:
Having the Lord by your side; you will be learning bible verses you didn't know existed, the Word will open up to you, that's the promise the Lord had given to all those who chooses to believe.
Nice Preaching you are doing for Mad MaxInDHouse. Unfortunately, your Preaching is in vain. You can see Mad MaxInDHouse knows nothing about being born again. He even mocks the doctrine. A doctrine that comes from Jesus. Did you know that when I was in this Cult, I never quite understood what being Born Again means. The explanation from Watchtower also didn't make sense to me. It was when I left and decided to read the Bible alone, I then understood the whole Born again process well. It was so straightforward to me.

I keep saying it that JWs are very backward in the knowledge of the Bible. There is a danger in blindly following Men, Freemasons for that matter, because you will be led astray. They have admitted that they are not inspired by the Holy Spirit. That's a Red flag because you will be taught fantasies and delusions.

Let me share a discussion I had with a JW in another forum. You remember the Bible verse where Jesus gave an expo on how he will judge the world. He said he will separate his sheep from the Goats. His Sheep on his right, the goats on his left. Jesus said he will tell his Sheep to come and inherit the Kingdom that has been prepared for them since the world began which means They will be in Heaven. How do we know? Apostle Paul said Flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. Physical bodies will be turned to spirit form. Very clear. Therefore, all of Jesus sheep are going to Heaven. But in JW Land, this is a contradiction because They are taught that only the Anointed will inherit the Kingdom and will go to heaven. So, the rest of JWs who are not anointed have been excluded without JWs knowing it. Now based on this, I asked this JW, when that time comes for Jesus to separate his Sheep from the Goats, where will he be since he is not anointed? Is he going to be with the Goats? He kept giving long stories and evading the question. It was a pitiful sight to behold because JWs are not aware that their teachings have excluded them from the road to life that Jesus has given freely. Watchtower came along and blocked that road and they are not seeing it. The good thing about the words of Jesus in this verse is he explicitly mentioned two destinations for the world when he will come to judge: His sheep are inheriting the Kingdom which is Heaven while the Goats will be destroyed. He never mentioned Paradise Earth as Watchtower teaches. So, where do the majority of JWs fit in? Are they Sheep or Goats? Watchtower indirectly says JWs are Goats according to their doctrine.

This is why your explanation of being Born Again cannot be understood by Mad MaxInDHouse. Jesus was very clear that in order for anyone to see the Kingdom, he or she MUST be born again. JWs who are not anointed according to Watchtower have been excluded because they are NOT Born Again and therefore will not see the Kingdom as Jesus said. They don't even know the implications of this. Too bad. That's what you get for following Freemasons. sad
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 4:50pm On Jan 05, 2023
Prosper1912:
You said it not true that Jesus came in 1914, so tell me yr reason so that we can proceed.
From the questions I have been asking you, you are supposed to know where I am going with this discussion. It seems you can't answer this question as well. Your own case is worse. I have asked this same question from the JWs in this forum and none of them could explain the 1914 doctrine and where it is found in the Bible. They all failed woefully.

Show me from the book of Daniel where it was said that Jesus would come in 1914.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 4:34pm On Jan 05, 2023
Prosper1912:
Everything about that 1914 is in the bible of Daniel. So tell me yr opinion first before I will start my explanation.
I have asked this same question from the JWs in this forum and none of them could explain the 1914 doctrine and where it is found in the Bible.

I am hoping you will be different and put them to shame. So, Show me from the book of Daniel where it was said that Jesus would come in 1914.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 4:24pm On Jan 05, 2023
Prosper1912:
Before I will give u answer, first share wilth me yr opinion why u did not agree that Jesus came in 1914.
Show me directly from the Bible that Jesus came in 1914. You believe you JWs stick to the Bible right? Therefore, Jesus should have mentioned that he will come in 1914. Remember, the Bible was written thousands of years ago. So, Show me from the Bible how you arrived at 1914.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 4:10pm On Jan 05, 2023
Prosper1912:
1914 marked the birth of God’s heavenly Kingdom and the beginning of “the last days” of this present wicked system of things.​—2 Timothy 3:1-5.
Where is 1914 in 2 Timothy 3 vs 1-5? Did Jesus specifically tell you that he came in 1914?
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 4:06pm On Jan 05, 2023
Prosper1912:
Chirst rulership hasn't reach the earth.
Why did it take you JWs many years to find the scripture that says the day and the hour, nobody knows. Only the Father knows? Since Jesus says his coming which will mark the end of the world, nobody knows when it will happen, why are you JWs still teaching that Jesus came in 1914? Show me 1914 from the Bible when Jesus explicitly said no date. How did Watchtower manage to know 1914 when Jesus says no one knows?
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 3:56pm On Jan 05, 2023
Prosper1912:
Few day ago I learnt that CHURCH OF CHRIST no longer celebrate Christmas and Newyear. And when I asked the reason why they stop it they say it is not in the bible. The funny part of it is that, the only thing they say they are celebrating is the holy communion.
Then I said in my mind isn't these what we have been preaching for years now. When we go against it they said we are twisting the bible, that na back of bible we dey read.

So courz why are all the churches stoping some of all these celebrate?
Why did it take you JWs many years to find the scripture that says the day and the hour, nobody knows. Only the Father knows? Since Jesus says his coming which will mark the end of the world, nobody knows when it will happen, why are you JWs still teaching that Jesus came in 1914?
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 3:17pm On Jan 05, 2023
Prosper1912:
Courz
Hit the nail directly at the nail and stop beating round the bush.
You say you are not under Watchtower. You are separate from them. Therefore, their rules and regulations does not concern you. Oya answer my questions and speak like an Apostate. You are one of us now. grin

Since you say you JWs are not under Watchtower and are not controlled by Watchtower, does that mean that you will now start celebrating Christmas and Birthdays like your International Bible Students Association members are doing today? You will start celebrating them without fear of being disfellowshipped or punished? Does that mean you will start taking Blood Transfusion as well? Do you know some JWs take Blood Transfusion secretly?
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 3:05pm On Jan 05, 2023
Prosper1912:
Courz
I forget say the na another year we don enter,
Wenti be yr New year resolution?
Abi u nor still dey do New year.
You say you are not under Watchtower. You are separate from them. Therefore, their rules and regulations does not concern you. Oya answer my questions and speak like an Apostate. You are one of us now. grin

Since you say you JWs are not under Watchtower and are not controlled by Watchtower, does that mean that you will now start celebrating Christmas and Birthdays like your International Bible Students Association members are doing today? You will start celebrating them without fear of being disfellowshipped or punished? Does that mean you will start taking Blood Transfusion as well? Do you know some JWs take Blood Transfusion secretly?
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Tied To Freemasons? by Courz: 2:40pm On Jan 05, 2023
Another Kingdom hall sold.

Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 2:06pm On Jan 05, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Thanks to JWs for locating me, is this how those outside the camp are suffering due to spiritual thirst? undecided
Your Cult also suffers from serious spiritual thirst because your Faithful slave are not inspired by the Holy Spirit. All your doctrines are guess work and in a matter of a few years they will change. It took you JWs many years before you realised that No one knows when the world would end. But other Christians already knew. See? You JWs are backward in God's word. They keep feeding you errors upon errors of doctrines. You have completely deviated from Christianity and now Watchtower feeds you rotten milk. The rest of Christianity have already moved on in the Bible, while you JWs are still sleeping on bicycle. Why do you think your fellow JWS break your rules? Because they know Watchtower's spiritual food is Cow dung sad
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Tied To Freemasons? by Courz: 1:56pm On Jan 05, 2023
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Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Tied To Freemasons? by Courz: 1:52pm On Jan 05, 2023
More Child Sexual Abuse cases. Watchtower refused to hand over documents and the judgement was in favor of the victim. Same cover ups, same denials. Typical Watchtower.

Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 1:47pm On Jan 05, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ the thirst is really choking you!

Earlier you said it's about passing messages to scare people from JWs next you're begging for my attention again.
When will you be honest and sincere with your own soul? undecided
But you denied Watchtower. You are not under Watchtower. Watchtower doesn't control you. Therefore, their rules doesn't concern you. You are on your way to Apostasy. How did you get to the point of denying Watchtower?
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 1:26pm On Jan 05, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I have just one question for you:

Why are you desperately, restlessly and eagerly thirsting for whatever a JW have to say?
Do you think you deserve a break from this deplorable heart condition? embarassed

"So he called and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazʹa·rus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this blazing fire" Luke 16:24
But you denied Watchtower. You are not under Watchtower. Watchtower doesn't control you. Therefore, their rules doesn't concern you. You are on your way to Apostasy. How did you get to the point of denying Watchtower?
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Tied To Freemasons? by Courz: 1:19pm On Jan 05, 2023
A Kingdom hall in the UK Abandoned will be turned to Offices. Where did all the JWs there go? sad

Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 1:04pm On Jan 05, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Chai!I
Come see insanity o! embarassed

No be you tok this one?

undecided
But you denied Watchtower. You are not under Watchtower. Watchtower doesn't control you. Therefore, their rules doesn't concern you. You are on your way to Apostasy. How did you get to the point of denying Watchtower?
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 12:52pm On Jan 05, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
OK Sir! cheesy
So, tell us, How did you become Apostate? Are you finally seeing the light of all what we have been saying about Watchtower in this forum for you to start denying them? smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 12:30pm On Jan 05, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ this forum doesn't belong to atheists neither this particular thread so you're WRONG! cheesy
Says the Apostate who also created his own threads that nobody bothers to engage in as well. Instead, you are busy engaging with Apostates and Atheists. All your comments are with Apostates and atheists. The same people you call faithless. The same people Watchtower warned you to stay away from. You disagree with Watchtower when they said you should stay away from us. You JWs enjoy our company. Your stay in Nairaland Religion forum is never interesting without us. You and Fornicator Aemmyjah. No matter how many times you call us names, call us evil, call us faithless, you vow to stay away from us, you all will come back here and listen to what we have to say. Works everytime.

Now that you JWs are now denying Watchtower, we have seen that our work here has worked tremendously. I am happy with our progress.

Unlike you who is expecting engagement with threads to feel good about yourself, I am not expecting any engagement because I don't have low self esteem like You. Oteneaaron created the thread and I did justice to that thread. As long as all I have posted in that thread gets views, I am satisfied. I am even amazed at how much views it accumulates. Nobody needs to comment. Just read and assimilate. There are JWs in your midst who are against Watchtower. There are others who have suspicions about Watchtower. That thread is for them. Not you.

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