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Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by CreativeOrbit: 11:02am On Jun 14, 2025
basilico:
The only reason they want nuclear technology is the bomb.
Their neighbors will also rush to get bombs. With the bomb Iran can sponsor Houthis to blow up Aramco facilities or threaten to close Strait of Hormuz .
Wait they already did that.

Iran has Quds day. Every Friday they chant Death to America Death to Israel. The leader who believes Israel is a cancer that should be uprooted

They don't mean what they say is the rest of the world excusing them.
What if Israel didn't have Air Defences. It would have been wiped off by Hamas rockets, Hesbolla & Houthi Missiles and rockets.
And now this.
You don't excuse them because what they say don't make sense to you.
(I politely asked you to dare me.)
Your entire response is riddled with paranoia, hypocrisy, and a colonial mindset that thinks Muslim nations must forever ask permission to breathe. So let’s break your delusions apart one by one.

First, you claim “the only reason Iran wants nuclear technology is the bomb.”
Wrong. Iran has repeatedly declared its nuclear doctrine as peaceful and defensive under the NPT, and it has endured the most invasive IAEA inspections of any country on earth. Meanwhile, your beloved Israel possesses actual undeclared nuclear warheads, refuses inspections, and isn’t even a signatory to the NPT—yet you say nothing. Why? Because in your twisted view, Western allies are allowed to arm to the teeth, but Muslims must disarm, bow, and beg. That colonial arrogance won’t fly anymore.

Second, you cry about Iran sponsoring resistance, while ignoring decades of Western-backed coups, assassinations, illegal wars, and full-scale invasions across the Muslim world. Iraq was flattened. Libya torn apart. Syria destabilized. Gaza turned into an open-air prison. Yet you’re worried about Aramco getting “blown up”? Spare us the crocodile tears. The Houthis, Hezbollah, and Hamas exist because your so-called “civilized world” has given Muslims no option except resistance.

Third, you bring up slogans like “Death to America” and “Death to Israel” as if they’re irrational. Here’s a history lesson: America armed Saddam to gas Iranians. America placed crippling sanctions on innocent civilians. Israel murdered nuclear scientists, bombed Syria, invaded Lebanon, and occupies Palestinian land with brutal apartheid. If you want to be treated peacefully, stop committing acts of war. Respect is earned—not begged for.

Fourth, you whine, “What if Israel didn’t have air defenses?”
Let’s flip that: what if Palestinians had air defenses? What if Iran had the Iron Dome to stop Mossad’s terror campaigns and Israeli airstrikes in Syria? The only reason Israel still exists is its Western-sponsored war machine and nuclear arsenal—yet Iran is the villain for seeking basic deterrence?

Lastly, don’t pretend to be polite while cheerleading for apartheid and then daring Muslims to remain silent. You asked for the truth—here it is:
Iran is done appeasing hypocrites. The Ummah is done bowing to double standards. If justice, sovereignty, and resistance offend you, that’s your problem—not ours.

You want Muslims to sit quietly while you bomb their cities, sanction their food and medicine, and then insult their right to defend themselves? Not anymore. Not again. Not ever.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by CreativeOrbit: 2:59am On Jun 14, 2025
basilico:
Iran has enough oil for its electricity and energy needs for centuries. Why they need to enrich uranium. They should disable the centrifuges, Russia is the world's largest supplier of nuclear fuel to almost every country with nuclear reactors, they will give them in exchange of their drones. Russia supplies 20% America with nuclear fuel ,despite all those sanctions.
First, your statement reeks of strategic ignorance. Iran enriching uranium isn't about lighting homes—it's about sovereign rights, scientific independence, and deterrence in a world where submission equals destruction. Oil powers cars; uranium powers a nation’s future. Stop confusing apples with warheads.

Second, why should Iran disable its centrifuges to please Western paranoia or your naive trust in foreign dependency? Has history taught you nothing? Iraq disarmed—look what happened. Libya gave up its program—utterly dismantled. North Korea kept its nukes—still standing. Iran is not suicidal enough to follow the path of appeasement that leads to the grave.

Third, the idea that Russia will indefinitely supply Iran with nuclear fuel out of goodwill—while under brutal Western sanctions and stretched in its own geopolitical chessboard—is laughable. No sovereign country entrusts its energy security, strategic leverage, and scientific infrastructure to an external power just because someone online thinks it’s “more convenient.”

Lastly, you conveniently forget that the same West that demands Iran "disable" its centrifuges has spent decades waging economic war, cyber sabotage (Stuxnet ring a bell?), and assassinating Iranian scientists. Yet somehow Iran should just "trust" the international community?

No. Iran enriches uranium because it can, because it must, and because history has shown the price of trusting hypocrites is national suicide. Keep your double standards. Iran will keep spinning its centrifuges.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by CreativeOrbit: 2:40am On Jun 14, 2025
basilico:
Iran attack is savage. They are targeting the whole of Israel.
IDF had specific targets. Israel don't forget has ballistic missiles too but they are risking pilots to take out targets.
29% if Israel is Arab and Muslins , their missiles don't know that, So the people they are fighting for might get killed in the process
You have witnessed nothing yet. Iran’s current actions are merely preliminary—a strategic assessment, not a full demonstration of capability.

Further developments will follow in due course.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by CreativeOrbit: 12:18am On Jun 14, 2025
Gbadebo19:
When you finish deceiving yourself, you will face the truth. I don't even know where to begin with you. But rest assured, we've dealt with your type a thousand times here B4.
Spare me the theatrics. When you're done hiding behind smug one-liners and recycled arrogance, maybe then you'll be ready for a real discussion.

You claim to have 'dealt with my type'? Then clearly, you’ve learned nothing—because here I am, dismantling your delusions line by line.

What you call 'truth' is just repetition wrapped in bravado.

If you've faced a thousand like me, then make this encounter the one you actually learn from.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by CreativeOrbit: 12:11am On Jun 14, 2025
basilico:
V8

Go duel it out at the religion section mention me so that I can join in.
The following phrases apply to the IDF attack.
The Pandora's box has been opened.
The banality of the Ayatollahs is now exposed.
The Rubicon has been crossed.
IDF stirred the hornets nest.
The gates of hell have been flung wide open.
A storm has been unleashed.
The powder keg has been ignited and the Veil of restraint has been torn.

Let's see what a country with useless Anti Aircraft Defence system will do next .
Iran has begun launching strikes on Israel, and suddenly, your voice has gone silent. Where is your outrage now.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by CreativeOrbit: 9:07pm On Jun 13, 2025
TenQ:
The truth is bitter: I just showed you the origin of this needless conflict.

From the River to the Sea......
Stop lying—your so-called ‘truth’ is just pathetic propaganda. You didn’t ‘show’ anything except your own delusions. ‘From the River to the Sea’ is nothing but a violent fantasy, and repeating it just proves you’re either a brainwashed soft touch or a malicious liar. Take your toxic rhetoric somewhere else—nobody’s buying it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by CreativeOrbit: 8:57pm On Jun 13, 2025
basilico:
I don't wish to bring a discussion on religion .
I have some topics I had started 10 years ago. Reply to any .
What is wrong with you?

I’m not interested in digging up decade-old threads just because you refuse to engage in a real conversation now.

If you can’t articulate a coherent point today, don’t waste my time with your evasive nonsense.

Either say something relevant or stop talking.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by CreativeOrbit: 11:47am On Jun 13, 2025
basilico:
Start a thread at the religion section , let's leave this one alone with matters about religion. I dare you.
Oh, you “dare” me?
You started this mess by quoting Islamic hadiths and pretending you could challenge Muslim theology. But now you’re tucking your tail and saying, “Start a thread elsewhere”—as if you’re some referee instead of the instigator.

Let’s cut the nonsense.

> If you had conviction, you’d start the thread yourself.
But like every insecure apologist hiding behind empire and scripture he barely understands, you expect someone else to carry your theological burden for you.

You don’t issue dares from the sidelines. You step into the arena—or stay silent.

You brought religion into this thread. You threw the first theological stone. Now that it’s crumbling in your hand, you're pretending you want “organized debate.” No. What you want is a controlled environment to escape exposure.

Well, here’s your reality check:

Start the thread yourself.
Put your Bible on the table. Quote your verses. Make your accusations. Bring your doctrine.
But be ready, because I won't just respond—I’ll demolish every pillar of your fragile theology with Qur’an, reason, and history.

And if you’re too scared to take the first step, just admit it.
Don’t dress your cowardice up as some noble challenge.

> So either post the thread like a man—or stop pretending you're ready for a theological war you're clearly unarmed for.

Your move.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by CreativeOrbit: 10:45am On Jun 13, 2025
basilico:
V8

Go duel it out at the religion section mention me so that I can join in.
The following phrases apply to the IDF attack.
The Pandora's box has been opened.
The banality of the Ayatollahs is now exposed.
The Rubicon has been crossed.
IDF stirred the hornets nest.
The gates of hell have been flung wide open.
A storm has been unleashed.
The powder keg has been ignited and the Veil of restraint has been torn.

Let's see what a country with useless Anti Aircraft Defence system will do next .
So now you've abandoned argument and retreated into vague metaphors and ominous one-liners—as if theatrical language will distract from the blood on the hands of the regime you’re cheerleading.

Let me respond to your literary performance with blunt moral reality:

1. "The Pandora’s Box has been opened."
You're right. And inside that box was 75 years of colonial violence, ethnic cleansing, and apartheid. It was opened in 1948, not 2023. Everything since has been a consequence of your side’s crimes—not ours.

2. "The Rubicon has been crossed."
Indeed, it has. When the so-called “only democracy in the Middle East” decided to starve civilians, bomb hospitals, use white phosphorus on children, and flatten entire neighborhoods—all on camera—it crossed not just the Rubicon, but every red line of morality, law, and human decency.

3. "The gates of hell have been flung wide open."
You’re mistaken if you think hell opened in October 2023. It opened when Zionist militias massacred villages like Deir Yassin, raped Palestinian women, and burned olive groves. The hell you're seeing now is the result of decades of unchecked injustice finally erupting.

You want to talk about “dueling it out”?

Good. Let’s duel in truth, in history, and in unflinching moral clarity—not poetic soundbites hiding cowardice.

Because while you spout vague war metaphors, let me remind you of real numbers:

Over 15,000 children dead.

More than 40,000 Palestinians maimed.

2 million people starving in a besieged open-air prison.

Whole families erased from civil registries.

Entire neighborhoods turned to ash.

And still, your side talks about “defense.”

What kind of theology defends the starvation of toddlers? What kind of Christ would bless missiles raining down on hospitals? What kind of moral system do you represent—where the occupier is a victim and the occupied are terrorists for refusing to die quietly?

“Let’s see what a country with useless air defenses does next,” you say?

Let’s rephrase that:

> Let’s see what a nuclear-armed apartheid regime—funded by billions in American aid, backed by the most powerful empire on earth—does next, now that it has failed to crush the will of a besieged, barefoot population armed with homemade rockets and unshakable faith.

That’s not just military failure. That’s moral humiliation.

You quote drama. I’ll quote history, religion, and fact. You worship power. We believe in justice. You celebrate genocide. We stand for resistance.

So go ahead—mention me in your “religion section.” I will bring revelation, resistance, and reckoning.

Because unlike your shaky theology, ours doesn't bend to empires.
It stands with the oppressed—always.
And in the end, the side of justice always prevails.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by CreativeOrbit: 10:29am On Jun 13, 2025
Gbadebo19:
You keep downplaying the thing as if Russia is not getting help from elsewhere. I have a leaked document showing how tonnes of African gold were stolen and used to pay Iran for drones. China's manufacturing capacity dwarfs the whole of Europe. The same china is also supplying aid to Russia. North Korea is also supplying thousands in soldiers. Your point doesn't stand.
Thank you for your reply. However, your response suffers from false equivalence, selective framing, and a misunderstanding of the scale and nature of the conflict.

1. Russia’s Alleged “Support” Is Not Comparable to NATO’s Backing of Ukraine

You mentioned alleged support to Russia from countries like Iran, North Korea, and China. Let’s be precise:

Iran’s drone supply is real but limited to specific types of tactical weaponry like Shahed drones—low-cost, expendable assets, not a strategic game-changer.

North Korea’s involvement is largely speculative. Claims of supplying artillery shells and possibly laborers or advisors are not comparable to NATO's real-time battlefield intelligence, satellite data, cyber support, and state-of-the-art weapons.

China, while economically significant to Russia, has avoided direct military support to prevent sanctions and geopolitical backlash. It sells dual-use goods, not tanks or advanced missile systems.

Now compare that to Ukraine’s backing:

Over $250+ billion in aid from NATO and EU countries.

Continuous supplies of long-range missile systems (HIMARS), Patriot air defense, Leopard tanks, Bradleys, and F-16 fighter jets (soon to arrive).

NATO-grade training, surveillance, logistics, and battlefield coordination.

This is not a symmetrical support structure. You're comparing a few countries’ marginal support to a full-scale, institutionalized, multi-nation military alliance backing Ukraine with near-unlimited funding and intelligence.

2. Russia Is a Sovereign Power, Ukraine Is a Proxy Warzone

Russia is the initiating state power. Ukraine is the battlefield—and its survival is contingent on foreign lifelines. Without Western support, the Ukrainian military would collapse. That’s not conjecture; it’s admitted openly by U.S. and European officials.

By contrast, Russia is not dependent on any one foreign supplier for its military survival. Its defense industry, while strained, is domestic. It has nuclear capabilities, one of the largest standing armies, and is self-sufficient in energy and raw materials.

3. Allegations of “African Gold” Payments Are a Distraction, Not a Counterpoint

Even if we accept the claim of “African gold” being used by Russia to pay for weapons (which remains largely anecdotal and based on unverified leaks), it doesn’t prove your case. Illicit financial flows or backchannel trade do not equate to formal, institutional, legal military alliances like NATO.

> The core issue remains: Russia is fighting a NATO-armed proxy, not just Ukraine as a standalone actor. This fundamentally changes the dynamics, prolongs the conflict, and complicates any assumptions about military capability.

4. Conclusion: Your Argument Lacks Proportionality and Context

Yes, Russia receives limited support. But equating that with the structured, sustained, and coordinated NATO military campaign on Ukrainian soil is misleading.

The West has turned Ukraine into a frontline buffer against Russia—politically, economically, and militarily. The comparison between Russia’s allies and NATO's involvement simply doesn’t hold.

Let’s not pretend this is a symmetrical battlefield. It’s not.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by CreativeOrbit: 9:41am On Jun 13, 2025
TenQ:
The Jews and the Arabs were coexisting before 1948 as stateless people until the words of the prophet was remembered.

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2236
Ibn 'Umar narrated that the Messenger of Allah(s.a.w) said:
"You shall fight the Jews. You will gain such control over them, that a rock will say: 'O Muslim! This Jew is behind me so kill him!'"

Mishkat al-Masabih 5414
He reported God's messenger as saying, "The last hour will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims kill them, so that Jews will hide behind stones and trees and the stone and the tree will say, `O Muslim, O servant of God, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.' The only exception will be the box-thorn, for it is one of the trees of the Jews."

Sahih al-Bukhari 2926
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."



Can you please ask why the "ethnic Palestinian Jews" were forced out of Gaza strip by the Israeli Government in 2005?
Your attempt to shift the conversation from modern Israeli war crimes to cherry-picked eschatological hadiths reveals both desperation and ignorance. Let me respond to your deflection with the clarity and harshness it deserves.

1. Quoting Hadiths to Justify Zionist Colonialism? Pathetic.

You cite eschatological hadiths—about end-times scenarios—not normative Islamic commands for today. These hadiths are prophecies, not policies. They describe what will happen, not what Muslims are commanded to do now. There is a fundamental difference between descriptive prophecy and prescriptive ethics.

> Try again when you understand basic hermeneutics.

Meanwhile, what is prescriptive in Islam is the prohibition of oppression, the defense of the oppressed, and the right to resist tyranny. And if you’re seriously quoting hadith while supporting a regime that bombs hospitals and starves children, then congratulations—you’ve weaponized Islamic scripture to sanitize genocide.

2. “Jews and Arabs coexisted peacefully before 1948”?

You're right—and that coexistence ended the moment Zionist militias began ethnically cleansing Palestine in 1947–48. It was Zionism, not Islam, that tore apart peaceful Jewish-Arab relations. The Nakba didn’t happen because of religion. It happened because armed settlers, backed by imperial powers, began forcibly displacing an indigenous population for the sake of creating an ethno-state.

> Nearly 800,000 Palestinians were expelled. Over 500 villages were destroyed. And you dare talk about “coexistence”?

3. Zionist Regime Expelled Jews from Gaza in 2005? Yes — Because It’s a Racist State.

The “ethnic Palestinian Jews” you claim were “forced out” of Gaza in 2005 were not natives. They were illegal settlers living on stolen land under military protection while Palestinians were caged in ghettos.

And who forced them out? The Israeli government—not Palestinians. Why? Because Israel wanted to consolidate control of the West Bank and maintain the siege on Gaza from the outside while pretending to "disengage."

> That wasn’t coexistence ending—it was Zionist strategy evolving.

If Israel expelled its own settlers, that’s not evidence of peace-loving Zionism—it’s evidence of manipulative statecraft using people as pawns in a larger colonial project.

4. Citing Hadith While Supporting an Apartheid State? Laughable.

If you're going to quote Islamic texts, then be consistent. Here’s a few principles you conveniently ignore:

“Do not kill women or children or the elderly or sick.”

“Do not destroy trees or crops or buildings.”

“Do not betray, mutilate, or act unjustly.”

These are prophetic commands to Muslims even in war. Yet Israel bombs entire families, flattens hospitals, blocks food and water, and then whines about resistance.

> Where’s your outrage for the babies burned alive in incubators because Israel cut electricity?

> Where’s your morality when white phosphorus rains down on UN shelters?

Your silence on those crimes makes your hadith quotes nothing but hollow hypocrisy.

5. Don’t Pretend You Care About Jews — You’re Just Using Them.

Let’s be clear: your concern isn’t for Jews. It’s for deflecting criticism from a colonial state that uses Jewish identity as a human shield. Israel doesn’t represent world Jewry—it represents a political ideology called Zionism. And many Jews—Orthodox, secular, even Holocaust survivors—oppose it.

You bring up hadiths as if Islam mandates genocide. Meanwhile, Israel is actually carrying out real-world genocide right now—live on camera, with American weapons, and your full-throated support.

6. Final Reality Check:

You think quoting hadiths will morally disarm Muslims?

You think we will ignore:

The starvation of 2 million people?

The slaughter of over 15,000 children in Gaza?

The theft of land, the bulldozing of homes, the arrests of teenagers, the shooting of journalists and medics?

> Islam does not teach pacifism in the face of oppression.
It teaches resistance, dignity, and justice.
And Palestine is the test of our moral clarity.

So no—we will not be distracted by your weak theological smokescreens.

Until Zionism ends, occupation ends, and the siege ends,

Resistance is not terrorism—it is the language of the besieged.

And quoting hadiths won’t save a regime whose hands drip with innocent blood.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by CreativeOrbit: 12:26am On Jun 13, 2025
TenQ:
Please advise
1. On October 7, Hamas murdered hundreds of innocent Israeli civilians
2. The built tunnels and bunkers under mosques, hospitals and civilian infrastructures
3. Hamas continues to fight Israel from these bunkers under civilian infrastructure


Please Advise as Israel demands the complete dismantling of Hamas?
Your selective outrage and loaded narrative betray either deep ignorance or willful dishonesty.

1. On October 7 – You refer to the events of that day without a shred of historical context. Israel has enforced a brutal, suffocating blockade on Gaza since 2007, turning it into the world’s largest open-air prison. It has subjected Palestinians to repeated massacres in 2008, 2012, 2014, 2018, and beyond—killing thousands of civilians, many of them women and children, long before October 7. If you're truly concerned about “innocent civilians,” start with decades of Israeli occupation, land theft, and war crimes.

2. Tunnels under mosques and hospitals? That’s the oldest Zionist propaganda trick in the book—accuse your victims of hiding among civilians, then bomb civilians anyway and shift blame to the resistance. Israel has bombed entire hospitals, UN schools, and refugee camps on live television—with or without tunnels. The “human shields” excuse is a coward’s justification for genocide. By your logic, any resistance against a technologically superior oppressor becomes illegitimate if it dares exist among the population it is trying to protect. That's immoral nonsense.

3. Hamas continues to fight from bunkers under civilian infrastructure—and Israel fights from F-16s, drones, and tanks provided by the U.S., killing tens of thousands, 70% of them women and children, leveling entire neighborhoods. Yet the burden of morality is placed only on the occupied, not the occupier. What moral code do you follow where the colonized must fight politely while the colonizer slaughters indiscriminately?

As for your question: "Please advise as Israel demands the dismantling of Hamas?"

Let’s be clear: Israel does not want just the dismantling of Hamas—it wants the erasure of all Palestinian resistance, political or militant, religious or secular. It demands silence and submission under occupation. If not Hamas, it would find another excuse. It bombed Gaza in 2008 before Hamas had full control, and it massacres Palestinians in the West Bank daily—where Hamas is not even present.

So here's the advice: stop preaching morality while defending apartheid. A state built on ethnic cleansing, expansionism, and collective punishment has no right to make moral demands. If Israel truly wants peace, let it start by ending its occupation, lifting the siege, and recognizing the humanity of the people it has brutalized for over 75 years.

Until then, resistance—armed or unarmed—is a right, not a crime.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by CreativeOrbit: 11:39pm On Jun 11, 2025
TenQ:
So tell me according to your delusional ignorance and stupidity why Russia has not been able to overrun Ukraine.

Then second largest paper army in the world that want to fight NATO but cannot defeat ordinary Ukraine
Russia’s inability to “overrun” Ukraine isn't proof of weakness — it reflects the complexity of modern warfare, NATO-backed resistance, and strategic limitations. You're ignoring the fact that Ukraine is propped up by billions in military aid, intelligence, and logistics from the West.

This isn’t Russia vs. “ordinary” Ukraine — it’s Russia vs. NATO by proxy.
Christianity EtcRe: If Jesus Is Fully God And Fully Man, Does That Mean God Can Be Ignorant, Hungry, by CreativeOrbit: 7:23am On Jun 05, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The verse churchgoers misconstrued to think Jesus is God has been settled but since all their beliefs is centered on the falsehood of TRINITY they just don't want to reason.

Jesus is NOT God in the sense these people are claiming God's word clearly says Jesus is the prophet who came in the manner of Moses {Deuteronomy 18:18 compared to Act 3:22-23} Moses was God {Exodus 7:1} because he was the first human given supernatural gifts to perform miracles and Jesus is the greatest human given that same power.

Jesus had lived as an angel in heaven before coming to the earth that makes him advanced in existence than any other human {John 8:58} but that he is the Almighty God that's confirmed heresy because he himself begged God to save him from death! Hebrews 5:7

May you have peace! smiley
Thank you for your thoughtful reply and for engaging with the question in a serious manner. I appreciate your distinction between what the Scriptures actually teach and what many church traditions have come to assert — particularly regarding the divinity of Jesus (peace be upon him).

You made several important points, which I would like to address briefly and respectfully, from an Islamic theological standpoint:

🔹 1. Jesus as a Prophet Like Moses (Deut. 18:18)

Indeed, Deuteronomy 18:18 prophesies about a prophet like Moses. We Muslims fully affirm this — and we believe this prophecy finds its ultimate and complete fulfillment not in Jesus, but in Muhammad ﷺ, who, like Moses:

Brought a complete law (Shariah/Torah)

Was born naturally (unlike Jesus’ miraculous birth)

Was a statesman, leader, and lawgiver

Lived a full human life with children and nation-building responsibilities

Jesus (peace be upon him), while greatly honored, had a fundamentally different mission and life — one of calling the Children of Israel back to true monotheism, not to deliver a new comprehensive law or form a political state.

🔹 2. Moses Was "God" in Exodus 7:1?

Exodus 7:1 says:

> "See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh..."

This is clearly metaphorical. The verse uses the phrase "like God" or "as God" — not that Moses was literally God. It simply means he was given authority to speak and act with divine backing, especially in his confrontations with Pharaoh. This linguistic usage does not imply ontological divinity. In fact, the Bible often uses such metaphorical language (e.g., Psalm 82:6 — “You are gods, sons of the Most High,” referring to human judges).

Likewise, being given power to perform miracles does not make one divine. Many prophets were empowered by God to perform miraculous deeds — including Elijah, Elisha, and Moses — yet none were called divine.

🔹 3. Jesus’ Pre-Human Existence (John 8:58)

You mentioned John 8:58 ("Before Abraham was, I am"wink as evidence of Jesus’ pre-existence. However:

Pre-existence does not equal divinity. From the Islamic perspective, all souls exist in a pre-worldly state (see Qur’an 7:172). Even angels pre-exist — yet they are not divine.

The phrase “I am” (Greek: ego eimi) does not necessarily denote Godhood. It can simply be a declaration of existence or role. Context matters, and many scholars argue that Trinitarian interpretation of this phrase reads too much into the text.

🔹 4. Hebrews 5:7 – Jesus Begging God for Help

You rightly noted:

> “During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death...” — Hebrews 5:7

This verse directly undercuts the idea of Jesus being Almighty God. A being who prays, cries, and begs for deliverance is not the One who answers prayers, but the one in need of help. By definition, God does not cry for rescue — He rescues.

🔹 5. Islamic Perspective: Absolute Monotheism (Tawhid)

Islam offers a clear and uncompromising vision of God's nature:

God is One, Unique, Eternal

He does not beget, nor is He begotten (Qur’an 112)

He is not subject to hunger, sleep, weakness, or death (Qur’an 2:255)

Prophets — including Jesus — are honored servants and messengers, not incarnations of God

This clarity avoids the theological dilemma of reconciling divine perfection with human weakness.

🤝 Final Reflection

I truly respect your willingness to challenge mainstream doctrine and look at the scriptures afresh. In that spirit, I gently invite you to consider: if Jesus (peace be upon him) is not Almighty God — as your message suggests — then isn't it time to reassess the entire Trinitarian framework, which is nowhere explicitly taught by Jesus himself?

Islam offers a return to the pure monotheism preached by Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad (peace be upon them all) — to worship the One Creator without intermediaries or divine partners.

May God guide us all to truth and sincerity.
Peace be upon you.

BibleInterpreta TenQ gofh NairaLTQ MaxInDHouse
PoliticsRe: Reno Omokri Shares Video Evidence Debunking Natasha Akpoti’s Sexual Harassment by CreativeOrbit: 8:24pm On Jun 02, 2025
empron:
Always keep evidence,women are dramatic in nature and society favors them.
This evidence need to be kept at the same time?

PoliticsRe: Reno Omokri Shares Video Evidence Debunking Natasha Akpoti’s Sexual Harassment by CreativeOrbit: 11:13am On Jun 02, 2025
I was under the impression that President Tinubu had already appointed Reno Omokri to an official position. If that is indeed the case, why does he continue to conduct himself in such a petty and divisive manner—or has he not formally assumed office yet?

Mr. Omokri has repeatedly demonstrated a lack of interest in engaging with substantive ideas or offering constructive arguments that might contribute to Nigeria’s development. His commentary tends to revolve around personal attacks—most notably against figures like Peter Obi and Natasha Akpoti—rather than focusing on policy initiatives, governance reforms, or national progress.

Furthermore, his political loyalty appears to be purely transactional. Were Atiku Abubakar to win an election tomorrow, is there any real doubt that Mr. Omokri would swiftly redirect his allegiance accordingly? Such inconsistency undermines his credibility and raises serious questions about the sincerity of his convictions.

Let us also not overlook the fact that this is the same individual who has used artificial intelligence tools to fabricate images of himself alongside prominent public figures—an apparent attempt to manufacture relevance. If he is willing to manipulate images for personal gain, one must wonder what else he might be willing to fabricate.

It is high time we begin to assess public commentators not by the volume of their rhetoric, but by the integrity of their principles, the consistency of their values, and the authenticity of their contributions to national discourse.

PoliticsRe: How Nigeria’s ‘renewed Hope’ Agenda Has Become A National Nightmare by CreativeOrbit: 12:00am On May 31, 2025
The question, “Where is the hope?”, is not rhetorical — it is a reflection of a growing national crisis. Two years after the promise of “Renewed Hope,” the socioeconomic indicators tell a consistent story: rising inflation, deepening poverty, weakened institutions, and eroded public confidence.

While reforms may have been necessary, their execution lacked foresight, empathy, and adequate cushioning for the most vulnerable. A vision without planning is not reform — it is disruption. The urgent task now is for the government to shift from rhetoric to results, and to rebuild trust through measurable, inclusive, and people-centered governance.
PoliticsRe: Cash Transfers: $800 Million Down The Drain - Vanguard Editorial by CreativeOrbit: 11:52pm On May 30, 2025
The World Bank’s report confirms widespread concerns over the inefficiency of Nigeria’s Conditional Cash Transfer (CCT) programme. Despite targeting 15 million households, only 5.6 million were reached, and just 37% received any support, highlighting flaws in the implementation and credibility of the social register.

While cash transfers can be effective when transparently managed, Nigeria’s system lacks accountability. Future interventions should focus on sustainable support for small businesses, agriculture, and job creation to ensure long-term economic resilience and reduce dependency.
PoliticsRe: Withdraw Criminal Libel Charge Against Natasha — Falana Tells FG by CreativeOrbit: 10:21am On May 30, 2025
Misterone:
The questions you're asking only shows how ignorant you are. It's only the police that's granted the powers to investigate criminal offenses in Nigeria. Not some so called committee or social media group. The police doesn't have to tell anyone how where and when they carried out their investigation. All they need do is to charge the offender to court after investigation has been carried out. Which they've done in this case. Anyone that have issues with the investigation can join issues or give advise to the defense
Your Misguided Rant on Police Powers

The arrogance in your reply is only matched by your shallow understanding of how justice systems work—both in principle and in practice.

Let’s break it down for your sake:

1. Yes, the Police Investigate — But They’re Not Gods

Saying only the police can investigate crime doesn’t mean their actions are beyond scrutiny. In any sane society, law enforcement is subject to oversight—by the public, the media, the courts, legislative bodies, and civil society. If the Nigerian Police were infallible, we wouldn’t have decades of reports on abuse, bribery, and politically-motivated arrests. So stop acting like questioning them is a crime.

2. Your Understanding of Law is Laughably Basic

You seem to think that once a person is “charged to court,” all questions must stop. That’s nonsense. Asking how an investigation was done, whether due process was followed, or if the arrest smells of political vendetta, is not “ignorance.” It’s called critical thinking—something clearly foreign to you.

3. Committees, Lawyers, Even “Social Media Groups” Have a Role

Oversight can come from anywhere—legislative committees, bar associations, rights groups, even informed citizens on platforms like Nairaland. Trying to shut down public inquiry because you’re obsessed with defending power shows where your loyalties lie—not with justice, but with silence and submission.

4. Insulting People Doesn’t Make You Right

Your attempt to shame others into silence with words like “ignorant” is pathetic. It’s what people do when they run out of facts. If you were so sure the process was sound, you’d welcome questions—not run from them.

Bottom line: Blindly defending police action without accountability is exactly why justice keeps getting hijacked in this country. If you love authority more than truth, say it plainly and stop pretending you’re defending law and order. You’re just enabling impunity—and that’s not intelligent, it’s dangerous.
PoliticsRe: Withdraw Criminal Libel Charge Against Natasha — Falana Tells FG by CreativeOrbit: 8:34pm On May 29, 2025
Misterone:
Are you the police officer that Natasha submitted the petition to? Also, from the write up, it was clearly stated that the allegation of organ trafficking and murder attempt has been investigated and found to be false, hence the charge of criminal defamation. So how do you know that the police has not treated your so called petition!
No, I am not the police officer. And frankly, your attempt to sidestep the core issue with that irrelevant question only reveals your lack of comprehension—or worse, your deliberate attempt to mislead.

You claim the allegations were 'investigated and found to be false.' By whom? When? Where is the independent, publicly verifiable report? Or are you just parroting what you were told without a shred of critical thought? Because in any credible legal system, an investigation's conclusion isn't declared through hearsay or vague write-ups—it's documented and open to scrutiny.

And for your information, if a petition has been properly treated, there is a paper trail. There is acknowledgment, follow-up, and transparency. None of which has been evident in this case. So unless you're in possession of official documents to prove otherwise, you’re just speculating—loudly and ignorantly.

Next time you try to lecture anyone about the status of a petition, bring facts. Not assumptions, not biased conclusions—facts. Until then, save your empty declarations. They carry no weight.
PoliticsRe: Withdraw Criminal Libel Charge Against Natasha — Falana Tells FG by CreativeOrbit: 2:19pm On May 29, 2025
I agree with the position that freedom of speech, including the right to criticize public officials, is a cornerstone of our constitutional democracy and must be protected.

The use of criminal defamation and sedition laws to suppress dissent is both legally and morally indefensible.

It is appropriate that any grievances regarding alleged defamation be addressed through civil proceedings, where the claimant’s reputation can be duly assessed within the bounds of the law.
PoliticsRe: Withdraw Criminal Libel Charge Against Natasha — Falana Tells FG by CreativeOrbit: 12:34pm On May 29, 2025
enambobo:
Just like your mentor Natasha, you lack emotional intelligence. Just look at how triggered you were by my brief comment. Ranting all about and using abusive words instead of having a constructive reply.
You and your mentor should go proof your case in court and stop causing a nuisance in the social space. Stop laying baseless accusations on people in the guise of freedom of speech. Now crawl back to your hole.
Let's be clear: your 'brief comment' was a masterclass in intellectual dishonesty, a feeble attempt to deflect from your own glaring deficiencies by accusing others of what you yourself exemplify.

My 'triggered' response was called justified contempt for your puerile attempt at analysis. You mistake directness for 'abusive words' because your fragile ego cannot withstand any challenge.

The only 'nuisance' is your constant, unsolicited presence in discussions you clearly lack the capacity to comprehend.

Go ahead, run to court with your utterly fallacious claims. We'll be here, continuing to expose the truth while you continue to wallow in your self-imposed ignorance. Now, get lost.
PoliticsRe: Withdraw Criminal Libel Charge Against Natasha — Falana Tells FG by CreativeOrbit: 12:18pm On May 29, 2025
muyico:
This man done lost his value! I respect him no more, he supposed to set aside
Your entire argument collapses under the weight of its own ignorance. If you’re so quick to dismiss someone’s value, it says far more about your lack of discernment than their worth.

Stepping aside? No—men of substance don’t retreat because the uninformed demand it. They stand firm while critics like you drown in shallow opinions.

You’ve forfeited respect, not him. Come back when you have an actual case instead of emotional tantrums.
PoliticsRe: Withdraw Criminal Libel Charge Against Natasha — Falana Tells FG by CreativeOrbit: 12:12pm On May 29, 2025
Misterone:
Oga sir! Only the government have the powers to charge someone for a criminal case. An individual cannot do that. What the individual does is to write a petition or make a complain to the law enforcement agency concern. The agency does it's investigation and takes the case to court.
Oga, before you come online to regurgitate half-digested legal basics, get your facts straight. Yes, only the government can formally charge someone with a criminal case, but you're conveniently skipping the first and most crucial step—the petition. And guess what? Natasha was the first to submit a formal petition to the IGP. She followed due process to the letter, which is more than can be said for the political hypocrites scrambling to cover tracks.

Your statement reads like someone trying to sound informed while missing the entire point. Individuals can't prosecute, yes—but they initiate the process. Natasha didn't just make noise—she took legal action. So don’t lecture us like you’ve uncovered some grand truth. What you’re doing is downplaying the lawful steps she already took, all because it doesn’t fit your biased narrative. Either you’re being willfully ignorant, or you’re just echoing noise with zero comprehension. Pick one.
PoliticsRe: Withdraw Criminal Libel Charge Against Natasha — Falana Tells FG by CreativeOrbit: 12:01pm On May 29, 2025
NwokoloOwa:
I think Falana is just been clever by half, and it so unfortunate.

He never mentioned the issue of plot of assassination presented by Natasha against the Senate President which is a very weighty one.

Falana just sidestepped this criminal allegation by Natasha and chose to yarn nonsense.
Your comment reeks of political ignorance and desperation. Falana isn’t here to pander to your emotionally charged narrative—he operates within the boundaries of the law, not online hysteria. Calling him ‘clever by half’ is laughable coming from someone who clearly doesn’t grasp the difference between an allegation and a legal argument.

Natasha raised a serious claim, yes—but in a lawful society, weighty accusations like assassination plots require evidence and due process, not blind outrage or forced commentary. Falana choosing not to amplify an unproven claim doesn’t mean he’s ‘sidestepping’—it means he’s staying grounded in legal integrity. If you're so concerned, call for an investigation instead of whining that your favorite scandal wasn’t echoed.

What’s truly unfortunate is your inability to separate legal reasoning from cheap political theatre. Until you can tell the difference between a courtroom and a comment section, sit down and stop embarrassing yourself.
PoliticsRe: Withdraw Criminal Libel Charge Against Natasha — Falana Tells FG by CreativeOrbit: 11:55am On May 29, 2025
enambobo:
Natasha don finally shut up. Since she's been ranting up and down. As FG sue am she lock up. That's how to discipline a spoilt child.
So Natasha speaking her truth bothers you that much? Good—it means she struck a nerve. You’re out here cheering like a coward because she went quiet, not realizing that silence isn’t surrender—it’s strategy.

Calling her a ‘spoilt child’ only exposes your weak, bitter ego. She spoke louder, clearer, and braver than you ever could, and all you could do was whine from the sidelines like a pressed spectator.

The fact that you think state intimidation equals discipline says everything about your twisted mindset. She’s not the one being disciplined—you’re just scared of what happens when women like her speak without fear.

Enjoy your little victory lap while it lasts. You’ll be choking on your words the moment she speaks again.
IslamRe: Dear Muslims... Just some Innocent Questions by CreativeOrbit: 11:29am On May 29, 2025
gohf:
the truth you are avoiding which is clearly beyond your reasoning, a obvious simple question that even a toddler will comprehend became a brick wall for you to run into and hopefully knock some sense into you, but instead of sense all you got was offense with the truth.
You keep screaming ‘truth’ like it’s some sacred weapon, but all you’re doing is spitting out overinflated trash wrapped in arrogance.

Your ‘simple question’ is only impressive to you because you clearly lack the capacity for anything deeper. A toddler might understand it—because it’s infantile, just like your logic.

You mistake my refusal to entertain your nonsense as confusion, when in reality, it’s pity. You're not insightful—you’re insufferable.

You’re not provoking thought—you’re begging for attention in the loudest, most embarrassing way possible.

You didn’t offend me—you exposed yourself as a clown swinging wildly in a conversation that left you behind long ago.
IslamRe: Dear Muslims... Just some Innocent Questions by CreativeOrbit: 11:39pm On May 28, 2025
gohf:
lol read what you wrote and read this, from the same Moses and God Muhammad and Quran try to associate with

Deut.7.5 Here's what you are to do: Tear apart their altars stone by stone, smash their phallic pillars, chop down their sex-and-religion Asherah groves, set fire to their carved god-images.
Deut.7.25 "You must burn their idols in fire, and do not desire the silver or gold with which they are made. Do not take it or it will become a snare to you, for it is detestable to the LORD your God.

Deut.12.2 Destroy completely all the places on the high mountains and on the hills and under every spreading tree where the nations you are dispossessing worship their gods.

So are you telling us the same God that commands people to destroy what's use to worship idols, let you all keep the kabba and black stone to worship him through it?

Please explain why, because it's not our fault for associating Allah to Hubal, blame that on those who still use the kabba and the black stone. Do explain why the kabba and the black stone??
I don’t waste my time engaging with people who clearly lack the mental capacity to grasp even the simplest concepts. No matter how thoroughly or patiently you try to explain, it’s like talking to a brick wall—absolutely pointless. Some minds are just too far gone to reason with. I’m done. Goodbye.
IslamRe: Dear Muslims... Just some Innocent Questions by CreativeOrbit: 9:55pm On May 28, 2025
TenQ:
Instead of giving answers to the questions, you this repeatedly repeating your standard islamic narrative will sweep it out of existence.

Why is it difficult stating the names of the daughters of Hubal? Didn't Muslim historians write about Hubal?

The truth is bitter!
Muslims generally do not appreciate the truth
Spare me the hypocritical moralizing. If the 'truth is bitter,' then why do your fellow Christians so often twist it into lies to suit their agendas? You want to talk about rejecting truth? Look at your own house first—fraught with corruption, cover-ups, and fabricated piety. Muslims don’t fear truth; we challenge those who weaponize hypocrisy like you. So take your sanctimonious garbage elsewhere—your own scripture warns against bearing false witness, yet here you are, doing exactly that. Pathetic.

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