Crysthaniel:
The meaning of These Bible verses is connected by Jesus himself read John 14:4-31
Jehovah gave Jesus These Authorities
also please read John 13:3
and in due time Jesus will return These Authorities back to Jehovah please read 1 Corinthians 15:27-28


But you have not answered my question about How Acts 4:24-30 shows that Jesus is the almighty
or why did Jesus teach His followers pray to our father in the Heaven if he's the one Matt 6:9
also try open to John 16:28 and ask your self can Jesus made this statement if really he was God?

the Bottom line is dat Jesus is The way, Jehovah is the destination..
any one that believe in the ransom sacrifice of Jesus will be saved by Jehovah.. in fact if you can research, Jesus name literally means 'Jehovah is salvation'
read 1 Timothy 2:5 Hebrews 9:14-15

See this?

The meaning of These Bible verses is connected by Jesus himself read John 14:4-31
Jehovah gave Jesus These Authorities
also please read John 13:3
and in due time Jesus will return These Authorities back to Jehovah please read 1 Corinthians 15:27-28


But you have not answered my question about How Acts 4:24-30 shows that Jesus is the almighty
or why did Jesus teach His followers pray to our father in the Heaven if he's the one Matt 6:9
also try open to John 16:28 and ask your self can Jesus made this statement if really he was God?

the Bottom line is dat Jesus is The way, Jehovah is the destination..
any one that believe in the ransom sacrifice of Jesus will be saved by Jehovah.. in fact if you can research, Jesus name literally means 'Jehovah is salvation'
read 1 Timothy 2:5 Hebrews 9:14-15

dainformant:
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Haaah Bad markrtt

OneJ:



Abeg make una ask this mumu brained fellow na who be him "Jesus-YAHWEH "?
johnw47, do U now see how your mumu brain works?

Bro Abeg leave them Jare make them read Acts 4:24-30
Make them see How The apostles addresses Jehovah and Jesus
as well as 2peter 1:16-18
any sincere honest Hearted one will see that Jesus was a subject to Jehovah and everything Jesus become is given to him by Jehovah His father and Jesus Will eventually return these Glory to Jehovah 1corinthians 15:24-28

OneJ:



Abeg make una ask this mumu brained fellow na who be him "Jesus-YAHWEH "?
johnw47, do U now see how your mumu brain works?

Brother
Make they Explain Acts 4:24-30
How it come happen that someone's servant is that same person
or why did Jesus say we should pray to our father in The heavens if he is the one.

johnw47:


ha ha there are not two god's, mighty god and almighty god as you false jw's believe



mighty God and almighty God are titles-names for the one true God, who is God and the Word


YAHWEH is almighty God:
Exo_6:3  And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

YAHWEH is mighty God:
Psa_50:1  A Psalm of Asaph. The mighty God, even the LORD, hath spoken, and called the earth from the rising of the sun unto the going down thereof.



Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.



but alas false jw's doesn't believe God's word and gives it false meaning

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Psalms 50:1 should not be a confusion nah.. It's simple every other title eg ' mighty one' is still applicable to Jehovah but Almighty God only applies to him .. No where in The Bible was Jesus addressed as the Almighty ..
using this verse to support the Trinity doctrine is wrong

johnw47:
antichrists TATIME and Crysthaniel

here is more of God's word for you to hate and not believe
showing that the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is God


Jesus is Lord and God:
Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

^^^ of course you false jw's change this and other of God's word to suit your false beliefs 


Father calls Jesus God:
Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

david calls both Father and Jesus God, and shows that Father is the God of Jesus
which false jw cannot understand and are blinded to, and so just don't believe it:

Psa 45:6  Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. 
Psa 45:7  Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

^^^ Father and Jesus is God, just like john 1:1 and elsewhere says

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 

you false jw are truly blinded not to see it, but worse than blinded you try and explain it all to mean something else,
but thats your daddy satan for you:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

John 20:28

In answer Thomas said to him: “My Lord and my God!”

My Lord and my God!: Lit., “The Lord of me and the God [ho the·osʹ] of me!” Some scholars view this expression as an exclamation of astonishment spoken to Jesus but actually directed to God, his Father. Others claim that the original Greek requires that the words be viewed as being directed to Jesus. Even if this is so, the intent of the expression “my Lord and my God” is best understood in the context of the rest of the inspired Scriptures. Since the record shows that Jesus had previously sent his disciples the message, “I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God,” there is no reason to believe that Thomas thought that Jesus was the almighty God. John 20:17 compare John 16:28

Thomas had heard Jesus pray to his “Father,” calling him “the only true God.” (Joh 17:1-3) So Thomas may have addressed Jesus as “my God” for the following reasons: He viewed Jesus as being “a mighty God” though not the almighty God. which Jehovah made this happen Isaiah 9:6-7 Or he may have addressed Jesus in a manner similar to the way that servants of God addressed angelic messengers of Jehovah, as recorded in the Hebrew Scriptures. Thomas would have been familiar with accounts in which individuals, or at times the Bible writer of the account, responded to or spoke of an angelic messenger as though he were Jehovah God. (Compare Ge 16:7-11, 13; 18:1-5, 22-33; 32:24-30;Jg 6:11-15; 13:20-22.) Therefore, Thomas may have called Jesus “my God” in this sense, acknowledging Jesus as the representative and spokesman of the true God.

Hebrews 1:8
to have a complete understanding you have to read verse 9 you Will see that it is Jehovah His father that anointed him to be King of God's kingdom so it doesn't imply that Jesus is called the almighty God but what it meant is that ''God is Your Throne'' so you can compare what Isaiah 9:6-7 mattew 28:18 Revelation 3:21 1corinthians 15:24-28 says

johnw47:


false jw crysthaniel, you false jw's also lie and say that Jesus did not rise from the dead in the same body he died in

however Jesus said He would raise His boby:
Joh 2:19  Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 
Joh 2:20  Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? 
Joh 2:21  But he spake of the temple of his body.

Joh 20:24  But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. 
Joh 20:25  The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. 
Joh 20:26  And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 
Joh 20:27  Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 
Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
Joh 20:29  Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.  

but of course satans mob do not believe God and point to other verses that they also don't understand or believe the truth of


Jesus was raised in the same but glorified immortal body that died, just as all christians who have died will be raised in their glorified immortal bodies. christians that is, not false jw's

and those christians still alive will have their bodies changed to glorified immortal bodies

1Co 15:51  Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 
1Co 15:52  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 
1Co 15:53  For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 

1Th 4:15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 
1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 
1Th 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

About Jesus resurrection read Colossians 1:18 1pet3:18 and 1corinthians 15:50
However, for 40 days after his resurrection Jesus appeared to his disciples on different occasions in various fleshly bodies, just as angels had appeared to men of ancient times. Like those angels, he had the power to construct and to disintegrate those fleshly bodies at will, for the purpose of proving visibly that he had been resurrected. (Mt 28:8-10, 16-20; Lu 24:13-32, 36-43; Joh 20:14-29; Ge 18:1, 2; 19:1; Jos 5:13-15; Jg 6:11, 12; 13:3, 13

about you saying that Jehovah's witnesses are Satans children but you seff think am read Isaiah 43:10-12
we bearing the name of the most high, how is it possible that we are now Satans children..I still don't understand why people Will think like this..
what I noticed is that you guys May have not even associate with us or even approached us at all ..what you hear you speak without having the facts. John 7:24

johnw47:


confused twisting-lying false jw cry, the Word had a beginning separate from God, not the Word had a beginning

God didn't create the Word as you lie and say, He bought Him forth from Himself,
the Word is of God's own Spirit, God is a Spirit, God and the Word is God

you will never understand that, and deservedly so for antichrists who call Christ "a god" hence "a false god"


the main thing you false jw's have in common is that you lie, lie, lie



false jw cry, you don't believe the truth when you read it:





oh duh, of course the spirit of the Lord was on Jesus Christ

let me add:
Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Explain the verses now..
Explain Acts 4 : 24-30
let's reason on How Peter and The apostles addresses Jehovah and his anointed servant Jesus

johnw47:





oh duh cry

1.john1:18
Joh 1:18  No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

the Word(a spirit is God) He became flesh(the Son of God)
people saw the man(Son) they never saw the Spirit(God)


proverbs 8:22-36
tells of when there was nothing but God, God bought forth wisdom-the Word from Himself
the Word had a beginning seperate from God, but being God's Spirit He always existed in God
God and the Word is God.

now go and see if you can understand the other verses by yourself,
ha, of course you cannot but to bad for you, i don't help antichrists,
i give a little for the benefit of others reading

The word has a separate beginning from God How come then the word became God.. or you don't read verse 22 and 30 ?
the word Jesus has a beginning in fact according to the verse 22 Jehovah made Jesus first before other Creation verse 23
But Jehovah didn't have a beginning .. The Almighty
'the beginning is a Time' or the start of time as we know it
what about the other scriptures you can continue now let's hear what you have to say..
let me add Luke 4:18 join

OneJ:


Mumu post from a mumu brain.

Greek theos means "god", "goddess" or "God"
. No difference.
.The manuscripts rendition is in lowercase letters, not capital letters in the new testament (NT).

"theos " = god is very correct.
It is the Bible translators who placed big letter "God" in the NT.
In the Greek manuscripts, Acts 12:22 ("..voice of god", Acts 28:6 ("he was god" , John 1:1c ("and god was the word".
Check any English Bible, (except NWT, Sahidic Coptic Bible & a few others) none of them used " god" in John 1:1c.

In John 1:1c , "and a god was the word" is very correct in as much as Acts 12:22(KJV) "voice of god" was translated as "voice of a god".
For the same reason that Acts28: 6(KJV) "he was god" was translated as. "he was a god"

Mumu brain dey deceive himself & him mumu doctrine crew.
Them no know say theos is god, goddess.
God ,god or goddess na the something for Greek language.

Bro Abeg leave then alone.. anyone that claims that John 1:1 meant that Jesus is God should explain these Bible verses
1.john1:18
2.proverbs 8:22-36
3.john 3:16
4.john 7:15-16
5.john 8:28-29
6.john 13:3
7.john 14:28
8.john 16:28
9.john 20:17
10.Acts 4:24-30

Even if you can Wikipedia the John 1:1 you Will see that earlier translators render Jesus as a god because
1.He came from Heaven John 3:13 this is correct because Satan is also called the 'god of this system of things' coz him too came from Heaven 2corinthians 4:4 , Revelation 12:9
2.jesus is also exalted to a position that is even higher than what he was formally ..So many things that Jehovah has entrusted him to handle please read 1corintians 15:20-28

PharmaGirl:
So what's the observation? That the pythons enter the sky or what? I don't understand.

me too don't understand nau. I be God?

OneJ:


Crysthaniel , that man "hairyranpunzel" was disfellowshipped from the Christian congregation of Jehovah's witnesses.
He is an apostate. Number 16:1-3,20-27
1 cor 5:1-3,9-13.
Pls take note.

oooh...I perceived that thanks Bro
#adjustedmyself

Hairyrapunzel:


Please where did the bible say the fresh receivers don't transfer them to others in the Bible?

At the end of the day the bible never mentions your beliefs you have to assume to arrive at the conclusion you make.
You are not even sure of you beliefs. You are even ashamed to quote this bible passage.


9 Now for some time a man named Simon had practiced sorcery in the city and amazed all the people of Samaria. He boasted that he was someone great, 10 and all the people, both high and low, gave him their attention and exclaimed, “This man is rightly called the Great Power of God.” 11 They followed him because he had amazed them for a long time with his sorcery. 12 But when they believed Philip as he proclaimed the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. 13 Simon himself believed and was baptized. And he followed Philip everywhere, astonished by the great signs and miracles he saw.

14 When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to Samaria. 15 When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16 because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

18 When Simon saw that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money 19 and said, “Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”

20 Peter answered: “May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money! 21 You have no part or share in this ministry, because your heart is not right before God. 22 Repent of this wickedness and pray to the Lord in the hope that he may forgive you for having such a thought in your heart. 23 For I see that you are full of bitterness and captive to sin.”

24 Then Simon answered, “Pray to the Lord for me so that nothing you have said may happen to me.”

25 After they had further proclaimed the word of the Lord and testified about Jesus, Peter and John returned to Jerusalem, preaching the gospel in many Samaritan villages.


IT'S LIKE YOU GUYS IN THAT SCAM YOU CALL RELIGION HATE QUOTING BIBLE PASSAGES. READ AND UNDERSTAND THE PASSAGE.

YOU THINK YOU CAN THINK FOR THE BIBLE. YOU EVEN HAVE TO THINK FOR PAUL, PETER AND THE EARLY CHRISTIANS. WHAT THEY DIDN'T SAY AND DIDN'T DO YOU ASSUME THEY SAID AND DID IT

what else can I say .. that account shows clearly that it is the first apostles that directly share with others The gift by laying their hands on them ...
if that's not true ni.. that simon would not have offered money to receive it..and Peter rebuked him..
it's different from nowadays that people will be trying to get miraculous gifts by shouting on top of their voices for something that they don't need.

Hairyrapunzel:


Be quoting Noah's day. When they ask you to show us where the bible said joining an organization called watchtower aka a publishing company/business corporation will lead to salvation now you will start speaking another language

Why do you guys even think of people perishing? Somebody will just stay and be thinking about impending destruction of human beings and talking about Noah's day.
You think all these your thinking about mass slaughter will scare us?

You new system will drink for a long time of dead bodies. You will end up suffering from post traumatic stress disorder.

Your only hope and wish is for a day like Noah's day to come? You go wait tire. Well, your dead founding fathers eg taze, Rutherford, knorr, Franz and the dead governing body members have been waiting for over 140years because of the delusion that your sky daddy will come slaughter all non jws just like Noah's day.

we should remember that it's Jesus that made these statements as regards to noah's day.. if its not going to be that way he would not have say something like that

And as regards of Organization.. Yes every one needs to be in Jehovah's arrangement or organization to be saved.. Jehovah has been and continues choosing people from all corners of the earth to be his -bearing his name, yes a people for his name.. Please read Isaiah 43:6-13 a vital prophecy was written by Isaiah and acts 15:14 in connection also Amos 9:11-12.. The work is currently going on now until Jehovah said its done.. You can go to our website www.jw.org for more answers you gonna like it just try

Hairyrapunzel:


Tell us where the bible said that the gift of performing miracles ended with the first century Christians. Till then your religion is the biggest scam on earth.

Scamming 8 million people that the world will soon end as 8billion will be slaughtered by their Jehovah so 8 million people will take over because they belong to watchtower and follow governing body bible misinterpretation is the biggest lie ever told to anybody. See who they call pastors scammers na him dey for inside the scam.

Acts8:5-7 and verses 14-17 the gifts were transferred to other believers directly by placing their hands on them acts8;18 and these fresh receivers don't transfer them to other in the bible.. So when they all died the gift have already accomplished its work

Regarding scam remember what Jesus said at matt24:37-38
Can you see a connection in the number of people saved in noah's day with those who perish? All the same Jehovah does not even desire any to perish 2pet3:9 just serve the true God Jehovah and meditate on his name mal3;16. Jehovah’s witnesses can assist you

Yes.. There are miracles for sure in the past and this provides evidence of Gods backing of Jesus Christ and the first century Christians Ex4;1- 9 John 9: 17 Hebrews 2:3-4 but in time, selected gifts will pass away 1cor13:8-11 including miraculous gifts

In reading the history of the Acts of Apostles, we see that Jehovah’s spirit was working mightily, speedily, forming congregations, getting Christianity firmly established. ( Ac 4:4; chaps 13, 14, 16-19 ) In the few short years between 33 and 70 C.E., thousands of believers were gathered in many congregations from Babylon to Rome, and perhaps even farther west. ( 1Pe 5:13; Ro 1:1, 7; 15:24 ) It is worthy of note that copies of the Scriptures then were few. Usually only the well-to-do possessed scrolls or books of any sort. In pagan lands there was no knowledge of the Bible or the God of the Bible, Jehovah. Virtually everything had to be done by word of mouth. There were no Bible commentaries, concordances, and encyclopedias readily at hand. So the miraculous gifts of special knowledge, wisdom, speaking in tongues, and discernment of inspired utterances were vital for the congregation then. ( 1Co 12:4-11, 27-31 ) But, as the apostle Paul wrote, when those things were no longer needed, they would pass away.

A Different Situation Today. We do not see God performing such miracles by the hands of his Christian servants today, because all needed things are present and available to the literate population of the world, and to help those who cannot read but who will listen, there are mature Christians who have knowledge and wisdom gained by study and experience. It is not necessary for God to perform such miracles at this time to attest to Jesus Christ as God’s appointed deliverer, or to provide proof that He is backing up His servants. Even if God were to continue to give his servants the ability to perform miracles, that would not convince everyone, for not even all the eyewitnesses of Jesus’ miracles were moved to accept his teachings. ( Joh 12:9-11 ) On the other hand, scoffers are warned by the Bible that there will yet be stupendous acts of God performed in the destruction of the present system of things.​— 2Pe 3:1-10; Re chaps 18, 19 .
In conclusion, it may be said that either those who deny the existence of miracles do not believe there is an invisible God and Creator or they believe that he has not exercised his power in any superhuman way since creation. But their unbelief does not make the Word of God of no effect. ( Ro 3:3, 4 ) The Biblical accounts of God’s miracles and the good purpose that they accomplished, always in harmony with the truths and principles found in his Word, instill confidence in God. They give strong assurance that God cares for mankind and that he can and will protect those who serve him. The miracles provide typical patterns, and the record of them builds faith that God will, in the future, intervene in a miraculous way, healing and blessing faithful humankind.​— Re 21:4 .
Jehovah’s witnesses believe that Jehovah do perform miracles but as far as this present world is concerned, miracles is no longer an evidence of Jesus disciples john13:35
Jesus told his disciples that they would do works 100times more than he do now look- Jesus ressurect the dead who have done 100times that?
He opened the blind eye who have done 100times that?
Turned water to wine who has done 100times that
And so on
But Jesus also declared the Good news luke4:18-21 we Jehovah’s witnesses no doubt are happy that Jehovah has given us the strength � and privilege to attain this feat even at great exponential rate mal3:16 acts 15:14 Matt 28:19-20

LadySarah:
Pythons kwa Maybe just maybe,what is happening in Nigeria has gotten heaven tired For all of them praying for Angels to blow the trumpet.

LOLZZ Angels have already blown their trumpets.. Long time ago..

PharmaGirl:

Pythons are not the cause of rainbows � oga.
Rainbows are caused by the reflection and refraction and splitting of light into it's component colours by droplets of water.
The second rainbow you're seeing, was reflected two times inside the droplets of water. Or you could say it was re-reflected...and it's called double rainbow.
You saw a double rainbow.

It's a beautiful sight BTW.

True but to be sincere am developing some form of faith that the Python � theory maybe true
1.the reflection of white light of the sun in droplets of water in the sky � truly may occur but why is it always an arc? And its always perfectly round and always magnificent
2. The location of rainbows is usually places where rivers is always found -habitat of Pythons
3.rainbows don't usually last long even though there are still clouds in the sky..

I don't want to form a kind of argument coz we are all thought in school as to how rainbows are formed but this is just an observation jare

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Someone told me that it was pythons that actually cause rainbows.. And seeing this was interesting... About the theory

johnw74:


Jesus flesh body died, Jesus in Spirit(the Word) can not die, "and the Word was God"



Mat 9:2  And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee. 

Mat 9:6  But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house. 




yes Father and Son are two persons, duh, and they are one God,
try believing the verses i have already posted showing that God is one,
and that the Father and the son are one, of course you won't understand without God's Spirit
but that's the path you have chosen.

you don't believe the verses posted showing that Jesus is God,
but of course false jw don't believe God, and here is some more verses showing that Jesus is God:

Jehovah
Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Jesus
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

....

Jehovah
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

....

Jehovah
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Incidentally, see at Deut 17:14 God is referred to as a mighty God, and we know that God is also referred to as Almighty God, they are not two gods, a mighty god and an almighty God as false jw say.

....

Jehovah
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus
Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
Rev 1:12  And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Rev 1:13  And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.


....

Jehovah
Psa 130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Jesus
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

....

Jehovah
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

....

Jehovah
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Jesus
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

long time friend
Please read 1corinthians15 verse 23-29
Also about the alpha and omega issue for Jehovah's case he is the only true the first and the last True God of all of us Psalms 90:2 from Everlasting to Everlasting also Isaiah 44:6 but for Jesus case Jesus can be also referred to as an alpha and omega at Revelation 1:​17, 18 and2:8. In these verses, the context shows that the one referred to died and later returned to life. Thus, these verses cannot refer to God because he has never died. (Habakkuk 1:​12) However, Jesus died and was resurrected. (Acts 3:​13-​15) He was the first human to be resurrected to immortal spirit life in heaven, where he now lives “forever and ever.” (Revelation 1:​18; Colossians 1:​18) Jesus is the one who performs all resurrections thereafter. (John 6:​40, 44) Therefore, he was the last one to be resurrected directly by Jehovah. (Acts 10:40) In this sense, Jesus can properly be called “the First and the Last.”

+why does life only come from previous life only?

+why is there no way to form complex genetic code by chance?

+why do fossils record shows only sudden appearance of complex life in great variety?
With no linking forms?

+why are small mutations harmful, large ones lethal. Not resulting in anything new?

+why civilization appears only with man?

+why do language contemporaneous with man, ancient ones often more complex than modern?

+why is it that oldest written records dated back to only about 5000years

Read Hebrews 3:4
Why do many flowers have signposts to guide insects to the hidden nectar?

+look at what all things human have made like airplanes compass light bulbs, clocks, electricity Etc ask yourself who did it first? Where do the knowledge came from? From nature or from chance?

True but can we compare those animals qualities with our own even a 5years old child?

Okay. Why is such a huge gulf between us and the animals we may have evolved from?
1.we love
2.we are spiritual
3.justice
4.mercy
5.power
6.wisdom

1.why do humans have to create everything they have made, without waiting for them to exist spontaneously

2.And in creating these, why do they copy nature examples airplane from birds train from millipedes etc

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brocab:
I am glad you aren't forcing me, bro, you are not seeing the picture, because you don't have the Spirit to see it, No-one is insulting anybody, if you are expecting people to listen to you, then at least come up with facts not fiction.
I have travelled to the darkest side of the moon, and I found Kingdom hall is planted smack in the middle of it all;
I have witnessed the truth to the lost sheep around every corner, and there's no other truth that could be found, other then the written Word of God.
You brother need saving, you need to turn your ways, away from your self loved life, and turn for Christ, because your kingdom hall will keep you walking the highways blinded, and you will never find the narrow road, you will never see Christ, nor will you ever know Christ to be your Lord and savour.

Thanks bro

brocab:
What happened to you bro, are you searching for love, what made you disbelieve in the truth? If you are looking for answers read the bible.
I have written down the Word of God, and still you refuse it, do yourself a favor, test the spirit, do you know God speaks to us through the bible, did you know flesh wars against the Spirit, and you brother are warring against the Word of God, you are trying to work the scriptures out through your mind, the mind can only work so far, while the Spirit can work much further.
Brother you need to become a born again believer before you can understand the Spirit of the Lord, Jesus said< one must be born of water and the spirit before he can enter into the kingdom of God {John 3:5}
As a man Jesus can forgive sins against Him, Jesus asked the Father to forgive them, Just like we do, we forgive those who sinned against us, we pray to the Father as men.
If you were to read {Matthew 10:28} Do not be afraid of those who can kill the body, but cannot kill the soul. So your answer to this question is "No the Spirit can not die..
It shows you haven't any interest to learn the scriptures, Emmanuel was born to save the world.
This scripture>I and the Father are one, is taken out in a Spiritual term, it is impossible for two fleshly men to become one, but it isn't impossible for one man and one Spirit to become one. God said let Us make man in our image, We are all made, man and "soul..
{Leviticus 26:11-12} 'Moreover, I will make My dwelling among you, and My soul will not reject you. I will also walk among you and be your God, and you shall be My people.
Don't forget no-one has seen God at any time, because God is Spirit, and the Spirit of God walked among us.
{John 1:14} And Jesus was made flesh and walked among us.
Did you know Jesus never worked alone, He seed was God's seed, He relied upon the Father everything He said and done, "Jesus was given authority from the beginning, before Abraham was born I am, Jesus had all power to be God.
As a man He claimed God is His Father, and God said to Him, your throne O God is forever and forever {Hebrews 1:8} God called Jesus His God, And yet In {Isaiah 42:8} God won't give His glory to another.
This makes so much sense-if God doesn't share Himself with another, then God's glory belongs to Himself, and God Himself lived among men in the flesh? So Emmanuel became a man just to save us sinners.

Yes as a man we are tempted, if you bow down to me, I will give you all these kingdoms, and Jesus said: get behind Me Satan, you shall worship the Lord your God and Him only you shall serve..Jesus showed Satan, He has the authority in heaven and on earth.
Not Satan.
Satan picked on Jesus as a man alone in the desert, this is how Satan works, Satan test God's people everyday, how many of us actually walk on the highways, and not on the narrow, are we growing in Christ, by their fruit we will know them.
Just in Jesus's name is full of power, no-one can cast out the demonic without Jesus's name. Satan tempted Him and had failed..

All you do is abuse we jehovah's witnesses bro..

I hope that you finally come to know the truth about this... Ai cannot force you bro..

brocab:
Maybe, but it's always good to have the helping hand.Plus the JW's are flocking in from all directions.

Think about this.. JESUS died while on earth... Can God Almighty die?? And shortly before dying he said that the father should forgive his enemies means that only father can forgive sins... If Jesus is God now can this things happen?? Also remember that model prayer at Matt 6.. Jesus prayed that his father's name in the heaven be sanctified.. If Jesus is now God, will he pray at all

The verse John 1:1 note very well first said was with God.. Meaning there are 2 up there not 1.. Now coming to say that the word was God is not a fact but translators let their belief shadow their rendition...

Also I and my father are one.. Note THIS very well means that at least there are two.. The father and son.. And what do you think can you say that you and your father are the Same NO? but you are one in sense that you bear the same characters and always are in one team which yr father is the Head coach... And as an obedient child you always act in accordance with your father's instructions...
Note John 1:14 says that
So the Word became flesh and
resided among us, and we had a view of
his glory, a glory such as belongs to an
only-begotten son from a father; and
he was full of divine favor and truth. ... 2 things to consider here are 1 only begotten son. 2.full of divine favor.. What do you think about this verses in connection with John 1:1? Do you now see that there is translation error?
The bottom line is that Jehovah and his Son, Jesus, worked closely
together for billions of years before the heavens
and the earth were created. They must have
loved each other very much! ( John 3:35; 14:31 )
Jesus imitated his father’s qualities so well that
the Bible calls him “the image of the invisible
God.”​—Colossians 1:15 ....

What happened was that Jehovah’s precious Son was willing to leave
heaven and be born on earth as a human. How
was that possible? Jehovah miraculously
transferred his Son’s life from heaven to the
womb of a virgin named Mary. In this way, Jesus
did not need to have a human father. So Mary
gave birth to a perfect son, and she called him
Jesus.​— Luke 1:30-35 ... Please read this verses Luke 4:1-11
1. Then Jesus was led by the spirit up
into the wilderness to be tempted by
the Devil. After he had fasted for
40 days and 40 nights, he felt hungry.
And the Tempter approached and
said to him: “If you are a son of God, tell
these stones to become loaves of bread.”
But he answered: “It is written: ‘Man
must live, not on bread alone, but on
every word that comes from Jehovah’s
mouth.’”
Then the Devil took him along into
the holy city, and he stationed him on
the battlement of the temple
and said to him: “If you are a son of
God, throw yourself down, for it is
written: ‘He will give his angels a
command concerning you,’ and, ‘They
will carry you on their hands, so that you
may not strike your foot against a
stone.’” Jesus said to him: “Again
it is written: ‘You must not put
Jehovah your God to the test.’”
Again the Devil took him along to
an unusually high mountain and showed
him all the kingdoms of the world and
their glory. And he said to him:
“All these things I will give you if you fall
down and do an act of worship to me.”
Then Jesus said to him: “Go away,
Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah
your God you must worship, and it is
to him alone you must render sacred
service.’” Then the Devil left
him, and look! angels came and began
to minister to him

Bottom line if Jesus is God can Satan EVEN DARE TO TEMPT Him?? Also note Jesus replies in obedience to jehovah his father...

brocab:
These are the many verses I have laid out on this page-as a sign to prove JW's are not even Christian, but a false religion against Christ, and the Father that is in Christ. Lets put it to the test-how many JW's actually believes these verses exist, do they believe in Hell fire? Do they believe Jesus has power to caste them into the outer darkness "Hell fire if they don't repent.
And Jesus is the One true God and everlasting life. {John 17:3}
{Revelation 21:8} But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
JW's believe those who have been caste out of there Church, are the disobedient God will condemn. Marriages have been separated families have been torn apart from mothers without children and husbands without wife, because the JW's believe they are God's chosen, and God punishes those who disagrees with their watchtowers kingdom.
{Matthew 25:41} “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
{Matthew 25:46} And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
{Matthew 10:28} And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
{Romans 6:23} For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
JW's don't believe we are saved through Christ-only Jehovah can save you.
{Romans 2:6-8} He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury.
JW's believe only their works will give them life with father Jehovah.
{2 Thessalonians 1:9} They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might,
JW's believes God won't punished His people the JW's, but punish those who aren't JW's on Earth..
{Mark 9:43} And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire.
{Revelation 20:15} And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
{Jude 1:7} Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.
{John 3:36} Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.
{Luke 16:19-31} “There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried, and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. ...
{Mark 9:48} ‘where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.’
{2 Peter 2:4} For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment;
{Revelation 20:14} Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.
{Revelation 14:11} And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”
{Matthew 23:33} You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?
{Luke 16:24} And he called out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.’
{John 3} “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
JW's don't believe Jesus Christ have the authority to give life, only Jehovah can give life and save.
{Revelation 2:11} He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who conquers will not be hurt by the second death.’
{1 Timothy 5:8} But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
{1 Corinthians 15:26} The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
{1 Peter 3:19} In which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison,
{James 4:7}Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
These are just the few the JW's don't believe in.

I appreciate your effort bro.... Please endeavor to contact jw members in your area face to face and ask them questions about the matter i have done my part.... Note at John 14:28 Jesus said his father is greater than he is....
Waht else can i say brother? Please my watsapp 08175893693 ... Remember Matthew 7:14 says narrow is the way to life only few will EVER find it..

[quote author=Crysthaniel post=63013722 (God is Spirit, and His Spirit the Holy
Spirit was in Christ and Christ in the Father at
the same time.) What you write here is not possible brother let's be true to ourselves...

Christ can'not be in the father because there were instances that jehovah(the father) spoke directly from heaven concerning the approval of his son both at baptism and even in the transfiguration Luke 3:22, Matt 17:5 one thing to note from this two occurrences was that Jesus was already filled with the Holy Spirit before the Father declared from heaven so we can say that the father and son are different...

Remember Jesus words 'am the WAY the TRUTH and LIFE no one comes to the father except through me John 14:6 what comes to mind 1 or 2? [/quote]


Also remember the Bible made it clear that God is the head of christ 1 Corinthian 11:3