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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Crysthaniel(m): 9:35pm On Dec 05, 2017

[quote author=Crysthaniel post=63013722 (God is Spirit, and His Spirit the Holy
Spirit was in Christ and Christ in the Father at
the same time.) What you write here is not possible brother let's be true to ourselves...

Christ can'not be in the father because there were instances that jehovah(the father) spoke directly from heaven concerning the approval of his son both at baptism and even in the transfiguration Luke 3:22, Matt 17:5 one thing to note from this two occurrences was that Jesus was already filled with the Holy Spirit before the Father declared from heaven so we can say that the father and son are different...

Remember Jesus words 'am the WAY the TRUTH and LIFE no one comes to the father except through me John 14:6 what comes to mind 1 or 2?[/quote]Also remember the Bible made it clear that God is the head of christ 1 Corinthian 11:3

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Crysthaniel(m): 8:51pm On Dec 05, 2017*

brocab:
Now I see you are a JW, had you notice, the scripture says no-one had seen God at anytime, because God is Spirit, and His Spirit the Holy Spirit was in Christ and Christ in the Father at the same time.
I" and the Father are one.. Those who believe in Christ, are connected to Him in Word and in truth.
We preach what, Jesus preached.
Have you actually read {John 17:3-8} Verse 5 and now O Father glorify Me with Yourself, with the Glory I had with You before the world was.
Have you not read {Isaiah 42:8} I am the Lord that is My name, and My Glory will I not give to another.
And Jesus is praying this to the Father, Glorify Me with Yourself, like I was before time began.

Now I see you are a JW, had you notice, the
scripture says no-one had seen God at anytime,
because(God is Spirit, and His Spirit the Holy
Spirit was in Christ and Christ in the Father at
the same time.) What you write here is not possible brother let's be true to ourselves...

Christ can'not be in the father because there were instances that jehovah(the father) spoke directly from heaven concerning the approval of his son both at baptism and even in the transfiguration Luke 3:22, Matt 17:5 one thing to note from this two occurrences was that Jesus was already filled with the Holy Spirit before the Father declared from heaven so we can say that the father and son are different...

Remember Jesus words 'am the WAY the TRUTH and LIFE no one comes to the father except through me John 14:6 what comes to mind 1 or 2?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Crysthaniel(m): 11:45pm On Dec 04, 2017

brocab:
Please try writing on your own page..

please i don't know how am new to nairaland... Please how can I write on my page?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Crysthaniel(m): 11:37pm On Dec 04, 2017

[quote author=Crysthaniel post=62986737][/quote]This is not what about jehovah witnesses says.. We say according to the Bible... Note John 1:18 says NO MAN AS SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME.. also 1john 4:12says the same.. Jesus is not God but jehovah's first ever creation.. Colosians 1:15

Also shortly before his death Jesus made some declarations in John 17:3-8 please endeavor to read this Bible portion..

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Crysthaniel(m): 11:20pm On Dec 04, 2017

[quote author=Crysthaniel post=62986673]Jesus’ opposers accused him of making himself
equal to God. ( John 5:18; 10:30-33 ) However,
Jesus never claimed to be on the same level as
Almighty God. He said: “The Father is greater
than I am.”— John 14:28 . Jesus never called him self God it's the scribes and pharises that accused him of him (Jesus saying that he is God) so they plan to kill him

] On his final night as a
human, Jesus told his disciples: “If you ask the
Father for anything, he will give it to you in my
name.” ( John 16:23 ) Jesus thus taught us to
pray to the one who is both his Father and our
Father, Jehovah God.— John 20:17 .
HIS EXAMPLE: In line with the way he taught
others to pray, Jesus personally prayed: “I
publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and
earth.” ( Luke 10:21 ) On another occasion, “Jesus
raised his eyes heavenward and said: ‘Father, I
thank you that you have heard me.’” ( John
11:41 ) And as he was dying, Jesus prayed:
“Father, into your hands I entrust my
spirit.” ( Luke 23:46 ) In praying to his heavenly
Father—the “Lord of heaven and earth”—Jesus set
a clear example for all to follow. ( Matthew 11:25;
26:41, 42; 1 John 2:6 ) Is that how Jesus’ early
disciples understood his instructions?
TO WHOM DID THE EARLY
CHRISTIANS PRAY?
Within weeks of Jesus’ return to heaven, his
disciples were being harassed and threatened by
their opposers. ( Acts 4:18 ) Of course, they
reached out in prayer—but to whom did they
turn? “They raised their voices with one accord to
God,” praying that he would continue helping
them “through the name of [his] holy servant
Jesus.” ( Acts 4:24, 30 ) So the disciples followed
Jesus’ guidelines on prayer. They prayed to God,
not to Jesus.
Years later, the apostle Paul described the
manner in which he and his associates prayed.
Writing to fellow Christians, he said: “We always
thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
when we pray for you.” ( Colossians 1:3 ) Paul also
wrote to his fellow believers about “always giving
thanks to our God and Father for everything in the
name of our Lord Jesus Christ.” ( Ephesians 5:20 )
From these words, we see that Paul encouraged
others to pray to his “God and Father for
everything”—but, of course, in Jesus’ name.—
Colossians 3:17 .
Like the early Christians, we can show our love
for Jesus by heeding his advice on prayer. ( John
14:15 ) As we pray to our heavenly Father—and to
him alone—the words of Psalm 116:1, 2 will
become ever more meaningful to us: “I love
Jehovah because he hears my voice . . . I will call
on him as long as I live.” *

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Crysthaniel(m): 11:16pm On Dec 04, 2017*

Jesus’ opposers accused him of making himself
equal to God. ( John 5:18; 10:30-33 ) However,
Jesus never claimed to be on the same level as
Almighty God. He said: “The Father is greater
than I am.”— John 14:28 . Jesus never called him self God it's the scribes and pharises that accused him of him (Jesus saying that he is God) so they plan to kill him

you see even the scribes and pharises can never take it from Jesus to be God.. It is not possible so they lied that he claimed to be God so that gives them the fake reason why they want to kill Jesus..

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Crysthaniel(m): 11:11pm On Dec 04, 2017

brocab:
This is always the same old argument with JW's, they are not of Us, nor do they preach the Word of God to be one of Us.
{John 17:21} I am not asking on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf of those who will believe in Me, through their message. That all of them maybe one, as You Father are in Me and "I" in You, May they also be in Us, so the world may believe that You sent Me.
Question: "Is Jesus God? Did Jesus ever claim to be God?"
Answer: The Bible never records Jesus saying the precise words, “I am God.” That does not mean, however, that He did not proclaim that He is God.
Take for example Jesus’ words in {John 10:30} “I and the Father are one.”
We need only to look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement to know He was claiming to be God.
They tried to stone Him for this very reason: “You, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33). The Jews understood exactly what Jesus was claiming—deity. When Jesus declared, “I and the Father are one,” He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence.
{John 8:58} is another example. Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth … before Abraham was born, I am!” Jews who heard this statement responded by taking up stones to kill Him for blasphemy, as the Mosaic Law commanded (Leviticus 24:16).
John reiterates the concept of Jesus’ deity: “The Word [Jesus] was God” and “the Word became flesh” (John 1:1, 14)
These verses clearly indicate that Jesus is God in the flesh.
{Acts 20:28} tells us, “Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.” Who bought the church with His own blood? Jesus Christ.
And this same verse declares that God purchased His church with His own blood. Therefore, Jesus is God!
Thomas the disciple declared concerning Jesus, “My Lord and my God” (John 20:28).
Jesus does not correct him.
{Titus 2:13} encourages us to wait for the coming of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ (see also 2 Peter 1:1).
In {Hebrews 1:8} the Father declares of Jesus, “But about the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.’” The Father refers to Jesus as “O God,” indicating that Jesus is indeed God.
In Revelation, an angel instructed the apostle John to only worship God (Revelation 19:10)
Several times in Scripture Jesus receives worship (Matthew 2:11; 14:33; 28:9, 17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38).
He never rebukes people for worshiping Him. If Jesus were not God, He would have told people to not worship Him, just as the angel in Revelation did.
There are many other passages of Scripture that argue for Jesus’ deity.
The most important reason that Jesus has to be God is that, if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2)
A created being, which Jesus would be if He were not God, could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God.
Only God could pay such an infinite penalty.
Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21) die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death.

Jesus’ early followers did not view him as being
equal to Almighty God. For example, the apostle
Paul wrote that after Jesus was resurrected, God
“exalted him [Jesus] to a superior position.”
Obviously, Paul did not believe that Jesus was
Almighty God. Otherwise, how could God exalt
Jesus to a superior position? —Philippians 2:9 .

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Crysthaniel(m): 11:31pm On Dec 03, 2017

johnw74:
More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.

false jw say the Word Jesus Christ is not God, the Holy Spirit is not God

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Psa 33:6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him(the Word); and without him(the Word) was not any thing made that was made.

God created = the Spirit of God moved = by the word of the LORD = by His breath(Spirit) = him(the Word)
The Word of God is the Spirit of God, He is the Holy Spirit

God(Father and Son) is a Spirit
Joh_4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

God and the Word is the Holy Spirit
Joh_14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

God and the Word is God
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

if Jesus now Is the God , why did he pray everytime he wanted to perform the miracles.. Especially the one of Lazarus?? Jesus truly say his motives for praying before he say words to Lazarus John 11:41-42 he wanted all to know that he is not the one doing the works that there is a father greater than him in the heaven who has sent him to the earth. John14:28.:john 17:3

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Crysthaniel(m): 11:19pm On Dec 03, 2017

johnw74:
More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect

The antichrist jehovah's witnesses sect say in this thread that the Alpha and Omega is Father God,
however the scriptures show that the Alpha and Omega is Jesus Christ.

These verses below show that the Alpha and Omega is the beginning and the ending,
they show that the beginning and the ending is the first and the last,
and that the first and the last is Jesus Christ:

Rev_1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

The above verse say's that the Alpha and Omega is the beginning and the ending, the Almighty,
the below verse say's that the Alpha and omega, the beginning and the ending, is the first and the last:

Rev_22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

And this verse below shows that the first and the last is Jesus Christ:

Rev_2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

johnw74:
More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect

The antichrist jehovah's witnesses sect say in this thread that the Alpha and Omega is Father God,
however the scriptures show that the Alpha and Omega is Jesus Christ.

These verses below show that the Alpha and Omega is the beginning and the ending,
they show that the beginning and the ending is the first and the last,
and that the first and the last is Jesus Christ:

Rev_1:8 [color=#990000]I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

The above verse say's that the Alpha and Omega is the beginning and the ending, the Almighty,
the below verse say's that the Alpha and omega, the beginning and the ending, is the first and the last:

Rev_22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

And this verse below shows that the first and the last is Jesus Christ:

Rev_2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

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johnw74:
More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect

The antichrist jehovah's witnesses sect say in this thread that the Alpha and Omega is Father God,
however the scriptures show that the Alpha and Omega is Jesus Christ.

These verses below show that the Alpha and Omega is the beginning and the ending,
they show that the beginning and the ending is the first and the last,
and that the first and the last is Jesus Christ:

Rev_1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

The above verse say's that the Alpha and Omega is the beginning and the ending, the Almighty,
the below verse say's that the Alpha and omega, the beginning and the ending, is the first and the last:

Rev_22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

And this verse below shows that the first and the last is Jesus Christ:

Rev_2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

who told you that this verses point to Jesus as God?? Undoubtedly this verse point to an all mighty the beginning it self and the end... No place in the Bible says that Jesus was God... For example in the ancient Isreal, Moses warn the Israelites that their God is one God deutronomey6:4

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Education › Re: Polytechnic Lecturers Begins Nationwide Strike Monday by Crysthaniel(m): 8:00pm On Jan 30, 2017

Poletechnic lecturers are still better . .what u dont have is an experience with them.

Education › Re: The Federal University Of Technology Akure (FUTA) 2016/2017 Admission Session by Crysthaniel(m): 5:38pm On Mar 07, 2016

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