European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 11:04am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Kilishihunter: Liverpool play to dominate the game with pressure and fast transitions through mainly the FBs before the wingers sef not counter attack And Xavi is also not a counter attacking coach, 2 or 3 games with us being under pressure while away won't change that, We have dominated games even against solid teams with possession last season too Even though it's not fully relevant, Did you check out any of xavi's games at Al sadd to come to the conclusion he's a counter attacking based coach? al sadd is like the Bayern and PSG of that league. They are by far the strongest and they have the best players, you should expect to dominate against inferior rivals, cuz they'll always sit back and play on a low block. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 10:58am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Kilishihunter: Moutinho was a key member in his 2016 euro winning squad that's why I typed recently , The way you are hammering on inverted winger, inverted winger as if Silva doesn't play multiple roles even a false 9, when I said he plays 6 you said it's false, Oga please go and watch Belgium vs Portugal Euros Round of 16 and see how the passive Santos become active to deploy Silva with gaining control of the midfield to find an equalizer even if I don't watch Portugal as much as you do Also can't a controller be creative, Xavi did that for us in 2008/2009, even also moving close to the wings sometimes and gave more than 20 assists in all comps though some were closed play, Silva might be an inverted AM or even a false 9 which he did but if he came to our midfield he'll be our major controller cause he while pedri will be the advanced playmaker Omo I'm done here. you don't even know how a controller functions, it's why you've been arguing nonsense pointlessly. How can you say Bernardo is a controller? Yes all controllers can be creative but not all creative midfielders can be controllers. Bernardo, Ozil, de bruyne, Eriksen, Bruno, are creative midfielders, but they are not controllers, Bernardo is even a psuedo midfielder. Controllers are the Xavis, iniestas, pirlos, modrics, Kroos, pogbas, thiagos, verrattis, FDJs etc. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 10:34am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Kilishihunter: You also saw where I typed sometimes , The real Madrid game last season and recent rayo bashing made us employ free flowing possession and control reminiscent of pep Anyways I don't need xavi to be like pep, if he finds his own system that makes us win most of the time and give us trophies it's all good klopp's Liverpool also dominated real Madrid last season in the UCL final. Xavi's idea of football is a direct, counter attacking style, focusing on creativity from the wings, very similar to klopp's setup. You'll see a different pedri and Gavi for Spain under lucho. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 10:30am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Kilishihunter: I watch Portugal and I know about Santos's passive tactics, But then again even Mourinho and Simeone will come out to take hold of the game when they are down and need a win, Go and checkout their Euro's Round of 16 exit against Belgium when he and Moutinho took hold of that midfield when they were in search of an equalizer or against Serbia when they lost, Bernado Silva won the UNL 2019 player of the tournament through coming infield with also drifting from the wings, Go and checkup his matchup with FDJ in the middle for that final If a Ruben neves or Moutinho is there he'll have the license to roam and push up, But they don't feature that much cause of the sitting DMs of course, You don't expect Carvalho or Danilo to give you more tempo in midfield when chasing a goal Ruben neves and moutinho aren't there because Santos doesn't care about technicality, don't you get the point?! Santos' prefers a dynamic and physical midfield over technique and control (just like when klopp has wijnaldum, Henderson and fabinho in midfield). it's why Renato always has game time and flourishes for Portugal. Portugal's play is a passive one that dwell on quick transitions. Bernardo plays as an inverted winger, that's why he drifts to the middle to create clear cut chances and leave room for cancelo create width in attack. He doesn't play as a controller. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 10:18am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Kilishihunter: This is it, How our midfield will feed our forwards , You can control all you want but still do nada, Xavi wanting silva was for firstly creativity and an experienced stable leader in the midfield which FDJ has not been able to enact consistently, Pedri is our best bet but he's gradually learning how to be less of an AM/LW and more of a CM, Even his long balls have improved though with xavi wanting him to score more he'll still push up, Gavi is more of a workhorse and ball winner than a creative specimen though he's not bad at it and will improve with time, Then again xavi's style of play somehow employs lesser use of the midfielders than wingers/FBs, our gameplay resembles Klopp rather than pep sometimes simply put!! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 10:04am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Kilishihunter: In your first image, William carvalho and Danilo Pereira are pure sitting DMs, Bruno pushes up upfield to move close to the striker or score reason why he was mostly benched during the euros, He's a instinctive AM So which player controls that midfield? lmao. And you say you watch Portugal?  Fernando Santos doesn't use a controller for Portugal.. Santos' Philosophy is more of grit, dynamism and physical presence in midfield than technicality. Portugal play a counter attacking football focusing on quick transitions, hence the reason why they are always dominated by teams who match or are more than them in terms of quality, heck even Switzerland had most of the ball when they played portugal. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 9:52am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Kilishihunter: Nope, pedri and de Jong can't control than Bernando, Pedri still drifts like an AM though he's gradually improving several facets of his game and FDJ tends to roam too much and drive the ball than sit back recently with us, Bernando can be a winger but also stand in as a 8 or 6 as you want, Watch him in Portugal and his games against Vardrid this year when pep made his FBs disciplined against them cause of counter attacks in the second leg, Infact he's even a major reason over even the inverted wingers sometimes that KDB has the license to roam forward and either pick the final pass or launch his wicked shots Also know that Football has changed to a more physical and direct game, If you like bring back xavi and iniesta teams will press you or either sit back in a low block to deal with him, Even the great pep had several problems when travelling with us to Anoeta stop peddling false information because you want to suit your narrative. Bernardo has never played as an 8 or 6 for Portugal. He's used as a winger to create clear cut chances. Bernardo isn't a controller, guardiola's city is a well structured and drilled team that's why he's able to function as an interior. FDJ even though he roams forward alot is more of a controller than bernardo. Ten hag so badly wanted him in his team because he needed control in his midfield at United and he very well new FDJ fits that profile. If Bernardo comes here, it wouldn't solve anything in terms of midfield presence and control for us... Even worsened by the fact that Xavi's idea and style of football is a very direct and counter attacking one.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 9:30am On Sep 04, 2022 |
jpmoriarti: Against a team that also plays well in possession, I don't think competing in the middle with them will benefit us so much. We have a great frontline. We need to take full advantage of it. We need to get the ball to them as soon as possible. We need to stretch them and strike when they least expect it.
Real Madrid realises how good Vinicius and Benzema is. So they give the ball to them as fast as possible and as accurate as possible. therein lies your point! You want us to play like Real Madrid lol. But we are Barca and we are renowned for utilising the midfield and dominate possession. Spare me the bulshit about a great Frontline, we had MSN under lucho– arguably the most deadly Frontline in football history, yet we recycled possession pretty well even though we were kinda direct. Like I said, I'll give Xavi's Barca the benefit of the doubt as the team hasn't gelled yet, hence the lack of cohesion. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 9:23am On Sep 04, 2022 |
jpmoriarti: Inverted wingers allow your fullbacks to thrive. We also try to apply similar pattern at Barca. Bellerin will be very pivotal if he stays fit. The inverted winger can also hug the flanks and allow the fullback to drift inwards. City doesn't have any inverted winger right now except Mahrez who's mostly on the bench. When I said 'converted' wingers, I meant foden and grealish who are midfielders playing as false wingers for city, they occasionally cluster the middle when de bruyne pushes forward in attack and Bernardo drifts towards the flank, and if you observe, walker positions close to rodri to provide passing options. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 9:10am On Sep 04, 2022 |
jpmoriarti: This is exactly what Xavi wanted. That's how to stretch an opposition team. When we hug the flanks, we force them to send a man out of position, leaving us with the possibility of finding our own free man, that is the third man. It is a difficult tactics but the team will learn it. this leaves us with less control of the match and makes us less dominant in possession. So we are now more of a direct, counter attacking side under xavi. Cool.. Let's see how it goes |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 8:54am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Kilishihunter: We don't have a controller who'll stay in the middle to dictate play from the midfield, reason why xavi went for Silva, FDJ's the closest to it but he roams too much, Also in the history of barça since cruyff our FBs have been used to try and go wide to stretch the opposition before they can come back to aid the midfield when dominating play, Busi needs to see less games now because of his weakened limitations, We got several new players so you cannot expect them to gel at once and fully understand each other in just less than a month, Give them time to blend Sevilla's defence is only shit cause of departures the other aspects are okay reason why you saw us being held down in the early stages, Also you should also think about what your own team can do to hurt other teams not them to us always, Our attack as you noted is very deadly and we are super fast with transitions, one mistake from them and we're on our way to their goalpost running at them Bernardo is actually not a controller, infact pedri and de jong are more of controllers than Bernardo, who drifts to the wings alot. His straying off the middle is masked by the fact that guardiola uses converted wingers at city who overcompensate Bernardo's drifting by clustering the middle. Man city's structure and style of play is a delicate one. if Bernardo had come here, I don't think it solves our problems in terms of control and midfield presence, it only aids our creativity. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 8:24am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Mhistaedie01: Your pessimism is sometimes unnecessary. Have you watched Bayern recently or you're still living off that 8-2 trauma. Get it over you please am I being pessimistic with your data? Or na you carry me come here? You can always skip my posts if you find them "pessimistic". |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 8:17am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Kilishihunter: While I agree we didn't play to their best in the early stages didn't you see how the game gradually swung in our favour after the half hour mark due to those goals scored, Didn't you see Raphinha's goals created out of nothing when we were oppressed started by Gavi winning the ball in midfield? As good and better constructed as Bayern is they lack a top 9 which is now with us who'll have taken most of their chances created plus they're also susceptible to counter attacks and transitions with them deploying a higher line than us Can't you see our Defence has improved with our goalie gradually getting back into his previous best? Also Bayern didn't take any game lightly, Union Berlin could have even beat them in the end if not for a smart stop from neuer, They are one of the strongest teams at home in the bundesliga You're talking about a weakened sevilla that has failed to win any match so far this season. They've been very poor. Yes I saw the goals.. and like I said before, we have a very good and lethal attack, that's what've been coming through for us. Otherwise we've been 'meh'. Our midfield play hasn't been good at all so far this season.. the interiors push too forward and the full backs are too wide hugging the flank, leaving busquets somewhat isolated. If we meet teams that press really high, we'll suffer severely and the lethal ones like Bayern will punish us. We have to improve and I hope we do. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 8:08am On Sep 04, 2022 |
andrewbaba44: Real sociedad are also a very poor side
Union Berlin is also a very good team 
Bayern didn’t take any of those games lightly,go and watch the games and stop this shalaye ,even highlights will give you clue
Barca play well you go complain ,Barca no play well you go also complain dimwit, we've not particularly played well this season.. it's been the same chaotic, lethargic play so far. I'm hoping for improvements though, cuz it's obvious our team hasn't gelled. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 8:00am On Sep 04, 2022 |
andrewbaba44: And we are not playing well by winning games against sociedad and Sevilla ,but Bayern are playing well by failing to win union Berlin and co
You really have a problem
Reverse should be the case ,if Bayern don’t improve Barca will punish them so badly LMAO, don't be stupid. Sevilla are a very poor side now, and as poor as they've been this season, they'd have punished us if they were effective, as they smoked our backline several times early on during the game. The quality of our attack was what came through for us last night, and it's been the case so far through the season. Bundesliga is like Bayerns birthright, they are guaranteed to win that league every season even before the league properly begins. So bayern actually can afford to take some games lightly. I'll say it again, if we continue this chaotic style of football against strong opposition, we'll be severely punished. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 7:54am On Sep 04, 2022 |
BlaqFaze: Real Madrid get any pattern of play when dey win Ucl last season...
Bayern with all the pattern of play nor fit beat union berlin I won't dignify this mention with an appropriate response, it's not worth the hassle. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 7:10am On Sep 04, 2022*. Modified: 7:47am On Sep 04, 2022 |
BlaqFaze: Bayern are struggling in their farmland...no wins in their last 2 games but they play really well.. plus, it's a given that they'll end up as bundesliga winners anyways. If we don't improve, Bayern will punish us home and away, and we might not go far in the champions League this season |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 7:04am On Sep 04, 2022 |
With this our chaotic pattern of play, It'll be another story when Bayern and the likes catches us... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 7:19pm On Sep 03, 2022 |
Culer: this one wey FDJ squeeze face for here, be like he no go start today match. Hmmm said it |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 9:11am On Sep 03, 2022 |
Our squad depth is crazy! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Culer: 9:04am On Sep 03, 2022 |
melodyogonna: Xavi, Iniesta, or prime Busquets won't lose that ball. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 2:21am On Sep 03, 2022 |
ghettokid1: Sevilla we are coming for our 3 point this one wey FDJ squeeze face for here, be like he no go start today match. Hmmm |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Culer: 1:49am On Sep 02, 2022 |
BlueAngel444: Apart from Cucurella, our signings are blacks
They said all our black DMs have done well, hoping Zakaria comes good lol, na black players dey reign now. Abi you nor know |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 8:56pm On Sep 01, 2022 |
Geld: Wetin dey sup bro?  Nothing really. Just Romero using Barca fans dey catch cruise. The clown should take up a job in comic relief writing at this point. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 8:21pm On Sep 01, 2022 |
brandon180: Wey be say better midfielder no Dey market Liverpool legit had to sign Arthur Melo. But Omo Klopp might be able to revive Arthur. like! you get? A whole man city go release such an important player so late without replacement . Na jazz?  Even the Bernardo sef don come out talk say he no dey go anywhere this season. See barca fans all over the social media space getting excited over shit peddled by bums who call themselves journalists. LMAO |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 8:04pm On Sep 01, 2022*. Modified: 9:33pm On Sep 01, 2022 |
I mean, why would a person with half a brain swallow the obviously farce too-late-to-be-true news about Bernardo? So man city will just release the guy like that without replacement? leaving a gap in their midfield? I know humans can be gullible but abeg make fans dey apply sense and logic sometimes  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 7:06pm On Sep 01, 2022 |
[quote author=ghettokid1 post=116263332][/quote]LMAO Football Journalism has become a clownery circus  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 5:44pm On Sep 01, 2022*. Modified: 7:03pm On Sep 01, 2022 |
What surprise is it? Or is the twitch twerking clown messing with culers again? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 8:24pm On Aug 30, 2022 |
Talking about dodging a bullet, azpilicueta's been horrendous so far this season  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 11:09am On Aug 29, 2022 |
BlaqFaze: In those 3 games he's been our best defender...be there waiting for him to fail ok.. bookmarked  I'll quote this post in a month time |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 10:50am On Aug 29, 2022 |
BlaqFaze: All i know is Eric has been our best defender this season Calm down.. we're just 3 games into the season. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Culer: 10:37am On Aug 29, 2022 |
FirstbornWds: Y'all don't worry. You'll see Eric in defense tarya.
He faced Madrid and Athletico and excellently well. Frankfurt game was a total off for every player on the pitch but na Eric una remember.
Napoli that he kept Oshimen quiet is the one that somebody is claiming that he was bad.
Xavi knows best and I am sure he's not blind to have trusted ahead of every other defender. lmao, you sure say you watch that Napoli match? He faced Madrid that had no benzema and no right winger. Vini pocketed by araujo, so there was no threat at all. Yes Xavi knows best that's why he bought Christensen and kounde. If you'll talk about depth, Christensen would've been enough as we already had araujo pique and the Eric.. but Xavi knows best so he fought for kounde's signature.. he knew Garcia's only good against farmers and plumbers  |