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Christianity EtcRe: What's Your Proof Of God And The Devil? by Cybertroll(op): 9:52am On Jul 30, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Speak up regarding what exactly? undecided
That they've seen God. Obviously undecided
Christianity EtcRe: What's Your Proof Of God And The Devil? by Cybertroll(op): 8:37pm On Jul 29, 2023
Kobojunkie:
How certain are you that no one has seen, felt, or spoken to them? undecided
Anyone who has should speak up. If you have sound proof, please share. undecided

You converse with spirits? undecided
Christianity EtcWhat's Your Proof Of God And The Devil? by Cybertroll(op): 8:26pm On Jul 29, 2023
What makes you believe in the existence of God and the Devil regardless of the fact that no one, including you, has seen them, felt them, talked to them, etc. smiley

Or...

Do you believe simply because you were raised to? undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Would God Have Murdered These Innocent Belivers Without Abraham's Intervention? by Cybertroll(op): 11:39am On Jul 18, 2023
preciousee17:
All those things were written for a reason.

There's something called 'The counsel of God'.
It's not a commonly preached topic but it's a fact.
The meaning is that, God surrounds entities (heavenly or earthly), to make decisions, or to listen to how He's making decisions.

"Let us make man in our own image", stuff like that...

God reveals His plans to His people (Abraham in this case).

By the way this also shows you that God has a character and can 'gist', in summary, He's not that boring dictator that people paint Him to be.

God destroyed the whole world in the days of Noah and spared the righteous (Noah and family), without listening to man's advice.
In other words, God sometimes needs someone to preach common sense to him.

God revealed his plans to Abraham who had to point out how flawed it was... undecided

Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked?

24 What if there are fifty righteous people in the city? Will you really sweep it away and not spare the place for the sake of the fifty righteous people in it?

25 Far be it from you to do such a thing—to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?”
Yes, God destroyed the world, including the innocent and children. Too bad he didn't ask for advice, he acted like true dictator. undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Would God Have Murdered These Innocent Belivers Without Abraham's Intervention? by Cybertroll(op): 11:34am On Jul 18, 2023
PlayerMeji:
He is GOD.... Simple...

He decides whatever He wants...
including murder? undecided

Sounds like he's s dictator.
Christianity EtcRe: Would God Have Murdered These Innocent Belivers Without Abraham's Intervention? by Cybertroll(op): 11:51pm On Jul 17, 2023
Humans shouldn't need to teach God a lesson on Justice and Mortality... undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Would God Have Murdered These Innocent Belivers Without Abraham's Intervention? by Cybertroll(op): 11:50pm On Jul 17, 2023
1. Does God have a conscience?

2. Couldn't God have simply killed the bad people of Sodom and Gomorrah without killing the innocent people who also lived in these cities?

3. Did God really need Abraham to tell him killing innocent people is UNLIKE God?

4. Without Abraham's intervention, God would have killed innocent people?

5. God needed Abraham to tell him atleast ten innocent people could have been living in the city of Sodom? Shouldn't he know all?

undecided
Christianity EtcWould God Have Murdered These Innocent Belivers Without Abraham's Intervention? by Cybertroll(op): 11:42pm On Jul 17, 2023
undecided


Genesis 18:16-33

16 When the men got up to leave, they looked down toward Sodom, and Abraham walked along with them to see them on their way.

17 Then the Lord said, “Shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do?

18 Abraham will surely become a great and powerful nation, and all nations on earth will be blessed through him.

19 For I have chosen him, so that he will direct his children and his household after him to keep the way of the Lord by doing what is right and just, so that the Lord will bring about for Abraham what he has promised him.”

20 Then the Lord said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous

21 that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.”

22 The men turned away and went toward Sodom, but Abraham remained standing before the Lord.

23 Then Abraham approached him and said: “Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked?

24 What if there are fifty righteous people in the city? Will you really sweep it away and not spare the place for the sake of the fifty righteous people in it?

25 Far be it from you to do such a thing—to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?”

26 The Lord said, “If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake.”

27 Then Abraham spoke up again: “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, though I am nothing but dust and ashes,

28 what if the number of the righteous is five less than fifty? Will you destroy the whole city for lack of five people?”

“If I find forty-five there,” he said, “I will not destroy it.”

29 Once again he spoke to him, “What if only forty are found there?”

He said, “For the sake of forty, I will not do it.”

30 Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak. What if only thirty can be found there?”

He answered, “I will not do it if I find thirty there.”

31 Abraham said, “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, what if only twenty can be found there?”

He said, “For the sake of twenty, I will not destroy it.”

32 Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak just once more. What if only ten can be found there?”

He answered, “For the sake of ten, I will not destroy it.”

33 When the Lord had finished speaking with Abraham, he left, and Abraham returned home.
Christianity EtcRe: Evil Is Superior To God! (my Opinion) by Cybertroll(op): 4:54pm On May 19, 2023
TheBillyonaire:
The same entity masquerades as God and Devil. Christianity, Islam, Judaism are his mind control programs.
African traditional religions? huh
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by Cybertroll: 1:00pm On May 19, 2023
TenQ:
I never said that God is a 4th Dimensional being. All we can say is that He is at a Dimension higher than 3D:

Even if God is at a 4th dimension, he is already infinitely higher than us. The gap between 1 D and 3D is not ONE but infinity because it takes an infinitely large number of 1D to transition into 2D.
Doesn't matter. A dot worshipping a square would be ridiculous to a sphere, no? If there are other dimensions higher than the 3rd and 4th, then God isn't really special (assuming he's a 4D being).

Unless God created them all. Then I wonder, "Why? Why created a dimension for the dot and the line and the square and the sphere?"...
Christianity EtcRe: Evil Is Superior To God! (my Opinion) by Cybertroll(op): 12:50pm On May 19, 2023
Westerhoffe:
Evil is not superior to GOD.
If you don't know or understand about GOD, ask questions and understand before you blaspheme.

GOD is good, all merciful, magnificent, excellent, wonderful most Superior than anything He has made/created.

Those who truly knows GOD said:

“Behold, God is mighty, and despiseth not any: he is mighty in strength and wisdom.”
— Job 36:5 (KJV)

Job 37 (KJV)
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¹ At this also my heart trembleth, and is moved out of his place.
² Hear attentively the noise of his voice, and the sound that goeth out of his mouth.
³ He directeth it under the whole heaven, and his lightning unto the ends of the earth.
⁴ After it a voice roareth: he thundereth with the voice of his excellency; and he will not stay them when his voice is heard.
⁵ God thundereth marvellously with his voice; great things doeth he, which we cannot comprehend.

Job 11 (KJV)
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⁷ Canst thou by searching find out God? canst thou find out the Almighty unto perfection?
⁸ It is as high as heaven; what canst thou do? deeper than hell; what canst thou know?
⁹ The measure thereof is longer than the earth, and broader than the sea.
¹⁰ If he cut off, and shut up, or gather together, then who can hinder him?

I have also seen and known many dark secrets hidden from the eyes of the mortals in the carnal realm. But narrating them to men in the flesh sounds like impossible madness of a talk.
Why?
Because they're much too impossible to believe by anyone, including most Christians today!

So if you don't know GOD, please don't say thrash that may implicate your soul.

What is in the other eternal realm of souls is far far far beyond what the mortal eyes have ever seen, ears heard or hands touch.
Nonsense!

Why did God test Job?
Christianity EtcRe: Evil Is Superior To God! (my Opinion) by Cybertroll(op): 12:48pm On May 19, 2023
kkins25:
They were born the same day; both offsprings of mother consciousness.
Maybe. It makes me uncomfortable knowing Christians would worship a God who CHOOSES, when it's CONVENIENT, to be GOOD.

It's unsafe.
Christianity EtcRe: Evil Is Superior To God! (my Opinion) by Cybertroll(op): 12:45pm On May 19, 2023
Westerhoffe:
Mind your speech as I said in my previous comment.
GOD did not create evil He can't control. But what I have seen is everything are made by Him to control, cause to happen, revoke, and instill.

You cannot blame a man for destroying a property He made for himself. That's how we are in His hands.

You are wondering why GOD does not control the evil in the world when He said He brings them Himself!!!
You're the clown here man! cheesy

A lot more are still coming to the world. And I mean worse than the world has ever seen. That's how He had planned it before the Eternal Days of Mortal Transition begins.

You're not to feel comfortable and too used to this realm. So evil must keep happening.

You might call some Christians stupid for believing in an unseen World/Paradise but man, it exists for real because I have seen it too!

About the evil spirits/Evil/devils/wicked creatures/demons/bla bla bla that are in this current world, which you are thinking GOD cannot control, Hahaha! They know they have a little time man! They know a lot but won't tell you!!!

In the New world, which will be forever for the souls of the saved, GOD won't be be needing them all over there! They'll become useless forever and will be disposed of forever. They know, that's why they'll instigate as many as possible to suffer same fate as they.

cheesy cheesy cheesy

Man, there is a lot to know and a lot to say… but not today man.
Counter intuitive. When humans sinned, why did God murder them all? Why didn't he simply destroy Evil? It's obvious Evil is a nuisance, so why does he endure it? So much so he had to reincarnate as his son to die for the same humans who would kill him. Or is he a sadist who derives pleasure from suffering?


I'll ask you a question.

When did sin begin and with whom?
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by Cybertroll: 12:39pm On May 19, 2023
TenQ:
It is a satire my friend!

Philosophical and yet Spiritual.

It seems Atheists are locked in the 3D space and treat Theists exactly like "A Square". They think they know Unfortunately, they are only constrained by their experiences and perceptions.

If there is no possibility of higher dimensions, then Atheists are completely right. However if there is a possibility of higher dimensions existing, then Atheists are wrong and may need to open their minds rather than obstinately closing it and asking dumb questions


"A Square" in the novel is certainly seen as insane at best: he should forget his knowledge and be as dumb as the others in 2D space. The dumb are actually limited only by their perception of space.
Nice and interesting satirical novel

I still marvel at the kind of questions A Square would be subjected to. He would be ridiculed and taunted for believing in imaginary things.
Probably.

If God is a 4th dimensional being, what's special about him? He would be great only when compared to us (due to our limitations.

Dot < Line < Square < Cube and so on (if the 4D and the 5th and 6th till infinity, exists)
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by Cybertroll: 12:21pm On May 19, 2023
TenQ:
I agree with you: it is hard to believe but not impossible.

I cringe at the arguments of scientist who live within 0D or 1D or 2D arguing that higher dimensions do not exist. Theory and Reality seems opposed to each other
Hm. But why in this section?
Christianity EtcRe: Evil Is Superior To God! (my Opinion) by Cybertroll(op): 12:15pm On May 19, 2023
TheBillyonaire:
It is very simple. Let me use examples for your understanding - Consider Electricity and Water as major Energy Systems. And consider Consciousness is same light.

Now water is a necessity for Life because it is liquid life. But in the abundance of water, you can drown, and then we can say, ocean is evil and takes life without mercy. Yet you need water.

Electricity powers our life, we can not have life without electricity because our brains and neural system requires electricity, our homes need it, everything needs it even cars, plants etc, because electricity is how Universe moves quarks, but if you are ignorant of the principles of Electricity it can electrocute you and you die. Then people will say, electricity is evil, yet it is also good.

Consciousness powers the entire simulacra, because it is pulsating the entire existence and there are major systems that convert consciousness to spirit, to water, to matter to other forms of energy etc etc.

BUT if you are ignorant of Conscious(ness) Technologies, you could basically just die doing some bleeped up shit.

The question therefore, is not the Source of Energy, cos Energy can not be created nor destroyed, but can change form, which sounds like defination for God, so it is not source of Energy, because Energy comes from Consciousness and Consciousness comes from Spirit.

So, to understand Consciousness Science and Consciousness Technologies, you need to take baby steps - Take some sources of Quantum Cosmology, Solid State Physics and then move towards MetaPhysics and move to the world of Magic.

The World of Magic is when you use Consciousness Dynamics to move things intentionally and perform miracles (magic) and then you will become ready to understand what God is.

But if you do not want to go through that level of understand, just ignore and know there is Something or Someone out there that created the system THAT MADE THE ENTITY THAT IS PLAYING YOUR AVATAR in this simulation.

If you do not know your God, then consider me your God, and I will start providing all your needs while you worship me. grin grin
Oh! huh

Kinda complicated... But I suppose you have it figured out.
Christianity EtcRe: Evil Is Superior To God! (my Opinion) by Cybertroll(op): 12:12pm On May 19, 2023
Westerhoffe:
GOD is not your mate.
When do you think you can find GOD out by searching while GOD is a Spirit?

GOD said,

Isaiah 45 (KJV)
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⁵ I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
⁶ That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
⁷ I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
⁸ Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it.
⁹ Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?


What do you think these mean?
God would be stupid to create Evil he can't defeat, no? undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Evil Is Superior To God! (my Opinion) by Cybertroll(op): 11:54am On May 19, 2023
Wagwanbrethren:
What the feckin h!! Is this! 🤮
Was that supposed to be a proof of God existence,and how does my existence prove his existence?
The Christian God doesn't exist.

What ever is the reason you exist is God, and it has no power over Evil. That's the point
Christianity EtcRe: Evil Is Superior To God! (my Opinion) by Cybertroll(op): 11:50am On May 19, 2023
TheBillyonaire:
I know I am God, one of the many that make up the One. I know I am also the Devil, whenever I choose to do some crazy shit. These are just fancy names.
God = Good
Devil = Evil

Humans are God and the Devil, both Good and Evil.

Now, I have something to think about: Which came first?
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by Cybertroll: 11:43am On May 19, 2023
TenQ:
Spatial dimensions are axes of space that we can move through like the x, y, and z axis that we can move through.

Let's go on a journey of dimensions by imagining a 3D space (as we are familiar with it).

Existence in Zero Dimension:
Zero Dimension is just an infinitesimally small point within a 3D space. A person within a zero Dimensional space is static and he would believe he's alone in the whole universe. Words like velocity, distance, Area, Volume or Space would be nonsensical to him.

Existence in One Dimension:
One Dimension is an assembly of infinitely large numbers of zero dimensions in a straight line. A person within a one dimensional space within a 3D space is unaware of the fact that he's in a 3D space. It is impossible for him to know if he's in the X or y or z directions as these are meaningless to him. Measurements of distance, speed make sense to him, however, he cannot comprehend the meaning of area or volume or space. You will find it difficult to convince him that it is possible to have a higher dimension than 1D.
A paradox:
even when he is seen from the 3D space as alined in x or y or xz directions, it is oblivious to him.


Existence in Two Dimensions:
A Two Dimensional space is an assembly of infinitely large numbers of one dimensions in a straight line stacked on upon the other. A person within a Two dimensional space within a 3D space is unaware of the fact that he's in a 3D space. It is impossible for him to know if he's in the xy or yz or xz planes as these are meaningless to him.
Measurements of area, displacement, velocity, volume, area density make sense to him, however, he cannot comprehend the meaning of area or volume or height. You will find it difficult to convince him that it is possible to have a higher dimension than 2D.
Paradox:
When an object is placed in a closed loop, he believes that it is scientifically impossible to bring out the object from within the loop without breaking the loop.
Of course, those of us who live within the 3D space will laugh at his folly. When such a feat is done before him by someone in the 3rd dimension, he concludes that it must be a miracle


Existence in Three Dimensions:
A Three Dimensional space is an assembly of infinitely large numbers of Two dimensions stacked on upon the other. A person within a Three dimensional space within a 4D space is unaware of the fact that he's in a 4D space. It is impossible for him to know if he's in the xyza or xyzb or xyzd volumes as these are meaningless to him.
Measurements of area or volume or height, displacement, velocity, volume, area density make sense to him, however, he cannot comprehend the meaning of anything outside the 3D.

Just as the person in the 1D or 2D space, You will find it difficult to convince him that it is possible to have a higher dimension than 3D.

Paradox:
When an object is placed in a closed volume, he believes that it is scientifically impossible to bring out the object from within the volume without breaking the volume.
Of course, those who live within the 4D space will laugh at his folly. When such a feat is done before him by someone in the 4th dimension, he concludes that it must be a miracle


Christians have always spoken about God, Angels, Demons and the Spiritual Realm which in this case is at dimensions higher than 3 dimensions. We cannot tell if their dimensions is the 4th or 5th or 6th....1000th.
Atheists understandably think that any dimension higher than 3D is a figment of imagination.

Note:
Time is NOT a dimension: time is a measure of intervals between events in 1D, 2D, 3D , 4D space



Question:
1. Is it reasonable to conclude unequivocally that higher dimensions than 3D do NOT exist in the Universe?
2. What kind of experiments would you advise scientists in the 2D world conduct to prove the existence of the 3D space?
3. Let's assume that by some Stroke of massive intelligence, scientists in the 2D space have perfect scientific knowledge of their space, would this knowledge be adequate in the 3D space?
4. We know that a person in a higher dimension can interact with those in the lower dimensions: is the converse possible?
Reminds me of the novel, Flatland.

Hard to believe there's a fourth dimension. I think scientists agree. But who knows?
Christianity EtcRe: Evil Is Superior To God! (my Opinion) by Cybertroll(op): 11:33am On May 19, 2023
Wagwanbrethren:
Nope. God(s) don't exist! ➰
God? If you mean the being with the most power and authority, that would be Evil. The Christian God is one in thousands. Evil however is constant.
Christianity EtcEvil Is Superior To God! (my Opinion) by Cybertroll(op): 11:26am On May 19, 2023
Here's what I believe, you may not agree (none of my business) but it makes the most sense.

1. God isn't perfect. He's both good and bad.

2. God is capable of committing sin. That's why humans and angels are flawed; we were created in his image. After all, didn't he murdered the entire world cause he was mad?

3. God is perfect only because he has near-perfect control of his ''badness'. (Near-perfect because sometimes he misbehaves)

4. This inherent evil is the reason Lucifer fell from grace.

5. Evil (with a capital E) is the only thing above God. It has power over him too.

6. God can't end Evil and it's consequences (suffering) because God didn't create Evil.

7. God is merciful, Evil isn't.

8. The only reason Jesus came to Earth was to teach us of Evil and how to overcome it through resistance.

9. In the Beginning was Evil, not God. Either Evil existed first (though it's hard to believe God could come from it) or Evil existed WITHIN God and it was defeated.

10. The whole point of Christianity is basically: Be Godly, meaning emulate God and conquer the evil within you.

11. In the end would be Evil. No matter what happens, it would always exist as long as there is life.

12. God drowned millions, including children because it was the only option he had. He couldn't snap his fingers and set things right because Evil is greater than he is. The only things God has control over are those he made.

13. God has significant authority over the Devil because he created the Devil (Lucifer). And he has authority over sinners for the same reason.

***

Too tired to continue.
RomanceRe: Sexual Fantasies Involving A Fellow Nairalander. by Cybertroll(op): 10:24am On May 19, 2023
akwesenana:
I think it's queer to have fantasies over someone you don't know how they look like.

But, are you a guy or a lady?
huh
RomanceRe: Sexual Fantasies Involving A Fellow Nairalander. by Cybertroll(op):
superCleanworks:
of course. so says the clown who is having sexual fantasies about a name on a faceless forum.
Let's play Scrabble someday. I live in Karu. undecided
RomanceRe: Sexual Fantasies Involving A Fellow Nairalander. by Cybertroll(op): 7:14pm On May 18, 2023
superCleanworks:
see how this one is dreaming of his fellow man. wake up uncle Benard
you're so ignorant
Christianity EtcRe: God Forcefully Impregnated A Child. by Cybertroll(op): 5:33pm On May 18, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
How you people just destroy your own selves with your foolishness.

Do you take permission from your phone to impregnate it with apps?

Or if your my phone says you have impregnated your phone would you be happy?
grin

You're insane! Lmao.
RomanceRe: Sexual Fantasies Involving A Fellow Nairalander. by Cybertroll(op): 5:24pm On May 18, 2023
Failure2019.

I've noticed you. I dunno why, probably cause you remind me of someone I used to like who was a pathological liar and a manipulator. I have a thing for toxic boys. grin

Fantasies:

Vanilla sex.
Bdsm (I would love to dominate you grin ).
party (with another guy).
Public sex.
And so on.

[Definitely not a relationship, but we could do everything else tongue ]
RomanceSexual Fantasies Involving A Fellow Nairalander. by Cybertroll(op): 5:19pm On May 18, 2023
Let's be real.

Share your fantasies, invite them over to this thread... Maybe you'll get a positive response, maybe not.

I'll begin.
RomanceRe: Am I Handsome? by Cybertroll: 4:35pm On May 18, 2023
No.
Christianity EtcRe: God Forcefully Impregnated A Child. by Cybertroll(op): 2:58pm On May 18, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Speak as an intelligent person and you'll get the reply as a gentleman
Did you not read that Mary was already ENGAGED
Or I should explain what engaged means to you?
So what? Wasn't Aisha a child when she was engaged? Who cares about that? You think 2000 years ago in the middle east, only grown women were engaged? Girls were, children. undecided

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