₦airaland Forum

IGBOSON1:
Thought you were gonna say ‘sophisticated’!

Ovamboland:
Is ACN supposed to promote unity within PDP? Or what's all these nonsense.

You support PDP for playing their politics by attempting to weaken the regional party ACN by making a Speaker out of the few reps elected. But you chide ACN for playing it's own political advantage to block such a move. The insist it can only be an ACN member because it has happened before in Nigeria for minority party to produce the speaker.

But you, who is not part of any political strategy meeting have sympathy for PDP politics and insist ACN must not play politics or protect it's own interest . How can that be fair?

What is ACN business to respect how PDP zones it's people to public offices? Is there a rule they must respect it? Does PDP respect ACN or APC zoning plans?

Gbaja lost out in 2015 and is not crying till today, he tried again and got it in 2019. That's politics. I don't know any APC member still bellyaching over his loss in 2015.

And how many pdp members did not work for govt under Abacha you hypocrite.
Hope you grow up kid in more wisdom and knowledge. You still lack a lot
@the bolded,go and find out how many south western states won by the PDP were won back, practically handled back to, by the respective states elections tribunals to the then ACN under GEJ immediately after the elections and come back and tell us how Gej wanted to weaken the regional ACN. Was that not one of the reasons Obj hated GEJ then? Or you think Gej couldn't have influenced the outcomes of those election tribunal results if he wanted to?
Just don't open ya mouth wide and rant bla bla bla in ignorance. Always endeavour to read books,read far and wide,it's good for your brains.. papa ajasco

tamdun:
Jonathan/pdp were in power, had the majority in the house, why would they need the permission of the opposition to present a yoruba speaker? What game were they playing?
If Jonathan really wanted a yoruba man on that sit,he already had the number but he ran to opposition, for what exactly?
Was that not a dumb move, he asked acn to chose a speaker from pdp? doest that even make any sense to you

IGBOSON1:
Your big nose must have gotten even bigger (a-la Pinocchio) as you told this boldfaced lie! He ‘did nothing for the south-west’...i suppose as against your darling Buhari that did lots, yet the lives of the average Yoruba in said south-west were a lot better pre-2015 than is the case today!

I don’t have the numbers, but i would wager suicide, murder, kidnapping and misery have all increased in the south-west than was previously the case during the GEJ years! I’d further wager that Fasorantis’ daughter would probably still be alive today if Buhari has lost that 2015 election! Or do you wanna posit that the Yoruba as a people are faring better today because of Lagos-Ibadan railway and Osibanjo being vee-pee, as well as other token appointments!? Is that all what progress and dividends of good governance means to you....railway and a few crumbs of appointments!? I know Yoruba much older and wiser than you that have rightly called out Buhari for the nepotistic bigot and islamofacist he truly is!

Remember i asked you what GEJ did for the south-east over and above what he did for the south-west that prompted your ilk to label him ‘enemy no 1’ of NdiYoruba! The narrative you want out there is that he favoured the s-e over the s-w, so pray, tell us how!

I can tell you why Igbos supported GEJ in 2015 over Buhari. Ndigbo knew back then that Buhari is bad market and just wasn’t an option to be considered for replacing GEJ. But more importantly, Ndigbo were looking at the entire situation from a position of fairness towards a south-south candidate of Ijaw extraction, who rightly should expect the entire south to stand besides him in the face of the onslaught from the muslim core north that has had more than their fair share of holding on to power at the centre! We knew GEJ had done little or nothing for us when compared with what was done for other regions (esp’ the north-west), but like i said, there were other considerations to take into account over and above greed and lust for power! By supporting GEJ, we even hurt our chances of being next in line to produce the president after Yar Aduas’ 8 years were done! You can accuse Igbos of anything, but not being fair isn’t one of them!

blamingthedevil:
God Bless President Buhari
God Bless Federal Republic of Nigeria


Children of 8 will soon arrive to invade this beautiful thread with their hatred

visijo:
Things we do for love..

In Ancient Greece, throwing an apple to a woman was considered a marriage proposal...


Incase you see me with Apple, comport �

Ovamboland:
Na to cry remain oh
akpanigogo papa ajasco head,we don hear you
..and which Kain hungry put hole for that your black charcoal chin nah,haba!
...and again,dem fit fry yam for that Ur fry pan head sha baaaaahahahahahahhaahaaaaa!!!!!

Yusufnairaland2:
Majority of the checkpoint are around Ore to Benin city. Very few in delta, Almost non from Onitsha to Owerri to umuahia. The only other place with a number of checkpoint again is from umuahia to Ikot ekpene.

I have travelled on this axis in a number of passion in the last few months.. First hand experience.

Godons1:
Focus on Emeka the Aba made Father Christmas, leave the North alone.

Besides, the North is safer than the East.

Evercurious:
As I have always told most of them, you can never substitute being crafty or cunning for wisdom.. NEVER

tamdun:
And u will forever have likes of ikpeazu as ur leader, they talk as if any of their leaders can match tinubu achievements

DubaiLandLord1:
Who are you to talk for every Southerner?

We know Igbos won't vote massively for Tinubu in 2023, the Efiks, Ijaws, Ibbibios, Itsekiris, Ikwerres etc will vote massively for Tinubu.

Evercurious:
Go and rest.. SHAMELESS CHAMELEONS . Thank God for that book. I pray it ll become a best seller cos you all have exposed your SHAMELESS selves to the world

aribisala0:
Was Adesina a member of PDP?

So of all the PDP members that worked for his reelection in 2011 he could not accommodate them ? Instead he pursued a vendetta against the PDP in the SW thereby handing the zone over to Tinubu

Tinubu was not so great a strategist. He benefitted from the political incompetence of Jonathan
When Jonathan took over from Yar'adua PDP controlled Ogun, Oyo, Ekiti, Osun . By the 2011 election he squandered that lead and by 2015 he had completely dismantled PDP in the SW
Oga it's ok,bye bye

perambulator:
Jakande, Awo's most trusted governor was a muslim you fool, so was his deputy jafojo!


Yorubas are not as ignorant as you idiots. Our politics is more mature than anything your brains can ever process.

Guyman02:
I pity the Igbos, the amount of propaganda against them especially by Yoruba media over the years is so much and they have suffered a lot for saying and standing by the truth.
It's because we have access to internet that we are seeing the other side, Late Obadiah Mailafia apologized to them on behalf of his people who went to war in ignorance against the Igbos in 1966

AsampeteNwaanyi:
good morning love

how far naa

I missed my period

helinues:
Drawing the attention of the Western allies is necessary cos some of the group are seeking assylum in Western world in the name of the group .

Now that they have been proscribed officially, there members could be arrested at embassies across the world as they are potential terrorists

MANDIPUTIN:
AS president in 2011, Goodluck Jonathan did all he could to ensure South West grabbed the country’s number four seat, including lobbying then opposition leaders from the zone, to no avail. The North West eventually grabbed the seat, supported by South West leaders in opposition to then ruling party, the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP). 

Former Governor of Osun State and now statesman, Chief Bisi Akande, made this revelation in his autobiography, “My Participations” which is currently dominating political and national dis- course. 

Aminu Tambuwal, now Sokoto State governor, won the seat, against the preferred pick of his party, Mrs Mulikat Adeola Akande, from the South-West. Defunct Action Congress of Nigeria, then a fledging opposition, which had Akande and his soulmate, former Lagos State governor, Senator Bola Tinubu, as front- line leaders, openly asked its elected members of the House of Representatives, mostly from the South-West, to work against their region and back Tambuwal from North-West. 

The opposition party’s support carried Tambuwal through the contest against Akande, then ruling party’s favourite for the speakership seat.

In his book, Chief Akande revealed that former president then as incumbent, personally reached out to Tinubu, who is now believed to be nursing presidential aspiration in 2023 and himself, but couldn’t convince them. 

He wrote, “President Jonathan, immediately after the meeting (with political parties), called Bola Tinubu aside into a lobby to broach the matter of ACN support for a choice of who would become the Speaker of the House of Representatives. 

“That same day, President Jonathan talked to me on phone about the same matter. He disclosed that PDP had zoned the position to the South-West but that only one Muraina and another Mulika won elections on PDP ticket from the zone into the House of Representatives. 

“I quickly reminded him that, as at (sic) that date in the United States of America, while the Democrats produced the Senate President, the Republicans (the opposition) produced the Speaker of the House of Representatives. I boasted that ACN was capable of suggesting to him ten names of members from the South West from among whom to choose if PDP would be magnanimous enough to practice democracy the way it was being practised in the USA, from where we imported our presidential system. 

“He seemed pissed off and stopped the conversation,” he said.

In the era being referenced by the former national chairman of the defunct opposition party, the controlling party in each of the chambers of the Congress in the United States was in the majority, which wasn’t the case with ACN when the Ila-born politician was making his claim.

He also revealed in the book that their political platforms had their sight on working against the then ruling party. 

“In the aftermath of the 2011 elections, many of our people were dissatisfied. Under the PDP, our country has become thoroughly decadent. Those of us who saw the then ruling party as an extension of the military corrupt politics preferred to work with all the major opposition parties which would eventually lead to a merger if we were to uproot the entrenched PDP and its evil tendencies. The first party that came to mind was the CPC which like us, was resolutely opposed to the PDP. 

“Immediately after the elections, Hon. Femi Gbajabiamila led a team of ACN boys to Bola Tinubu and me to suggest support for Hon. Aminu Tambuwal, a PDP member from Sokoto, to become the Speaker of the House of Representatives. 

In the meantime, President Goodluck Jonathan was pressing for a government of national unity, with a bid of sucking ACN into manipulative extinction.” 

Another major revelation from the book is the involvement of a former National Security Adviser and a Sokoto prince, Colonel Sambo Dasuki (rtd) in the presidential project of now President Muhammadu Buhari preparatory to the 2011 presidential election against then incumbent Jonathan. 

Jonathan defeated Buhari in the contest, before Buhari triumphed in their replay in 2015. 

Interestingly, Dasuki would go on to become Jonathan’s most senior security adviser, but also ended up spending 1,484 days in detention, while being prosecuted by the Buhari administration, for alleged corruption while serving in the Jonathan administration. 

He was eventually released on December 24, 2019, after many court orders for his released had been spurned by the administration. He was accused of siphoning fund meant for arms to fight insurgency in the North-East. 

The author, however, paid the embattled former security chief compliments for his role in facilitating a merger between ACN and CPC in the build-up to the 2011 poll, to defeat Jonathan. 

He said, “The reaction of CPC to this letter (to CPC from ACN and published on the same page), began the failed negotiation between ACN and CPC which attracted further intervention by some national leaders like General Babangida, Atiku Abubakar and others. 

“This eventually crashed at the threshold of the 2011 presidential elections which President Jonathan of the PDP won again. 

“The efforts of the former National Security Adviser– Colonel Sambo Dasuki is worth mentioning in this political bridge-building attempt between ACN and CPC. Dasuki was then in support of Buhari becoming the presidential candidate of the alliance. 

“Sambo Dasuki was coming around, begging us, to support Buhari’s presidential aspiration. Nuhu Ribadu, whom we had earlier chosen as our presidential candidate in the ACN, said he was ready to step down for Buhari. He said when he accepted to run, he did not know that Buhari was also interested in running.”

https://tribuneonlineng.com/how-we-foiled-jonathans-effort-to-make-mulika-adeola-speaker-akande-reveals/

aribisala0:
The Heads of the Senate and Speaker House of Reps are not GEJ's to give. Are they appointed by the president?

If it was that easy Saraki would not have become Senate President Let us stop this fiction that GEJ had any control over the process.


Marginalisation is about those positions that GEJ himself appointed . Speaker was sorted out within a few weeks
He was in office for 4 years what did he do to make Yoruba feel they had a stake in his government

SO are you telling that Jonathan decided to punish the Yoruba people because Mulikat lost out
Having missed out on Mulikat who was the most senior Yoruba appointee in GEJ's government?


What revelation ? Something that we have known all along?
There are over a dozen Mulikat threads on Nairaland . So how is that a revelation?
We voted him in 2011

We do not need to talk too much he did not benefit us we did not support his second term simples





All this eating kiolanut with bitter leaf will not bring him back

Olaideolayemi:
That's politic.. Politic beyond region..It also happened in 2003 during obj time..

aribisala0:
What we do is our business we did not see Mulikat as representing our interest and that is our call NOT yours
You are the shameless ones that want to be at the sentre at all cost
If you are old enough .

You will know how Awolowo played his politics
You were happy to be Vice President and Speaker under Shagari whilst we had nothing
We would rather have nothing and play opposition politics
You are still the one crying there is no federal presence in your region
There is nothing like southerners
Ibos have been voting how they like since day one

Remove that word betray from your vocabulary

When we look at facts it is childish, dishonest and sentimental

In 1960 , the first republic the Ibos went into coalition with Fulani

I challenge you to bring evidence where anyone talked of betrayal


Southern betrayal blablabla


In 1965, 1979 and 1983 the Ibos alway did deals woth the Fulani that kept them at the centre and Yoruba in opposition

No one talked of south

or southern betrayal

In 1993 Ibos did not vote Abiola

So why this last minute fraternity

When did this southern unity start?

There is no business to talk about betrayal from a people that never entered any deal with you and whom you have alway antagonized politically


So do not talk about North and how they play their politics how is that our business and how is our business your headache

Rugaria:
Have you noticed that the MODs are finding it hard to take this thread to the front page?
They're busy talking about wizkid and one man complaining about his wife on the FP...
Why is this thread not on front page? Your guess is as good as mine...

Ovamboland:
The real marginalisation was in lack of investment in infrastructure not temporary appointment. A speaker that can be removed the next day by a majority of his colleagues can't be so crucial to SW strategic interest except for control and elections.
Appointments will come and go but infrastructure remains.

The argument of lack of appointment is just good for visual appeal just like SE is using it against Buhari. Ahhh! E ma gbami, Oloun,ani mo ti gbo yin,se..kilo se yin!? Mo fi Oloun bee,efimisile,thank you.

aribisala0:
Why are you taking panadol for our headache?

Will you tell us what to want?

It s no expose . It is what we wanted .It is stale there are dozens of threads with Mulikat this Mulikat that all over Nairaland
What is new that we did not know before

Ovamboland:
Betray like how? Did they sign any agreement with Jonathan and betrayed him? If Jonathan failed to reach agreement with ACN by giving them what they want won't they go elsewhere?
SE aligned with Fulani via Atiku to get VP and gave their best shot in 2019 but failed, is anyone lamenting their choice? I have heard you. Thank you very much. Can you now please go away?!

aribisala0:
Exposed truth?


Good morning to you

There is no news here

We have been aware of this for ever

I only commented on this desperate thread so that your lies do not go unanswered


When we were discussing this thread for years
https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan

Your people tried to divert attention with the Mulikat Issue.

IT IS NOT NEW

We have always supported that action

Bottomline in the SW PDP was a minority and could not produce a Speaker

Ovamboland:
You want to use 1D thinking to face people thinking in 3D. That's why your people are confused, without direction and leaderless. Even your traditional VP position is now a very long thing to attain.

You will always dig both hands to eat anything that comes your way without pausing to see if it's a trap or good for you.

Ovamboland:
You are not well, because they did not support PDP politics and eliminated them from the center with their strategy? Is that not what politics is about? Was anything illegal in not supporting PDP leadership choice for speaker?