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butterflyl1on:
CC dalaman consider the bolted. Does that make him a Christian? Simply because he says he is does it make him one even if he did not state why he says he is a Christian?

Can you now see how ignorant you have been? Here the OP declares himself as Christian as a claim but not a reality.

You would do well to again note the difference.

Are you a christian in reality? Are you like Christ in all things?

butterflyl1on:
Stop lying to your daughter.

Her saying she is a Christian at age 10 doesn't make her one. Is she LIKE CHRIST IN ALL THINGS?

IF SHE ISNT THEN YOU HAVE BEEN DECEIVING HER INTO LETTING HER BELIEVE AND DECLARE WHAT SHE IS NOT.

like I said, Nobody inherits Christianity and it isn't genetically passed on. Deal with your ignorance and stop deceiving yourself

. Are you like Christ in all things? Why then are you deceiving yourself and claiming to be what you are not? Christianity is not only inherited it is even forced upon people.

This one had me laughing. Butterflyl1on comes to mind.

butterflyl1on:
LMAO maybe if you had also asked me to state my profession at that age I would have told you I am a super hero and specifically superman

I guess watching too many cartoons or super heroes at that age can make one dream big right? But does that make me superman?

Children at age 10 have religions. My daughter is 10, if you ask her her to tell you what her religion is, she'll gladly say she's a christian. She can tell you in her little way what it means to be a christian. I know 10 year old mechanic / carpenter apprentice, if you ask them what their job is they'll tell you they are mechanics or carpenters. Watching TV is not a profession.

Maybe next time you see a 10 year old, ask him to define reproduction for you and when he does, feel free to accept what he says as genuine knowledge

A ten years old can be taught what reproduction is, and if asked will explain to you in his/her own way based on his/her own understanding.

For the rest of your comments again all I can say is one word IGNORANCE

(IN CASE YOU HAVENT NOTICED, I AM DELIBERATELY REFRAINING FROM ENGAGING YOU IN ANYTHING LENGHTY TODAY BECAUSE YOU ARE SIMPLY A WASTE OF TYPING ENERGY WITH YOUR DEEP ROOTED IGNORANCE)

Seems you didn't take your drugs today. Hurry up and take them. Mental issues are not to be toyed with.

butterflyl1on:
You keep dumping tons of ignorance on me

Shebi you've given christianity a classification and made it not to be a religion na. Well done.

butterflyl1on:
One word for all you just ranted and projected up there is IGNORANCE!

no wonder your arguments are always nonsensical

You mean your nonsense that christianity isn't a religion abi? Tell me the classification that christianity belongs to na since according to you it is no longer a religion.

butterflyl1on:
I repeat I was not a Christian at that age. Christianity entails a certain level of SPIRITUAL MATURITY AND WILLINGNESS TO ACCEPT ALLTHE BAGGAGE IT COMES WITH BE IT GOOD OR BAD. CHRISTIANITY IS NOT GENETICALLY PASSED ON. NEITHER IS IT AN HEIRLOOM YOU PASS ON FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION.

You were, if I had asked you to tell me your religion at that age you would have stated that you were a christian. Christianity is passed from generation to generation. In fact we know the history of christianity our ancestors were forced to accept the religion, some werrands even killed because they resisted. Millions in south America were killed because they refused to accept the religion, force and coresion have been used to make people accept the religion. History says you don't know what you are talking about. If all the christian parents that have kids under the age of 5 refuse to take them to sunday school or mention anything about christianity to them till they are 21 years old, the number of christians in the world will reduce by 70 percent in the next 50 years.

why is it that something so simple is ALWAYS very hard for you to grasp?

I suppose at age 10 I was being taught Leviticus and Isaiah and Daniel and all the other extremely deep prophetic books . I must have been a genius then to have fully grasped them at such-and-such age (even if I was taught)

My alleged teacher must probably have started the lessons from when I was perhaps 5 years old

Leviticus, Isiah and Daniel does not make one a christian. Wheb I was a kid I was taight that"For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son and whom ever believes in him". . . This is what makes one a christian. The belief that God gave his son to die for humanity's salvation, who ever believes that and accepts it and does what Jesus said he should do is a christian not Isiah or Leviticus and Daniel. . . 10 years old are christians so long as they truly believe that Jesus was sacrificed for them and try to follow his comandements. This is what is taught everywhere.

I NEVER discovered Christian theology. I DISCOVERED CHRIST. For the umpteenth time you would do well to note the difference.

You did, you can not separate christian theology and Christ. If you disagree them tell me how you can separate the two.

butterflyl1on:
Same way your lack of any credible qualifications linked to religion, science, philosophy, et al ALWAYS makes you say trash.

How did the believe in Jesus give birth to maths, biology, chemistry and physics? You can go and plagiarize from any christian blog or apologetic site and drop it here for us. We are waiting.

butterflyl1on:
WRONG!

I was born into a religious home and not a Christian home. Again you would do well to note the difference.

Being a Christian had no link to being religious and neither does being born into a church going presumed God loving home make one a Christian. It's like saying being born a human means I must always stand erect and not sit or crawl or bend over.

WE CHOOSE WHO WE BECOME. NOBODY IN CHRISTIANITY IS MADE TO BECOME A CHRISTIAN. you can be made to be religious but like I said, being a Christian has no link to being religious.

I hope this clear explanation I am giving you for the umpteenth time would make you cease from making such silly assumptions again.

Christianity is a religion and that puts an end to all the nonsene you are saying. Until you can put christianity under a classification that is not regarded as a religion then you can take your pitiful and nonsense talk somewhere else. Christianity remains a religion and it is among the religion of the world that people practice.

This your statement that you were born into a religious home and not a christian home is a FALSE dichotomy. We're your parents Hindus or Muslims? They were christians as such you were born into a christian home, they might be lukewarm christians but they were christians all the same . It's funny how you guys dismiss people's christianity but run to it when you need it. If your parents where great scientist that made very important scientific discoveries you'll be quick to tell us that they were christians the way you rush to grab scientist that are christians regardless of whether they were lukewarm christians or not. You are a joke.

You were made to become a Christian through systematic indoctrination over the years, at age 10 if I had asked you what your religion was you would have told me you were a christian, you would have told me that you were taught about Jesus in Sunday school and would have told me a few among the popular bible stories. You did NOT just wake up and discover the bible and it's stories, you were indoctrinated with it during the course of your life by others and that is the fact.

Studies after studies have shown that a great majority of the people that are practicing what ever religion we have today were born into it and that remains the fact. Your lies and spin will never change that but only make you a laughing stock.

butterflyl1on:
I know some gist is hard for your Lilly liver to swallow but sadly for you we all do not have to be like you.

Nobody taught me anything. Who would? In a religious home where none was a Christian who would teach me about Christianity there? Maybe you were the one who taught me then when you were an alleged ardent Christian before you now switched to your latest atheist cruise ship

You said you were religious at age 10 but you weren't a christian. What religion did you belong to at that age? Who would you asked, your parents or Sunday school techers must have taught you about your religion. You had to be indoctrinated with the stories at an early age for it to make any meaning to you.

Or are you still going to lie that you discovered the bible and christian theology on your own without anybody teaching you anything about it?

butterflyl1on:
The opinion was not of a blogger but an interviewed guest who has a PhD in the History and Philosophy of Science from the University of Cambridge and is the author of The Genesis of Science: How the Christian Middle Ages Launched the Scientific Revolution (published in the UK as God’s Philosophers: How the Medieval World Laid the Foundations of Modern Science).

Why not read it. Is it because it's a blog? Leave wetin dem write for motor body enter motor.

Having a PhD in history and philosophy doesn't mean that a person can NOT say thrash. The guy did NOT provide any reason to show how christianity gave birth to science. How did the believe in Jesus give birth to biology, chemistry and physics?

Even the comments from the blog page showed that most people disagreed with his opinion you can read the comments yourself.

butterflyl1on:


Here comes the mental projector again who cares not tell the difference between A Christian and being born religious

Ask him to tell you what the word Christian means and then try to tie that to how being born into a religious home would make you become what the word CHRISTIAN means he would start stuttering and trying to dribble with words.

Already see him using the expression CHRISTIAN and RELLIGION all in one comment (confusion galore)

He Is even using Islam and Buddhism to compare Christianity. Makes you wonder how come they never agree if each can be used to define or explain the other.

Talk on Christianity alone and I will take you seriously ogbeni. Your confusion keeps growing in leaps and bounds daily

You've not demonstrated that majority of the people that practice what ever religion they are practicing aren't doing it because they were born into it. Almost all adherents of all religions do that because they happen to be born into the culture and environment. You were born into a christian home that is why you are a christian today and that is the fact.

butterflyl1on:
Ignorance is dancing skelewu in your veins.

http://blogs.nature.com/soapboxscience/2011/05/18/science-owes-much-to-both-christianity-and-the-middle-ages

So the opinion of a blogger is what you are throwing at me as answers to the questions I asked you abi? Well done.

butterflyl1on:
I was Religious at age 10 but not a Christian. Again you would do well to note the difference

What religion were you practicing by then and if you were asked what your religion was, what religion would have been your answer?

Besides nobody taught me about anything. I discovered for myself and chose by myself and have borne the consequences of MY CHOICE by myself.

Ohh you just woke up one day and discovered that the bible, christianity and the stories and doctrines associated with it without anybody teaching you anything. Wow, continue with the lies, am listening.

I know you think everyone is Lilly livered and spineless like you who is tossed about by every wind of doctrine. Just like now that the wind of atheism is your latest cruise ship.

Is this part of the relapsing mental illness?

butterflyl1on:
Nobody is born a Christian and nobody is indoctrinated into Christianity. To become a Christian is not by compulsion but by a free will choice based on love.

I guess you were probably also indoctrinated into whatever you are right or did you choose?

What religion were you practicing at age 10? How did you get to know about the religion and who taught you about it?

butterflyl1on:
And how does being a Christian disrupt your quest for inquisitiveness? Or do you not know that religion birthed science? Do you not know that those who have won the most awards for scientific breakthroughs were religious?

If your only claim is talking donkeys and flying horses then I find that absurd and such a silly talk.

Being a secular humanist or a religious skeptic is healthy. Even Christians can be skeptical so no biggie.

Religion did NOT give birth to science. Which religion gave birth to science and what part of the religious belief and doctrine was used in giving birth to science? Tell us pls.

butterflyl1on:
Don't mind that neophyte all they know is talking about how people were indoctrinated into Christianity so ignorantly without even realizing that being born into a Christian home does not make anyone a Christian. Being BORN AGAIN is what makes anyone a Christian (Christian means like Christ).

The way you always lie with a straight face, eh. You are a christian today ONLY because you are born into that culture and environment. What you call being born again is just a full acceptance of the religious culture. If you were born into a Shia muslim Family in Tehran you'll be a Shia muslim. If you were born into a Hindu family living in Bangalore or Mumbai you'll be a Hindu, your being a christian today has everything to do with your location and time in history. If you were born 350 years ago to your african ancestors you would have been an animists practising the religion of your ancestors . Being born into a christian home is the reason 99% of christians today are christians.

Buddhists, Muslims, Pagans, Atheists who became born again Christians I guess they got indoctrinated from home by their parents.

So much ignorant comments flowing freely from atheists since last night.

Studies after studies have shown that the percentage of religious convents is so insignificant to the over all population of any religion. Birthrate is what drives religious adherence all over the world and that is the fact.

butterflyl1on:

The mental breakdown is now causing forced mental projections to occur.

The guy wants me to believe his words by fire

You must be on some cheap weed

It has nothing to do with belief. Because your God exist only in your head you'll always have to speak for it and tell others about it because it exist only inside your head and can't do anything for itself in reality.

butterflyl1on:
Hahahahaha more mental breakdown. See ranting over a non existent God

And Mr omnipresent and omniknowest somehow declares I am a failure

Let's read more of your rants over this alleged non existent God shall we?

It's a fact. No God that exist in reality will depend on a failure like you to do anything for it. You've been trying to serve as your God's mouth piece only because it exist in your head and no where else.

butterflyl1on:
Na WA o

He wants me to SHOW him something about a God he already declared DOES NOT EXIST

More mental breakdown

Of couse it doesn't that's why you can't show me anything about it. That you are speaking on it's behalf and defending it is enough evidence that it exist only inside your head . No God that exist will rely on a failure like you to do anything for it talk more of trying to defend it or let others know about its existence.

butterflyl1on:
tirade
noun
a long, angry speech of criticism or accusation

Let me show you what a tirade looks like from your own comment.




See ranting and mega tirade o.

All over an alleged non existent God

Everything I've stated about Yahweh are facts. Show me what Yahweh has do on it's own (with evidence ) without human input. It can not even tell it's stories, it had to rely on humans to do it for him.

butterflyl1on:
They said it that men who are mad never admit to being mad but only see everyone else as the mad ones.

You are the one vomiting tirades and here you are saying I should now go ahead with my tirades?

Na wa o. See confusion galore.

Stating the fact that your God can't do anything on it's own but has to rely on humans to do everything for it is now a tirad abi ? Continue.......

butterflyl1on:
Like I said, RIP to your mental capacity

Any evidence to show that tithing has anything to do with our reality as humans? Are those who tithe financially better than those who don't? Your God claimed he'll abundantly bless those who tithe. Any evidence to support this claim in reality?

butterflyl1on:


See ranting over a God he does not believe exists. See vexation over an imaginary being

Misery oh misery you are really torturing this demented soul o

Remember you were the one that happily said those that mock your God deserve tirades thrown at them . Why should you be the one throwing tirades at people that mock a God that is all powerful and can do all things, only a God that lives inside you demented head will depend on a failure like you to throw tirades at people on its behalf.

You can now go ahead with your tirades and rants on behalf of your God.

butterflyl1on:
Even if I type it in kindergarten English you still would never understand it.

RIP to your mental capacity

Tithing has nothing to do with our reality as humans. No evidence whatsoever to show that those who tithe do better than those who don't I what ever way. Tithing has nothing to do with our reality as human beings.

butterflyl1on:
You have demonstrated that Yahweh is not a being of infinite knowledge how? How have you demonstrated that Yahweh does not exist outside the pages of the Bible and the imaginations of people He inspired to put down scriptures?

Yahweh like all the Gods that men have created exist ONLY inside the pages of the story books the men have written about him. He can't do anything on his own. There is nothing Yahweh can do on his own ever. It's you the believers that have been indoctrinated in the Yahweh stories that will have to do everything for it. You'll have to spread it's words even though he is alleged to be all powerful and can do all things but some how it can not spread it's words on its own. You'll have to argue with people and claim that Yahweh exist even though he is alleged to ne every where but can not prove it's existence to others, you'll have to even fight people and throw tirades at them when they mock your all powerful Yahweh because it can't do anything by itself even though it is all he'd that he is all powerful.

You believe in this all powerful entity that can't do ANYTHING for it self. It has to rely on those that believe and were indoctrinated with its stories to do everything for it.

Demonstrate just one thing that Yahweh can do on its own outside the pages of the stories written about it? There is NOTHING it can do on its own. You can only claim it can do things bUT outside your empty claims there is nothing it can ever do because it remains imaginary. Yahweh inspired the scriptures just as Allah sent an angel to recite the Koran to a desert dwelling illiterate. There's nothing new there. .

butterflyl1on:
Educating people indeed

Ask an atheist if God exists he will say I DONT KNOW but ask if Yahweh exists he will say an emphatic NO.

Bunch of confused loonies. They should first of all possess infinite knowledge to know that a being of infinite knowledge does not exist. When they do you can give me a buzz.

Person no get sense e dry claim to be Einstein. Mtcheew! Educate fire.

You have demonstrated that Yahweh is a being of infinite knowledge how? How have you demonstrated that Yahweh exist outside the pages of the bible and the imaginations of people that made up the mythical and fictional stories and wrote it down?

butterflyl1on:
Oh lord see display of ignorance and stark zero understanding on full display.

If you understood my comment you still wouldn't type this rubbish above.

From Gods perspective there is absolutely no confusion. Simply put, you are the confused one.

Tithing is for our sake and not for Gods sake.
Tithing or a lack of it does not diminish God it rather sets us several steps back with God since we refuse to show love IN KIND to our brethren then how can we show Him love?

Jesus Never spoke against tithing because it is a thing of FREE WILL. You can choose to give a tenth which is otherwise known as tithe or you can choose to give ALL.

The Bible declared in 1st Corinthians 19-20

Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies

If you are no longer Your Own then all you are and have belongs to God and if You cannot as a sign of obedience give a tenth to those whom you can see how then can you give all to a God whom you cannot see.

If you wish to tithe, do so but if you wish not to due to a grievance you have but are still a believer then never withhold from anyone but live a life of obedience in GIVING.

You can give MERCY, KINDNESS, PEACE, JOY, HOPE, SALVATION, PATIENCE, GOODNESS etc.

All are a part of your giving in Christ and whatsoever you do to the least you do to Christ.

Nobody is wrong. Just egotistical. God sees all as right.

Go to the tithe threads that abound and end the squabbles. Why are you telling me? What has paying tithe got to do with our reality as humans? Go and end the squabbles and stop telling me nonsense. If no body is wrong then why are they squabbling and calling each other names? When did God tell you that he sees the opposing positions as right? Why don't you go and tell them?

butterflyl1on:
You obviously still have absolutely zero understanding of what I said which is why you made the above comment

If you had an iota of understanding of what I said then you would not have said the above.

Ogbeni carry your ignorance and infect some gullible loafer like you. I am too sound and well rounded for your mentally devolved self.

You do not believe God exists, you do not believe the words found in the Bible, you do not believe in tithing but see as you carry am for head like hot akara.

Abeg carry your jonzing self and swerve

There is a VERY big confusion amongst sincere christians when it comes to the issue of tithing. The be fought, called each other names, famed each other to hell, among many other bitter quarrels over this tithe issue. What I want you to do is go there and settle it by showing them the true biblical position and let's see how you'll fare instead of throwing nonsense at me that I don't believe. Tithing is nonsense and has no real application in real life. There is no evidence what so ever to show that those who tithe do well financially than those who don't and thy is the reality. I just want you to go and engage your christian brothers and sisters over the tithe issue that has generated a lot of confusion among christians.

butterflyl1on:
Hahahahahaha the guy is looking for the literal word TITHING in that scripture

Do you see why I said your mumu is on fleek?

Offering = giving
Tithing= giving

If you sow sparingly you shall reap sparingly but if you sow bountifully you shall reap bountifully.

Tithe is sowing, offering is sowing. A seed must get a harvest.

The giver of the seed is God.
The giver of the harvest is God

So God who gives you the very seed does not need your seed but his creation do and Jesus said in Mathew 25:40

And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me

Same scriptures declared in 1st John 4:20

Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen

We are God's TEST of love. Tithing or offering is the tool for this test while we are the recipient. If we can prove our GENUINE UNADULTERATED love for one another then we have God's approval and this was why Jesus gave the golden rule in Luke 10:27

Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.

So in other words Love your neighbour same way you claim you love God.

I am sure I have further confused your carnal mind

However this is elementary for any new born again believer.

Nobody literarily gives tithe to God but we give it to one another as proof of love for one another especially those who need it and this includes PASTORS, PREACHERS OF THE GOSPEL, THE POOR, THE WIDOWS, etc.

When we do this in obedience then as Jesus said, we are doing it unto him.

Go to the tithe threads that abound here on the religious section and state the bible position, you'll put an end to the endless bickering and confusion among the christians there instead of throwing nonsense at me.

He was one of the very first atheist I encountered, I began by hating him because I got to know about him when I was a christian sometime in 2007 the hate later changed to great admiration as my view changed. I liked him and truly respect his views.

butterflyl1on:
Eeyah. The puerile minded and puerile mouthed and puerile fingered person is you of course

How is it that you fail to understand the simple scripture I posted earlier which CLEARLY addresses your questions. Let me post it again. Maybe due to the devolution of your mental strength as an atheist you could not understand it at first read so maybe if you read it 10 more times some sense may fall on you.

2nd Corinthians 9: 4-10

4 For if any Macedonians come with me and find you unprepared, we—not to say anything about you—would be ashamed of having been so confident. 5 So I thought it necessary to urge the brothers to visit you in advance and finish the arrangements for the generous gift you had promised. Then it will be ready as a generous gift, not as one grudgingly given.

6 Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. 7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work. 9 As it is written:

“They have freely scattered their gifts to the poor;
their righteousness endures forever.”[a]
10 Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness

Tithing isn't mentioned anywhere in the verse. The verse talks about giving cheerfully that is different from tithing. You are to go to any of the tithing threads and give the biblical position on tithing and end the endless back and forth between christians that are confused and constantly calling each other names because of tithing. Your man Felixmoron has been called all sorts of names (he too has called christians names ) because of tithing. Go and tell them the biblical position and end the dispute let's see. Stop throwing meaningless bible verses at me.