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butterflyl1on:
LMAO you do not believe in the "bible" yet you have spent 8 years of your life on nairaland arguing what you do not believe even when nobody directed such scriptures at you or your name was not mentioned in it. But for some reason any time scripture is mentioned to buttress an OP you appear and pounce on it.

Your life must be riddled with misery if this is all you are about.

I cannot even begin to imagine the amount of time you have wasted outside nairaland still on the same moronic mission.

By the way, NOBODY BELIEVES IN THE BIBLE. PEOPLE BELIEVE IN THE WORDS OF GOD CONTAINED IN THE BIBLE. you would do well to note the difference because many satanic beings such as you have tried bringing out their own versions of the Bible and adulterating it by so doing so God foreknowing this, said in 2nd Corinthians 3:6

He hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

The letter is the book but the spirit is the life in the words found in the book.

True Christians take the life the words provide and hold them high. Something you would never know about.

I knew you would be extremely ignorant of the scripture I gave in my last comment and that shows that indeed the natural minded man such as you can NEVER understand the things of the spirit so why ask for an explanation for something you have no idea about and yet you claim the explanation is not for you but for other Christians yet you ended it by saying "let's see if your spiritual talk isn't mumbo jumbo and nonsense."

So who is the LET US IN your comment if you are not among those to analyse it.

Your mumu is on fleek.

The bible remains the creation and works of men. That is the reality and fact of the matter. All this puerile rants of yours will not change that fact.

A simple question was asked and instead of demonstrating what you claim you went off blowing empty air.

You are to provide the biblical position on tithing so that any christian that is confused and reads it will ne convinced. You've failed to do that b cause you know you can't but chose to go about ranting about something that is off point.

butterflyl1on:
2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 and every type of evil to deceive those who are dying, those who refused to love the truth that would save them. For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie. Then all who have not believed the truth but have taken pleasure in unrighteousness will be condemned

Trying to break down tithing to you would be like trying to explain why the sun shines so brightly to a baby yet in the womb who has no idea about the existence of the sun to even start with.

The long and short of our lives when it comes to tithing or giving is found in 2nd Corinthians 9: 4-10

4 For if any Macedonians come with me and find you unprepared, we—not to say anything about you—would be ashamed of having been so confident. 5 So I thought it necessary to urge the brothers to visit you in advance and finish the arrangements for the generous gift you had promised. Then it will be ready as a generous gift, not as one grudgingly given.

6 Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. 7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work. 9 As it is written:

“They have freely scattered their gifts to the poor;
their righteousness endures forever.”[a]
10 Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness

Feel free to analyse that scripture from every angle be it for or against and let me know what you arrive at.

You are empty as usual. I don't believe in the bible. You are to use the spritual knowledge and tell your fellow christians the true position of tithing according to the bible. Why are you addressing me?

Is the verse above the true position of tithing according to the bible ? How many christains that are lost in the tithe wars will read it and form a position one way or the other?

Maezara:
Lol. See this fool. You are a very senseless bastard.

When you want to cross the road, do you cross by faith or by sight?

He is deluded. Faith is nothing but holding a belief that is not supported by empirical evidence, it is a belief held on the basis of desire and psychological need rather than reality. Faith is leap that goes beyond what is justified. If there was proof, verifiable evidence, to support the biblical version of events, tgey won't need faith. Faith is just their excuse to keep their delusions alive.

butterflyl1on:
Do you see why you are deluded?

The Bible is a book which contains accounts of both physical and spiritual occurrences. If you have Physical evidence why would you not also have spiritual evidence?

Your sources are bunk and not the Bible. When next you speak of evidence, make sure you have the complete package or consider yourself a móron.

Spiritual abi? When you guys lose out and have nothing reasonable to say you go down the spiritual route so that you can keep your delusions alive.

Is it not the same spiritual brouhaha that is responsible for the over 30 thousand sects in Christianity today with different doctrines, opinions and interpretation of the bible?

Ok pls use your spiritual knowledge and tell your christians the true position of tithing according to the bible , only then will we know that you have an idea of what you are saying and your spiritual talk isn't nonsense talk. Go ahead explain and convince your christians about the true position of the bible and what your Gof wants when it comes to tithes let's see if your spiritual talk isn't mumbo jumbo and nonsense. Go ahead .

KingEbukasBlog:
If you cannot provide an alternative to God as the best explanation for why anything exists , then it is baseless , idiotic and shallow to call God imaginary .

Of course , I don't expect you to understand how this refutes your stance since you are an atheist .

So Yahweh that later evolved to Jesus based on stories written by ancient men whom you believe to be God is the reason why anything exist abi? Well done.

butterflyl1on:
Colossians 2:8 -

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

See, you keep proving my point. You have no God but other men. You are so foolish that you accept the writings and ramblings of other deluded men as the writings of some God because you were indoctrinated and nothing else. The writers of the bible and their delusions remain your God and that is the fact.

You were warned long before you became an atheist even while you were yet a Catholic school but because you lacked a relationship with God and knew not his word, you got taken.

Responding word for word to a mentally devolved being like you would be my downfall so since you are now totally at home with your folly, who am I to deny you such a pleasure?

Your mental illness always makes you see things that are never there. Who told you that I was ever a Catholic? I've attended catholic mass but I was never a Catholic. You delude your self into thinking that you are in a relationship with any God when in reality all you are doing is imagining that you are in a relationship based on what some ancient men imagined and wrote down. Keep deluding yourself with the mythology, fiction and folklore of ancient people that you don't even know.

KingEbukasBlog:
Well enough to know that are you are ignorant and confused as an atheist

As a theist you are deluded indoctrinated and totally confused. It shows in every word you type here.

butterflyl1on:
For 8 years or so all you have been doing has been hugging and bathing and shitting and farting on nairaland religion section with your monotonous atheist noise as if religion or atheism revolves around you

What sort of insatiable megalomaniac are you?

Send dem no send you yet you are still spewing spit everywhere for 8 years on nairaland. If you had applied half the time you have spent on nairaland as an atheist monotonously talking rubbish perhaps by now your life would have been aired on CNN as a great achiever but na lie. All you know is repeatedly regurgitating crap as the garbage in garbage out recycling atheist you are.

It seems that is the inheritance you wish to leave for your children. Useless and time wasting atheist mumuism must be your best legacy which you aim to leave behind for them by fire by force.

Eyah, seems the mental illness is fully back. I hope you get cured soon. You are so foolish, inane and stupid so much so that you get angry on behalf of an alleged omnipotent being, you even said that when people insult this alleged omnipotent being you'll give them the tirade they deserve. Only an imaginary and useless omnipotent being that exist inside your useless and mentally retarded head will depend on a total failure like you to throw tirades on others on it's behalf. Go take you drugs and see if your mental issues will be resolved and allow your imaginary God to fight it's own battles.

KingEbukasBlog:
Martinez19 Why am I being mentioned here ? Not like if I explain even in the simplest way you'll understand I mean you are an atheist . You are not expected to make sense or elicit reasonable thoughts . Wallow in the usual mediocrity and shallowness mbok .

Bia , take your time .

How many reasonable thoughts and how much sense have you elicited since coming here on nairaland religion section?

joshnes:
He deserves to be praised, it is obvious you don't praise God, so why the hate on His praise? Anything/anybody praising God, is only fulfilling their purpose of creation.

So human beings were created for the purpose of praising a God that is a narcissist? I wonder why we regard things as bad when humans do it but consider them as good when it comes to God. Will you consider a human that loves endless praise from other humans as a good thing? Will you consider a human being that creates robot solely for the purpose of endlessly praising him a good thing?

If people kill each other we consider it a bad thing but when God does it as we read in stories we claim it's good, we even claim it's good when God burns people in fire forever because of unbelief, but will conside any himam that does that the most vile of all humans.

What kind of nonsense is that?

Zenithpeak:
They all believe that there is GOD and know is name to be JEHOVAH, they prefer calling YAHWEH, they also believe strongly that He is the Almighty, the creator of heaven and the earth.

The problem is that, at some point in time in their lives, they felt he has offended them and they have vowed never to reconcile with Him. Isn't it funny, a pot fighting with the potter hmmmm.... They are always enraged and seeking for a means to take revenge on HIM or anything / anyone related to Him.

A time is coming one by one they will be realising their errors and be willing to return. I pray the grace be extended to accommodate them.

How did you know that the name of God is Jehovah? Did any God personallyappear to you and tell you that or did you read it in man made books of mythology and fiction?

joshnes:
whatever God creates has a duty of bringing pleasure to Him whether angels or man, and worship does just that. Revelations 4:11 "....for thou hast created ALL things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created". The only thing God cannot do for Himself is to worship Himself. So He made man in His image and likeness to show forth His praise. Isaiah 43:21 "this people have I formed for myself, they will show forth my praise."

So your God is a narcissist? All he wants is to be praised every moment. The millions of angels that are constantly praising and worshiping him isn't enough for him. He still wants the praise of humans endlessly. What kind of insatiable narcissist is this?

The problem with this whole angel brouhaha that I fail to grasps is praising and worshiping God. Accordingto the story, we are told that angels have been worshiping and praising Yahweh for billions if not millions of years, yet Yahweh isn't satisfied he still wants humans to worship and praise him here on earth and when they also die and go to be with him in heaven. What kind of fuckkeed up nonsense is that?

Lie lie OP? Who told you that Nigeria's christians constitute 55% of the population.

Melahou:
only 10? anyway Nigeria dont even have up to 10 fighter jet sef

Nigerian has about 22 functional second generation fighter jets.

OP is insane.

Wow! Can't believe this man is 40.

They should practice incest the way their father Abraham was incestuous.

izzou:
We can only assume that their thinking abilities were like that of babies. God created Adam as an adult. If you remember, it was Adam that gave all the animals the name they bear.

You mean Adam named all the animals on earth? In what language? What name did he give the dinosaur? What about the Panda and the kangaroo?

According to Muslims, Jew are Muslims too but they don't know it.

~ Linda Kloss

Beckino:
About the science theory of the begining, I think it's possible. As for afterlife I don't think so.

"What is the point of living, if there IS an afterlife?". Like, if the afterlife is so much better (supposedly), then why live? The reason I don't believe in an afterlife is the reason I live now."(apart from the total lack of evidence to support it).
- Nejo Goldsmith

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Zither:


How is Jesus imaginary? Tell me the massacre of Christians in Rome a few years after Christ's crucifixion was imagined....or that the tomb where Christ was buried was imaginary.

Where is the tomb where Jesus was buried located?

"WHY GOD IS TOO CLEVER TO EXIST

By all accounts God is a very smart and extraordinarily capable dude. He can make miraculous things happen just by thinking about them. He can design immensely complex things, such as life, in a heartbeat.

He is so capable that, if he wanted me to believe in him, I would. Absolutely no doubt. But I don't believe in him so he either doesn't want me to or doesn't care.

It's not just me. There are 1.1 billion other non-believers, 1.1 billion Hindus, 0.5 billion Buddhists and 0.8 billion assorted others who don't believe in him either.

Even the 2.4 billion Christians and 1.6 billion Muslims who do believe in him, believe different things about what he is like, and how he wants us to behave. If such a capable god played a part in the belief of Christians and Muslims, you would expect, at the very least, they would agree on these very basic things. But they don't.

Even more telling is this simple fact; a significant proportion of non-believers were once believers. If such a capable god played a part in their belief, we should not expect anyone would be able to find reasons to subsequently abandon their God-given belief.

There is only one reasonable conclusion; god plays no part in human belief--we do the all heavy lifting on our own. And that leads to a second conclusion, god does not want us to believe in him, or doesn't care whether we do or not. But that conclusion cannot be right. If God has infinite love for us (or even a mild affection) he would care how we spend eternity and would be desperate to save us from eternal torture.

Surely, that leaves only one conclusion available to us. God does not exist. We invented gods and we invented religions, and we pass them from generation to generation.

Now that conclusion is coherent, and fully consistent will all the facts".

-Bill Flavell

mujahid777:
Lol...so you are saying it was not conquered from the imperial byzantine empire but from jews,and then they drove the jews from the lands....please continue shooting yourself on the foot
It's clear to everyone now that you guys are just jewish butt lickers.Do not bother mentioning me again.

Doesn't matter if it was conquered from the byzantine empire, the arabs are not the original owners of the land. The conquered it from others. It has been conquered from them. They should accept and move on.

mujahid777:
You didn't address a single point I said rather you repeated the same old nonsense.As clearly recorded in your bible,the jews were never the original inhabitants of the lands but they forcefully took over it and committed a genocide against its inhabitants-so dare not even use that as your remonstrance in support of the jews!.moreso the Arabs never kicked them out,in fact,it was the Arabs under Caliph Umar who allowed jews re-entry to jurusalem after the Romans and then xtians barred their entrance for centuries.
And quit using Egypt as a pathetic example to justify the jewish landgrabbing.The Arabs,themselves supported by the natives,conquered/liberated it from imperial byzantine empire whom also controlled Jerusalem and not the jews like you so falsely claim.What you call Arab Egyptians are merely it's native population who've assimilated Arabic culture and also micegenation now possesing it's current look.

Shut up! Arabs drove them away from the land. The Romans were the first to drive thme off the land before the Arabs did many years later. The Arabs did allow some of them back but the Arabs collected the land from them by force. The land does NOT belong to the Arabs. Just the way they conquered it from the Jews long ago, the Jews have conquered it back. You guys should go and report to Allah as you always do. The Jews are there to stay and there is nothing you slaves of Allah can do to them apart from throwing imaginary curses at them.

mujahid777:
The same for the Palestinians.
Israel was once their land and before them it was once someone else's land.America was once someone else's land...in fact much of the land today that seems indegenous to any people were once someone else's land.
All this offers one no right whatsoever to come up one day and displace the inhabitants of a territory because your forefathers once lived there.
The truth is you guys only support them out of your spite for Islam/Muslims and because you are told to worship jews.

Here is my problem with you ridiculous cry baby muslims. How did the muslims get to Jerusalem and start living there? The answer is they conquered it from the Jews. How did the muslim Arabs take over Egypt and made it their own? Same answer. They conquered it from the ancient people that owned Egypt.

Now to the Jews. The Jews owned Jerusalem at a time but they were kicked out firstly by the Romans and then later by the muslims. They later fought for the land and conquered it from the muslims. The muslims should accept it and move on. The muslims have conquered lands from others and made it theirs . Why should they refused to accept a land that has been conquered from them? They made Egypt their own through force, why are they refusing to accept when others use force to collect a land that they once had? If they want the Jews to leave Israel then they should also leave Egypt and hand it over to the people they collected the land from. Even the present day America is a conquered land. The visiting Europeans forcefully collected it from the natives and it has remained like that. The Jews collected the lands from the Arabs after they were attacked by the Arabs unprovoked in 1948, 1967 and in the early 1972.

The Arabs must accept that the land has been conquered from them just the way others have accepted. The Arabs conquered the lands from the Jews and drove them out, now the Jews have collected it back, the Arabs should accept and move on instead of crying like foolish babies. There is NOTHING they can ever do to Israel apart from to gather and curse them in the name of Allah. That's all the can do.

"40 Muslim countries military coalition held a meeting in Saudi Arabia today to form a strategy on US recognising Jerusalem as Israel's Capital.

By 40 votes to nil they agreed to curse Israel after Friday prayers."

~ Waseem Altaf

butterflyl1on:
Open your online Bible and read the scriptures already provided in my previous post and stop being silly.

Prophecy is happening live and in high definition and you are still spewing garbage.

It will all unfold vaaam right before your eyes. Siddon there dey ask zombie questions and arguing until sea swallow you.

You would only have yourself to blame when he comes like a thief in the night.

No bible verses were provided for those ones that was why I asked you to provide them. But as usual you came up empty. Be there deluding yourself. After all the same Jesus told his deciples that he was going to return during their life time and that they are to rub from one city to another when they face persecution before they finish going round the cities of Israel he'll return.

"When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes"-
Matthew 10:23

That was 2000 years ago. Be there waiting for a dead Jewish man to come and save your silly African ass.

I will not follow you and be dancing Alabama up and down the place. What you posted from the website is just a mish mash of nonsense supposition and make belief. Let's scrutinize them and see how well they'll stand.

butterflyl1on:
The Bible says God would one day re-gather the children of Israel back into their land from among many nations around the world. The Bible says they would be re-gathered in unbelief

The specifuc bible verse that says Yahweh will reg-gather the Jews from all over the world and they will regather in unbelief is what you are to provide.

The Bible warns God would then make Jerusalem a world trouble spot. The Bible says all nations of the world will turn against Israel.

Again the specific verse that says Jerusalem will be a world trouble spot is what you are to provide.

The Bible warns during this time ‘Gaza will be forsaken’ … and offers a stark warning. The Bible warns a coming world leader (the ‘Antichrist’) will rise out of 10 nations which once formed the Roman Empire and will enforce a peace plan or treaty (‘covenant’) upon Israel (‘upon the many’ – for many in Israel will be against it) … and then, after a 3½ year false peace, God warns He will send the children of Israel (and all the nations of the world) through a fiery trial unlike anything in the history of the world, to separate those who will turn back to God and His Word from those who have hardened their hearts against God and His Word (the ‘Apocalypse’).

Seriously what is this hot tripe?

Trump is the 45th President of the United States and Isaiah 45 talks about a king called Cyrus who would do exactly what Trump has done

Read Isaiah 45.

Still can't see where it says the leader of America will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel anywhere in Isaiah 45.

butterflyl1on:
Eeyah I feel your confusion. It is very palpable. Nations before now have been diplomatically silent about this issue.

Now Trump is fulfilling prophecy and same Wednesday that Trump declared his position and that of the United States, countries which were once silent now have found the boldness to stand in support and declare the same.

This is why called it a prophetic whirlwind

Watch the next few days. In fact tune in to CNN even now and catch up. The whirlwind is gathering momentum.


Extract from cnn

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You've refused to tell me what the prophecy is. Is the prophecy about Jerusalem being recognized as the capital of Israel or what? What exactly is the prophecy?

butterflyl1on:
Jonbellion and dalaman it has started

The prophetic whirlwind

Tell me the prophecy that says Czech Republic will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?

butterflyl1on:


Of course that's all you saw

Show me the prophecy and how the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital city of Israel by Trump mean anything or fulfills it.

butterflyl1on:
For those who are just talking ignorantly. Prophesy does not need to specifically mention names but can speficically talk about outcome.

I will post Zechariah 8 verse 1 to 16 again and highlight some major points


Zechariah 8 verse 1 to 16

1The word of the Lord Almighty came to me.

2 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “I am very jealous for Zion; I am burning with jealousy for her.”

3 This is what the Lord says: “I will return to Zion and dwell in Jerusalem. Then Jerusalem will be called the Faithful City, and the mountain of the Lord Almighty will be called the Holy Mountain.”

4 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Once again men and women of ripe old age will sit in the streets of Jerusalem, each of them with cane in hand because of their age. 5 The city streets will be filled with boys and girls playing there.”

6 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “It may seem marvelous to the remnant of this people at that time, but will it seem marvelous to me?” declares the Lord Almighty.

7 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “I will save my people from the countries of the east and the west. 8 I will bring them back to live in Jerusalem; they will be my people, and I will be faithful and righteous to them as their God.”

9 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Now hear these words, ‘Let your hands be strong so that the temple may be built.’ This is also what the prophets said who were present when the foundation was laid for the house of the Lord Almighty. 10 Before that time there were no wages for people or hire for animals. No one could go about their business safely because of their enemies, since I had turned everyone against their neighbor. 11 But now I will not deal with the remnant of this people as I did in the past,” declares the Lord Almighty.

12 “The seed will grow well, the vine will yield its fruit, the ground will produce its crops, and the heavens will drop their dew. I will give all these things as an inheritance to the remnant of this people. 13 Just as you, Judah and Israel, have been a curse[a] among the nations, so I will save you, and you will be a blessing.[b] Do not be afraid, but let your hands be strong.”

14 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Just as I had determined to bring disaster on you and showed no pity when your ancestors angered me,” says the Lord Almighty, 15 “so now I have determined to do good again to Jerusalem and Judah. Do not be afraid. 16 These are the things you are to do: Speak the truth to each other, and render true and sound judgment in your courts; 17 do not plot evil against each other, and do not love to swear falsely. I hate all this,” declares the Lord


For some reason Israel has ALWAYS been controversial as clearly indicated by the Bible and Jerusalem is key to its existence as God and the scriptures are always on about jerusalem.

Zechariah says IT MAY SEEM MARVELOUS TO THE PEOPLE OF THAT TIME BUT NOT TO GOD. today this is causing a major uproar the world over as they find it insane and indeed marvelous but God is unmoved. He has said it and it will SURELY come to pass.

Now God is about to cause a change using people. Before God does anything he sends a man. A man steadfast and unshaken. He may not be perfect but still has an assignment for such a time as it is required. Trump is in all forms such a man with no scrupples.

Zechariah 8 verse 7 says I WILL SAVE MY PEOPLE FROM THE COUNTRIES OF THE EAST AND THE WEST. This clearly shows the direction the major opposition would come from. All Arab (MIDDLE EASTERN) nations would rise against this but God has said LET THE HAND OF ISRAEL BE STRONG. in other words they should not fear or be moved. This prophecy is set in stone.

Scripture says in Zechariah as well that they should not be afraid at this move but rather let their hands be strong. This means there would be MAJOR OPPOSITION to this move and probably wars and rumours of war but all God wants is that they be strong and steadfast.

Jerusalem is taking its rightful place as declared by God. America is the worlds most powerful nation and a declaration from them is final when they put their foot down. If God could harden the heart of Pharaoh against the Israelites he can also harden the heart of Trump FOR ISRAEL.

one Pharaoh punished and another Pharaoh freed.

Glory be to God.

Where does it say that the US will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel ? All I saw is that zion will dwell in Jerusalem and that the people should be strong. What has that got to do with anything?