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butterflyl1on:
The joy is fulfilment of prophecy. Their lack of recognition of the Messiah shouldn't concern youthat aspect has been declared by God himself in same prophecy. He is gathering them.

Never ever ever think you know what God doesn't.

E go do you vaaam for eye.

He is gathering them? They've been gathered there for many years na. What specifically has the thrash written in Zechariah got to do with Trump's recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?

butterflyl1on:
The joy is fulfilment of prophecy. Their lack of recognition of the Messiah shouldn't concern you. Even that aspect has been declared by God himself in same prophecy. He is gathering them.

Never ever ever think you know what God doesn't.

E go do you vaaam for eye.

He is gathering them? They've been gathered there for many years na. What specifically has the thrash written in Zechariah got to do with Trump's recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?

butterflyl1on:
Dalaman come and read the very words of Trump and know how prophecy works. These words declared and duly signed as his final word on the matter shows that indeed his heart has been hardened FOR THE LIBERATION OF ISRAEL AND JERUSALEM same way God hardened the heart of Pharaoh to punish Israel.

One Pharaoh punished while another Pharaoh is setting free. When you are done, go back to my thread about this and correct your comment.

Trump is on an assignment by God himself. HE WILL NOT STOP UNTIL HE FULFILS IT.

GLORY GLORY TO GOD MOST HIGH.

Tell me in very clear terms what the prophecy is and how it has been fulfilled according to what you claimed was prophecied in zechariah.

butterflyl1on:
Scientific knowledge that is giving you migraine for having zero comprehension

Where did I display any lack of comprehension? You have so much scientific knowledge that you are always plagiarising when it comes to scientific discussion. Well done. Shameless akuya.

Seriously I fail to see the connection between this usless OP and the realities on ground. What has the United states recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel got to do with some ancient nonsense written in the book of Zechariah that says men and women of ripe old age will sit in the streets of Jerusalem, each of them with came in hand because of their age.The city streets will be filled with boys and girls playing there. What has the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel by the US git to do with anything. Did the bible say that the US will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel amidst rejection from other countries? Why are christians foolishly worried about Israel a country where majority of its citizens and non religious? Christians account for less than 4% of the population of the country. Jesus can not even convince the Jews who are the majority of the peple there that he is the messiah yet some deluded African is already having an erection over Jewish mythology written thousands of years ago.

The deluded end of days christian enthusiasts are already celebrating.

butterflyl1on:
In all my other posts on same thread can you point out anywhere I "stole" other people's thoughts?

Did I steal others thoughts with regards to the primordial soup? (I am sure you think that is a soup from bayelsa state)

Did I steal others thoughts when spoke about hydrolysis?

Did I steal others thoughts when I pointed out the errors in the fossil records and asked for the missing links?

I read to understand FIRST (something you have a deficiency of) before I make any comment. You are simply just sitting and twiddling your fingers on a thread that all that is being said on it looks like alien language to you as a science flunky you are.

Go and troll where you are also still ignorant about but would not quite be noticed unlike here where your ignorance sticks out like a sore thumb.

You can have the last word now and end outwith akuya or baaa baaa mee mee (words only thrown by people who lack expression)

All this meaningless talk simply because you were caught plagiarizing. You pointed errors in the fossil records and you haven't won a Nobel peace prize for your work abi? Seems your mental illness is fully back. You have scientific knowledge so much so that it's always when scientific discussion are going on that you are always caught engaging in plagiarism. Hide your head in shame and be quiet.

butterflyl1on:
I see you did not get the message in the post so did your normal job

Science is lost on you. Stick to what you know which is arguing Christianity using Islam.

Normal job of exposing your plagiarist ways abi? Shut up and be quiet. If you want to argue science use your OWN knowledge instead of stealing people's thoughts and posting them as yours. Shameless akuya .

butterflyl1on:
Amazing

So the primordial soup which some fluke energy brought about amino acids also had an already present living organism which further aided the process?

By the way isn't evolution meant to occur when amino acids bind and not when they break apart?

You are indeed confused. As long as amino acids cannot be stable in water and bind and would rather break apart then tell me how the first organism evolved over millions of years from an already failed process?

The farce is strong in you.

Plus these amino acids did not just come about but they somehow knew they had to be left handed amino acids in order to form life. You are aware that acids come in left hand and right hand varieties. Life is composed of 100% left hand amino acids. Anything that is alive, such as you, or trees, or sardines has no right-hand amino acids.

So much perfection in this game of chance and gamble played by nature during evolution

For amino acids to be assembled into something that leads to life (assuming both left and right-handed amino acids are available), requires a plan. It is a very complex process, which in life is controlled by RNA. RNA contains the information (instructions) for assembling amino acids into proteins to make life. So evolution science now postulates that RNA had to have existed before amino acids were created. Where does the RNA come from? They don't have an answer. But we know that information (RNA) does not come from nothing.

We know that information requires an intelligence. We can look at something that has been built, such as a house or Ferrari, and recognize that it took human intelligence (information) to create that object. No matter how many millions of years you allow, you will never see a house or Ferrari come into existence "naturally". It takes an intelligence to design and build them. We see the same thing when we look at life. Life requires information.

Prove me wrong.

Mr plagiarist. When next you plagiarize people's material do well to reference it and give them credit. You plagiarized from this website.

http://www.missiontoamerica.org/genesis/creation-email/questions-creation.html

You guys have no scientific knowledge of your own, only to be plagiarising people's work up and down .

chrisbaxtian:
you cannot compare ancient times with modern times! their cause was legitimate under the prevailing circumstances

You want us to believe ancient stories that lack evidence abi? Do you have any evidence to show that the ancient Jews got their instructions to commit genocide from God while ISIS didn't get theirs from Allah?

chrisbaxtian:
there is no justification other than their lust for power

And the ancient Jews weren't lusting after power abi? After all they claimed Yahweh placed them his followers above all others and referred to them as his chosen people. It seems to reward one's loyalty to Yahweh rather than acknowledge humanity's worth. What more can be more lust full than that?

Bad wife and poverty are like cancer. They will just be there with you breathing down your neck where ever you go. To have a bad wife and be poor is the lowest of all lows.

Akin1212:
You are very funny bro, your signature is much more funny.

God did not create the 2 trillion galaxies o, he only created the heavens and the earth. He did not create Mars, Jupiter, Uranus etc not to talk more of the remaining universes. He only created the heaven, his imaginary home, and the earth. Simple

And that is just as simple as it gets for simpletons like Butterflyl01

I wonder why people that believe in the opinion of ignotant ancient Jews that say their God created the heaven and the earth in 7 days and also created the earth before the sun, still have the audacity to mock others. DoctorAlien is no different from those that believe in a flat earth because he is a young earth creationist that believes the universe is about 6000 years old.

I don't waste time arguing with them, I simply just tell them to use God alone and explain creation to us. Since they believe that this God of the ancient Jews created we humans then they should use God alone and explain how the DNA came about or they should use God alone and explain to us the human respiratory system. Ask them such a question and see how they'll start crying baa baa baa, meh meh meh.

Akin1212:
Lol, these people don't know that they are hydrocarbons o. They are clay, let them remain as clay.

Clay who started to talk and move around because god breathed into them. I never knew god breathes.

You see, bro, there are some "ignorant knowledge" we need to start learning from these folks. Lmao

God allegedly created the Universe of over 2 trillion galaxies just to perform miracles in Middle East before the advent of cameras in mobile phones? Interesting!

hermosa7:
biblical prophecies coming true all before our eyes, eyewitness accounts of Jesus.

What are the biblical prohecies that are coming true before our very eyes today?

Who are the eye witness that accounted for anything about Jesus? Who are they and what evidence did they leave to show that anything they said about him is true, factual and verifiable?

Who among the people that wrote the Jesus stories was an eye witness?

Them dey commit suicide with knife?

Nigerian pastors are only interested in people giving them money and making them rich. They don't care much about social justice.

obiZEAL:
Tell me its St. Louis Catholic Church.
I remember my sis defending the priest, she said what he was smoking was medicinal.

St Louis Catholic Church in Jos. The old reverend father is now dead.

Oduduwa from the middle east? That's a new one.

I've always wanted to ask. Do Indians, Chinese and Japanese consider themselves decendants of Adam and Eve?

"God allegedly created the Universe of over 2 trillion galaxies just to perform miracles in Middle East before advent of cameras in mobile phones? Interesting!"- I.M

4Ken:
We live in such a hypocritic society. If a Nigerian man tries this, he will be embarrassed, kicked out and probably arrested. Stupid country.

When I was a teenager, the reverend father of the Catholic church my aunt attends used to smoke after mass and the people were cool with it because he was a white man.

If the God you believe in is real then it should make itself real to you. Don't believe what anybody tells you about any God. Let the God make it self real to you.

Godwin978:
kanu Nwankwo never leave these character of plaiting hair. grow up you are getting older

That's his style. Leave him alone.

olaideadamz:
Buhari face your government

Tell am ooo.

This is just some stunt. Pastor Chris does NOT have any 100 million dollars any where to gI've away to anybody. His networth is just about that amount at most.

purem:
This gonna be a rough ride

Felixomor fud don redi o

Pls stop mention him. This is not a masturbation thread.

1) Atheists Believe Everything Came From Nothing

Many theists believe there was once nothing, and then there was something—the universe—created by their god. And so they ask, “But if there is no god then how can something come from nothing?”

This question has been asked for thousands of years, but now Quantum physics has provided a basis for some atheists, such as Lawrence Krauss, to indeed believe the universe comes from “nothing.” But Krauss doesn’t speak for all atheists and he speaks of a very different kind of “nothing,” the kind where virtual particles are created from borrowed energy inside a vacuum. This is not even remotely close to what theists mean by the term “nothing.”

When asked about the universe, most atheists simply stop somewhere along the lines of “the evidence suggests the universe began expanding approximately 13.77 billion years ago.” Beyond that I’m fine with “I don’t know.” I don’t need to know. I do not believe the universe came from “nothing” in the way theists use the word or in the way Krauss uses the word. I don‘t think there’s enough evidence to reach a conclusion yet and I‘m fine with that. I’ve never met an atheist who believed everything comes from “nothing“ in the way theists use the word and in my experience, only a minority subscribe to the theory Krauss puts forward. Theists may believe the universe sprang from nothing, but they then have the burden of proving there was ever “nothing” and that “something” requires any gods at all.

2) Atheists Have No Morals

Humans are social beings, and as such we have morals. Some theists say atheists have no reason to be moral since we don’t believe in a god to instruct or punish us. This claim seems rather disingenuous when one considers that most theists who say this wouldn’t become immoral deviants overnight if they suddenly stopped believing in a god.

Studies have shown our morals are a product of multiple factors. The Milgram experiment shows authority plays a major role. The Stanford prison experiment showed the same, but also displayed the role of social hierarchy. The “good or evil” puppet test for babies suggests we are all born with a basic sense of fairness, justice, and unfortunately, bigotry. Human morality is too complex to be explained by religion or lack of it.

Millions of atheists across the globe live moral lives every day. Some don’t. Neither do some believers. There are atheist charities and atheist criminals. There are religious charities and religious hate groups. Religious people and atheists can both behave morally or immorally because of—or wholly independent of—their religious beliefs. One doesn’t necessarily lead to the other. Studies have shown the basis of human morality is present even before we’re exposed to religion.

3) Atheists Have No Meaning of Life

Even if humanity survives the next 5 billion years on this planet, the sun will balloon into a red giant, boil and possibly devour the earth before exploding and blasting out through the cosmos. The universe will continue to expand at an increasing rate, and eventually the force of gravity will be too weak for any new stars or planets to form. The universe will whither and die.

Some theists consider this and think without belief in an afterlife, nothing really matters in this life. Believing in an afterlife can influence one’s meaning of life, but a meaning of life doesn’t require belief in an afterlife. Some theists refer to Nietzsche’s nihilism as if Nietzsche were the be-all and end-all of existentialist philosophy. But humans generally define our meaning in the moments we enjoy and the goals we set. This was probably best articulated by Albert Camus in The Myth of Sisyphus.

I enjoy every moment I spend with my daughter, and one of my goals is to be a good father. I enjoy art, and one of my goals is to read, hear and see more of it. I like a large, hot cup of coffee while watching the dim glow of morning just before dawn. I love the serenity of canoeing on a sunny day and the soft crunch of fresh snow beneath my feet. I enjoy my friends and my family. Atheism does give life meaning because as an atheist, I understand this is the only life I’ve got.

4) There Are No Atheists in Foxholes

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Yes there are. They even have a website. Nonetheless there persists among some this belief that atheism is generally disingenuous and that everyone cries out to “God” in times of need. This claim highlights a conflicting epistemology between the theist who is basing beliefs in part on fear and need, and the those of us who determine beliefs based on facts and evidence.

Their assumption also implies that when a theist cries out “Oh God,” they are literally trying to talk to “God.” I have several religious family and friends who say “Oh God” in all sorts of scenarios but are rarely actually trying to carry on a conversation with The Almighty. Even a theist saying “Oh God” in a foxhole is most likely not actually expecting divine intervention. The phrase is generally used in the same way as “Oh Shit,” which generally doesn’t involve any reference to actual shit. Even so, there are millions of people who’ve encountered life threatening situations and didn’t cry out about god, shit or anything else.

5) Atheists Just Hate God

About as much as we hate unicorns. Theists tend to make this claim when atheists assert moral opinions about supposed deeds of their deity. “How can you have opinions about something you don’t believe in?” The same way we form opinions about Darth Vader, Willy Wonka or the Wicked Witch of the West—according to their role within the story. It doesn’t matter if the story involves a Sith killing all the Jedi kids or a god killing a nation’s first born.

Just repeating the claim back usually gets the point across. Do Christians “hate” Allah? Do Muslims “hate” Jesus? Do Jews “hate” the FSM? Not believing in a particular religion is not dependent on a negative opinion of that religion’s deity or messiah figure. It’s simply the result of not being convinced because the burden of proof has not been met. I personally think Buddha and Lao Tzu both had great things to say, but I’m not a Buddhist or a Taoist.

6) Atheists Just Don’t Want to Submit to God

Well, one would first need to provide reason for believing there is anything to submit to. Lacking belief in deities doesn’t mean one doesn’t want to submit to what they don’t believe in. Like number 5, the point can be made rather easily by simply repeating this back to the theist. Does the Christian lack belief in Allah just because she doesn’t want to wear a hijab? Do non Catholics lack belief in Catholicism simply because they don’t want to submit to the Pope? Do Muslims lack belief Jesus was the embodiment of “God” simply because they want to continue justifying child marriages with the actions of their so-called prophet?

7) Atheists Are Angry

There once was a time when challenging religion was considered taboo. Some would like to hold on to that standard to save their religion from scrutiny. Those days are over, but that doesn‘t mean being skeptical of religion means skeptics are angry.

Being confrontational does not equate to anger. If someone told you Elvis was spotted buying T-shirts at K-Mart, their claims would be analyzed, scrutinized, debunked and in most cases, outright laughed at. I see no reason why it should be any different for religious claims.

Atheists Are Responsible for the Worst Atrocities in History

Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao were all atheists, so atheism must be responsible for the mass executions during said reigns—or so the accusation goes. This statement is usually a retort to blaming Christianity for the Crusades or Islam for terrorism. The fact of the matter is there have been Christians, atheists, Muslims and many others of different beliefs and non beliefs who have committed multiple atrocities throughout history. But there have also been some of the kindest deeds in history performed by people of all kinds of belief and non belief.

Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao did not execute people in the name of atheism, but rather for simply not submitting to them as if they were gods themselves. There is a long list of atheist politicians who never committed atrocities. Claiming atheism would lead to disastrous atrocities like those witnessed in the early Soviet Union is a hasty generalization fallacy which ignores all the good deeds of decent atheist politicians throughout time.

9) Atheists Are Guilty of “Scientism”

It must be difficult holding beliefs which cannot be justified with evidence. This leads some theists to conclude atheists all subscribe to “scientism.” This term is meant as an insult against skeptics for daring to ask for evidence when confronted with extraordinary claims.

Scientism is a philosophy which holds that science is the ultimate truth, and that science is the only way to truth. But preferring science to superstition doesn’t mean science is always correct. Scientists are humans and can make mistakes like anyone else. However, the methodology of science does work. That doesn’t mean science is the only way to truth. It just means it’s an effective method of attaining natural truths.

Many atheists are equally skeptical of science and religion. My first assignment in my college statistics class was to find three examples of misused data in the media. This same task had been given to each class for over a decade and no two people ever turned in the same three examples. I have also studied philosophy, including philosophy of science, and so I understand science can be wrong. I have yet to meet an atheist who believes scientists are infallible.

10) Atheists Are All Rational and Logical

This is one I hear mostly from other atheists. Some atheists like to consider themselves more rational than theists and ask why we should call ourselves atheists at all, as opposed to calling ourselves rationalists or some other such term.

But all atheists are not rational. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in deities. There are atheists who believe in homeopathy, ancient aliens, 911 conspiracy theories and a host of other completely irrational ideas unsupported by any stretch of logic. Just because someone arrived at the rational non belief in deities does not mean they are rational about everything else".

Culled from Atheist Republic

Oracle16:
My people, the devil is working tirelessly to deceive a lot of people. He has his agents everywhere including all social media like Nairaland. They come in several forms and names like atheist.... They claim to explain everything through science. Many have been been deceived, even here on Nairaland. Heaven is real and hell is real, only Jesus can save. We are warned about them in the Bible. Read..

Colossians 2:8 - 10
8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces[a] of this world rather than on Christ.
9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, 10 and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority.

Isaiah 29:14
Therefore behold, I will once again deal marvelously with this people, wondrously marvelous; And the wisdom of their wise men will perish, And the discernment of their discerning men will be concealed."

Romans 1:2
Professing to be wise, they became fools,

1 Corinthians 1:19-20
For it is written, "I WILL DESTROY THE WISDOM OF THE WISE, AND THE CLEVERNESS OF THE CLEVER I WILL SET ASIDE." Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?

1 Corinthians 2:6
Yet we do speak wisdom among those who are mature; a wisdom, however, not of this age nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away;

1 Corinthians 3:19-20
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God For it is written, "He is THE ONE WHO CATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR CRAFTINESS"; and again, "THE LORD KNOWS THE REASONINGS of the wise, THAT THEY ARE USELESS."

1 Timothy 6:20
O Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you, avoiding worldly and empty chatter and the opposing arguments of what is falsely called "knowledge"--

James 3:15
This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, natural, demonic.

Proverbs 3:7
Do not be wise in your own eyes; Fear the LORD and turn away from evil.
Proverbs 16:25
There is a way which seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death.

Isaiah 5:21
Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever in their own sight!

Matthew 11:25

At that time Jesus said, "I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants.

Romans 1:21-23
For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.

Read your Bible and you will see more... If you are still growing in faith, it is advisable not to read those atheist nonsense. The worst attack is thge attack on your faith. God bless you all.

Another deluded one. Keep believing in the mythology and fiction of the ancient Jews and Romans that you were indoctrinated with.

If they tell you to describe the fictitious satan now, you'll start crying like a hopeless goat.

As the saying goes. It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled.

OLAADEGBU:
Paul's creed dates less than 3 years after the death of Jesus Christ

The creed that Paul cites in 1 Corinthians 15 has been dated by even the most skeptical atheist scholars as having originated less than 3 years after the death of Jesus. This means that the Gospel existed before anything had been written down by Paul or the disciples, meaning it wasn't invented by them or the early church.

http://reasonsforjesus.com/pauls-creed-dates-less-than-3-years-after-death-of-jesus/

Name the atheist scholars. Mr lie lie.

KingEbukasBlog:
God through his foreknowledge already knows that the devil would never repent as shown in the bible . So your question is invalid .

It's like asking what would become of us if God dies when immutability is one His attributes . Such will never happen.

Did your God through his fore knowledge know that the devil will rebel against him? Did he know that the devil will make his crown creation (man) to rebel against him? Did your God through his foreknowledge know that the devil will make him sacrifice himself unto himself before he created the devil?

There was no 900 million dollars available to steal then. Make wuna stop dey lie abeg.