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sonOfLucifer:
Stupid article. Naked we came, naked we shall go.

Must you comment

helpee:
I will wait till this frosbel of a guy start reading the seven books of moses as the true scripture before I comment again. We warned him years ago.....i knew he would end up like this. what foolishness!!! What if the scripture were written a hundred years after the time of jesus, I will definitely believe its account rather than the hypothesis of a professor two thousand years later. There is a clear difference between rising from the dead and appearing to people. Even jesus.....the tomb was long empty before he made his first appearance. why am I even debating with you.....let me say this quickly. I have many patients who are mad from religion. You don't study religion from the angle of research. If you don't believe in the bible, it is not a problem on its own. Too much study of religion will lead you to the study of evil text that can cage your mind. Let me say what I am not supposed to say.....my blood brother is presently in psychiatric home. He was driven there by too much study....he started by questioning God, then bible and later started studying esoteric text till he started saying rubbish. May God help us to deliver him. I know you will call me ignorant you have listened to the best professors in the world but remember we warned you years ago you will get here....

No research abii, So you mean creed is something of a blind faith I'm sorry to tell you... This is poo

frosbel:
I tire oo.

So God sat down and wrote every word of the bible , duh ? Just like the Muslims claim the Quran fell down from heaven.

I tell you , religion puts the brain into neutral gear, so sad.

But the Muslims never claimed the Quran fell from heaven

Image123:
@OP,
God of course, who else.

johnydon22:
what

Hehehehe... ..

Flye:
Good article may, God bless your wisdom.

You too

overdrive:
na u be op na u still dey book space.ok how much u dey sell?

There's no way I could av deleted the post totally. Hence I had to put a dot... .I think it's high time NL put delete button on threads

I hope the mods, Seun will do the needful. ....This piece needs to reach millions of girls in NG

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After two months in Zamfara, my libido had dropped a great notch. I could pass for a monk in thought and deed. These ladies were graciously and totally wrapped. No curves to behold, no stray cleavage and bra strap, no
busts, no bum; nothing to mess with your head or thoughts and get your mind trying to figure out whatever is under that see-through top. Living there had some sort of purging effect on my sight and consequently my mind.
The sacred parts of a female’s body gradually started to become sacred again and seemed to earn a right to be covered, and for once, I began to admire and respect both the Hijab, and the ladies who make a habit of wearing it. And oh yes: I did find that brazen immorality
was very low in this part. The vibe was more like – ‘if-you-want-her,-marry-her’ rather than the ‘if-you-want-her-then-get-in-her-pants’ idiosyncrasy that’s predominant down South.
It seems our ladies just want to go naked. We’ve watched the skirts grow shorter and ‘huggier’. We (everybody) let them wear two-legged apparels for sports and better covering; they turn it to ‘bum shorts’…perhaps for want of fabric. They change from pants to tight as undies, but knowing they had tights on...they
started to sit anyhow. The tight is now leggings which they used to wear with a long top to cover the bum. Today, in our faces, the long tops disappeared, leaving us with plain skin tight - a brazen case of underwear going to school, work or church. Nowadays they don’t even wear pants with it, and it’s getting even more transparent! Today they wear see-through tops with a flawless bra underneath.
Their tops must reveal bra straps somehow, and the cleavage must come pouring forth! Truth is, a lady who ‘shows some flesh’ torments a man’s senses far more than a totally nude one, for men are turned on hard
by sight. Their imaginations run wild; they get hooked; soon they become willing victims all their lives. Women know this, I am sure.
I sometimes wonder how many young men out there are addicted, perverted, and sexually bedeviled by a few stray sights they happened upon on the street all because a sister wants to be called ‘sexy’. We lament that faithful husbands have flown from amongst women, we decry ill-gotten wealth. We lament that
standards have fallen, that men ask for sex to give women jobs, roles, marks, admissions, favours, contracts, money. And the United Nations cries – emancipate the woman!
However, by your dressing you suggest that ‘sex’ is a currency you are willing to pay in and start up this vicious circle of promiscuity that’s killing the society. Jay-Z sings fully clothed from skull to foot; the ‘add-on’ lady simply wears thongs and wiggles her butt? I feel certain that if a bill is passed banning certain clothes in public, women will vehemently protest their right to be naked, tell us we are living in the stone ages all over
again; and fill us with all that ‘woman emancipation’ mantra.
Consequently, our three-year-old boys have learnt to poke at their sisters and classmates, because you showed them how. Our sons approach puberty, the site of nudity on the streets pushes them ‘pornward’, and by 15, they have pierced themselves with many sexual sorrows. Such a boy will grow to be a philanderer, a pedophile, an abuser of women and an unworthy father. See how you make perverts out of us. See why you must stop!
We all are culpable. From the man who calls her ‘hot and sexy’, speaking more from lust than love, to the lady who courts attention at all costs, selling womanhood
short. From the father who’s not always there, to the mother who feels she’s just being like her generation…and refuses to scream, correct and insist. From the media or marketing professional who feels – sex sells, to the customer service and public relations peeps
who think this lewdness is the best way to reel in customers. From the designer of these kinds of clothes, to the ‘stars’ who teach our kids that this is how to be. We all are! Hence, if women cannot all wear Hijabs like
the Moslem women do, at least get a moral
one, dress modestly! • Nnaemeka, a youth corps member in Zamfara State.
This was published in guardian newspaper in Nigeria, last week Tuesday, back page(December, 2014)

Renowned Catholic Priest, Rev. Fr. Ejike Mbaka, has urged President Goodluck Jonathan to abandon his re-election bid so that the All Progressives Congress candidate, Maj.Gen Muhammadu Buhari (retd.) can emerge the winner of the presidential election next month.

Mbaka, who heads the popular Catholic Adoration Centre in Enugu, said this in his New Year sermon titled “From Good luck to Bad luck,” while addressing thousands of parishioners on Thursday.

He urged all well-meaning Nigerians to vote for Buhari on February 14.

According to the cleric, Jonathan has disappointed Nigerians and cannot deliver the dividends of democracy to the people.

Mbaka subsequently knelt down in front of the altar, cried and asked God to give Nigeria a good leader and not Jonathan. He used the opportunity to beg Nigerians to vote wisely in the forthcoming elections.

He said, “I love President Goodluck Jonathan and I used to be his ardent fan, but I want good for my people and that’s why I want Nigerians to vote out Goodluck Jonathan and vote General Muhammad Buhari. I don’t care if Buhari is a Muslim and from the North; all I care about is that Buhari can save Nigeria.”

Ironically, Mbaka had recently endorsed Jonathan’s re-election.

It was learnt that the Deputy Senate President, Ike Ekweremadu, had taken Jonathan’s wife, Patience, to Mbaka, where the cleric said he would pray for Jonathan’s victory.

However, after prayers, Mbaka said the sign he received from God was that Jonathan was not fit to rule the nation anymore.

Mbaka further explained that one of the reasons Jonathan is no longer fit to rule Nigeria for the next four years was the high level of insecurity which the President had failed to address as well as corruption in the country.

He said it was unfortunate that the over 200 Chibok girls who were abducted by terrorists over 200 days ago had not been rescued despite series of promises made by Jonathan.

He further urged the Federal Government to account for the missing $20bn and stop insurgency in the country.

Mbaka maintained that Buhari could not Islamise Nigeria as being rumoured in some circles.

He said he had never met the APC candidate but urged Nigerians not to forget that Buhari fought corruption to a standstill during his administration between December 1983 and August 1985.

JudismphD:
Trash. Op you need to be schooled on the technicalities of political propaganda. When you juxtapose Jonathan and buhari personality AND the "bombing variables" whose imahe seem to tarnished?

Oga... Spare me out Pls.. ..am I newsrescue?

Let's see how this one unfolds...

mexzy14:
Na so,stop trying to bad belle jonathan...him go still sit there cone 2015. dis is naija

Even if he's really guilty? Why don't you just open your mind more... .

The embattled former leader of the Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta (MEND) has started singing like a Canary in his detention cell. Okah who is currently being detained in a South African prison over his alleged role in the October 1, 2010 bombing made some allegations in an affidavit he submitted to a court on Wednesday. The affidavit was filed in his fresh application for bail.

The President, Dr. Goodluck Jonathan and a number of his aides were prominently mentioned in the 145-paragraph affidavit. For instance, Okah alleged that he spoke to the President on behalf of Mrs. Diezani Alison Madueke before she was made the Minister of Petroleum Resources. Okah also alleged that his present predicament cannot be divorced from his refusal to get MEND to retract their claim of responsibility for the Independence Day bombing. Okah claimed the Government wanted to pin the occurrence on some specific northern elements. Excerpts:

IN THE SOUTH GAUTENG HIGH COURT, JOHANNESBURG (REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA) CASE NO: A570/10 In the matter between: –
OKAH, HENRY EMOMOTIMI Applicant
And THE STATE Respondent FOUNDING AFFIDAVIT
I, the undersiqned,
HENRY EMOMOTIMI OKAH do hereby make oath and state as follows: –
1. I am an adult male person, the Applicant herein, currently incarcerated at the Johannesburg Prison, since my arrest on the 2nd of October 2010.

2. The content of this affidavit falls within my own personal knowledge, except
where it is expressly stated otherwise, and are both true and correct”,

3. I am charged with certain offences in terms of the Protection of Constitutional Democracy against Terrorist and Related Activities Act, Act 33 of 2004 (lithe Terrorist Act”). I have further been advised and reconfirm that the offences referred to in the Terrorist Act are referred to in Schedule 6 of the Criminal Procedure Act, Act 51 of 1977 and that I am obliged as such to adduce evidence, having been afforded a reasonable opportunity to do so, that exceptional circumstances exist which in the interest of justice permit my release on bail.

INTRODUCTION: HISTORICAL CHRONOLOGY

4. I was arrested on the 2nd of October 2010 and appeared in Court 12 in the Regional Court, Johannesburg for the first time on the 4th of October 2010.

5. I applied for and was denied bail in a judgment by the learned Regional Court Magistrate H Louw on the 19thof November 2010.

6. ·1 appealed the judgment of the learned Regional Court Magistrate to the South Gauteng High Court, Johannesburg under appeal case number CA340/2010. My appeal was heard by His Lordship Hattingh AJ and dismissed on the in January 2011. A copy of the judgment of the High Court is annexed hereto as Annexure “HEO 1″.

7. An application was made on my behalf for leave to appeal, to the Supreme·
Court of Appeal of South Africa, which application was dismissed by the learned Hattingh AJ on the 11th of June 2011. I attach hereto a copy of the order dated the 1ih of June 2011 as Annexure “HEO 2″.

8. The proceedings of the hearing of the application for bail, in the Regional Court Johannesburg, as well as the transcripts of the record of the appeal before Hattingh AJ, will be made available to the above Honourable Court at the hearing of this application.

9. I have further been advised by my legal representatives that since appeared in the South Gauteng High Court, Johannesburg on the 31st of January 2012, the abovementioned Court is therefore seized with this application by virtue of the provisions of Section 60(1)(b) of the Criminal Procedure Act, 51 of 1977 and that the above Honourable Court should hear this application.

NEW FACTS

10. I have been advised by my legal representatives that should new facts arise, subsequent to the historical application and appeal referred to hereinabove, I am entitled to apply to the above Honourable Court to take any and all of the new facts into consideration together with the original application and consider whether I should be released on bail.

11. The trial is set down to commence in the South Gauteng High Court on 1 October 2012 and I am advised that the trial is projected both by the State and by my legal representatives on a conservative estimate to last at least 18 months.

12. I have been furnished with an indictment dated 23 August 2011 under the hand of Advocate AR Ackermann SC, confirming that the trial will be conducted in the South Gauteng High Court.

13. In anticipation of the upcoming trial, I have been furnished with the content of the police docket containing the statements and evidence procured by the investigating officer.

14. The information contained in the police docket was not made available to me or my previous legal representatives before the previous bail application and the bail appeal.

15. As I will demonstrate hereinunder, my allegation set out in my previous affidavits in support of my bail application before the learned Regional Court Magistrate wherein I dealt extensively with the weakness and defects in the State case is now apparent when a proper and detailed analysis and comparison is made and drawn between the averments made under oath by the· investigating officer during the previous bail application and the evidence, or the lack thereof, which is contained in the police docket.

16. My legal representative in the bail application presented oral argument to the learned Regional Court Magistrate and favoured him with heads of argument in support of his submissions that I should be released on bail. Thereafter, during the address by counsel for the State, the learned Regional Court Magistrate indicated to counsel on behalf of the State that there was no evidential material placed before the Court, directly linking me with the crimes allegedly committed in Nigeria, which were set out in the charge sheet. In this regard I beg leave to refer the Court to pp 301 to 303 of the record. I deem it prudent to quote some exchanges between the Court and counsel for the State at p 302:-

COURT: That is not evidence.
PROSECUTOR: I also have evidence that the accused had … (intervenes).
COURT: I am going to interrupt you there. There is no evidential material before the
Court. You cannot say mero motu that you have evidence. You cannot testify, that is not evidence before this Court, and I will not accept it as such. It is a mere statement from yourself If you have evidential material by means of a statement under oath, or evidence that was presented somehow, maybe an answer from the accused …(intervenes)
PROSECUTOR: Yes.
COURT: Presented to me, but you are arguing that a mere statement from the State’s
side is somehow elevated to evidence, that is not, it is certainly not. .. But if you are not going to give me evidential material that links the accused with the planting of this, I must accept his version, despite the fact that my impressions upon him in the witness box, which you can allude to … (intervenes)
PROSECUTOR: Test.
COURT: That is my opinion at this stage.”

17. As a result of the aforegoing, the State’s legal representative requested that the matter stand down and thereafter applied to re-open the State’s case. (at pp 306 to 307). My legal representative opposed the application, but the Court ruled that the State be given an opportunity to re-open its case (record, pp 308 to 309).

18. The State then presented exhibit UN”, a further affidavit by the investigating officer, Lieutenant Colonel Zeeman, which affidavit was read into the record at pp 311 to 316 (exhibit UN”, pp 954 to 958).

19. In response to exhibit UN”, I filed an affidavit in terms of Section 60(11) of the Criminal Procedure Act, seeking certain information to be furnished to me to be able to adequately deal with exhibit UN”. In this regard I refer the Honourable Court to exhibit “P” (pp 959 to 966).

20. The learned Magistrate thereafter ordered the South African Police Service to make a mirror copy image of the hard drive of the computer seized from my residence and all cellular phone hard drives as well as memories and the affidavits underlying the application for the warrant of my arrest, the search and seizure order issued by the Magistrate, be disclosed. I refer to the Court Order at pp 359 to 360 of the record.
21. Despite the aforegoing, the State failed to comply with the aforesaid Court Order. My legal representative then furnished the Court with a second replying affidavit of myself in response to the State’s failure to have complied with the Court Order (see record, pp 364 to 388, exhibit “Q”, my second replying affidavit, pp 967 to 993). The learned Magistrate thereupon held an enquiry as to why the State failed to comply with his Order and heard the evidence of three witnesses, Zeeman, Mofamadi and Makusa (record pp 394 to 412).

22. The learned Magistrate then made a ruling finding that there was an unreasonable delay caused by the State and ordered the State that the relevant copies as ordered by him, be presented to my legal team. I refer to pp 422 to 423.

23. By virtue of the fact that I was at that stage detained for over a month, my legal adviser advised me to proceed with my bail application and presented argument that I be released on bail (see record, p 423, lines 10 to 16).

24. From a perusal of exhibit “N”, as well as the judgment of the learned Magistrate and the judgment of the High Court in dismissing my appeal, both Courts relied heavily on the contents of exhibit “N”. I have been advised that it is prudent to annex exhibit “N” hereto since it played a pivotal role in both Courts denying me bail. I attach exhibit “N” hereto as Annexure “HEO 3″.

25. I have now been furnished with a copy of the police docket which I have been advised by my legal representatives contains all the evidential material which the State intends to use in my trial. I have studied the police docket and state categorically that exhibit “N” is false and misleading with regard to various issues contained therein.

26. The State alleged in Exhibit ‘N’ that prior to the detonation of the two motor vehicles improvised explosive devices in Abuja, Nigeria on 1 October 2010, two vehicles namely a Honda and a Mazda 626 were purchased in Lagos, Nigeria, on the instruction of a person complicit in the crime.

27. The explosions took place under the supervision of one Chima Orlu a Nigerian national. It is alleged that Chima Orlu acted on my instructions. The State has not furnished any evidence to substantiate this allegation in the police docket.

28. It was further alleged by the State that Chima Orlu’s telephone records revealed that he had been in contact with me on numerous occasions leading up to 1 October 2010. The telephone records contained in the police docket do not in any way substantiate these allegations made by the State in exhibit “N”.

29. The State also alleged that Chima Orlu sent an SMS message to me at precisely 10h58:59 on 1 October 2010. The SMS was allegedly followed by another SMS from Chima Orlu at 13h13:01 and again at 13h29:59 the same day. It is suggested that the replying SMS’s were sent by me to Chima Orlu at the times given. The police docket does not contain evidence substantiating these allegations made by the State.

30. The State also alleged that on 1 October 2010 Chima Orlu made a total of
43 voice calls and had sent 27 SMS messages to co-perpetrators and co-conspirators.
The police docket does not contain any evidence substantiating these allegations made by the State.
31. The State further alleged that Ben Ebere, a Nigerian national who is also known as Ben Jessy or Justin Malcolm Umejesi assisted Chima Orlu in the detonation of the said explosions. Ebere had allegedly been in telephonic and SMS contact with me right up to 29 September 2010. The police docket does not contain evidence substantiating these allegations made by the State.

32. There were allegedly 1 126 calls from me to Ben Ebere during the period 7 August 2010 to 29 September 2010. The telephone records contained in the police docket do not in any way substantiate these allegations made by the State.
33. There were allegedly 59 SMS’s sent from me to Ben Ebere during the period 1 July 2010 to 28 September 2010. The telephone records contained in the police docket does not in any way substantiate these allegations made by the State.

34. Ben Ebere is a wanted person in Nigeria. I attach hereto a newspaper article as Annexure “HEO 4″.

35. Exhibit UN” stated that Ben Jessy was in Nigeria during the time of the bombing. There is no evidence contained in the police docket to substantiate these allegations.

36. A copy of a photo, the original of which will be made available by my legal
representatives at the hearing hereof, of Ben Jessy and President Jacob Zuma is attached hereto as Annexure “HEO 5″.
37. An e-mail was also allegedly forwarded to me on 1 October 2010 at 16:25 by two people arrested in Nigeria relating to the bombing which stated:- “Done, tell them to leave now.”

38. The police docket does not contain evidence substantiating these allegations made by the State.

39. I propose to deal with the allegations surrounding Chima Orlu in more detail hereunder.

40. The allegations contained above in respect of the alleged cell phone calls and SMS messages between me and Chima Orlu are not substantiated by my cell phone records contained in the police docket.

41. The e-mail from the perpetrators of the bombing of 1 October 2010 purported by the State to be in its possession, simply does not exist in the police docket, nor does it exist on the computers or cell phones seized in the search of my residence.
42. As stated hereinbefore, the learned Magistrate ordered that the State gave me access to a disc containing the relevant cellphone records pertaining to the cellphones allegedly confiscated during the search and seizure of my residence. The relevant disc contains only two records of cellphones that belong to my wife and/or children. I respectfully state that no incriminating evidence was retrieved from these records. I attach the said report pertaining thereto as “HEO _”.

43. I refer to Annexure “HEO 4″ above, the newspaper article which appeared in a Nigerian newspaper and in which the public relations official of the Nigerian Police Force is quoted as having made available photographs of the two suspected masterminds behind the bomb blasts. It is significant to note that no information regarding these individuals is provided other than their names and their photographs.

44. In Annexure “HEO 4″ Ben Jessy is depicted on the photograph on the right hand side and Chima Orlu on the left hand side.

45. I can now categorically state that the allegations contained in exhibit “N” in
particular are not substantiated by any independent evidence. I therefore respectfully state that the so-called evidential material relied on by the learned Regional Court Magistrate and the High Court does not exist. I therefore respectfully state that the State’s case against me is extremely weak and it is unlikely that the State will be successful in a criminal prosecution against me. I respectfully state that had the Regional Court and the High Court been appraised of the true facts pertaining to the so-called “evidence” referred to in exhibit “N”, both Courts in all probability would have granted me bail.

Continue reading: http://newsrescue.com/jonathan-begged-blame-north-october-1-blasts-henry-okah-claims/#axzz3NfoFjxT7

Mizzzbeee:
hahhahahhaah I really don't knw where to start laughing from..... U cracked me up real good..... So cuz am quite knowledgeable about tech stuffs dat make me suspicious of my gender...... Lol u guys need a lot of exposure.....quite a lot I must say....

That's my kinda girl

Ayed44:
Hmmm.... This is serious. But wait a minute.

This woman spent millions of naira to purchase PDP's nomination form.

She spent millions of naira to execute her electioneering campaign.

She contested with and defeated the incumbent in the primary election.

She won the ticket.

And she woke up a beautiful morning and threw away the ticket she fought so hard to win, and she preferred to join APC as a floor member.

I smell lies......

Hmmmm.. ..

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A People Democratic Party, PDP, House of Representative aspirant, Aisha Osori, has denounced the PDP to join the All Progressives Congress, APC, after emerging winner on the platform of the PDP.
Ms. Osori made the announcement on Tuesday in Abuja while briefing journalists at the APC national secretariat.
Ms. Osori emerged winner at the recent AMAC/Bwari federal constituency primary in the Federal Capital Territory.
Ms. Osori, who was presented with the membership card of the APC, told journalists she decided to defect after watching the APC primary because she believed in APC’s vice presidential candidate, Yemi Osibanjo, who was her lecturer at one time.
“I decided to denounce membership after watching the APC conduct its presidential primary in a fair and competitive manner and after seeing the combination of Osibanjo and Buhari, both men of integrity,” Ms. Osori said.
“Osibanjo used to teach me at the University of Lagos, faculty of law, I believe that is a great combination that would move the country forward and I want to be part of that team,’’ she said.
According to her, the APC slogan “Change” is enough reason to support the party as she was sure of winning the on the platform of APC.
Ms. Osori noted that more than 70 per cent of Nigerians were youth who wanted the change that “APC represents’’.
On what her contribution would be to ensure the success of the APC at the general elections, Ms. Osori, who leads the non-governmental organization, Nigerian Women’s Trust Fund, cited experience.
“The years of experience I garnered in the private sector as a lawyer and also as writer, first with Thisday and later with Leadership newspapers, will be of value to APC.
Reacting to the defection, the APC National Secretary, Mai-Mala Buni, who presented the membership card to Ms. Osori, expressed delight because his party was waxing stronger by the day.
“Such event will be a continuous thing. Our doors are open. Everybody, who is ready to join the party, is welcome anytime, any day,’’ he said. (NAN)

Source:http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/173992-reps-aspirant-dumps-pdp-winning-partys-primary-joins-apc-osinbajo.html

AkaraOgbomosho:
hello Nlders, pls i would like to confirm something as being a guy. I am 23yrs old, I havent engaged in sex before, For 2yrs, i have been experience something. Whenever i sleep, my P goes hard at times nd its like i auto-sperm. this happens like one in 3weeks or 4weeks, at times, i result to me forcing it out mysef whenever i sleep outside my apartment(as being a muslim, i av to take Gushul-bath after seeeing this), so it myt want to disturb my fajr prayer if its outside my house.

bt the kkok is that, is this normal if i dont force it out in like 4weeks, there is every chance it comes out itsef anytime i sleep. tho i usually have gr8 urge, but i alwyz control mysef nd never engaged in sex before. pls am i normal r there is fire on the mountain

Op, if it's really a serious issue.. contact me on whatsapp. 08036805325...I'm a brother from the same mother. ..I might be able to help you...

Ifeann:
I didn't quote those verses out of context. The texts speak for themselves and went well with the contexts and Mohammed's circumstances; there was no joke,
no stories,

OK

..“Abia will be the last state to abandon Jonathan,” Orji said, noting that the President had shown enough interest in the state. “Hence, he deserves their unalloyed support,” he said.
He said, “Any Igbo person who abandons Jonathan will not progress".

All Tribal statements ....
As expected from a divisive government

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Ifeann:
I rest my case.
You have no argument to defend the evils in your book. U have accused me of being a woman hence u can't do comparative sessions on Islam and christainity religions.

Deep down you know these commands in Islam is immoral.
If you don't want to agree because u feel you will offend allah, you should know that the one true God YHWH is greater than allah. The one true God can't condone the lawlessness, hate and double standards in the quran.

Here we go again, putting every thing down as it appease you.. .if you want a comparative session with me, then you're gonna open your mind and we re gonna reason together...my apologies, how do you expect me to engage in chats with you when you wouldn't reason along but to believe everything you assume is right.. .sorry dear it's a waste of my precious time.. #sighs

ypeace:
Jazakumullahu Khairan bro. May God guide us all right.

Wa iyyak bro.... Amiin

thorpido:
You say the quran was written by scribes.........you agree other people wrote it.
That means it is subject to misrepresentation whether you agree or not.

I already told you Luke was an acquaintance of Peter.He wrote some of his words.That is more authentic than the words of Barnabas.

Have you forgotten one of the miracles of the Quran is that it is easily crammed?... The Quran was crammed, and written down... So if there was a mistake, Muhammad would av noted it during recital....
Now from one of your points you claimed Barnabas was rejected because he wasn't a disciple... And you claimed Luke had a more correct script.... How could you be sure? He even said he got them according to eyewitness.....or were you there when it was bn written down? Or have you ever asked yourself this question that what if some parts of Barnabas script is right ? Even If Barnabas was a disciple or part of allies of the disciples...some parts of his scripts could av bn right because he was close to them just like Luke and John.... Ponder well, forget about what your pastors told you

thorpido:
Muhammed himself never wrote the quran.Others wrote it,even if it is claimed he gave them the words.
Are you saying then that judging by your postulation,one can easily throw away the quran since Muhammed didn't write it?

Let me correct you..... The Quran was written down during the time of Muhammad SAW by the scribes and it was pronounced to his ears to ascertain the correction .... But it was compiled together as a book in whole after his time
.Pls answer this question
why would the pple accept Luke and John when they themselves were not a disciple just like Barnabas

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ypeace:
when you mentioned: 'and probably tied up'. Then I think you dont know what a slave means in Islam. You were adding your own meaning to it.

You read an hadith about permission to have sex with slaves, you added forced sex to the hadith. Because you added it doesn't make it so. Forced sex is going nibeyond boundaries which is a purnisheable offence.

Sahih al Bukhari book 2, Hadith 29

Att Ar-Rabadha, I met Abu Dhar who was wearing a cloak, and his slave, too, was wearing a similar one. I asked about the reason for it. He replied, ' I abused a person by calling his mother with bad names.' The prophet (saw) said to me, 'o Abu Dhar! Did you abuse hi, by calling his mother with bad names? You still have some characteristics of ignorance. Your slaves are your brothers and Allah and has put them under your command. So, whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help thm.' ''

we don't even have the right to abuse them verbally talkless of forcing them to sex. Its a meaning you added to the permission.

You better leave that girl alone, she'll twist and reframe everything to her own understanding