Kobojunkiee:
we shouldn't blindly accept scripture but we should rather blindly injest the various assertions made by third-parties such as your Krishna all of which have no grounding in scripture?

There is a reason why I explained this concept on the basis of logic. The powerful logic behind the concept itself is the strongest scriptural authority. When such strong logic exists, no separate theoretical quotation from the scripture is needed. If strong logic to support a concept is absent and it is only supported by quoting the scripture, it must be rejected. If it is not logical, it should be treated as some insertion in the scripture. Such inserted wrong concepts should be rejected.

There is no need to feel sorry about calling such an insertion in the scripture as an insertion. In fact, knowingly treating a wrong insertion in the scripture to be genuine is very bad. It is said that if you are bitten on your finger by a snake, you should immediately cut off the finger without any foolish attachment towards it or else the poison will spread all over your body and kill you (Aṅgulīvoragakṣatā). A certain concept from a genuine scripture like the Veda or Gita might be accepted by others to be genuine. But if it is proved to be wrong upon analysis, it must be rejected. One must leave foolish and blind attachment towards the scripture in favor of the truth. Logical analysis is greater than the scripture.

Please do not think that I am criticizing the divine scripture by lowering its value. I have to say this because your blind fascination for the scripture, setting aside logical analysis, must be condemned. I am not criticizing the divine scripture. The wrong concept is not genuinely part of the genuine scripture. It is only an insertion made by an ignorant person who wants his wrong concept to be accepted by people like you. He inserted it in a genuine scripture so that people will accept it without question. He is exploiting the position of sacredness given to the divine scripture.

You must realize one basic point: How can God, the author of the divine scripture speak such illogical wrong concepts? Such wrong and illogical concepts were definitely not told by Him! This one point makes logical analysis occupy a higher place than the scripture. The logical analysis reveals what is actually spoken by God and what is inserted by ignorant or crooked people in the scripture. The purpose of giving this entire background is to emphasize the point that a concept supported by sharp logical analysis itself is the scripture. Whether such a concept is found in the divine scripture or not is not important. In any case, there is always the possibility of insertions and corruption of any scripture, so accepting any statement from the scripture without analysis is foolish.


Sun, the first student of the God, fell towards North,
Elder scholars praise this as precious time henceforth,
The sense lights become dim, if even precious lives sink,
Hurry, clear all your doubts as loans now and then think.

Kobojunkiee:
Interesting claim. .. so because scripture did not, your swami then took it on herself to add his own ideas into God's mouth by pretending to speak for God?

We need not blindly accept every statement of any scripture. Analyzing any statement is necessary to find out whether the statement is genuine or it has been inserted later on. Without this acid test, no statement should be accepted blindly or by force.

Even God Krishna Himself said that everything that He preached, should be thoroughly analyzed before accepting it. One should never ever accept any scripture of any religion blindly without prefect logical analysis of the statements. God is the most genius and He never say anything illogical. If any part is illogical be sure that it is an insertion.

The scripture is valid, provided it is interpreted in the right manner. For such correct interpretation, logical or scientific analysis is necessary. The analysis should be free of the blind fascination towards one’s own religion and one’s own scripture. Ignorant people think that opposing the wrong interpretations of the scripture is opposing the scripture itself. This is not correct. We are only opposing the wrong interpretation of the scripture and not the original scripture.

Now how to proceed in this very important aspect. The following procedure shall be used to detect illogical statements in any scripture of any religion.

The scripture itself says that you should analyze every statement of the scripture through scientific analysis. This does not mean that the scripture doubts about its own genuine value. The idea of the suggestion of analysis by the scripture itself is to test its every statement to ensure that it is said by God (Knowledge wise) and not inserted by some wrong scholar.

Reserve Bank asks every bank to test every note of the bundle to ensure that all notes belong to Reserve Bank only. For this purpose, every note must be checked. If a note is found to be genuine note printed by Reserve Bank, the Reserve Bank should not feel that it is insulted because even the genuine note printed by it is tested! Once we found the note to be genuine, we will not test that genuine note again and again doubting the Reserve Bank itself.

We know that the Reserve Bank will not print a fake note and that God will not say illogical knowledge to sages. A preliminary and final test of each note is essential to find whether the note is genuine or fake. If you get the bundle of notes directly from the press of Reserve Bank, there is no need of test. But, since the notes printed by Reserve Bank have gone in to market facing rotation for a long time, we cannot believe that every note is genuine and should not be tested by analysis. Similarly, we have not received the scripture straight from the devoted sages. The scripture given by God to sages and subsequently delivered by sages did not come to us straight from the mouths of sages. Long time has gone before we received the scripture delivered by sages. In this long time, so many insertions might have entered the scripture.

The printing technology did not exist during this long period so that we can say that the scripture delivered by sages was immediately printed and no insertions could take place. Even if it is orally preserved through recitations from generation to generation, we cannot rule out totally the possibility of insertions. If the scripture is totally genuine without any insertion, it will pass out through the test of analysis like Sita passing out the test of fire.

Why should you fear for the test if it is genuine? After passing through the test of analysis, nobody will dare to say that the scripture is believed blindly by the conservative followers. This unnecessary blame on the scripture as well as on the followers can be avoided by the test. Such test will reinforce the faith in every follower especially in the absence of doubts and blames. Even the scripture like the Gita told by the human incarnations, has equal possibility of insertions and hence analysis was recommended by the Gita itself as the last word. Scripture of no religion is an exception of this concept.


God is omniscient and will never say any illogical or unjust statement. He is certainly beyond the logic, which doesn’t mean that He is on the side of wrong logic.

Whenever a controversial concept appears in the scripture, first we shall try to give a right interpretation for the same verse based on benefit of doubt (This mean that we approach positively in the beginning that this is a genuine verse and then try to interpret it in right direction.). If right interpretation is not possible in any angle, be sure, such verse is an insertion done by ignorant or over intelligent-egoistic-selfish people

Even the Veda (vedaanta vijnaana, sunishchitaarthaah) and the Gita (vimrushyaitat...) say that you shall accept their statements only after doing perfect analysis to get the right conclusion. You must take these statements also as authority if you take the Veda and the Gita as authority. Why is God asking us to analyze His own statements before accepting them? The reason is that God knows very well that in the future some fraud followers of the religion will insert their opinions into the text of the scripture.

You must analyze every statement of the scripture thinking it as genuine based on the concept of giving benefit of doubt. If right interpretation comes in any angle, you can refute the wrong interpretation taken from it. If no right interpretation comes in any angle for the statement, you must reject it saying that God will never speak illogical and unjust concepts and such statement is only insertion by some false follower. You must never accept the forced unjust and illogical interpretation of the statement believing blindly that it is told by God. After all, there is no audio-video cassette taken while God is speaking!

The omnipotent God can eliminate the people adulterating the scripture by directly appearing to human beings. He is doing the same by appearing as human incarnation. People are adulterating the scripture with some selfish motives. It is the responsibility of the human being to analyze the scripture and find out the illogical and unjust portions, which are not said by God. God has given very sharp intelligence to the human beings. If the intelligence is not used, it will corrode due to lack of work. God does not want us to follow Him like inert robots because certain insertions are introduced in the scripture in His name.

God allowed the insertions so that we will use our intelligence and analyze to eliminate those insertions. Even the Veda says that we shall analyze the Vedic statements before coming to conclusions. Such exercise of intelligence on the subject gives perfect satisfaction in believing the truth. Arjuna got confirmation that Krishna is God through cosmic vision and was fully ready to do whatever Krishna says. Still, at the end of the Gita, Krishna said that Arjuna must use his intelligence and analyze the entire Gita before following it.

Whether it is religion or science, one can find the truth only through reasoning, which involves sharp and deep analysis. Scripture is also not an exception for such analysis because we cannot be sure whether the scripture is a genuine version or an adulterated version with insertions made by ignorant people in the course of time. During the process of reasoning, we can distinguish between the genuine concepts and the adulterated concepts. Even divine preachers did the same in writing commentaries on the scriptures.

The commentaries varied in their conclusions due to such adulteration of the original text. Due to this reason, we often find mutually contradicting concepts within the same scripture. You should understand the path of these divine preachers, who wrote commentaries on the scriptures. The path is that you should not accept anything without deep and sharp analysis. People, who dislike the questioning of scripture, should answer why there is a difference in the commentaries written on the same scripture.

UNITY OF RELIGIONS IN THE UNIVERSE

(Conversation between Swami and a Christian Father)

[Following is the divine experience of Shri Phani Kumar, a devotee of Swami as narrated by him.] Recently, I had the fortune to accompany Swami in a train journey from Narasaraopet to Vijayawada. A Christian father was our co-passenger. The conversation between Swami and the Christian father took place as given below.]

Father: Those who do not have faith in Jesus Christ will be sent to the flames of liquid fire in hell. This is the declaration of our faith.

Swami: Does that mean that there is no salvation to all the generations of devotees who lived on this earth before the incarnation of Jesus Christ? If so, all those devotees were subjects of the partiality of God since they were deprived of the revelation that their successors had!

Father: God is impartial in this matter. He gave Jehovah to mankind for their salvation before the incarnation of Jesus.

[b]Swami: [/b]Fine! That may be true, but devotees of this land (India) had no knowledge of either Jehovah or Jesus Christ prior to the arrival of Vasco da Gama. Vasco da Gama discovered India and only later on, did the Christian literature that speaks of Jehovah or Jesus come to India. All those innocents, who lived before the arrival of Vasco da Gama were deprived of the revelations of either Jehovah or Jesus Christ and were sent to the flames of the ‘liquid fire’ for no fault of theirs. Moreover, they did not even have the opportunity to take human rebirth birth later and reclaim salvation since the doctrine of the faith that you follow, has no place for the rebirth of the soul.

Does this mean that God intended to provide the revelation only to a handful of people in a small country and deny the opportunity to all those living in rest of the world? Why did God reveal Himself at a particular point of time, in a particular land and to a particular section alone? Does that not accuse God of partiality?

Father: No faith is free from such blame. Does your faith also not warn those who do not believe in your faith, of the same danger of hell? All mortals in other lands, who are not aware of the virtues of your faith, are also subjected to the same punishment in hell! Does this also not accuse God of partiality?

Swami: There are fanatic enthusiasts in every faith. Christian enthusiasts claim that non-believers in Jehovah or Jesus Christ shall be subjected to the flames of the liquid fire. Hindu enthusiasts claim that non-believers in Lord Vishnu or Lord Shiva shall be subjected to punishment in hell. These enthusiasts further introduce ideas that salvation is possible only for devotees who follow that particular path, while others will go to hell. Followers of different sects criticize each other by such warnings.

All these enthusiasts fail to recognize the unity in all the world religions. All these ‘approaches’ to God, accuse Him of partiality. The only way to keep God free from blame is to understand His generosity correctly.

The same single God revealed Himself in different forms, in different places, in different times, to different people. He granted the same enlightenment [knowledge] to all in different languages. All those who are faithful to Him attain salvation upon receiving the enlightenment. Those who fail to accept it, are subjected to the liquid fire in hell. This approach towards God makes Him free from any blame of partiality. The God of all religions is one and the same. He may appear to be different due to differences in His approach to different people, in different times, in different forms and in different languages. He uplifts all with the same compassion.

The sea receives all the rivers in the same way, whether they are straight or curved. Devotion is important; not the religion or the path. If the straight river becomes proud and mocks at the curved river, God will see to it that the straight river will never reach Him. By His will, people will build a dam on that river to divert all the water!

Everyone needs to follow the path assigned in his faith to attain salvation. Every religion has different levels of spiritual enlightenment. One should move up to the higher level for achieving total enlightenment. Such enlightenment alone is the means of salvation. These levels of enlightenment in each religion are similar to the different levels in education such as school and college. Different religions are similar to different language mediums. The curriculum is same in all the language mediums. A pupil of a certain language medium should strive to reach higher levels of knowledge in the same medium of his choice. He is a pilgrim in pursuit of divinity. His medium is his opportunity. It is neither superior nor inferior to any other medium. He need not move on to another language medium to uplift himself. All the language mediums are different religions with different levels of knowledge.

A school student studying science in a particular medium (language) need not change his medium, because even if he changes, the syllabus will not be changed. He should strive to change his syllabus by raising his standard of knowledge i.e. he should graduate from the school level and reach the college level while remaining in the same language medium. The school and college levels exist in every medium. A school student does not become a college student just by changing the medium of his class. He becomes a college student only when the level of his knowledge rises. Similarly, a devotee of any religion should try to reach the higher spiritual level in his own religion. His spiritual level is not raised by changing his religion. Every religion has the lower and higher levels of spirituality meant for devotees of corresponding stages. Religion is the medium and spirituality is the curriculum or syllabus. This syllabus (spirituality) has different levels, such as school level, college level etc., present in the same medium (religion).

One should strive to reach the higher levels of knowledge that are present in his own faith. No one needs to move to another faith for getting a higher level of knowledge or for final salvation. All faiths lead to the same destination. In any path, you will have to proceed vertically to reach the goal. At any point, if you travel horizontally to another path, you will still remain at the same level, which is a waste. The realization of this truth alone ensures harmony among different faiths in the world. Failure to recognize the truth will not make anyone enlightened.

[When Swami concluded in this way, the Christian father stood up, touched his heart, traced a cross over it and said the following words.]

Father: We believe that Jesus will be born again. Yes. Jesus is born again now. Nobody else can explain like this. I am fully convinced”.

[When we returned to our house, Swami said the following to me.]

Swami: See, the Christian father did not rigidly limit his mind with conservatism. Every religion contains good and broadminded devotees. My effort in the propagation of this knowledge is for such devotees, who are present in every religion in this world.

Kobojunkiee:
Your swami seems desperate in his attempt to resolve two opposing views. He needs to take a course in Logic where he is sure to learn the simple things.

TRUE + FALSE = FALSE

The result of the above can never amount to TRUE.

The scripture does not give the detailed address of any specific human incarnation since God is not bound by any official schedule and can incarnate anywhere and anytime as per the justified necessity.

In the Gita, the Lord said that He will incarnate whenever there is necessity (Tadaatmaanam srujamyaham… Gita). In the Bible also, Jesus said that He will come again, which means that the God will come in human form again as per the necessity.
Jesus did not give any specific address of the future human incarnation. Every generation of humanity must be blessed with the human incarnation. Otherwise, God will be subjected to partiality since only one human generation was only blessed.

You should not say that the particular human generation blessed by the presence of the human incarnation alone is deserving and not other generations. This is not correct because Jesus was crucified by the people of that generation only. Every generation contains both good and bad people. Therefore, God comes in human form to give satisfaction to the good people and reform the bad people.

The human incarnation never declares itself as God in human form. The scripture also does not declare the specific details of any human incarnation in advance. Those people, who were anxious about God in human form, should recognize the contemporary human incarnation. By the grace of God, such people do recognize the human incarnation of their generation.

It is a secret affair between God and a specific group of devotees, who were anxious about the human incarnation. The devotees are of several types and all do not accept the concept of human incarnation. Only the top most devotees accept the concept of human incarnation. Several of these top most devotees do not accept the concept of contemporary human incarnation even though they accept the concept of human incarnation by limiting to a specific past human incarnation only.

The devotees of Krishna accept the concept of human incarnation in general but limit the concept to Krishna only even though Krishna Himself told that He will come in the human form again and again. Similarly, the Christians consider Jesus only as God.

The real identity mark to recognize the human incarnation is only the exceptional spiritual knowledge as said by the Veda (Satyam Jnanam, Prajnanam Bramha). The reason is that the true spiritual knowledge alone can give a right direction in the field of Nivrutti, which is permanent, related to the soul tramsimitting through several births[1].

Pravrutti is temporary, related to the issues of a particular birth only. Therefore, the permanent benefit of the soul lies in Nivrutti only. For Nivrutti, the right direction can be given by the true spiritual knowledge only. Miracle is not the identity mark of the human incarnation since even devils perform the miracles. Miracles are related to the solutions of the issues of Pravrutti only and hence, mislead the soul from Nivrutti.


You should not give much importance to the scripture because the original scripture spoken by God is always polluted with the insertions of various middle people, who meddle with the scripture. Therefore, you cannot differentiate the original scripture and the inserted portions of the scripture. You have to examine every statement of the scripture through very sharp and powerful logical analysis.
The logical analysis is the basis of the justice. Long logical debates take place in the court to find out the true justice. God always represents the true justice. The devotees desire God to appear in human form so that they can clarify their doubts in the spiritual line.
Such desire is justified and people cannot wait till a specified human incarnation comes since they are not immortal. Some people got clarifications from Krishna and Jesus.

Today also, there are some devotees, who are equally deserving or even more deserving to get clarifications from the human incarnation directly. If these present devotees are not given the same chance, God’s impartiality is not justified and therefore, the whole issue becomes illogical. Therefore, any statement of the scripture should be logical and justified, which alone can be the statement spoken by God. You have not seen God speaking this present scripture.

The scripture is handed over to you by your forefathers and nobody might have noticed the adulteration of the scripture that happened somewhere and sometime in this very long ancestral chain. One person told that since Kapila told a specific concept, it must be true. Shankara rejected this logic by saying that some other name also might be considered as the authority and only logical analysis should be the torch light to find out the truth.

Hence, Shankara introduced the necessity of the sharp analytical power to discriminate truth from falsehood for every devotee (Sadasat vivekah…). The physical indications can never be the signs of the human of incarnation since such signs were never told by the Veda.
Only the true Divine knowledge, which is exceptional and unimaginable, indicates the unimaginable God. This knowledge always stays with God and is never transferrable like the beauty of a lady. The miracles are like the jewels of the lady, which are transferrable to others.

[1]
Refers to Nivrutti accompanying the soul across several births
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imagrg:
I read with great wonder on Nairaland, the story of a 'Native' doctor who saw heaven and I want to share it with people who still believe that heaven doesn't exist.

Happy reading...

One shall think about the 50:50 probability of God, heaven and hell. Since the entire space is not travelled by anybody, presence and absence of God etc., can be taken based on equal probability. In such conditions of equal probability, the probability with the safest side must be selected.
Assuming that God and hell are absent, if I go on doing sins, not believing in God, and if by chance God and hell exist, I am finished! If I believe in the existence of God and hell, and live leading a pious spiritual line, even if God and hell are absent, there is no loss to Me.
In this case of probability (which is the absence of God and hell), I had a wonderful extra benefit during My life and that is, I lived peacefully without any strain about the future probable punishments here or in hell. In this way, it is far far better to follow spiritual life with faith in God whatever may be the truth regarding the existence of God and hell.
We need not settle in the spiritual line based on the above said 50-50 probability reasoning. We can even find out the 100% perfect line that favors spiritual life only. We need not argue that I am unable to show you the presence of hell and you need not argue that you are unable to show the absence of hell because for both of us, this space of universe is infinite.
In this case also, the same above said 50:50 probability will result. Hence, it is always better to find out the complete way of certainty of the concept. There are several miracles taking place in this world, which are available to us for our naked eyes. For example, if you search YOUTUBE videos you can find a person by name Satyanarayana Baba sitting for the past 23 yrs., in one place without food and water. Several people are surrounding him always. His address is near Rayagadh district in the state of Chattisgarrrh.
You can easily get this address from google search. Why don’t you go there and observe him thoroughly so that you can believe perfectly the existence of unimaginable power and the possessor of such power called unimaginable God or Parabrahman, who is the source of unimaginable events called miracles.
You can also find several videos containing the miracles of Shri Satya Sai Baba performed in public for further support of the concept. The true incidents of re-birth frequently appearing in this world and also the post death experience of some people are certainly proving that there is something positive in the background of the spiritual line.
By the above step, you have come to the stage of believing the existence of the unimaginable God. Now, you can realize that God, who is beyond space and time and is unimaginable, exists really and that He is the real source of these unimaginable events called miracles about which we are unable to give a logical explanation. God being the creator of all these souls is the divine Father of the souls, who is always trying to guide the souls in the true spiritual path. This is the main reason for the exhibition of miracles here by God. By this realization, you have recognized the real goal of human life and you must start in the true spiritual line to attain the grace of God.

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People have experienced the unimaginable God through inference though not through perception. The unimaginable events called miracles performed by the mediated God are experienced directly through perception.
When the smoke coming from the top of hill is experienced by you through perception, are you not imagining or inferring its source, the fire on the hill? Inference is as good authority as perception.
You may say that you have seen both fire and smoke in the kitchen and may say that you have not seen the unimaginable God and unimaginable miracles together anywhere. Okay. In that case, you have seen both mediated God and performed miracle together.
Is it not? Okay. You think the mediated God Himself as the unimaginable God because the mediated God is the source of the unimaginable miracle. Now, you may say that the mediated God is imaginable and visible and can’t be the unimaginable God. Okay.
Then, I will ask you this question:- How imaginable person generated the unimaginable miracle? If imaginable person can generate the unimaginable miracle, why every imaginable person is not generating the unimaginable miracle?
Hence, the imaginable and visible person generating unimaginable miracle must have the unimaginable source of unimaginable miracle in Himself in hidden way. If you say that the entire imaginable person is imaginable only and there is no hidden unimaginable entity in Him, your argument becomes absurd.
All My above questions will hit you like arrows (in such case every imaginable person must generate unimaginable miracle etc.). Hence, you have to agree that in this imaginable person (performing unimaginable miracle) only unimaginable entity must have been hidden. Therefore, you have to agree to the existence of unimaginable God, who is the source of unimaginable events called miracles perceived by everybody.
For the sake of perception of unimaginable events generated by the mediated God, you can see the CDs of Bhagavān Śrī Satya Sai Bāba doing miracles. Hence, unimaginable God is established by scientific logic. You can propagate this knowledge after seeing the CDs of Bhagavān Śrī Satya Sai Bāba.

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How can Holy Prophet Muhammad be the seal of the Prophets?

Shri Anil asked: How can Holy Prophet Muhammad be the seal of the Prophets? As per Muslims the Holy Prophet Muhammad is the last of the divine prophets. After His Eminence, no other prophet is going to be sent by God. They quote the following verse.
“Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Apostle of Allah and the Last of the prophets; and Allah is cognizant of all things.” (Sura 33:40)
With the sending down of the Qur’an, Muslims believe that the final revelation was given to the last and greatest of the prophets. For this reason, they give Muhammad the title “Seal of the Prophets”. Muslims also refer the following statement from Quran (Sura 61:6) which as per them was told by Jesus and is one of the basis for the argument that Muhammad is the last and final prophet.
And call6 to mind when Jesus, son of Mary, said: “O Children of Israel, I am Allah's Messenger to you, I verify the Torah which has come before me,7 and I give you the glad tiding of a Messenger who shall come after me, his name being Ahmad.”8 Yet when he came to them with Clear Signs they said: “This is sheer trickery.” 9 (Sura 61:6)
Whereas, Christians quote the following verse given in Matthew 24:29-31 for evidence of second coming of Jesus:
29 “Immediately after the distress of those days “‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
Due to these verses in Quran, Muslims are not getting an opportunity to enjoy the divine knowledge given by the Contemporary Human Incarnation of God and finally know the truth. However, God Krishna told in Gita that He will come again and again.
Swami, I request You to give a detailed reply why Muhammad told that He is the final and seal of the Prophets and also please correlative it with God Krishna’s statement in Gita and Jesus’s statement in Bible. At Your Divine Lotus Feet-anil]

Swami Replied:- We have to decide the meaning with reference to the correctness of the concept, but not decide merely by basing on what is written in the scripture. Any statement in any scripture can be the insertion done by any follower due to his blind fascination to his religion. Nobody can disprove this by presenting an audio-video cassette showing the incarnation of God telling the scripture.

We shall believe any statement of any scripture as correct provided that statement is logically analysed and is found correct. This statement is correct because the logical analysis shows that this statement is correct provided you take it in correct angle and not in any other twisted angle. Till then several prophets established several Gods and devotees were doing severe quarrels among themselves.

Prophet Mohammad came and unified all the Gods into one God called Allah. Similarly, in Hinduism also there were quarrels among devotees regarding different forms of God and Aadi Shankara came, who united all these different Gods into one God called Brahman (ParaBrahman).
From the point of such unification of all Gods into one absolute God, the knowledge of Aadi Shankara or the knowledge of Prophet Mohammad is one and the same. Even Jesus believed in the concept of one God called Yahova.

As far as this fundamental concept is concerned, this knowledge told by Aadi Shankara or Jesus or Mohammad is truly a sealed concept and no other prophet can change it. When it is said that Mohammad is the seal of the prophets, it means the concept preached by Mohammad is the seal of the knowledge, which can’t be changed by any prophet.

This concept is misunderstood because as soon as you hear the name of Mohammad, if you belong to other religion, you become emotional that your religion is insulted and misunderstand the actual concept due to lack of patience to enquire the statement with steadiness.

When you hear that Mohammad is the seal of Prophets, it means simultaneously Shankara or Jesus or Buddha is also the seal of the Prophets because the same concept is told by these four Prophets. Even Buddha indicated that unimaginable God alone is the one God because His silence about God indicates only the unimaginable God beyond words.

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FreeSpirited:
........days. I shouted his name...Kunle! Wetin u kon do here. I asked his wife, he said he's not married...I said shebi u had one babe u intended to marry back then...he said the babe Bleep up.
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Naso I wake o. The dream was so real.
Abeg what's the meaning of this visit by unexpected roommates.
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Many people say that they had visions. Shall we believe these visions as true or false?
(A question by Dr. KV Rao)
Swāmi Replied:- Every concept has both obverse and reverse sides of a coin. All visions are not false and all visions are not true. Generally, people will not tell lies in the case of Divine visions. But, there are some people, who tell lies in order to get some fame by drawing special attention of public in the society on the point that they were blessed by God due to their special deservingness.
Let Me take My own example. In Śrīśailam, I used to preach Spiritual knowledge to Śrī CBK Murthy and his wife Smt. Bhavānī everyday saying that God Datta appeared before Me and told this excellent knowledge. They were appreciating the knowledge, but, were having a doubt in their innermost hearts. I knew that they have that doubt by the grace of God Datta in spite of their maintenance of very very deep secrecy about this doubt. One day, I told them that God Datta appeared before Me and merged with Me.
About this vision also, they had a secret doubt in their hearts even though they were not expressing even a trace of such doubt. But, next day itself, a miracle happened before their eyes only and hence, they believed about this merge of God Datta with Me and also about the earlier Divine visions. The miracle is:- Next day itself, one Saint standing back far from Me saw Me in the temple from a distance and thought that if I was incarnation of God Datta, I should walk back in the row of devotees and jump up to ring a condemned bell tied up in the temple. That bell existed at a very height also and a new bell was hanged at reachable height, which has been rung by the devotees. As soon as the Saint thought like this, I looked back into his face, smiled, went back, jumped up to such height and rang the condemned bell. After this, I looked back at him and smiled again. The Saint came to our residence and told us (the old couple and Myself) about this incident.
Shri CBK Murthy told the Saint that God Datta appears before Me and talks with Me every day. That Saint took an unexpected wrong twist and shouted at Me saying “Datta appears before You? It is not Datta, it is a ghost because in this Kaliyuga, Datta never appears to anybody”. Then, I became very angry with red eyes and told him with anger “You petty fellow! You know some black magic and you tried to use it on your preacher and your preacher slapped you and necked you out from his asylum.
Since then, you are roaming here and there”. The Saint shouted back at Me saying “You are speaking lies” and went away. Next day, early morning at 4 AM, the Saint ran to our residence and fell on My feet saying “All the last night I tried to do black magic on You. The divine mother appeared before me and knuckled on my head with her folded hand. With that, all stars appeared before my eyes! What You said about me and my Guru was exactly true. I will go back to my Guru and please bless me so that my Guru will accept me”. I told him to go back to his Guru and promised him that his Guru will receive him back without any anger. When the old couple (CBK Murthy and Bhavānī) saw all this, they developed full faith on My daily visions of God Datta and the vision in which God Datta merged with Me. From that day onwards, several miracles happened almost daily, which stood as proof for the merge along with the main proof of the excellent quality of this true Spiritual knowledge.
Recently also I told My devotees that they should not believe if I say that I had visions of Datta or that Datta merged with Me. Anybody can tell such stories to exploit the innocent public. When I say that the knowledge spoken by Me is from God Datta, they should believe it based on the quality of the excellent true Spiritual knowledge spoken by Me. The vision must have confirmation to believe it as true. Why I told about these visions to My devotees? My actual idea was that devotees should not attribute even a trace of credit to Me for this excellent Spiritual knowledge or for these unimaginable events called miracles. Repeatedly, I said that the entire credit goes to God Datta only and that I am just a medium for Him. By telling like this, I exposed My human side so that none will be affected by ego-based jealousy, due to which, he/she shall not miss the benefit of this excellent true Spiritual knowledge.

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Devotees are confused about who is Father , Son and Holy Spirit. Today all their spiritual doubts will be clarified for ever.
God comes to this world by entering a deserving devotee existing on this earth called as SON OF GOD to become human incarnation of God. The original God is unimaginable, and invisible. Such God enters an energetic form in the upper world and is called FATHER OF HEAVEN. This Father of heaven enters to a deserving devotee existing on the earth to become SON OF GOD or HUMAN INCARNATION OF GOD.

Thus Jesus was such SON OF GOD to whom FATHER OF HEAVEN ENTERED for the mission of divine knowledge propagation in this world. Whoever has seen alive Jesus that time had seen Father of heaven only, this is the only way for human beings here, when any human being meeting present SON OF GOD he had seen the Father of heaven. This was the reason why Jesus told to Philip that when he had seen Jesus he had verily seen Father of heaven only.
When the same God enters formless energy it become Holy Spirit.
Thus:
Unimaginable absolute God = Father of Heaven = Son of God (God-in-Flesh or Human incarnation) = Holy Spirit

Let us analyse in detail these divine knowledge.


The energetic incarnation in which unimaginable God merged is meant by the word ‘Father’. Son means the human being component selected by Father in which the Father gets merged and such son is called as human incarnation or Son of God. Since the unimaginable God exists in both Father and Son, both are one and the same because anything done by Father and Son must be the same due to the same common unimaginable God.

Hence, there is no difference between Father and Son since both are the incarnations of unimaginable God only. Both are like the two hands doing the same work and two legs walking in the same direction. Jesus is the human incarnation like cotton shirt and the divine Father of heaven is the energetic incarnation like silk shirt of the same person called unimaginable God. Jesus says that the Son of God (Himself) will judge the souls and not the Father.

The meaning of this statement is that though Father and Son are one and the same, you have to call the mediated unimaginable God by the name of the Son of God only since the Son of God (human incarnation) is relevant to this humanity and not the Father (energetic incarnation), who is relevant to the energetic souls present in the upper world only. When a person staying in the state of Tamilnadu says ‘our chief minister’, he is only referring the chief minister of the state of Tamilanadu only and not the chief minister of Orissa though both are the same chief ministers only.

When you are staying in a state, the chief minister of that state is only relevant to you to approach for any grievance and not the chief minister of other state. This statement reveals only the stress of relevance of human incarnation for the humanity. The human being believing the human incarnation is always blessed by the absolute God, who exists in that very human incarnation only and such devotee crosses over from death to life.

Here death means the state in which God is forgotten (Ref.: Sanat Sujitiyam of Mahabharata) and life means the state in which God is always remembered. It is crossing over the worldly bonds to reach bond with God. The believer in the human incarnation participates in the propagation of the knowledge of human incarnation and such a divine servant will not be judged in the upper world since his/her file will be kept inactive in cold storage. Other ordinary souls are judged and dispatched to the concerned upper worlds like heaven and hell as per the judicial inquiry of the file of the soul.

In the Human Incarnation, there are two components: (1) the God-component (Father) and (2) the human being-component(Son of God). Before His arrest, as Jesus was praying to God, it was the human being-component that prayed to God, requesting Him to avoid the crucifixion, if possible. In this situation, the human being-component had separated from God. Later on during the trial, God had merged with the human being-component again and, as a result, the human being-component kept silent.
Even while praying to God before the arrest, the separated human being-component agreed that if God wished for the crucifixion to occur, God’s wish should be fulfilled. Even though the human being-component exhibited its normal nature of getting tense and feeling agony, being a perfect devotee of God, the human being-component gave its full consent to God for the crucifixion (“Let thy will be done”). The cruel crucifixion of Jesus was a divine programme meant to reform the cruel hearts of the public and fill their hearts with love and kindness.

In a question answer form I am giving the answer

'If Jesus is Almighty God, why did He fear dying and was so stressed that He sweated blood the night before?'
Answer
Swami replied:- Jesus is a human incarnation of the Father of heaven in whom the unimaginable God is existing in merged state. The human incarnation is a single face resulting by the merge of two components:-

1) The God component and

2) The human being component.

When current enters the metallic wire, the properties of wire (like the colour of metal, leanness as wire etc.,) are not at all disturbed. The wire attains the property of current as additional property, which is giving shock when touched.This new property of the current attained by the wire also does not disturb the normal properties of the wire. Jesus, a devoted human being, is selected by God to undergo the suffering of sins of deserving devotees of God. It is the love of God to undergo suffering for the punishments of His beloved devotees standing in climax of devotion. Emmanuel is the word that means God came down to save His people and not to save all the people. The interpretation that God came to save all the people is not correct, but, it is useful to convert everybody into devotee of God through sympathy by saying so as per the Arthavaada (Arthavaada is a lie used to do some good work and such lie is not wrong.). Hence, the soul, called as Jesus, was selected by God for this purpose because of its divine virtues like kindness, patience etc.

The soul was also willing to do this work of God and hence, such good soul is selected by God. But, when this good soul is associated with a human body, the soul develops some sort of attachment to the body due to the virtue of friendship. This association became naturally strong in the case of Jesus, in course of a long time of life for more than 30 years. Due to this long association, the soul is superimposed on the body due to excess of love to the body. You can find such superimposition in strong love of a boy and girl since each one feels that he/she is the same as the other partner! This is the nature of human soul even though it is merged with the God, who is non-interfering with the personal qualities of the soul. If you go to the house of your friend and stay for a few days for your personal work in that city, you will mind your work without interfering with discussions between your friend and his wife! Due to this freedom of soul, the association of body imparts tremendous love on the soul to such extent, in which the soul feels that it is the body. By this, the suffering of body is experienced by the soul. The expected suffering of the punishments of the devoted souls by Him was viewed by Jesus as tremendous one. Hence, He suffered a lot to say that He sweated blood.

Sweating blood explains the intensity of suffering as a figure speech and need not be taken as reality. The next day suffering is going to be so high that even Jesus prayed to avoid the punishment, if possible. But, He immediately remembered His acceptance already given to God and told God that let the punishment take place since it is the will of God. Even after crucifixion, He cried with thirst based on the human nature and questioned God for leaving Him so. Actually God didn’t leave Him, who is also equally experiencing that suffering being merged with Jesus through the Father of heaven. Due to this homogenous and perfect merge only, we call the human incarnation (God in human form) itself as the ultimate God. In fact, God is appearing through the human form and is the master of the soul as well as the human body.
God takes the place of the soul and the soul is degraded to the level (phase) of the body. Hence, the ultimate suffering is experienced by the ultimate God through Father of heaven and Jesus. Even then, the media of unimaginable God (Father of heaven as first energetic body and Jesus as human body) also undergoes suffering in the service of God. Jesus, Father of heaven and the ultimate unimaginable God are three, who underwent the suffering and this is the meaning of the statement of Jesus, who told that He will resurrect the body in three days. This is also the meaning of the word Aatreya in the name Dattaatreya. Aatreya means not three, but, one since al the three merged perfectly to become one.
Every human soul tries to become God seeing the status and fame of human incarnation having miraculous powers. If the actual suffering of the human incarnation for the sake of its devotees is realized, people will run away from such monism with fastest speed! Hence, in reality, it is not the fruit of the effort of the soul, but, it is the duty assigned to the servant by God. Once, a devotee came to Shri Satya Sai Baba and asked Him to transfer His state to him.

Immediately, Baba agreed and gave His state to the devotee, by keeping His hand on the head of the devotee. Then, the devotee heard thousands of cries asking Baba for help in the difficulties. Even by hearing so many cries, the devotee felt as if his head is breaking into million pieces! The poor devotee doesn’t know the later state in which the devotee becomes God through human incarnation and undergoes the suffering of all those, who cried for help!! Had he known this subsequent fact also, he would have become mad. This is the reason why Paramahamsa said that He would like to be an ant biting the sugar and not to be the sugar itself to be bitten by the devotee-ants!

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Seeing Visions Of Believers In Hell: What You Should Know About Dreams & Visions of Heaven & Hell

A Bible Study by Prince Gabriel Okocha

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Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God[/b]

He (the believer) is joined to Christ, wherever Christ is is where he is. Where the believer goes is where Christ goes.

1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
Not only is the believer joined to Christ, he is also joined in the Spirit to other believers. Where one goes is where others will go.
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.



So to say that you saw a believer (a man who has received Salvation) in hell, is like saying you saw ALL believers in hell. We are so knitted together that our eternal destinies are intertwined, where one goes is where all goes.


If this is true, why then do people see such visions of believers going to hell for any reason?
The answer is simple. It is due to the kind of teaching they have been exposed to.

The human mind is so powerful that it can project whatever teaching you constantly feed it to your dreams and visions. This is why the scriptures encourages us to constantly renew our minds to the truths of God’s word, so we don’t end up missing out on the dividends of salvation.

Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
As you constantly renew your mind to the laid out truths of God’s eternal salvation in the scriptures, you will start having only real godly dreams and visions of heaven or hell.

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Visions are of two types:

1) Internal: These visions are projections of your mind only. So many feelings are hidden in your mind from several births onwards. These feelings are expressed as visions and appear as real external scenes. This happens to be a mental illness about which doctors say that the patient talks with another person appearing before him. This is true since it is a scientific fact.

2) External: A scene appears without any relationship with your mind. This is not the projection of your mind and is not a mental illness. The scene is arranged externally and the forms appearing are energetic. This is independent and not any feeling of your mind. This appears due to some external reasons to give you some external information.

The real problem is that the internal vision is often mistaken as the external vision. Your own aspiration is conveyed there to you. You are mislead by such false external vision. Most of the people even tell lies that they had external visions in order to get some recognition in the surrounding public. They feel that it is prestigious to have such visions, which bring special status for them. This should be stopped. The reason is that the spiritual path is always based on truth only. By telling lies for such false fame, you get sin unnecessarily. Even if you get visions really, you should analyse the vision whether they are internal or external. If the result of such vision is proved practically, you can conclude such vision as external since internal visions have no practical outcome.

Unless practical result comes out of it, it may not be the real external vision. It may be your internal vision expressing your long time hidden aspiration. The practical reality of the outcome of the vision should be proved so that we can infer the reality of the external vision. The proof is in reverse way, which is from fruit (practical outcome) to cause (vision). If the vision says that something will happen, you should wait till that happens practically in reality. Then only, you can say that the vision is practically real. You should wait till the practical result is clearly seen and then only you should declare that your vision is correct. Otherwise, millions of visions are expressed by millions of people.

I tell here My own experience. I had a vision in which Lord Dattatreya appeared and asked Me to propagate the spiritual knowledge. The energetic form of Lord Dattatreya also merged in Me indicating that I was totally possessed by Lord Dattatreya. The Lord said that I will have to propagate excellent spiritual knowledge. I never opened all this and kept silent about the visions thinking that such visions may be My internal visions expressing My aspirations. But, when the spiritual knowledge that radiated from Me happened to be wonderful, I conformed that the visions were true and propagated the information about the visions. Hence, the reality of the visions should be totally experienced and then only we should declare the visions.

Similarly, the scripture also should not be believed without logical analysis and similarly, the vision should not be believed without practical experience of the future outcome. Both the scripture and the vision should not be mentioned at the very outset because the strength of the scripture and the vision should not force you in any way to accept the truth without analysis. The scripture supported by sharp logical analysis and the vision supported by the practical outcome alone stand as true. The essential point is that you should not aspire for the false fame and you will achieve nothing out of it except unnecessary sin.

Similarly, the dreams. Most of the dreams are reflections of your feelings absorbed externally or may be the reflections of your feelings acquired in the previous births. These dreams also must be tested by the practical outcome after which only you should narrate your dreams to others. Otherwise, your mind becomes a treasure of confusion and you will also make others to become treasures of confusion. If you are attracted by false prestige and waste time in explaining these visions and dreams to others, it becomes a sin since you are not only killing your precious time but also the precious time of others. Instead of wasting your time in such false or waste talks, you can make the time perfectly useful in discussing about the spiritual knowledge or in singing devotional songs to earn the grace of God.


-By Shri Datta Swami
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Is it just me or does this read like absolute gibberish it really is...... i mean this swami guy's desperate, inane attempt here?

Jesus showed several miracles to give proof for the existence of unimaginable God appearing as Father of heaven in the first energetic medium. But, these miracles raised ego and jealousy in the hearts of priests, who were honoured by public in par with God. Politics is universal and does not leave even the spiritual field.

The priests did not realise that Jesus was helping their spiritual line only because the basis for any spiritual path is the acceptance of existence of unimaginable God mediated in energetic or human medium. In fact, Jesus was God in human medium and He indicated this point also by saying that He is the light and the true path to God. As the preaching of spiritual knowledge of Jesus rose to climax, the ego based jealousy of priests also rose to climax and the result was crucifixion of Jesus to leave the body at 32 years of age.

Had He continued His life fully, so many concepts might have been clarified with far better explanations. Prophet Mohammad analysed all this and found that the concept of contemporary human incarnation performing miracles for confirmation is the root cause of such an unimaginable sin like crucifixion. Hence, He tried to eliminate both these concepts of incarnation and miracles because He felt that no human being can conquer ego and jealousy towards a co-human form.

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Logic used to carry out sharp analysis which is supported by the scriptures is the only path to disprove any wrong claim. The scripture says that the fruit of the deed must be enjoyed by a soul and that, unless the fruit is enjoyed, it will not vanish even after millions of births (Avaśyamanubhoktavyam…, kalpakotiśatairapi...).
God has clearly said in the Gītā that He will neither cancel the good fruits nor the bad fruits of the deeds of any soul (Nādatte kasyachitpāpaṃ, nacaiva sukṛtaṃ vibhuḥ...). He also said in the Gītā that ignorant people claim otherwise and exploit innocent public (Ajñānenāvṛtaṃ jñānaṃ, tena muhyanti jantavaḥ…).
God has given only one path to burn the fruits of sins, which is the realization by spiritual knowledge leading to repentance and the non-repetition of the sin (Jñāngniḥ sarva karmāṇi, bhasmasāt kurute…). Even a sinner can be reformed by long serious and sincere devotion. By the grace of God, such a sinner being a strong devotee will come in contact with a divine preacher and get reformed (Kṣipraṃ bhavati dharmātmā…).
In this way, in the long run, there is a possibility of burning one’s sins. But it is not possible immediately, without the person’s reformation. The false theory of the immediate cancellation of sins is propagated by the priests so that they can earn their livelihood. They charge fees from innocent people to carry out different forms of worship, which are claimed to cancel the fruits of their sins immediately, even without their reformation.
No reformation is possible by reading some hymns in Sanskrit, which are not understood by anybody doing the worship. The actual way is that while doing the worship, the priest must explain to the person what he is reciting and help the person get realization through the spiritual knowledge preached through the Sanskrit hymns. The present way of performing the rituals accompanied by the blind recitation of the Veda does not help the person doing worship in any way.
Therefore, if a ritual is not helping in conveying spiritual knowledge and devotion to the public, it is a waste. This important fact should be preached to the priests who conduct these rituals for the public. Only upon getting realization through spiritual knowledge, will there be repentance and only after repentance, will the non-repetition of sin result. Hence, preaching spiritual knowledge through the ritual is the most important aspect of the ritual. You think that God will be pleased with your ritual worship done without spiritual knowledge. You think that He will cancel the fruits of the sins done by you and that He will grant you the good fruits of the meritorious deeds that you never did.
This is totally wrong! For such worship and prayers done by you, He will only rearrange the fruits of your deeds. He will postpone the fruits of your sins due to which you are suffering in the present. But in this rearrangement, interest will be added. So, the postponed punishment, which is the fruit of your sin, will grow and you will have to suffer more in the future.
He will also prepone the fruits of some meritorious deeds, which you were supposed to enjoy in the future and bring them into the present. In this preponement, there will be a reduction in the value of the fruit enjoyed by you. Even this rearrangement is done by God provided God has some hope about the devotee’s future reformation. If He has no such hope in the case of a devotee, even this facility or rearrangement of the fruits of deeds is not extended to the devotee.
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Crucifixion of Jesus- Co-relating Bible and Quran View

QUESTION

[Q) In Bible it is said that Jesus was crucified and it was the plan of God so that Jesus suffered for His people. However in Quran it is said that they did not kill Him. Why these contradictions between Quran and Bible? Which one to believe?
They did not kill Jesus
“And for of their saying, ‘We have killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the messenger of God.’ But they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it was made to look like him to them. And those who disagree over him are in doubt (of killing him), they have no knowledge of it except the following of guesswork, and they did not kill him for certain. But God raised him up to Himself. And God is All-¬Powerful, All-¬Wise.” (Quran 4:157-158)
One of the disciple volunteered in place of Jesus
Another version is as follows:
The following narration recorded in the Qur'anic exegesis of Ibn Kathir is graded as authentic by orthodox Sunni scholars for the Qur'anic verse related to the substitution of Jesus:
Ibn Abbas said, "Just before Allah raised Jesus to the Heavens, Jesus went to his disciples, who were twelve inside the house. When he arrived, his hair was dripping with water (as if he had just had a bath) and he said, 'There are those among you who will disbelieve in me twelve times after you had believed in me.' He then asked, 'Who among you will volunteer for his appearance to be transformed into mine, and be killed in my place. Whoever volunteers for that, he will be with me (in Paradise).' One of the youngest ones among them volunteered, but Jesus asked him to sit down. Jesus asked again for a volunteer, and the same young man volunteered and Jesus asked him to sit down again. Then the young man volunteered a third time and Jesus said, 'You will be that man,' and the resemblance of Jesus was cast over that man while Jesus ascended to Heaven from a hole in the roof of the house. When the Jews came looking for Jesus, they found that young man and crucified him. Some of Jesus' followers disbelieved in him twelve times after they had believed in him. They then divided into three groups. One group, the Jacobites, said, 'Allah remained with us as long as He willed and then ascended to Heaven.' Another group, the Nestorians, said, 'The son of Allah was with us as long as he willed and Allah took him to Heaven.' Another group, the Muslims, said, 'The servant and Messenger of Allah remained with us as long as Allah willed, and Allah then took him to Him.' The two disbelieving groups cooperated against the Muslim group and they killed them. Ever since that happened, Islam was then veiled until Allah sent Muhammad." — Al-Nasa'i, Al-Kubra, 6:489]

EXPLANATION:

Swami replied
The first version is that the disciple of Jesus sacrificed his life for the sake of Jesus and the actual Jesus went to Heaven while the disciple looking like Jesus was crucified. This statement should be carefully understood as the meaning of one entity only and not two entities.

The human incarnation(God in human form) results when the energetic incarnation of unimaginable God (Father of Heaven) merges with a selected human devotee (like Jesus) for a specific spiritual program. The inner energetic form is also looking like the same external human form. Then only the merge of all the limbs of the energetic body with the limbs of external human form becomes possible as explained in the Veda (Kenopanishat). This explains the similar features of Father of Heaven and Son of God looking alike. This inner energetic incarnation of God (Father of Heaven) is referred by the name Jesus here. The external human form is actually a human being with life and does not die if the Father of Heaven escapes it to go to Heaven. The external human form is a human being made of external inert human body (Aparaaprakruti) and inner awareness or individual soul or Jiva (Paraaprakruti). The disciple leftover is none but the external human being with inert body and non-inert soul. The crucifixion of the disciple means killing the external human being component only since the Father of Heaven can never by killed by anybody. This is a parable explaining a very deep spiritual concept. You should not take the meaning of statement word by word in a parable. The overall inner sense should be extracted with careful analysis. The disciple, who was prepared for even the sacrifice of life, represents the total sacrifice and such devotee is only selected by God to become the human incarnation. The other devotees were not prepared for such extreme sacrifice and hence were not selected for human incarnation.


In the second part, three philosophies of monism (Advaita), special intermediate monism standing between perfect monism and perfect dualism (Vishistaadvaita) and the perfect dualism (Dvaita) were described. First type believes Jesus as God, second type believes Jesus as son of God and third type believes Jesus as messenger of God. When Jesus was crucified, the first type and second type get affected since in the first type, directly God gets crucified and in the second type, the most beloved Son of God gets crucified. Both these concepts make Jesus as perfectly Divine (God) or partially Divine (Son of God). Prophet Mohammed is not agreeing that the petty human beings can crucify God or son of God. He believes in perfect dualism and the external human being into whom God entered is totally different from the inner God. Therefore, human beings could crucify only a human being since they cannot crucify God or Son of God. This perfect dualism is indicated by Jesus asking the devotee coming forward every time prepared for the sacrifice of his life for God to get crucifixion. The final conclusion of this concept is that the created human beings can never crucify the Creator or the Son of God, who is inseparable from God. In Vishistaadvaita, the soul or awareness of the human being is the Son of God and the soul can never be killed even in the case of crucifixion of an ordinary human being since soul is inseparable from God. The conclusion of the Prophet is that neither God nor soul (Son of God) can be crucified. Only the external living body (Messenger) can be crucified.


However, Prophet knows the values of philosophies of first type and second type also. When current (God) enters the wire( an extremly devoted soul called Son of God), the wire is pervaded all over by the current and wire itself is called as current (monism) for all practical purposes. The current is energy and wire is matter, which differ totally from each other (dualism).Current is the main powerful component (angi or sheshi) and wire is the secondary component (anga or shesha) and both current and wire are inseparable (special intermediate monism). Beware that all this discussion of three philosophies pertain only to human incarnation (God in human form like Jesus) and not to ordinary human being.

The Prophet is very much upset by the cruel people crucifying the human incarnation. If the human incarnation is reduced to an ordinary human being (messenger) filtering the God and Divinity, there will be no danger of killing the human incarnation because jealousy will be totally subsided since human incarnation is also reduced to just a human being like us without any trace of specialty. To avoid this danger of jealousy for the future Prophets, the very kind Prophet Mohammed rejected the concepts of human incarnation to be God or Son of God. God means the absolute unimaginable God. Son of God means the soul charged by God by God’s Divinity.

We must see the generosity and sacrifice of Prophet Mohammed to reduce Himself to the state of messenger sent by God, even though He Himself is the Son of God and also actual God in the innermost sense. For the sake of safety of human incarnations, He sacrificed the reality of His actual highest status reducing to lower level of Messenger (lowest level is an ordinary human being).



- By Shri Datta Swami


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Hell simply means Grave there is no thought or knowledge in the grave (Hell) where all humans are going! Ecclesiastes 9:10

The hell exists in the space far above our earth, which can be seen only by the grace of God. The reason is that the souls embedded in the energetic bodies reaching hell for punishments and the divine administration staff including the entire hell is made of energy, which has frequency far above the reachable frequency of the electromagnetic spectrum. The concept of hell will give some control on the sin, which is very much advantageous to anybody. If the faith on the existence of the hell shades away, your future will be very serious and I assuredly tell all of you about this point.

You may argue that I cannot take you into the space and show the existence of the hell to you. But, at the same time you cannot also take Me into this infinite space up to its boundary and show Me the non-existence of the hell. In such case, the hell may exist or may not exist. Both the options have equal probability. In such case, a wise person will select the probability of lesser risk, which is to believe the existence of hell. If you are careful in not doing the sins, based on your faith in the existence of hell, nothing is lost even if the hell is absent.

If you take other option to disbelieve the existence of hell and go on doing the sins, you are lost if the hell exists. Therefore, the first option is always far better than the second one. You need not believe that much only whatever is seen by you. Inference is also an authority of the knowledge in which you believe in the existence of something, which is not seen by you. The miracles exhibited by the devotees in this world prove the existence of unimaginable areas.

The Veda says that the past memory of the hell or previous birth is nipped off with the nails of God (Paraanchi Khaani...). This means that the memory in us is lost by the will of God only. The reason is that if the memory of the hell remains, the individual will just shiver with fear and will be unable to do anything or even to read the scripture. This is not desirable to God, who likes the soul to start a fresh life forgetting all the past and achieve not only the worldly goals but also spiritual goals. Similarly, if the memory of the previous births exists in the mind of the human being, such a human being will utterly confuse due to millions of family bonds that appear whenever it goes out of the house.

In such a confusion, the human being will become mad and the same situation of inactivity results. Hence, everything set-up by God has its own meaning and do not criticize God in hasty manner. A passenger suffering with heat in summer came under a huge Neem tree to rest for some time. He thought that God is foolish because the huge tree is having tiny fruits where as the tender pumpkin creeper is loaded with very big fruits. Thinking like this, he slept for some time. He awoke after some time and found the tiny fruits, which have fallen on him from the tree. Then he realized his mistake thinking that he was foolish where as God is very wise. If the huge tree has proportionally huge fruits, his head should have been broken by the fruits, which are fallen on him! Therefore, patience must be the first quality of the spiritual knowledge as said by Shankara (Shamadamaadi...).

Crucifixion of Jesus- Co-relating Bible and Quran View

[Q) In Bible it is said that Jesus was crucified and it was the plan of God so that Jesus suffered for His people. However in Quran it is said that they did not kill Him. Why these contradictions between Quran and Bible? Which one to believe?
They did not kill Jesus
“And for of their saying, ‘We have killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the messenger of God.’ But they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it was made to look like him to them. And those who disagree over him are in doubt (of killing him), they have no knowledge of it except the following of guesswork, and they did not kill him for certain. But God raised him up to Himself. And God is All-¬Powerful, All-¬Wise.” (Quran 4:157-158)
One of the disciple volunteered in place of Jesus
Another version is as follows:
The following narration recorded in the Qur'anic exegesis of Ibn Kathir is graded as authentic by orthodox Sunni scholars for the Qur'anic verse related to the substitution of Jesus:
Ibn Abbas said, "Just before Allah raised Jesus to the Heavens, Jesus went to his disciples, who were twelve inside the house. When he arrived, his hair was dripping with water (as if he had just had a bath) and he said, 'There are those among you who will disbelieve in me twelve times after you had believed in me.' He then asked, 'Who among you will volunteer for his appearance to be transformed into mine, and be killed in my place. Whoever volunteers for that, he will be with me (in Paradise).' One of the youngest ones among them volunteered, but Jesus asked him to sit down. Jesus asked again for a volunteer, and the same young man volunteered and Jesus asked him to sit down again. Then the young man volunteered a third time and Jesus said, 'You will be that man,' and the resemblance of Jesus was cast over that man while Jesus ascended to Heaven from a hole in the roof of the house. When the Jews came looking for Jesus, they found that young man and crucified him. Some of Jesus' followers disbelieved in him twelve times after they had believed in him. They then divided into three groups. One group, the Jacobites, said, 'Allah remained with us as long as He willed and then ascended to Heaven.' Another group, the Nestorians, said, 'The son of Allah was with us as long as he willed and Allah took him to Heaven.' Another group, the Muslims, said, 'The servant and Messenger of Allah remained with us as long as Allah willed, and Allah then took him to Him.' The two disbelieving groups cooperated against the Muslim group and they killed them. Ever since that happened, Islam was then veiled until Allah sent Muhammad." — Al-Nasa'i, Al-Kubra, 6:489]

EXPLANATION:

Swami replied: [font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]The first version is that the disciple of Jesus sacrificed his life for the sake of Jesus and the actual Jesus went to Heaven while the disciple looking like Jesus was crucified. This statement should be carefully understood as the meaning of one entity only and not two entities.

The human incarnation(God in human form) results when the energetic incarnation of unimaginable God (Father of Heaven) merges with a selected human devotee (like Jesus) for a specific spiritual program. The inner energetic form is also looking like the same external human form. Then only the merge of all the limbs of the energetic body with the limbs of external human form becomes possible as explained in the Veda (Kenopanishat). This explains the similar features of Father of Heaven and Son of God looking alike. This inner energetic incarnation of God (Father of Heaven) is referred by the name Jesus here. The external human form is actually a human being with life and does not die if the Father of Heaven escapes it to go to Heaven. The external human form is a human being made of external inert human body (Aparaaprakruti) and inner awareness or individual soul or Jiva (Paraaprakruti). The disciple leftover is none but the external human being with inert body and non-inert soul. The crucifixion of the disciple means killing the external human being component only since the Father of Heaven can never by killed by anybody. This is a parable explaining a very deep spiritual concept. You should not take the meaning of statement word by word in a parable. The overall inner sense should be extracted with careful analysis. The disciple, who was prepared for even the sacrifice of life, represents the total sacrifice and such devotee is only selected by God to become the human incarnation. The other devotees were not prepared for such extreme sacrifice and hence were not selected for human incarnation.


In the second part, three philosophies of monism (Advaita), special intermediate monism standing between perfect monism and perfect dualism (Vishistaadvaita) and the perfect dualism (Dvaita) were described. First type believes Jesus as God, second type believes Jesus as son of God and third type believes Jesus as messenger of God. When Jesus was crucified, the first type and second type get affected since in the first type, directly God gets crucified and in the second type, the most beloved Son of God gets crucified. Both these concepts make Jesus as perfectly Divine (God) or partially Divine (Son of God). Prophet Mohammed is not agreeing that the petty human beings can crucify God or son of God. He believes in perfect dualism and the external human being into whom God entered is totally different from the inner God. Therefore, human beings could crucify only a human being since they cannot crucify God or Son of God. This perfect dualism is indicated by Jesus asking the devotee coming forward every time prepared for the sacrifice of his life for God to get crucifixion. The final conclusion of this concept is that the created human beings can never crucify the Creator or the Son of God, who is inseparable from God. In Vishistaadvaita, the soul or awareness of the human being is the Son of God and the soul can never be killed even in the case of crucifixion of an ordinary human being since soul is inseparable from God. The conclusion of the Prophet is that neither God nor soul (Son of God) can be crucified. Only the external living body (Messenger) can be crucified.


However, Prophet knows the values of philosophies of first type and second type also. When current (God) enters the wire( an extremly devoted soul called Son of God), the wire is pervaded all over by the current and wire itself is called as current (monism) for all practical purposes. The current is energy and wire is matter, which differ totally from each other (dualism).Current is the main powerful component (angi or sheshi) and wire is the secondary component (anga or shesha) and both current and wire are inseparable (special intermediate monism). Beware that all this discussion of three philosophies pertain only to human incarnation (God in human form like Jesus) and not to ordinary human being.

The Prophet is very much upset by the cruel people crucifying the human incarnation. If the human incarnation is reduced to an ordinary human being (messenger) filtering the God and Divinity, there will be no danger of killing the human incarnation because jealousy will be totally subsided since human incarnation is also reduced to just a human being like us without any trace of specialty. To avoid this danger of jealousy for the future Prophets, the very kind Prophet Mohammed rejected the concepts of human incarnation to be God or Son of God. God means the absolute unimaginable God. Son of God means the soul charged by God by God’s Divinity.

We must see the generosity and sacrifice of Prophet Mohammed to reduce Himself to the state of messenger sent by God, even though He Himself is the Son of God and also actual God in the innermost sense. For the sake of safety of human incarnations, He sacrificed the reality of His actual highest status reducing to lower level of Messenger (lowest level is an ordinary human being).



- By Shri Datta Swami


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Universal Spirituality for World Peace

One shall follow justice and avoid injustice in this world, even if one do not serve or worship God.

Will of God is to serve God without expecting anything in return from Him. One shall treat God as our own son and serve Him. God created this entire universe for His own entertainment only. If one love God and serve Him such a person become dear and near to God.

If you love God then you will serve Him unconditionally.

If we sin we will get misery. Punishment is for reformation alone. God punishes anybody not with vengeance or anger but with love and care only. If one realize, repent and do not repeat any sins from today onwards all their past sins will be forgiven by God. This is the promise of God to us.

If one say that their religion is the only path to God and that other paths lead to hell, I have one humble question for them. This question applies to followers of every religion without any trace of partiality. The simple question is: Today I have heard about their religion and if I follow it, I reach God while if I refuse, I will go to the hell for my own fault. This is very much reasonable. But before their ancestors discovered the country I come from, the scriptures or even the name of their religion was not known to My ancestors and they could not reach God for no fault of theirs. On the other hand, their ancestors followed their religion and reached God at that time. Even if I assume that My ancestors will take rebirth in the present time and will follow their religion to reach God, such a possibility is ruled out because they say that there is no rebirth for the soul. Thus My ancestors suffered forever for no fault of theirs. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that God must be partial. Had God been impartial, He would have revealed your religion to all countries at the same time. Had that happened, My ancestors might have also reached God as their ancestors did. Therefore your statement proves your own God to be partial.

The only way to make your God impartial is that you must accept that your very God appeared in all the countries in various forms at the same time and preached that only true path of your religion, in various languages. He did not appear in the same form everywhere and neither did He preach in the same language. However the subject matter was the same—divine knowledge. The syllabus and explanations were one and the same, though the media of instruction (languages), external looks and names of teachers were different. Thus the religion that God gave to your people and country is not different from the religion that the same God gave to other people in other countries in different languages. Can you give any alternative reasonable answer to my My question other than this? Certainly not! Whenever you claim your religion to be the one and only path to God and whenever you condemn other paths, remember that any person belonging to any religion can pose this question to you.

Moreover every religion claims that their God alone created this world. Unfortunately this world is only one and every God cannot create the same world; there are not many worlds to justify each God creating His own world. Therefore any human being with an iota of commonsense has to agree that there is only one impartial God who created this one world. He alone came in different forms to different countries and preached the same path in all the languages, simultaneously at one time.

God alone knows about Himself. God is the knowledge itself. God is identified from the infinite divine knowledge that He preaches. To uplift the human beings on this earth, God Himself comes down in human form known as Human incarnation of God like Rama, Krishna, Jesus, Muhammad, Sai Baba, Shankara etc to preach the divine knowledge. Since God is impartial He comes to this world in every human generation to preach.

MaxInDHouse:


Hell simply means Grave there is no thought or knowledge in the grave (Hell) where all humans are going! Ecclesiastes 9:10

Hell is a place where reformation is induced in the minds of sinners. God punishes any body with love and care only and not with any vengeance or anger. The moment one get reformed and do not sin, then all their past sins also will be forgiven by God. This is the promise to them. If one realize, repent and do not repeat any sins from today onwards till their death all their past sins will be forgiven. However, one shall not repeat any sins further.

Only upon this earth one can do activities or deeds and change ourselves. We can change our own fate. In the upperworld called Hell and heaven we have to undergo the results of our deeds done on the earth either good or bad. For sinful deeds we enter the hell for reformation and for meritorious deeds we enter the heaven. But after the results of both deeds are exhausted we all down again to this earth. But a human birth is not assured.

When one live like animal in this world, always thinking about eating, sleeping and having sex such people will enter the animal kingdom from there there is no escape for them. They got what they wished.

Hell and heaven exists in the upper-world which can be seen by the grace of God only. God comes to this world in human form to preach and uplift us known as Human incarnation of God in every human generation to uplift us like Rama, Krishna, Jesus, Muhammad, Shankara, Sai Baba, Buddha etc .

Anybody who follow justice will enter into heaven and anybody who follow injustice will enter in to hell for reformation through undergoing punishment there. God punishes anybody not with vengeance or anger but with love and care for their reformation. Since God is an impartial God He comes to this world in every human generation to preach and uplift us.

How can You correlate Islam with Universal Spirituality when it does not agree to the concept of the human incarnation?

O Learned and Devoted Servants of God,

[Ms. Thrylokya asked:- Please refer to Your answer for the 2nd question asked by Smt. Chadra chanda garu.

Islam does not agree to the concept of the human incarnation and even the concept of mediated God. At least in Nivrutti, how can You correlate Islam in Universal Spirituality?]

Swami replied:- Universal spirituality deals with the basic unity present in all religions neglecting the superficial differences in Pravrutti and Nivrutti. In Pravrutti also there are differences in all the religions including Islam, but, the basic unity is that God rewards justice and punishes injustice. In Nivrutti also, there is basic unity, which is the existence of God supporting justice and opposing injustice. Regarding the nature of God, there may be differences like unimaginable God, formless God, God with form, God in human form etc. But, the existence of God and the main purpose of God (supporting justice and punishing injustice) are the basic commonalities in all the religions. You shall start with the concept of two religions only, which are theism and atheism.
All the religions are branches of theism only having the common triad:1) God exists, 2) God created heaven to reward the followers of justice and 3) God created hell to punish sinners supporting injustice. Hinduism consists all concepts of all religions existing in the world and it can be treated as a mini model of Universal Spirituality. In the macro model of Universal Spirituality, all the religions of the world are correlated based on the same mechanism existing in Hinduism. Ex:- In Hinduism (Micro model), we say that Shiva and Vishnu are basically one and the same. In the macro model we say that Shiva, Vishnu, Jehovah, Allah etc., are basically one and the same unimaginable God.

Islam says that Allah exists as the original unimaginable God. Islam also says that Allah appeared as light, which means that the original unimaginable God exists as unmediated God as well as mediated God (Here the medium is light. Light is seen by eyes and hence, light is with form. At the same time, light is having a simple boundary without any regular form like human form and hence, light is formless). This means that Islam accepts mediated God as well, who is formless as well as with form. If you take Hinduism, apart from the original unmediated unimaginable God, the mediated God exists as light (Yaksha, said in the Upanishat) as well as light with form (Datta or Iishvara). In these two points, you have similarity between Hinduism and Islam. If you take Christianity, God exists as 1) Father of Heaven called Jehovah similar to Datta or Iishvara. 2) Holy spirit similar to Yaksha in Hinduism and Allah seen as light in Islam. 3) Human incarnation like Krishna declaring Himself as Datta/Iishvara in Hinduism similar to Jesus declaring Himself as the truth (Jehovah the Father of Heaven) in Christianity, and this is similar to Prophet Mohammad declaring Himself as the human messenger of Allah.

Krishna and Jesus declared themselves to be the original God, whereas Mohammad declared Himself as the beloved messenger of the original God. In the case of Jesus, He declared Himself as the original God, as well as the son of God, and the messenger of God as well, and this indicates the similar concepts of Hinduism, which are the monism of Shankara, the Qualified monism of Ramanuja and the Dualism of Madhva. Islam joined Hinduism and Christianity in one concept alone, which is the dualism treating Mohammad as the messenger of God. In fact, Mohammad is the human form of Allah only and can be treated as son of God (Ramanuja) or even more precisely as the human form of God (Shankara).

Why did Mohammad Himself not accept these two concepts of Ramanuja and Shankara and kept Himself as the lowest messenger only? The reason is that His preceding prophet called Jesus was horribly crucified since He declared that He was the son of God and sometimes declared Himself as the original God. The public is always infected with ego based jealousy and can tolerate another human being as the separate messenger of God and cannot tolerate another human being as the son of God or God Himself. In order to exist in the tune of public without any danger to life, Mohammad confined Himself to the lowest position of a messenger, which will not kindle the ego based jealousy in the public. We must appreciate Mohammad for His sacrificial generosity for keeping Himself in the lowest position for the sake of the peaceful welfare of the world.