₦airaland Forum

NewSheriff:
Are you just been stupíd? Have you been to the north before? Poverty is the only reason why some people aren't educated in the north_not because the society doesn't allow them. Dumbo!

So poverty is the reason why the average northern girl child is married off before she's ten yrs old? Cos secondary schools in the north cost the same fees as private universities in the south Interesting conclusion you hve drawn up my man.... very insipidiously interesting...

postmann:
...and the OP lied!
Women of the Western world have always gone to school.
Women like Cornelly Metella, Carserra the younger, St Hilda of Whitby etc have been well educated in the medieval age. And some even taught in girls schools.

But they never came anything close to their male counterparts in inventory, creativity, wisdom and intelligence.

Your Marie Currie was a brilliant woman no doubt. But she's not an inventor.
Even the instruments she used was invented by the Pierre brothers.

There was Wilhelm Roentgen in 1895,
Henri Becquerel in 1896. These are the real inventors hence....

"she shared the prize with Pierre Curie and Henri Becquerel, the original discover of radioactivity"

I put it to you that over 95% of all inventions belong to men. Many are illiterates who never went to school.

Now I asked you an initial question? About your mom and your dad. Is she still married to him?

You are wrong... the proportion of western women who got an appreciable education before the 20th century is so miniscule as to be nonexistent.... women have always being cast into lesser roles in society and that dampening of their creative potentials does not mean it doesnt or didnt excist.... this is the point am trying to make, everyone regardless of gender deserves equal opportunities to excel, that for me is true feminism or as i prefer to see it.... humanism...

Btw my parents are divorced and not for the reasons you are probably speculating in your head... could you pls do me a favour and leave my parents marriage or lack of it out of this discussion.

joseph1832:
True that! I also believe strongly that Marie Curie didn't hide under the guise of feminism just so she can give frivolous excuse as to why she couldn't excel.

Truth is, all these women clamoring for feminism or whatever are just looking for an excuse, any woman who truly know her worth, will shine, no matter how anybody tries to hide her shine.

Thats why i said.... feminism should be about women having equal opportunities to be all they can be... no gender restriction on what a human can achieve... for me its not bout gender superiority.... or competition....

Lezzlie:
Feminism is needless.

Men have always taken care of women and feminism is killing that .

I'm taking you up on your last post before this.

What you suppose Feminism should be isn't what it is, it is devilish.

Women have everything they want now and yet they still cry foul.

Feminism tells women they are superior to men and should do what men do.

No woman wants what a man truelly loves. And no man truelly crave for what women truelly want.

We are just different. And feminism seeks to deny this.

That's why you always see them bitter and angry.

Why won't they be, when they are fighting against their own very nature?

If Feminism thrives, women will suffer more.

you dont seem to understand why i what i was saying with my post.... this is what i think true feminism should be about.... just like we have different belief systems within the same Religion... i even stated i would rather it be termed humanism

postmann:
Nothing gets weirder than the above statement from a man.

Mr OP, please I call you to come and back up your claim of the above quote.

And please while on it, refrain from giving me some silly scientific analysis and study.

Give me practical examples of what women have invented from the beginning of time.

Today is your day on centre stage!

true not so many women as compared to men have won acclaim in the world of imnovation, invention and and science.... but even in this your are helping me make my point.... women historically speaking, have never been given equal footing anf opportunities to aim so high... marie currie was an anormally for her time...

postmann:
I see you're probably brought up in the West, and your dad is a good and tolerant man.

There're many self-inflicted damages from your submission but the stress of the day is slowing my assault.

But, I want to ask you: what happened between your dad and your mom. You mentioned a step mom so I reckoned they aren't together.

Truthfully tell me, pls.

not that its any of your business but i was born and raised in the south... and my father was polygamous.... ditto my reapeated use of the term proper traditional African man

Lezzlie:
Feminism is Feminism and its long term goal is to enshrine homosexuality and lesbianism. This small powerful group had so much lobby strategy they have taken over Western media. Watching CNN or BBC, you get a false impression feminism and gays are popularly accepted there. But even in your Western society, you know the vast majority still views feminism with discontent.
Let me allow your false claims of feminism to go unchallenged.

Since women have attained full suffrage in Nigeria even before some Western European countries, and have free unrestrained access to education, career path, choice courses and to work anywhere they please,

Why are you people still drumming the feminism war chants?

What more do you want?

You want to produce _sperm or you want our diick?

pls take a sec and go back to my own personal opinion on what feminism should stand for....

Estharfabian:

Lezzlie:
Op, you're confused!!

If the women behind Feminism don't have usurpation as their long term goal why not call it gender rights or equality.

Feminist seeks to bully everyone inuding women who don't share their ideas.

Feminist lobby for women to take up stem courses when the majority of women just don't like it.



Feminists castigate and bully housewives who enjoy just being house wiveswives into working to prove their womanhood.


Feminist lobby governments to make reservations for top political and appointment hierarchy for women without merit.

But we never see them argue for lower position to be equally represented by women.


No one stops any woman from education or airing her views at home, the husband simply has the final say.


I find it strange that you seek women to disobey the authority of their husbands at home and fall onto themselves to carry out the instructions and command of their bosses in the office.

Satanists!!!


Feminism is a doomed project.


It failed in Scandinavia after 100 years and it is killing Europe already.

German's Markel always makes a fool of herself in EU like Tatcha did in UK.


I promise you, we will crush them feminist in Africa whenever Its big head surfaces.

Feminism like every other movt in this world has fanatics and zealots... it doesnt change the ultimate aims and goals of that movt.... islam and xtianity have fanatics and zealots.... dkesnt change the original idealogy of said religious movts....

btw... feminism you scorn so much was responsible for woman having things like the right to sufferage and the opportunity to adequate formal education.... would you call these examples satanic too

Feminism means different things for different people... For me it means aspiring for the chance to attain equal opportunities for both sexes... The removal of societal restraints that consign certain dreams and aspirations to a certain gender or sex... Unfortunately feminism , in the eyes of many of the malefolk has become synonymous with non-submission of women to their men... This thought process while understandable is totally wrong.

The going philosophy seems to be that if as a guy you support feminism then you are a sissy, a woman wrapper or an ass kisser.... Only a weak and insecure man requires total submission from his woman to make him feel like he's in charge. Feminism is the only reason many of us guys on Nairaland can proudly brag bout our 'literate' mothers, our 'successful' mothers, aunts, sisters, etc etc

Most guys tell you they can't date or marry an uneducated and unenlightened girl without reasoning far ahead enough to realise that the only reason these educated women are available is because of the 'loathed' feminist movement.

My family is a perfect case study... My dad though being British, still holds strongly to our African traditional values but there was never a time while i was growing up that my mom wasnt working full time... Never a time when my mom couldnt speak her mind and didnt have an equal say in what went down in our home, and guess what? It never eroded her respect for my dad or vice versa... Even my step mom is richer than my dad and more business oriented too, it never caused an issue that i know of, my father has never demanded submission from his wife/ wives and this is someone who like i stated earlier is a full proper traditional African man...

Women may not have the physical strength of men but they can be and are usually smarter... Feminism doesnt literally translate to a woman being able to do all things men can do but it means a woman should be allowed to aspire to the goals men have traditionally reserved for themselves, the right to decide what they want to become or the goals they want to pursue without first considering whether its allowed women by societal norms...

In a way i think the problem of feminism is actually its name... Its only human to strive for the equality of both sexes... Feminism should probably be called humanism because equality of the sexes should be a universal human aspiration not just a fight by the female half of the population

Feminism doesn't mean anti submission just has submission doesnt mean a woman having to grovel and bow after her man and his ego.... Submission is a product of mutual respect and only weak men should be afraid of a woman who speaks her mind on issues concerning their relationship and basic existential issues...

I can only say in closing, there was a time when all men were not considered equal.... And there were people who fought to keep the status quo, they lost. Same way those who fight to keep the status quo on gender inequality would one day be consigned to history books as bitter losers in a cause whose outcome may be delayed but never changed....