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dayokanu: [size=18pt]We are waiting for the spin on it and expectedly Coogar to come to your rescue once again when you fail [/size]

Nateevs. Week in Week out is not football analysis. Just verbal gymnastics

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Just stick to asking Week in Week out. Like I have always told you when it comes to analyzing football you are still a neophyte

nateevs: Hehehehe. Did JM play a 4-3-3 on that day? There's your answer.
Based on the fact that on the balance of the season, JM played a 4-3-3, it is impossible to fit all four players into JM 4-3-3 WEEK IN WEEK OUT
Explain how you think JM fitted 9 untouchables in the team WEEK IN WEEK OUT

You are in no position of criticism. How you manage to continue beats my imagination.
You only go for quotes when you see an opening.

I have asked you multiple times. There's no stat alive to back up your claim that the 9 untouchables played WEEK IN WEEK OUT. So you began hiding.
The moment you find an opening, you rush to the internet. Meanwhile, you are leaving the bone of contention unattended.

How can Ashley 21 apps and Ballack 23 apps in the 06/07 season have played WEEK IN WEEK OUT, even though Jose said they were untouchables?
That is your EXAM.

LOL. You are funny. Everyone can see your football incompetence in the open. I gave you a game instantly where the players were played together now he is asking if they played 4-3-3 No they played 6-3-3-4

[size=18pt]Now Nateevs : Is it possible to fit ballack, Essien Makeleleand Lampard in Jose Mourinhos 4-3-3?[/size]

coogar: all these things are lies - nateevs only opined MAZACAR would improve the way torres play than the dross we saw last season and nateevs has been proven right. torres would score more goals this season.....

Torres has a total of 7 goals in 1900mins of football Thats an average of 1 goal every 270min or better still 1 goal every 4hours 30mins of football. Yes Torres has indeed improved

Torres has played 23 games this season started in 22 of them. Scored 7 goals in 30hours of football He deserves ballon D or for such improvements

stop telling porkies.....
your own argument hasn't been consistent.....:your argument was di matteo was untouchable. you told us he won 2 trophies in 2 months and he's the best chelsea manager in the history of football - it turned out you were telling porkies when the italian got sacked for his incompetence to bring the best out of torres and when he went 4 league games without a win!

Di Matteo is Chelseas best Manager based on records And who told you Good Managers dont get sacked? Del Bosque was sacked by Madrid, Mourinho was sacked by Chelsea

nateevs: Hehehe. You are still hiding. Let's go back to the first question. What percentage of appearances would a player need to qualify as one who plays WEEK IN WEEK OUT?
Jose did not talk about how frequently they played even though he called them untouchables.

Let's analyse your stupidity.

06/07 was the only time those 9 players all played under JM.
In 06/07, Lampard had 36 apps in the league, Essien had 36 apps.
Ashley had 21 apps, Ballack had 23 apps.


Jose knows these stats and will not stoopidly say that his 9 untouchables played WEEK IN WEEK OUT




[size=18pt]In-fact, tactically speaking, it was impossible to fit Ballack, Essien, Makalele and Lampard all into JM's 4-3-3. So that immediately flaws your phoolish logic.[/size]


The reason Essien had many caps in that season was that he played at RB for a long period. This makes your whole assertion very inconsistent.




So I want you to prove how to came about the fact that Jose had 9 untouchables in his side WEEK WEEK OUT
Simple requirement.

I know when it comes to real football analysis you would be found wanting but when it comes to repeating Week in Week out thats where Nateevs analysis starts and end.

Now lets analyze the statement "it was impossible to fit Ballack, Essien, Makalele and Lampard all into JM's 4-3-3."

On 26th November 2006 a few days before mourinho made the "Untouchable comments" Chelsea played Man Utd their biggest title rival to a 1-1 draw. The link is shown above and the Chelsea Lineup was.

Chelsea: Cudicini, Geremi (Robben 46), Carvalho, Terry, Ashley Cole, Essien, Makelele, Ballack (Ferreira 90), Lampard, Shevchenko (Joe Cole 75), Drogba.

Now Nateevs : [size=14pt]Is it possible to fit ballack, Essien Makeleleand Lampard in Jose Mourinhos 4-3-3?[/size]

We are waiting for the spin on it and expectedly Coogar to come to your rescue once again when you fail

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/6161090.stm

Nateevs. Week in Week out is not football analysis. Just verbal gymnastics

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Ucheosefoh: did he f**k his son's wife like Obj did. Did he rape any gal like one yeye oba did, did he f**k anoda man's wife like de late LG chairman did murdered cus of wetin de inside skirt

Ojuku ffuckedd his own Goddaughter. He started bleeping his friends daughter as an infant. Thats child molestation

Ibime: My argument has been consistent all year. Some dudes wanna throw lowblows in an attempt to muddy the waters, even dudes who hated Drogba till May 2012 . . . and would prefer to argue trivial matter about Jose Mourinho which is neither here nor there, yet has proved how featherbrained he is in the real argument of the season.

Just pay attention to the arguments we've been making since May, and you will see how the calculators keep clutching at new straws every new week whilst my argument has been consistent. . . and largely been proved right.

I started paying attention to the Chelsea thread like a year ago and found numerous falsehood that nateevs has been pending for years unchallenged. This is someone who cant take a position.

His views on AVB We saw how that brand of football ended in Cheslea
His views on RDM We saw how RDM went on to win the double with the same players he said was finished
His view on how MAZACAR would improve Torres We now see how that has done so far
His views on torres everyone can see how wrong he has been all these while

My own argument has been consistent and i have been vindicated several times on issues which I argued strongly about like AVB, RDM, Torres

Where does Nateevs stand? No one knows and now he is back to clutching at straws

[quote author=A-40]What's with the subliminals? Are you illuminati?
How can anyone with common sense call sending Lukaku to West Brom an RDM failing when we don't know who even made the call in the first place?? I'm not even Anti-Emenalo and I also don't get this camp talk. Lukaku is an EPL greenhorn at 19 makes perfect sense to send him on loan[/quote]You should know nateevs doesnt think that much, and he lacks the basics to start with So arguing with him is always an exercise in futility the best you can do is to educate him

Ask him for his position on issues and he doesnt have any. Just waiting for coogar to say something and he would claim thats his position all along

nateevs: Jose said many things. Jose says things for the media, things to spite other managers, things to spite his own players. So what Jose says about untouchables does not matter.


There is nothing complicated about what is being asked. Tell us how you came about the fact Jose had 9 untouchables in his team WEEK IN WEEK OUT!.
Jose never said he had 9 untouchables in his team week in week out. If you add that, you have to have the baalls to back it up.

Oh If this isnt the definition of stupidd I wonder what is.

Jose Mourinho said something, I quoted it Now Nateevs said what Jose said doesnt matter. isnt that insane?

Nateevs made A Mistake 3 days ago, i corrected him last night, Nateevs response "My mistake does not matter"

My guy does anything matter to you? These posts of yours are shallow. We cant start teaching you football if you cant understand simple logic and common sense

nateevs: I have to remind you that you have misinformed us all, goofed, lied, falsified Jose's intentions and comments, that you've added your piece to the whole story and then I have to help you interpret what "9 untouchables" means? Are you being deliberately thick?


Whether Jose had 9 untouchables is not the issue. The issue is your exaggerated claim that he had them in the team week in week out. So I ask you to be a gentleman and back up your claims.
How difficult can this be?

Is this not a moronic thing to say. I have asked what do you interprete Joses comment to be, you cant say it but claimed I falsified his comments and intentions? Is that not stupidd even looking at it from your moronic prism?

You cant tell us what it means yet you claim it was falsified, Can something be false when there is no true version?

Abi lets wait for coogar to explain what you mean cos he seems to have the ability to read the mind of retardds

Back which claims. I already gave you Joses own words where he said they were untouchables and you said you dont dispute that. So are you asking for the interpretation of untouchables?

nateevs: Hehehehe. Evasive tactics. Come back here and list the 9 untouchables who played in the team week in week out and quit your endless attempts at defining untouchables. Everyone is fully aware of what JM said. You have gone a step further by saying they play week in week out.

To verify, you cannot. You are hiding from place to place and quoting others for cover. It's another goof from you. Same way you didn't now until yesterday night, the difference between "starts and games"
Come back and verify.

Like Coogar has attempted to do, Can you interprete what Jose meant by the 9 untouchables. Assuming you can think for yourself or should we take coogars thoughts as yours?

nateevs: am sure if I took someone out of a mental institution right now, he will decipher the question I have asked repeatedly in only a few seconds.

Let me indulge you. Yes Muorinho said he had untouchables. What I want you to verify is that

Any clearer now? Let's try this again!

Jose Mourinho said he has Untouchables in December 2006

So If you agree that Mourinho said he had invincibles then

What does untouchable in a club mean in the Mourinho context in 2006? And why did he say Sheva was not an untouchable

mystikal: At one point I enjoyed this arguement, now its just become so vain. Ibime seems to be the only one making some sense, I dont have to agree with what he says but at least he and to some extent DK have been consistent

No vex. this exercise is to show who the charlatans are and I'm glad its becoming glaring right now that Nateevs doesn't know what he is saying most of the time. If you look at those long worded posts you would notice they are empty and full of half truths and outright lie.

He is now being found out for who he really is. A football novice

coogar: his point is simple....he wants you to list the untouchable players who were in the line up week in week out under mourinho. nateevs did not dispute mourinho mentioned some of his players were untouchable but he does not agree it had anything to do with starting week in week out!

Is it that Nateevs cant think for himself that you have to verbalize what he is thinking for him??

Jose Mourinho said he has Untouchables in December 2006

What does untouchable in a club mean in the Mourinho context in 2006? And why did he say Sheva was not an untouchable

nateevs: My point is this.

Verify your claim. Simple.

What kind of verification are you looking for? That Jose Mourinho called 9 players untouchables or what? Like I asked what is your point assuming you have any?

nateevs: Bros I did not talk for you. It was my club JM coached, so you cannot tell me about the untouchables.
I want you to verify your claim that ALL 9 untouchables played "WEEK IN WEEK OUT"

Is it hard for you to state what your point is? Or are you telling us that you have no Point?

Dayokanus point: Every club has untouchable players. These players start most of the team vital games as long as they are not injured.

Nateevs whats your point?

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Ojuku was a useless man

So he dey give woman belle as part of an agenda?

nateevs: Hehehe. How long did it take you to get this? I am sure you were hoping you get this.
So let's go on an educational ride.

Let's start by asking Dayo, how many appearances per season would a player need to have to qualify as a player that plays "WEEK INN WEEK OUT"?
You can choose a percentage if you please.

You can choose for yourself or ask the coach who called certain players Untouchable what his criteria was to call them untouchables

BTW Whats your point, Can you clearly define what you are arguing about?

Mine is: Every club has untouchable players these players start most of the team vital games as long as they are not injured.

Can you state yours clearly?

PointB You sef like you advised Okija Juju, Go to electoral court and fight your case But at this point you are disqualified.

I nominate Katsumoto

Ibime: Isnt it funny? The same guys who launched campaign to get some of our best performers out the team to "clear space for talent" are now coming back to give excuses for their non performance. "They are still in development", "Calculate how many games they've played ", "They are only 21", "They are too small" and yada yada yada.

I honestly am amazed by the amount of brainless comment that comes out of nateevs on a daily basis.

The team is too young- And we ask him for the average age of the squad he ran away, they were overplayed We asked him to compare them to key players from rival clubs he ran away, They are still in development They are too small The same players who played more games at a younger age suddenly became too young for Chelsea. We asked how many games Bale, Kyle Walker, Fabregas etc played in the same English league at 21 he is yarning tripe.

nateevs: Not so quick. Come back and tell us the 9 untouchables you refer to that play WEEK IN WEEK OUT!

"I play the best players at the time. Sheva is not untouchable because of the way he is playing.

"Claude Makelele is untouchable because of the way he plays. Michael Essien is untouchable because of the way he plays. It is not because I love them."

The full list of Mourinho's untouchables is: Essien, Makelele, Frank Lampard, John Terry, Ricardo Carvalho, Ashley Cole, Didier Drogba, Michael Ballack and goalkeeper Petr Cech, currently recovering from a serious head injury.

http://www.news24.com/xArchive/Sport/Soccer/Jose-lists-Chelsea-untouchables-20061208

Look Nateevs, I dont have magical powers to turn a bicylcle into a Ferrari, I cant turn a dullard like you to a football afficionado You have to learn the ropes by reading wide

coogar: dayo is a tool!
let him come and tell us about these untouchables? 9 untouchable players in jose era? and they were never benched throughout that season?

And dem never bench any of MAZACAR this season toad ??

nateevs: How did I miss this?
Dayo has stumbled on some secret stat that's eluded Chelsea fans for years.

So you know every team has a core of players who start almost every games

coogar: dayo, [size=18pt]mata has played 20 games for chelsea this season[/size] and we aren't even half of the season yet. if the trend continues, he would play more than 40 before the end of the season - which destroys your theory about his previous clubs. are you going to defend yourself for making an idiotic statement or you want to hang on shamelessly to hairsplitting what la liga and premier league really mean?

Oya list these games

We are waiting for this spin on this one again Guffanti

jackbauersballs: You are a dunce of the highest order- A very clear example of the negative effects of crack on the human brain...

You said

Again I ask you how could they have played more than 20 games in the league when no other team has played more than 15

Or are Champion's league games now Premier League games?

Are Internationals now Premier League games?

If you had admitted your mistake, then No problem - Everybody makes mistakes

But your pathetic attempts to blag things out have exposed your negative IQ

Absolute Dunce...

The games Mata started for Spain are now in the Premier league, UEFA super cup are now in the premier league.

He still wonders why everyone thinks he is a retardd?

debosky: This is true to an extent - you can only play by the rules that apply at the time.

However, even if you compare with other contemporaries in England and elsewhere over the same time period, very few clubs have managed to consistently qualify for the CL as often as Wenger has done in the past 16 years.

Even if you compare with previous managers in terms of trophy hauls, Arsene remains one of our most successful managers.

3 league titles in 16 years Thats an average of one every 5 yrs. Now start the comparison

coogar: you are a zombie!
messi scored 78 goals in la liga means it's only in the league games? the English league is the premier league......stop the idiotic pedantry and focus on the points!

comprehension is a bytch for you herbs
i said each of them have played 20 games in the premier league(English league)....quite different from saying they have played 20 PL games! una go school at all?

What you typed is quoted above. No spin on this Everyone must see that you are a leprechaun

debosky: Do the comparison yourself - I'm not here to spoon feed you. If you want to challenge the assertion, provide your evidence.

Has Hazard played more games in the league than Yaya, Cazorla or Lennon? Has Mata started more more games than Podolski, Bale or Tevez? Has Oscar started more games than Dempsey Silva and Arteta?

So whats the basis for saying they are overplayed.

Now provide your counter argument to show they have been overplayed

coogar: how many games have mata/hazard played since they moved to england? are you a tool?

Played since they moved to England = Playing in Premier league.

I hope every poster sees the foolishness you display around like Christmas clothes

jackbauersballs: HOW HAVE THEY PLAYED MORE THAN TWENTY GAMES IN THE LEAGUE?

WHICH CLUB HAS PLAYED MORE THAN 15 GAMES IN THE LEAGUE THIS SEASON?

AND YOU CALL SOMEONE AUTISTIC

bros abeg help me ask am oooo. I don't know which league he is talking about. Where they have played over 20 games

coogar: you claim hazard/mata used to complete 40 games for their previous clubs - it's not even half of the season yet and they have played more than 20 games each in the premier league.....which means they would certainly play more than 40 games they are normally used to if the current trend continues......

dayo, confess, you were autistic as a kid, weren't you?

Are you still wondering why you are considered a flaming mor00n?

Like I gave nateevs last night. Can you list the 20 games they have each played in the Premier league this season

The Premier league season is 38 games FACT. You claimed they have each played over 20 games. Then I ask Is the premier league already over halfway?

We are waiting and counting

ACM10: The onus is on you f00l to prove that I lied. I made an assertion and I expect you to shoot it down with your facts. I can see that you are too young to know the dynamics of Abiola's family. Once again, these informations were widely published in the media. The shout of lie! lie!! by a goat like you does not change this historical fact.

Bros you still never go your grandmas village to get common sense?

Why am I not surprised